What is Social Democracy

Daryl Hunt

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Oct 22, 2014
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This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.

 
Something has to be done to change our corrupt crony capitalist oligarchy.

Nice video but I doubt it will change minds, even if everyone watched it.
 
This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.


It's a helpful video, but it won't matter. In its current condition, much of the Right is convinced that if you're not a pure lassez faire free market capitalist, you can only be a radical socialist pinko commie Hitler Nazi Maoist Stalinist commie commie. It can only be one or the other. I don't know if they really believe that, but they certainly appear to.

Including "socialism" in the term "Democratic Socialism" was a truly dumb move by the Left, but it's too late to fix that now.
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This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.


It's a helpful video, but it won't matter. In its current condition, much of the Right is convinced that if you're not a pure lassez faire free market capitalist, you can only be a radical socialist pinko commie Hitler Nazi Maoist Stalinist commie commie. It can only be one or the other. I don't know if they really believe that, but they certainly appear to.

Including "socialism" in the term "Democratic Socialism" was a truly dumb move by the Left, but it's too late to fix that now.
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Hitler, like Mussolini, came from the Capitalist Right Wing and made damned sure the Capitalist Few controlled everything until they cemented power and then became everyone's worst nightmare. Meanwhile Stalin came from the left from the Communist side until he cemented his power and became everyone's worst nightmare.

Capitalism cannot rule anymore than communism or pure socialism can rule. Both leads to the same nightmare sooner than later. But we need one to offset the other to prevent the worst of the worst from happening. Meanwhile, we need Social Democracy to ride herd over everything to make it work. How you get that to work comes in different ways which may include like most successful countries become and that is a Federal Republic of one form or another.

You can hand the word Socialist onto anything or Democratic onto anything but that doesn't make it either one. And that seems to be what has happened and people seem to believe that hanging those two words on extremely bad regimes means that Socialism and Democracy is a bad thing. What's a bad thing is the stupidity of the general masses.
 
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Something has to be done to change our corrupt crony capitalist oligarchy.

Nice video but I doubt it will change minds, even if everyone watched it.

Probably now. It's a shame that the public is so misinformed that it's brain dead.

Don’t be dismayed. It appears opinions are changing.

Exclusive poll: Young Americans are embracing socialism

It could be that GenZ is actually getting an education for a change. But I remember an old saying.

When you are young, you will be a Liberal but when you are old you will be a conservative.

That saying was said when people actually knew what the words Liberal and Conservative actually meant. It has no meaning today.
 
This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.


It's a helpful video, but it won't matter. In its current condition, much of the Right is convinced that if you're not a pure lassez faire free market capitalist, you can only be a radical socialist pinko commie Hitler Nazi Maoist Stalinist commie commie. It can only be one or the other. I don't know if they really believe that, but they certainly appear to.

Including "socialism" in the term "Democratic Socialism" was a truly dumb move by the Left, but it's too late to fix that now.
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Hitler, like Mussolini, came from the Capitalist Right Wing and made damned sure the Capitalist Few controlled everything until they cemented power and then became everyone's worst nightmare. Meanwhile Stalin came from the left from the Communist side until he cemented his power and became everyone's worst nightmare.

Capitalism cannot rule anymore than communism or pure socialism can rule. Both leads to the same nightmare sooner than later. But we need one to offset the other to prevent the worst of the worst from happening. Meanwhile, we need Social Democracy to ride herd over everything to make it work. How you get that to work comes in different ways which may include like most successful countries become and that is a Federal Republic of one form or another.

You can hand the word Socialist onto anything or Democratic onto anything but that doesn't make it either one. And that seems to be what has happened and people seem to believe that hanging those two words on extremely bad regimes means that Socialism and Democracy is a bad thing. What's a bad thing is the stupidity of the general masses.

