The Right Wing had better be right about this "Deep State" stuff.

[The Original Tree]

Yeah, sure, uh-huh..... the WH was spying on Trump, not Obama holdovers.

Dumbfuck, those transcripts were released by the White House. Are you claiming trump was spying on himself??

Transcripts of Trump's calls with Mexican, Australian leaders reveal president worried about the politics of immigration

President Trump told Mexico's president that a proposed border wall between the two countries was "the least important thing we are talking about," according to a transcript of the January call published by the Washington Post on Thursday.

The Post said it obtained the transcripts of Trump’s talks with President Enrique Peña Nieto and Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull from White House staff.​

... I know, I know, it sucks having a Liberal blow up your nonsensical conspiracies. Too bad.

Speaking of conspiracies... why do you refuse to post a link the that conspiracy you posted to me earlier? Exactly how disreputable is your source??

Your first mistake is quoting the Washington Compost.
Your second mistake is buying this story that Trump’s staff leaked it.

LOL

Great, let's see your evidence the transcripts didn't come from White House staff.....

So let me get this straight..... Trump releases his own transcripts of his own conversations wth World Leaders to newspapers who regularly trash him to make himself look bad.......because?

And then he goes and Unmasks everyone Obama and Clinton targeted with their illegal surveillance......for what reason?????

Let's see your evidence to prove you aren't a Transgender Cross Dressing Failure in Life with No Job, and No Prospects to ever be anything but a drag queen dancing in a glass booth at an adult book store.

And while we are at it, we want to see your tax returns to prove you aren't getting paid by Putin McFaun.

And your birth certificate and immigration status to prove you are human and not a Russian Illegal Immigrant

Who said trump released them? The post said it was White House staff.

And you'll get to see my tax return when I run for president.

So you mean Obama released them, since he was in the loop on all of this. The Spying, The Unmasking, The Wiretapping, The Fake Russian Collusion Narrative, The Falsified FISA Affidavits.

You are a private Citizen, so we can see your tax returns any time we want to, for no reason at all, right?

Where is THE LAW that says a cadidate and a businessman has to show tax returns to The Public for Any Reasaon?

They just have to show THE IRS a Financial Statement and they cannot lie on it.

When is THE IRS going to drag Trump from the White House in Chains?

Trump, Lied so any day now.......JAIL, HANDCUFFS for TRUMP!, Right?

Any day now.

 

[Andylusion]

So here we go, I guess.

This is no longer going to be some fevered conspiracy story born of one of Mark Levin's fevered hyper-partisan conspiracy books. It's no longer going to be the foundation of President Hannity's hyper-partisan radio and teevee shows, buttressed by the manic "reporting" of his small band of like-minded "investigative reporters" (Out-of-Control Sean Hannity Thumbs His Nose at Fox News Bosses).

It's no longer going to be this alternate-universe "blockbuster" narrative that a relatively small group of people know like the back of their hand, as if they're convinced that "Breaking Bad" or "Game of Thrones" are documentaries.

You're accusing the American government, all the way to the top, of conspiring to spy on and bring down a presidential candidate and an American President. Key players in this accusation include a Special Counsel, a former Director of National Intelligence, a former FBI Director, former Secretary of State and a former President. Not to mention any number of lower-level government conspirators. The Deep State.

Bottom line: If you folks are right about this whole thing, it's a huge, historic story and must be addressed with historic attention, seriousness and care. If it's just a product of your fevered alternate universe, you deserve whatever you get.

Hopefully we'll soon know, once and for all, what actually happened. If anything.
.

But we already know that we are right about some of it. We already have statements by people in the FBI planning on preventing Trump from being president. The Washington Post reported on it.

The only question is, how deep did it go. Was it just those few active players, or was it deeper in the agencies.

It might have been just those few people.

But either way, the question of is people in the agencies were actively against Trump.... is a given. It's a conclusively documented fact.

 

[mudwhistle]

Mueller disagreed,. and offered no declaration, designation - indeed, evidence - of a corrupt intent.

This right there is proof positive that Barr has failed you in his summary of the Mueller report.

Mueller DID NOT disagree that Trump has provably commited Obstruction.

What Mueller said was that according to DOJ policy he could not indict a sitting president and was therefore declining to make a prosecuratorial descision. Instead, he simply laid out the facts of the case based on which the Congress can hold a president accountable for abuses of his office.

Horseshit.
Mueller found no collusion.
Obstruction was pure speculation.
First you need a crime, then you need an illegal act.
None of this was satisfied.

You wrong again - Mueller specifically talks about Obstruction of Justice as a crime of it's own, commited at times over non-criminal underlying matters.

For example in Clinton's case there was no underlying crime - the sex was legal.

