The Paradox of 'Israeli Retaliation"

[Ventura77]

"Israel Retaliates" ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s examine this word in light of the wildly disproportionate power imbalance: on one side we have a modern army, navy and air-force estimated to be the world's tenth most powerful--thanks to American taxpayers of course. On the other side we have a civilian population without any military---and yet we are supposed to believe that Israelis cower in fear. In this respect American media has devoted itself to a propaganda vessel so transparently absurd that it literally begs scrutiny. Jewish lies become progressively more brazen, Jews openly praise the grisly wet-work of the cowardly IDF---especially during Operation Cast-Lead, cynically planned to coincide with the transition from the Bush administration to the Obama administration...the IDF thugs managed to kill 400 Palestinian children in that one...and yet news anchors and political figures shamelessly dismissed the deaths of children as 'Israel's right to defend itself"!!!! But exactly like the mindless propaganda parrots that they are, Jews invoke what else---suicide bombers...most intelligent people would recognize this as a collective symptom of the cruel oppressive occupation, but Jews prefer to see it in strictly racist terms as a genetic characteristic of Arabs. However had the cowardly and compliant Jews used suicide bombers against the SS or Gestapo during WW2 you can bet the act would be venerated among them. In their twisted minds the victims don't inhere the right to fight back against the Jews...curious standards these Jews have, you steal, lie and kill the Arabs, and then propose to call them terrorists for fighting back any way that they can. Words fail me for someone immoral enough to blame the victims, but then again blaming their victims is all they can do lest someone invoke the most rudimentary questions of cause-n-effect...

 

[The Irish Ram]

Arabs have as much right to the Nation of Israel as you have to my front yard.
Cause and effect:
The British Empire returns Israel to the Jews.
The Jews invite Arabs to come live and work in Israel together.
Egypt tells those few Arabs to get out of Israel because Egypt decided to invade Israel.
Israel asked them to stay. They do not.
Egypt looses the war and refuses to let the uprooted Arabs into their land, so they squatted on the edge of the Jew's land, and have been terrorizing them ever since.
Inviting Hamas into Israel is akin to us inviting ISIS to take over Washington DC.

You have been brainwashed into believing there was a Palestine to begin with. There was not. The land belonged to the Brits., not the Arabs. Less that 3% of the land belonged to Arabs who sold to the Jews at exorbitant prices.

Stop trying to make the Jews give up their land. It is none of our business.

 

[Ventura77]

Arabs have as much right to the Nation of Israel as you have to my front yard.
Cause and effect:
The British Empire returns Israel to the Jews.
The Jews invite Arabs to come live and work in Israel together.
Egypt tells those few Arabs to get out of Israel because Egypt decided to invade Israel.
Israel asked them to stay. They do not.
Egypt looses the war and refuses to let the uprooted Arabs into their land, so they squatted on the edge of the Jew's land, and have been terrorizing them ever since.
Inviting Hamas into Israel is akin to us inviting ISIS to take over Washington DC.

You have been brainwashed into believing there was a Palestine to begin with. There was not. The land belonged to the Brits., not the Arabs. Less that 3% of the land belonged to Arabs who sold to the Jews at exorbitant prices.

Stop trying to make the Jews give up their land. It is none of our business.

This is not only dead wrong legally and historically, it is also a embarrassing mish-mash of vulgar propaganda and stated ignorance...let's begin with your first error:

#1: Not only do Arab/Palestinians have residency rights dating back to the 7th Century, there was no 'Nation of Israel' to invoke...

#2: The British Empire had no authority to return anything to Jews---most especially a politically suspect pack of Eastern European descendants of Khazar-converts to Judaism...Brits did not assume colonial authority until after the WW1 break-up of the Ottoman Empire...

#3: Your reference to the actions of Egypt is so ludicrous and ridiculous that it doesn't even justify a reply

#4 Your concluding bit of ignorance proposes to actually contradict centuries of Palestinian life, census-records and documentation and erroneously assume that the lands belonged to Britain...Historic Palestine was correctly a Colonial-Protectorate for most of its lengthy history, this distinction made its population no less Arabic or their residency rights no less valid...sadly enough you are even to stupid and disorganized to pass a basic propaganda test...to appreciate this omission permit me to re-phrase this: you are too dumb to even lie with the rest of them...