If you work for wal mart it is capitalism you are of peasant stock the way you are treated. If you work for a monopoly or government you are of privilege and it is socialism the way you are treated. It does not matter about the logistics of what a type of economic system is in place. It matters only on how much you get for our employment. The debt, social welfare system, military spending, social security and medicare are in the conversation also along with others not mentioned.
 
This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.


More than a few seconds-try this-Medicare= good, Medicare for all=impossible. I paid into Medicare-you did not. Social Security= good, Welfare-horror show-I paid into SS, welfare will never be repaid and generations will expect it. Scholarships =good, free college=unfair- I paid ALL my college costs. Socialism is like salt, a little is good, more than that is bad for you and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. America is great again, why do we need all this new free stuff?
 
Something has to be done to change our corrupt crony capitalist oligarchy.

Nice video but I doubt it will change minds, even if everyone watched it.

Probably now. It's a shame that the public is so misinformed that it's brain dead.

Don’t be dismayed. It appears opinions are changing.

Exclusive poll: Young Americans are embracing socialism
Please....... We were democratic socialists when we were kids then we grew up and reality set in..........
 
This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.


I always love the simplistic, fairy tale approach to political economic systems. They always seem to forget the most important element of those systems, people in the real world Those same people who never follow the prescribed, theoretical applications to a Utopian kumbaya but conversely manage to corrupt whatever system they live under.......
 
Nope. Video lost all credibility when the narrator said "Free college." If the dumbass that wrote this video can't understand the concept that taxpayer money is not "free," then this Sanders dick-rider can go jump out of a window. Free means "without cost," and paying through taxes is a cost. Dumbass millennials that suck on Bernie's dick hoping for a drop only call it "free" because, with him, it means the cost goes to someone ELSE. I can't believe that millennials are stupid enough to keep supporting and posting Sanders propaganda after the major ass-fuck he gave them with the primaries in the last election with Wasserman-Shultz.
 
This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.


More than a few seconds-try this-Medicare= good, Medicare for all=impossible. I paid into Medicare-you did not. Social Security= good, Welfare-horror show-I paid into SS, welfare will never be repaid and generations will expect it. Scholarships =good, free college=unfair- I paid ALL my college costs. Socialism is like salt, a little is good, more than that is bad for you and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. America is great again, why do we need all this new free stuff?


Last year, the CEOs got an average wage increase of over 7% or over 800K while the corporate workers recieved less than a 3% raise. Those are averages. Some got more, some got less. This is the normal annual increase for the CEOs while the Corporate Workers goes from zero to a high of 3%. But the CEOs percentage stays about the same or higher. Capitalism needs socialism to ride herd over it to keep it from doing some really nasty things. Things like Child Labor, slave labor, slave wages, unsafe and deadly work environments. You badmouth Socialism yet without it, we would be choaking on the air, be poisined by the wanter, and worse. Take a look at the Capitalist that lives in the Whitehouse right now. He wants to remove every environmental law he can. There is a reason Coal has been going out of vogue since 1970 when the US decided to start cleaning up it's act in not only coal but dumping raw chemicals into our streams and rivers. You can badmouth the ones that want those regulations but those regulations have cleaned up this country and we still have a ways to go. Yo must be too young to remember the Chesipegue Bay where the Fish floated on a film of yuk. When you look today, the fish are back and if you do happen fall in, you don't die from the poison. Richard Nixon started this and it's been honored until now. The USA went from the most polluted nation on the face of the Earth to about the average. We were headed for one of the cleanest. Not if it's allowed to go back to the way it was. It's bad when a state like Colorado will fail the Air Test in 2020 if it had continue like it was going in 2012. As it stands now, Colorado will barely pass after shutting down all those Coal fired Power Plants and replacing them with alternative power.

Without a bit of Socialism, Capitalism unchecked is not a good thing. And that is what you suggest. Maybe a little socialism over the shoulder ain't so bad afterall.
 
This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.