And lying under oath is a crime called perjury.

Thats a right, even though there was no underlying crime, the perjury was still chargable. And by the way, perjury is just a veriety of Obstruction.

Perjury is lying under oath.
Obstruction is destroying evidence, refusing to cooperate in an investigation, and preventing investigators from interviewing witnesses. None of this happened.

 

[mudwhistle]

spying on a citizen. terrible and not what you should want from your government. just saying, the dossier was never verified, therefore, any warrant was illegally gotten.

Court ordered surveillance. Properly adjudicated.
Obviously then the warrant was not " illegally gotten".

You cannot file a False Affidavit in an Unconstitutional Secret FISA Court designed exclusively to help pursue and prosecute terrorists and other enemies of The State and at the same time claim that "COURT ORDERED SURVEILLANCE was PROPERLY ADJUDICATED."

This Unconstitutional FISA Court is not even supposed to deal with US Citizens as they have CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS from such things, like "Search and Seizure" "Right to Privacy" Due Process" "The 5th Amendment" "The right to face one's accusers or to see evidence against them" "The Right to have Exculpatory Evidence be made known to any Court or Court Official" "Probably Cause" "The Right to a Defense against any accusations" "The Presumption of Innocence" "The right to be secure in a person's possessions and effects"

But worst of All Bob Mueller knew for 18 months that Russian Collusion was a hoax. He went ahead anyways.

This was nothing more than a weaponization of our government against a US Citizen.

FISA and The Patriot Act need abolished over this.

Against a citizen who was no longer with the Trump campaign. In fact, according to the trump campaign at the time, they fired Page.

So tell the forum again how that means Obama spied on trump.

If you would take the Putin Look A Like Bobble Head out of Your Ass, instead of act like a Russian Whore from a Russian Troll Farm, people have repeatedly told you how all The Leaks were Clear Evidence of Spying by Obama on Trump Tower, and wiretapping his phone.

Obama even went to the extraordinary and Illegal Lengths of Unmasking The Targets of His Surveillance Machine.

It was all done to smear President Trump. It was all done to attempt to initiate impeachment proceedings even before he was sworn in.

Conversation with Mexican President Peña Nieto
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c51f8f09831d

Someone Leaked Classified Transcripts Of Trump’s Phone Calls With Foreign Leaders

Dumbfuck.... they were not leaked...

Transcripts of Trump's calls with Mexican, Australian leaders reveal president worried about the politics of immigration

President Trump told Mexico's president that a proposed border wall between the two countries was "the least important thing we are talking about," according to a transcript of the January call published by the Washington Post on Thursday.

The Post said it obtained the transcripts of Trump’s talks with President Enrique Peña Nieto and Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull from White House staff.

Obtain is just another word for leak.

 

[Faun]

Court ordered surveillance. Properly adjudicated.
Obviously then the warrant was not " illegally gotten".

You cannot file a False Affidavit in an Unconstitutional Secret FISA Court designed exclusively to help pursue and prosecute terrorists and other enemies of The State and at the same time claim that "COURT ORDERED SURVEILLANCE was PROPERLY ADJUDICATED."

This Unconstitutional FISA Court is not even supposed to deal with US Citizens as they have CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS from such things, like "Search and Seizure" "Right to Privacy" Due Process" "The 5th Amendment" "The right to face one's accusers or to see evidence against them" "The Right to have Exculpatory Evidence be made known to any Court or Court Official" "Probably Cause" "The Right to a Defense against any accusations" "The Presumption of Innocence" "The right to be secure in a person's possessions and effects"

But worst of All Bob Mueller knew for 18 months that Russian Collusion was a hoax. He went ahead anyways.

This was nothing more than a weaponization of our government against a US Citizen.

FISA and The Patriot Act need abolished over this.

Against a citizen who was no longer with the Trump campaign. In fact, according to the trump campaign at the time, they fired Page.

So tell the forum again how that means Obama spied on trump.

Relax, faun.

Our President and his Wing Man have the documents and have declassified them. We are getting ready for the Big Reveal.

It will be crystal clear exactly what Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, etc., all did and when they did it pretty soon in regards to the FISA warrants against loyal American citizen Carter Page and others.

Right now, Trump is just building this up. Just like before Wrestlemania 23 which was also pre-planned.

Nothing that is in the previously classified documents is new to Donald J Trump or William Barr, at least not now.

You can say, now, that the President is just "talking shit". But I don't think so, as we will all seen one way or another in not very much time. Right now, Trump is trying to make the coupsters sweat a little bit too, as well as build up the suspense.

What big reveal? The FISA applications have already been released and proved to be legitimate.

So what else ya got?

