The right to break Islamic law

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    The last few days have seen a resurgence of the idea that, because Muslims are violent, we shouldn't offend them.

    Some are arguing that, if the intent of speech is to offend, it shouldn't be a0llowed.

    There are others that argue that, if you know someone will react negatively to something, you are responsible for their actions.

    I firmly believe that the intent of, and the reaction to, speech is irrelevant.

    Canada, like most countries, disagrees with me. They actually drug in the guy that published the Mohammad cartoons to ask him about his intent. I think his response when asked what his intent was should be taught to every child in the world.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iMNM1tef7g]What was your intent? - YouTube[/ame]

    Sharia law makes offending the prophet illegal, some people are saying that we, even though we live in non Muslim countries, should voluntarily follow Sharia law. We do not have Sharia law for a reason. We are faced with a choice right now, extremists have come up to us, stuck a gun in our face, and demanded that we take them someplace. Every security and safety expert has the exact same advice for people who find themselves in that situation, refuse to cooperate. You are better off having the confrontation at the primary crime scene than allowing them to take you to a secondary crime scene where they can kill you without attracting attention.

    If we get into the car of Sharia law now, we are under there control, and they will be able to take us wherever they want. We will move from the primary crime scene where we have a chance to the secondary crime scene. We have no idea where that will be, but we know we will have already lost control of the situation.

    We need to draw the line now, not later.
     
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    Try to learn Self Control.
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEm6gkUN0Zg&feature=player_embedded]Innocence of Muslims - Real Version - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Self control? I am not the one storming embassies, killing people, rioting, or screaming about how offensive it is that people say bad things about a guy that died 1600 years ago.
     
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    It is precisely self control that must be learned by all who think their internal states, such as religious beliefs, can and should be externalized.
     
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    Muslims are not ‘violent.’ There are individuals who commit criminal acts who happen to be Muslim, but their religion is incidental and irrelevant, also irrelevant is their claim that simply because their religion was ‘insulted’ their criminal acts are somehow justified.

    The United States is unique in the world with regard to its treatment of free expression and how that expression might impact individuals or society as a whole.

    According to current Constitutional case law, speech can be restricted only if that speech results imminent lawless action.

    As for Sharia ‘law,’ this is a non-issue; per Brandenberg and R.A.V., Americans will always be free to be as offensive, ugly, and hateful toward any religion they with impunity.
     
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    Laws should be put in place all over the world making defaming the Prophet of Islam a punishable crime. :cool:
     
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    If you really want a serious war, proceed with that program.
     
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    We are using the courts and legal advocates to further our agenda to make defamation of the Prophet a punishable crime in this country. :cool:
     
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    You will lose.
     
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    It's not going to happen, nor should it.
     

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