More than a few seconds-try this-Medicare= good, Medicare for all=impossible. I paid into Medicare-you did not. Social Security= good, Welfare-horror show-I paid into SS, welfare will never be repaid and generations will expect it. Scholarships =good, free college=unfair- I paid ALL my college costs. Socialism is like salt, a little is good, more than that is bad for you and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. America is great again, why do we need all this new free stuff?


Last year, the CEOs got an average wage increase of over 7% or over 800K while the corporate workers recieved less than a 3% raise. Those are averages. Some got more, some got less. This is the normal annual increase for the CEOs while the Corporate Workers goes from zero to a high of 3%. But the CEOs percentage stays about the same or higher. Capitalism needs socialism to ride herd over it to keep it from doing some really nasty things. Things like Child Labor, slave labor, slave wages, unsafe and deadly work environments. You badmouth Socialism yet without it, we would be choaking on the air, be poisined by the wanter, and worse. Take a look at the Capitalist that lives in the Whitehouse right now. He wants to remove every environmental law he can. There is a reason Coal has been going out of vogue since 1970 when the US decided to start cleaning up it's act in not only coal but dumping raw chemicals into our streams and rivers. You can badmouth the ones that want those regulations but those regulations have cleaned up this country and we still have a ways to go. Yo must be too young to remember the Chesipegue Bay where the Fish floated on a film of yuk. When you look today, the fish are back and if you do happen fall in, you don't die from the poison. Richard Nixon started this and it's been honored until now. The USA went from the most polluted nation on the face of the Earth to about the average. We were headed for one of the cleanest. Not if it's allowed to go back to the way it was. It's bad when a state like Colorado will fail the Air Test in 2020 if it had continue like it was going in 2012. As it stands now, Colorado will barely pass after shutting down all those Coal fired Power Plants and replacing them with alternative power.

Without a bit of Socialism, Capitalism unchecked is not a good thing. And that is what you suggest. Maybe a little socialism over the shoulder ain't so bad afterall.

The more you need socialism is the more you admit you can't take care of yourself. Use it with extreme caution.
 
This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.


More than a few seconds-try this-Medicare= good, Medicare for all=impossible. I paid into Medicare-you did not. Social Security= good, Welfare-horror show-I paid into SS, welfare will never be repaid and generations will expect it. Scholarships =good, free college=unfair- I paid ALL my college costs. Socialism is like salt, a little is good, more than that is bad for you and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. America is great again, why do we need all this new free stuff?


Last year, the CEOs got an average wage increase of over 7% or over 800K while the corporate workers recieved less than a 3% raise. Those are averages. Some got more, some got less. This is the normal annual increase for the CEOs while the Corporate Workers goes from zero to a high of 3%. But the CEOs percentage stays about the same or higher. Capitalism needs socialism to ride herd over it to keep it from doing some really nasty things. Things like Child Labor, slave labor, slave wages, unsafe and deadly work environments. You badmouth Socialism yet without it, we would be choaking on the air, be poisined by the wanter, and worse. Take a look at the Capitalist that lives in the Whitehouse right now. He wants to remove every environmental law he can. There is a reason Coal has been going out of vogue since 1970 when the US decided to start cleaning up it's act in not only coal but dumping raw chemicals into our streams and rivers. You can badmouth the ones that want those regulations but those regulations have cleaned up this country and we still have a ways to go. Yo must be too young to remember the Chesipegue Bay where the Fish floated on a film of yuk. When you look today, the fish are back and if you do happen fall in, you don't die from the poison. Richard Nixon started this and it's been honored until now. The USA went from the most polluted nation on the face of the Earth to about the average. We were headed for one of the cleanest. Not if it's allowed to go back to the way it was. It's bad when a state like Colorado will fail the Air Test in 2020 if it had continue like it was going in 2012. As it stands now, Colorado will barely pass after shutting down all those Coal fired Power Plants and replacing them with alternative power.