Really? So the general public knows the reason and the predication for the Obama Regime to spy on his political opponents? Do you care to link the documents and the sources that were used to obtain the FISA warrants?

It's not actually been confirmed that Obama spied on his political opponents. That's still under investigation which began more than a year ago. Don't you think it would be prudent to wait for the results rather than to leap to conclusions?

As far as the FISA warrant applications, this is old news. Old news that led to no big reveal....

Document: Justice Department Releases Carter Page FISA Application

... so again I ask.... what big reveal are you expecting? What else ya got?

 

[francoHFW]

So here we go, I guess.

This is no longer going to be some fevered conspiracy story born of one of Mark Levin's fevered hyper-partisan conspiracy books. It's no longer going to be the foundation of President Hannity's hyper-partisan radio and teevee shows, buttressed by the manic "reporting" of his small band of like-minded "investigative reporters" (Out-of-Control Sean Hannity Thumbs His Nose at Fox News Bosses).

It's no longer going to be this alternate-universe "blockbuster" narrative that a relatively small group of people know like the back of their hand, as if they're convinced that "Breaking Bad" or "Game of Thrones" are documentaries.

You're accusing the American government, all the way to the top, of conspiring to spy on and bring down a presidential candidate and an American President. Key players in this accusation include a Special Counsel, a former Director of National Intelligence, a former FBI Director, former Secretary of State and a former President. Not to mention any number of lower-level government conspirators. The Deep State.

Bottom line: If you folks are right about this whole thing, it's a huge, historic story and must be addressed with historic attention, seriousness and care. If it's just a product of your fevered alternate universe, you deserve whatever you get.

Hopefully we'll soon know, once and for all, what actually happened. If anything.
.

But we already know that we are right about some of it. We already have statements by people in the FBI planning on preventing Trump from being president. The Washington Post reported on it.

The only question is, how deep did it go. Was it just those few active players, or was it deeper in the agencies.

It might have been just those few people.

But either way, the question of is people in the agencies were actively against Trump.... is a given. It's a conclusively documented fact.

a few emails between FBI lovers about how like most of the country at the time they thought Trump was a joke and a fool, means nothing, dumbass doop, just like all the other emails nobody gave a s*** about until the Russians hacked them and fox went on forever about them- pure innuendo and misinformation.

 

[The Original Tree]

Because perjury, itself, is a crime

Yes, just as Obstruction, itself, is a crime.

Yes.
When the obstructive actions are taken with a provable corrupt intent.
Get it dummy?

Dumbass, the conversation you butted into was about a poster trying to say that Obstruction needs an underlying crime.

Read the conversation before throwing in your two cents.

No it doesn't.

You are allowed to defend yourself against abuses of power, and abuses of law enforcement.

Ever hear of The Right To Privacy?

How about any of these?
The Right to an Attorney
The Right to organize and mount a defense against charges levied at you.
The Right to a trial by a jury of your peers.
The Right to Face Your Accusers and See Evidence that is against you.
The Right to Due Process
The Right to defend yourself against Libel & Slander
Probable Cause
The Right to Face Your Accusers & Cross Examine them
The Right to petition the courts for a redress of grievances
The Right to request a change of venue, or to claim a juror, judge, officer of the court, or investigator, prosecutor be removed from a case for a conflict of interest.
The RIght to have Exculpatory Evidence Entered as Evidence on Your Behalf.
The Right to be secure in your effects and possessions
The Right to Free Speech.
The Fifth Amendment.

You cannot charge a person with Obstruction of Justice for doing anything they can to put a halt an Injustice.

In fact it is entirely LEGAL to refuse to cooperate with anyone pursuing false charges against you.

There was no injustice. Actually, it was quite the opposite

How so?

Did Trump buy a Russian Dossier against Clinton and use it in a FISA Court so he could spy on her Campaign?

Like are you one of those morons in some Indian Call Center reading off of a script, or do you actually think for yourself?

Was Obama's DOJ-FBI Corrupt?
Or was it Obama's FISA Court Judges that were Corrupt?

Answer the question numb nuts.

 

[The Original Tree]

So here we go, I guess.

This is no longer going to be some fevered conspiracy story born of one of Mark Levin's fevered hyper-partisan conspiracy books. It's no longer going to be the foundation of President Hannity's hyper-partisan radio and teevee shows, buttressed by the manic "reporting" of his small band of like-minded "investigative reporters" (Out-of-Control Sean Hannity Thumbs His Nose at Fox News Bosses).

It's no longer going to be this alternate-universe "blockbuster" narrative that a relatively small group of people know like the back of their hand, as if they're convinced that "Breaking Bad" or "Game of Thrones" are documentaries.

You're accusing the American government, all the way to the top, of conspiring to spy on and bring down a presidential candidate and an American President. Key players in this accusation include a Special Counsel, a former Director of National Intelligence, a former FBI Director, former Secretary of State and a former President. Not to mention any number of lower-level government conspirators. The Deep State.

Bottom line: If you folks are right about this whole thing, it's a huge, historic story and must be addressed with historic attention, seriousness and care. If it's just a product of your fevered alternate universe, you deserve whatever you get.

Hopefully we'll soon know, once and for all, what actually happened. If anything.
.

But we already know that we are right about some of it. We already have statements by people in the FBI planning on preventing Trump from being president. The Washington Post reported on it.

The only question is, how deep did it go. Was it just those few active players, or was it deeper in the agencies.

It might have been just those few people.

But either way, the question of is people in the agencies were actively against Trump.... is a given. It's a conclusively documented fact.

a few emails between FBI lovers about how like most of the country at the time they thought Trump was a joke and a fool, means nothing, dumbass doop, just like all the other emails nobody gave a s*** about until the Russians hacked them and fox went on forever about them- pure innuendo and misinformation.

Not just FBI Lovers, Putin Pole Smoker, but FBI Lovers that were On Mueller's Team, and also were involved in The Fake Exoneration and Cover Up of the Criminal Activities, of Hillary Von Cankles McPutin and Obma Bin Sucking Putin's Deek.

 

[Faun]

Dumbfuck, those transcripts were released by the White House. Are you claiming trump was spying on himself??

Transcripts of Trump's calls with Mexican, Australian leaders reveal president worried about the politics of immigration

President Trump told Mexico's president that a proposed border wall between the two countries was "the least important thing we are talking about," according to a transcript of the January call published by the Washington Post on Thursday.

The Post said it obtained the transcripts of Trump’s talks with President Enrique Peña Nieto and Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull from White House staff.​

... I know, I know, it sucks having a Liberal blow up your nonsensical conspiracies. Too bad.

Speaking of conspiracies... why do you refuse to post a link the that conspiracy you posted to me earlier? Exactly how disreputable is your source??

Your first mistake is quoting the Washington Compost.
Your second mistake is buying this story that Trump’s staff leaked it.

LOL

Great, let's see your evidence the transcripts didn't come from White House staff.....

So let me get this straight..... Trump releases his own transcripts of his own conversations wth World Leaders to newspapers who regularly trash him to make himself look bad.......because?

And then he goes and Unmasks everyone Obama and Clinton targeted with their illegal surveillance......for what reason?????

Let's see your evidence to prove you aren't a Transgender Cross Dressing Failure in Life with No Job, and No Prospects to ever be anything but a drag queen dancing in a glass booth at an adult book store.

And while we are at it, we want to see your tax returns to prove you aren't getting paid by Putin McFaun.

And your birth certificate and immigration status to prove you are human and not a Russian Illegal Immigrant

Who said trump released them? The post said it was White House staff.

And you'll get to see my tax return when I run for president.

So you mean Obama released them, since he was in the loop on all of this. The Spying, The Unmasking, The Wiretapping, The Fake Russian Collusion Narrative, The Falsified FISA Affidavits.

You are a private Citizen, so we can see your tax returns any time we want to, for no reason at all, right?

Where is THE LAW that says a cadidate and a businessman has to show tax returns to The Public for Any Reasaon?

They just have to show THE IRS a Financial Statement and they cannot lie on it.

When is THE IRS going to drag Trump from the White House in Chains?

Trump, Lied so any day now.......JAIL, HANDCUFFS for TRUMP!, Right?

Any day now.

Dumbfuck, Obama was no longer in office.

As far as tax returns, trump said he would release them. But then he won his party's nomination and so he lied instead and said he wouldn't release them.

Having trump's cock buried so deep inside you leads you to swallow his lies with gratitude... along with anything else he feeds you.

 

[MarcATL]

Flynn's offense was very minor and the general had a long history of great service to America. Asking someone to do something isn't "pressure" at all, particularly as the witch hunt against Flynn was continued by the deep state.

LOCK. HIM. UP! LOCK. HIM. UP!! LOCK. HIM. UP!!!

 

[M14 Shooter]

a few emails between FBI lovers about how like most of the country at the time they thought Trump was a joke and a fool, means nothing...

Question for you, dumbass:
Do those e-mails mean more or less than someone standing behind a podium at a campaign rally asking the Russians to find Hillary's e-mails?

 

[Faun]

Court ordered surveillance. Properly adjudicated.
Obviously then the warrant was not " illegally gotten".

You cannot file a False Affidavit in an Unconstitutional Secret FISA Court designed exclusively to help pursue and prosecute terrorists and other enemies of The State and at the same time claim that "COURT ORDERED SURVEILLANCE was PROPERLY ADJUDICATED."