Without a bit of Socialism, Capitalism unchecked is not a good thing. And that is what you suggest. Maybe a little socialism over the shoulder ain't so bad afterall.

The more you need socialism is the more you admit you can't take care of yourself. Use it with extreme caution.


The more you think you need Capitalism the more you want to work for slave labor.
 
Young peoples' apparent embrace of "socialism" is more a matter of economic ignorance and victimization by public school propaganda than any intelligent movement. Had they been able to see what the Soviet Union was, how it operated and how it treated its people, perhaps "they" wouldn't be so clueless about socialism. And if they were a little bit more attuned to how life works in Denmark, and not some fantasy based on ignorance. Denmark embraces its capitalism.

As for "free" college, I'm fine with it. (I am a Trump supporter and a card-carrying member of the Great Right-Wing Conspiracy). Make college "free" and restrict it to the top 25% of the students in the State, based on TEST SCORES. No affirmative action or diversity bullshit. It can be funded similarly to the public schools we currently have, just add a few percent to your property taxes.

But in my view, these public colleges should exist without all the bullshit that accompanies our current higher "education" paradigm, and inflates the cost. No athletic scholarships, no non-academic clubs or activities sponsored by the taxpayers, and a limited number of majors, none of which would include the word, "studies." No persons, classes, or departments containing the word, "diversity," No fewer than 40 students in any class, and year-round sessions, with a normal graduation time of three (3) years.

Sign me up.
 
This little tidbit made a lot of sense. If you were to actually stop fighting and blaming each other with the hate and venom long enough to take the few seconds to watch these few seconds it might be beneficial to all of us.


More than a few seconds-try this-Medicare= good, Medicare for all=impossible. I paid into Medicare-you did not. Social Security= good, Welfare-horror show-I paid into SS, welfare will never be repaid and generations will expect it. Scholarships =good, free college=unfair- I paid ALL my college costs. Socialism is like salt, a little is good, more than that is bad for you and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. America is great again, why do we need all this new free stuff?


Last year, the CEOs got an average wage increase of over 7% or over 800K while the corporate workers recieved less than a 3% raise. Those are averages. Some got more, some got less. This is the normal annual increase for the CEOs while the Corporate Workers goes from zero to a high of 3%. But the CEOs percentage stays about the same or higher. Capitalism needs socialism to ride herd over it to keep it from doing some really nasty things. Things like Child Labor, slave labor, slave wages, unsafe and deadly work environments. You badmouth Socialism yet without it, we would be choaking on the air, be poisined by the wanter, and worse. Take a look at the Capitalist that lives in the Whitehouse right now. He wants to remove every environmental law he can. There is a reason Coal has been going out of vogue since 1970 when the US decided to start cleaning up it's act in not only coal but dumping raw chemicals into our streams and rivers. You can badmouth the ones that want those regulations but those regulations have cleaned up this country and we still have a ways to go. Yo must be too young to remember the Chesipegue Bay where the Fish floated on a film of yuk. When you look today, the fish are back and if you do happen fall in, you don't die from the poison. Richard Nixon started this and it's been honored until now. The USA went from the most polluted nation on the face of the Earth to about the average. We were headed for one of the cleanest. Not if it's allowed to go back to the way it was. It's bad when a state like Colorado will fail the Air Test in 2020 if it had continue like it was going in 2012. As it stands now, Colorado will barely pass after shutting down all those Coal fired Power Plants and replacing them with alternative power.

Without a bit of Socialism, Capitalism unchecked is not a good thing. And that is what you suggest. Maybe a little socialism over the shoulder ain't so bad afterall.

The more you need socialism is the more you admit you can't take care of yourself. Use it with extreme caution.


The more you think you need Capitalism the more you want to work for slave labor.

I actually don't need any of it-I act as I see fit and like to comment here. In college, every manner of politics, religion, or acid induced semi-reality was displayed. I just feel lucky to have been there then, and to be here now.
 

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