This Unconstitutional FISA Court is not even supposed to deal with US Citizens as they have CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS from such things, like "Search and Seizure" "Right to Privacy" Due Process" "The 5th Amendment" "The right to face one's accusers or to see evidence against them" "The Right to have Exculpatory Evidence be made known to any Court or Court Official" "Probably Cause" "The Right to a Defense against any accusations" "The Presumption of Innocence" "The right to be secure in a person's possessions and effects"

But worst of All Bob Mueller knew for 18 months that Russian Collusion was a hoax. He went ahead anyways.

This was nothing more than a weaponization of our government against a US Citizen.

FISA and The Patriot Act need abolished over this.

Against a citizen who was no longer with the Trump campaign. In fact, according to the trump campaign at the time, they fired Page.

So tell the forum again how that means Obama spied on trump.

If you would take the Putin Look A Like Bobble Head out of Your Ass, instead of act like a Russian Whore from a Russian Troll Farm, people have repeatedly told you how all The Leaks were Clear Evidence of Spying by Obama on Trump Tower, and wiretapping his phone.

Obama even went to the extraordinary and Illegal Lengths of Unmasking The Targets of His Surveillance Machine.

It was all done to smear President Trump. It was all done to attempt to initiate impeachment proceedings even before he was sworn in.

Conversation with Mexican President Peña Nieto
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c51f8f09831d

Someone Leaked Classified Transcripts Of Trump’s Phone Calls With Foreign Leaders

Dumbfuck.... they were not leaked...

Transcripts of Trump's calls with Mexican, Australian leaders reveal president worried about the politics of immigration

President Trump told Mexico's president that a proposed border wall between the two countries was "the least important thing we are talking about," according to a transcript of the January call published by the Washington Post on Thursday.

The Post said it obtained the transcripts of Trump’s talks with President Enrique Peña Nieto and Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull from White House staff.

Obtain is just another word for leak.

It still came from the White House, not from "spies."

 

[francoHFW]

You cannot file a False Affidavit in an Unconstitutional Secret FISA Court designed exclusively to help pursue and prosecute terrorists and other enemies of The State and at the same time claim that "COURT ORDERED SURVEILLANCE was PROPERLY ADJUDICATED."

This Unconstitutional FISA Court is not even supposed to deal with US Citizens as they have CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS from such things, like "Search and Seizure" "Right to Privacy" Due Process" "The 5th Amendment" "The right to face one's accusers or to see evidence against them" "The Right to have Exculpatory Evidence be made known to any Court or Court Official" "Probably Cause" "The Right to a Defense against any accusations" "The Presumption of Innocence" "The right to be secure in a person's possessions and effects"

But worst of All Bob Mueller knew for 18 months that Russian Collusion was a hoax. He went ahead anyways.

This was nothing more than a weaponization of our government against a US Citizen.

FISA and The Patriot Act need abolished over this.

Against a citizen who was no longer with the Trump campaign. In fact, according to the trump campaign at the time, they fired Page.

So tell the forum again how that means Obama spied on trump.

Relax, faun.

Our President and his Wing Man have the documents and have declassified them. We are getting ready for the Big Reveal.

It will be crystal clear exactly what Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, etc., all did and when they did it pretty soon in regards to the FISA warrants against loyal American citizen Carter Page and others.

Right now, Trump is just building this up. Just like before Wrestlemania 23 which was also pre-planned.

Nothing that is in the previously classified documents is new to Donald J Trump or William Barr, at least not now.

You can say, now, that the President is just "talking shit". But I don't think so, as we will all seen one way or another in not very much time. Right now, Trump is trying to make the coupsters sweat a little bit too, as well as build up the suspense.

What big reveal? The FISA applications have already been released and proved to be legitimate.

So what else ya got?

Really? So the general public knows the reason and the predication for the Obama Regime to spy on his political opponents? Do you care to link the documents and the sources that were used to obtain the FISA warrants?

It's not actually been confirmed that Obama spied on his political opponents. That's still under investigation which began more than a year ago. Don't you think it would be prudent to wait for the results rather than to leap to conclusions?

As far as the FISA warrant applications, this is old news. Old news that led to no big reveal....

Document: Justice Department Releases Carter Page FISA Application

... so again I ask.... what big reveal are you expecting? What else ya got?

to the dupes-
Of course Obama did not spy on anybody, brainwash functional moron. Try and remember this was back when the attorney general was not a fat piece of s***who believes the president is above the law, and the FBI and CIA were respected, since there was no GOP propaganda machine going on and on and on about garbage scandals about them, they were spending all their time on garbage scandals about Hillary Obama holder Lerner etc etc etc, all investigated and nothing found but stupid GOP garbage propaganda as always... You live on an imaginary planet, just like Nazis did with their propaganda machine. You people are the biggest threat to American democracy ever.

 

[Faun]

Yes, just as Obstruction, itself, is a crime.

Yes.
When the obstructive actions are taken with a provable corrupt intent.
Get it dummy?

Dumbass, the conversation you butted into was about a poster trying to say that Obstruction needs an underlying crime.

Read the conversation before throwing in your two cents.

No it doesn't.

You are allowed to defend yourself against abuses of power, and abuses of law enforcement.

Ever hear of The Right To Privacy?

How about any of these?
The Right to an Attorney
The Right to organize and mount a defense against charges levied at you.
The Right to a trial by a jury of your peers.
The Right to Face Your Accusers and See Evidence that is against you.
The Right to Due Process
The Right to defend yourself against Libel & Slander
Probable Cause
The Right to Face Your Accusers & Cross Examine them
The Right to petition the courts for a redress of grievances
The Right to request a change of venue, or to claim a juror, judge, officer of the court, or investigator, prosecutor be removed from a case for a conflict of interest.
The RIght to have Exculpatory Evidence Entered as Evidence on Your Behalf.
The Right to be secure in your effects and possessions
The Right to Free Speech.
The Fifth Amendment.

You cannot charge a person with Obstruction of Justice for doing anything they can to put a halt an Injustice.

In fact it is entirely LEGAL to refuse to cooperate with anyone pursuing false charges against you.

There was no injustice. Actually, it was quite the opposite

How so?

Did Trump buy a Russian Dossier against Clinton and use it in a FISA Court so he could spy on her Campaign?

Like are you one of those morons in some Indian Call Center reading off of a script, or do you actually think for yourself?

Was Obama's DOJ-FBI Corrupt?
Or was it Obama's FISA Court Judges that were Corrupt?

Answer the question numb nuts.

Those questions are under an investigation. Like with the Mueller investigation, I wait for the results of the investigation.

 

[M14 Shooter]

[
Of course Obama did not spy on anybody...

So, why do you oppose an investigation?

 

[The Original Tree]

You cannot file a False Affidavit in an Unconstitutional Secret FISA Court designed exclusively to help pursue and prosecute terrorists and other enemies of The State and at the same time claim that "COURT ORDERED SURVEILLANCE was PROPERLY ADJUDICATED."

This Unconstitutional FISA Court is not even supposed to deal with US Citizens as they have CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS from such things, like "Search and Seizure" "Right to Privacy" Due Process" "The 5th Amendment" "The right to face one's accusers or to see evidence against them" "The Right to have Exculpatory Evidence be made known to any Court or Court Official" "Probably Cause" "The Right to a Defense against any accusations" "The Presumption of Innocence" "The right to be secure in a person's possessions and effects"

But worst of All Bob Mueller knew for 18 months that Russian Collusion was a hoax. He went ahead anyways.

This was nothing more than a weaponization of our government against a US Citizen.

FISA and The Patriot Act need abolished over this.

Against a citizen who was no longer with the Trump campaign. In fact, according to the trump campaign at the time, they fired Page.

So tell the forum again how that means Obama spied on trump.

Relax, faun.

Our President and his Wing Man have the documents and have declassified them. We are getting ready for the Big Reveal.

It will be crystal clear exactly what Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, etc., all did and when they did it pretty soon in regards to the FISA warrants against loyal American citizen Carter Page and others.

Right now, Trump is just building this up. Just like before Wrestlemania 23 which was also pre-planned.

Nothing that is in the previously classified documents is new to Donald J Trump or William Barr, at least not now.

You can say, now, that the President is just "talking shit". But I don't think so, as we will all seen one way or another in not very much time. Right now, Trump is trying to make the coupsters sweat a little bit too, as well as build up the suspense.

What big reveal? The FISA applications have already been released and proved to be legitimate.

So what else ya got?

Really? So the general public knows the reason and the predication for the Obama Regime to spy on his political opponents? Do you care to link the documents and the sources that were used to obtain the FISA warrants?

It's not actually been confirmed that Obama spied on his political opponents. That's still under investigation which began more than a year ago. Don't you think it would be prudent to wait for the results rather than to leap to conclusions?

As far as the FISA warrant applications, this is old news. Old news that led to no big reveal....

Document: Justice Department Releases Carter Page FISA Application

... so again I ask.... what big reveal are you expecting? What else ya got?

Obviously it's not your birth we are expecting. That would be a cause of mourning here for many on USMB.

But you are pregnant with Putin's Love Child. So maybe it's you that is expecting to give birth to Russian Collusion.

Spying has been confirmed. And it has been confirmed in numerous ways. BY THE AG. It will be confirmed again by the IG, and then again by The DOJ Attorney assigned to investigating The COUP and Illegal Spying on a Presidential Candidate, and Ultimately ORDERED BY Obama Bin Lying.

Why do we know about The Trump Tower Meeting with FBI Spy and Fusion GPS Employee Natalia V?

How do we know out Private Conversations with The President and World Leaders?

How do we know about legit phone calls between Flynn and a Russian Diplomat arranged by Obama?

How do we know about phone calls Don Jr, made that again turned out to be totally legit.

You have to spy on people to get that information and release it to the Press.

 

[Faun]

Against a citizen who was no longer with the Trump campaign. In fact, according to the trump campaign at the time, they fired Page.

So tell the forum again how that means Obama spied on trump.

Relax, faun.

Our President and his Wing Man have the documents and have declassified them. We are getting ready for the Big Reveal.

It will be crystal clear exactly what Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, etc., all did and when they did it pretty soon in regards to the FISA warrants against loyal American citizen Carter Page and others.

Right now, Trump is just building this up. Just like before Wrestlemania 23 which was also pre-planned.

Nothing that is in the previously classified documents is new to Donald J Trump or William Barr, at least not now.

You can say, now, that the President is just "talking shit". But I don't think so, as we will all seen one way or another in not very much time. Right now, Trump is trying to make the coupsters sweat a little bit too, as well as build up the suspense.

What big reveal? The FISA applications have already been released and proved to be legitimate.

So what else ya got?

Really? So the general public knows the reason and the predication for the Obama Regime to spy on his political opponents? Do you care to link the documents and the sources that were used to obtain the FISA warrants?

It's not actually been confirmed that Obama spied on his political opponents. That's still under investigation which began more than a year ago. Don't you think it would be prudent to wait for the results rather than to leap to conclusions?

As far as the FISA warrant applications, this is old news. Old news that led to no big reveal....

Document: Justice Department Releases Carter Page FISA Application

... so again I ask.... what big reveal are you expecting? What else ya got?

Of course Obama did not spy on anybody, brainwash functional moron. Try and remember this was back when the attorney general was not a fat piece of s***who believes the president is above the law, and the FBI and CIA were respected, since there was no GOP propaganda machine going on and on and on about garbage scandals about them, they were spending all their time on garbage scandals about Hillary Obama holder Lerner etc etc etc, all investigated at nothing found but stupid GOP garbage propaganda as always... You live on an imaginary planet, just like Nazis did with their propaganda machine. You people are the biggest threat to American democracy ever.

LOL

I say, "it's not actually been confirmed that Obama spied on his political opponents," and your reply is the result of how your brain translated that??

You need help.

 

[The Original Tree]

Yes.
When the obstructive actions are taken with a provable corrupt intent.
Get it dummy?

Dumbass, the conversation you butted into was about a poster trying to say that Obstruction needs an underlying crime.

Read the conversation before throwing in your two cents.

No it doesn't.

You are allowed to defend yourself against abuses of power, and abuses of law enforcement.

Ever hear of The Right To Privacy?

How about any of these?
The Right to an Attorney
The Right to organize and mount a defense against charges levied at you.
The Right to a trial by a jury of your peers.
The Right to Face Your Accusers and See Evidence that is against you.
The Right to Due Process
The Right to defend yourself against Libel & Slander
Probable Cause
The Right to Face Your Accusers & Cross Examine them
The Right to petition the courts for a redress of grievances
The Right to request a change of venue, or to claim a juror, judge, officer of the court, or investigator, prosecutor be removed from a case for a conflict of interest.
The RIght to have Exculpatory Evidence Entered as Evidence on Your Behalf.
The Right to be secure in your effects and possessions
The Right to Free Speech.
The Fifth Amendment.

You cannot charge a person with Obstruction of Justice for doing anything they can to put a halt an Injustice.

In fact it is entirely LEGAL to refuse to cooperate with anyone pursuing false charges against you.

There was no injustice. Actually, it was quite the opposite

How so?

Did Trump buy a Russian Dossier against Clinton and use it in a FISA Court so he could spy on her Campaign?

Like are you one of those morons in some Indian Call Center reading off of a script, or do you actually think for yourself?

Was Obama's DOJ-FBI Corrupt?
Or was it Obama's FISA Court Judges that were Corrupt?

Answer the question numb nuts.

Those questions are under an investigation. Like with the Mueller investigation, I wait for the results of the investigation.

Why do you want to see Trump's Tax returns but are opposed to seeing declassified information about The Insurance Policy COUP and Spying, and FISA ABUSES?

Are you afraid Shifty Schiff is going to get Shit Canned for leaking classified information again?

 

[Faun]

Against a citizen who was no longer with the Trump campaign. In fact, according to the trump campaign at the time, they fired Page.

So tell the forum again how that means Obama spied on trump.

Relax, faun.

Our President and his Wing Man have the documents and have declassified them. We are getting ready for the Big Reveal.

It will be crystal clear exactly what Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, etc., all did and when they did it pretty soon in regards to the FISA warrants against loyal American citizen Carter Page and others.

Right now, Trump is just building this up. Just like before Wrestlemania 23 which was also pre-planned.

Nothing that is in the previously classified documents is new to Donald J Trump or William Barr, at least not now.

You can say, now, that the President is just "talking shit". But I don't think so, as we will all seen one way or another in not very much time. Right now, Trump is trying to make the coupsters sweat a little bit too, as well as build up the suspense.

What big reveal? The FISA applications have already been released and proved to be legitimate.

So what else ya got?

Really? So the general public knows the reason and the predication for the Obama Regime to spy on his political opponents? Do you care to link the documents and the sources that were used to obtain the FISA warrants?

It's not actually been confirmed that Obama spied on his political opponents. That's still under investigation which began more than a year ago. Don't you think it would be prudent to wait for the results rather than to leap to conclusions?

As far as the FISA warrant applications, this is old news. Old news that led to no big reveal....

Document: Justice Department Releases Carter Page FISA Application

... so again I ask.... what big reveal are you expecting? What else ya got?

Obviously it's not your birth we are expecting. That would be a cause of mourning here for many on USMB.

But you are pregnant with Putin's Love Child. So maybe it's you that is expecting to give birth to Russian Collusion.

Spying has been confirmed. And it has been confirmed in numerous ways. BY THE AG. It will be confirmed again by the IG, and then again by The DOJ Attorney assigned to investigating The COUP and Illegal Spying on a Presidential Candidate, and Ultimately ORDERED BY Obama Bin Lying.

Why do we know about The Trump Tower Meeting with FBI Spy and Fusion GPS Employee Natalia V?

How do we know out Private Conversations with The President and World Leaders?

How do we know about legit phone calls between Flynn and a Russian Diplomat arranged by Obama?

How do we know about phone calls Don Jr, made that again turned out to be totally legit.

You have to spy on people to get that information and release it to the Press.

Spying has only been confirmed by rightards. In reality, it's been under investigation for more than a year now with the results expected shortly.

 

[The Original Tree]

Relax, faun.

Our President and his Wing Man have the documents and have declassified them. We are getting ready for the Big Reveal.

It will be crystal clear exactly what Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, etc., all did and when they did it pretty soon in regards to the FISA warrants against loyal American citizen Carter Page and others.

Right now, Trump is just building this up. Just like before Wrestlemania 23 which was also pre-planned.

Nothing that is in the previously classified documents is new to Donald J Trump or William Barr, at least not now.

You can say, now, that the President is just "talking shit". But I don't think so, as we will all seen one way or another in not very much time. Right now, Trump is trying to make the coupsters sweat a little bit too, as well as build up the suspense.

What big reveal? The FISA applications have already been released and proved to be legitimate.

So what else ya got?

Really? So the general public knows the reason and the predication for the Obama Regime to spy on his political opponents? Do you care to link the documents and the sources that were used to obtain the FISA warrants?

It's not actually been confirmed that Obama spied on his political opponents. That's still under investigation which began more than a year ago. Don't you think it would be prudent to wait for the results rather than to leap to conclusions?

As far as the FISA warrant applications, this is old news. Old news that led to no big reveal....

Document: Justice Department Releases Carter Page FISA Application

... so again I ask.... what big reveal are you expecting? What else ya got?

Of course Obama did not spy on anybody, brainwash functional moron. Try and remember this was back when the attorney general was not a fat piece of s***who believes the president is above the law, and the FBI and CIA were respected, since there was no GOP propaganda machine going on and on and on about garbage scandals about them, they were spending all their time on garbage scandals about Hillary Obama holder Lerner etc etc etc, all investigated at nothing found but stupid GOP garbage propaganda as always... You live on an imaginary planet, just like Nazis did with their propaganda machine. You people are the biggest threat to American democracy ever.

LOL

I say, "it's not actually been confirmed that Obama spied on his political opponents," and your reply is the result of how your brain translated that??

You need help.

He Spied on Trump Tower for Hillary Clinton so he and she could have inside information on his Campaign.

He found out about it and had to move his campaign meetings.

Obama Spied and Got Caught. He and Clinton have been protected for three years about this and other crimes.

It's time to EXPOSE IT ALL!

Then it will be YOU and YOUR PARTY who needs help because NO SANE AMERICAN will ever trust you with "Political Power" Again!