 

[Shusha]

This is not only dead wrong legally and historically, it is also a embarrassing mish-mash of vulgar propaganda and stated ignorance...

Compared to what?! The OP? Which, of course, is a fine example of academic scholarship and historic factual statements and balanced, fair commentary.

 

[Ventura77]

This is not only dead wrong legally and historically, it is also a embarrassing mish-mash of vulgar propaganda and stated ignorance...

Compared to what?! The OP? Which, of course, is a fine example of academic scholarship and historic factual statements and balanced, fair commentary.

LOL!!!! a hasbara-troll posting lectures on 'balance and fair play"????? I cannot stop laughing...please feel free to refute any part of my comments...we both know you can't!

 

[rylah]

"Israel Retaliates" ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s examine this word in light of the wildly disproportionate power imbalance: on one side we have a modern army, navy and air-force estimated to be the world's tenth most powerful--thanks to American taxpayers of course. On the other side we have a civilian population without any military---and yet we are supposed to believe that Israelis cower in fear. In this respect American media has devoted itself to a propaganda vessel so transparently absurd that it literally begs scrutiny. Jewish lies become progressively more brazen, Jews openly praise the grisly wet-work of the cowardly IDF---especially during Operation Cast-Lead, cynically planned to coincide with the transition from the Bush administration to the Obama administration...the IDF thugs managed to kill 400 Palestinian children in that one...and yet news anchors and political figures shamelessly dismissed the deaths of children as 'Israel's right to defend itself"!!!! But exactly like the mindless propaganda parrots that they are, Jews invoke what else---suicide bombers...most intelligent people would recognize this as a collective symptom of the cruel oppressive occupation, but Jews prefer to see it in strictly racist terms as a genetic characteristic of Arabs. However had the cowardly and compliant Jews used suicide bombers against the SS or Gestapo during WW2 you can bet the act would be venerated among them. In their twisted minds the victims don't inhere the right to fight back against the Jews...curious standards these Jews have, you steal, lie and kill the Arabs, and then propose to call them terrorists for fighting back any way that they can. Words fail me for someone immoral enough to blame the victims, but then again blaming their victims is all they can do lest someone invoke the most rudimentary questions of cause-n-effect...

I'm sorry, too many adjectives.
Too long.
Couldn't take any of that seriously.

Q. Are You always that stressed?

 

[Roudy]

What's the paradox...dot dot dot...internet jihadi Ventura lohoseher?

Arab Muslim terrorist animals attack Israeli civilians and Israel does what any civilized country does, defend itself and put the animals down.

 

[Roudy]

This is not only dead wrong legally and historically, it is also a embarrassing mish-mash of vulgar propaganda and stated ignorance...

Compared to what?! The OP? Which, of course, is a fine example of academic scholarship and historic factual statements and balanced, fair commentary.

And don't forget the dot dot dots...

 

[abi]

Compared to what?! The OP? Which, of course, is a fine example of academic scholarship and historic factual statements and balanced, fair commentary.

Obviously, this is sarcasm. Can you be specific? What exactly in the OP do you take issue with from a purely factual basis?

 

[Roudy]

Compared to what?! The OP? Which, of course, is a fine example of academic scholarship and historic factual statements and balanced, fair commentary.

Obviously, this is sarcasm. Can you be specific? What exactly in the OP do you take issue with from a purely factual basis?

What exactly does the OP ever say that is remotely true or factual. How about the assertion that Israelis are Jews is just a fabrication and a "propaganda"?

You guys are all nucking futs!

 

[Shusha]

LOL!!!! a hasbara-troll posting lectures on 'balance and fair play"????? I cannot stop laughing...please feel free to refute any part of my comments...we both know you can't!

What's to refute? Its a rant demonizing Jews. If you can come up with some sort of coherent argument for .... something ... I would be all too happy to discuss it with you.

 

[Shusha]

Obviously, this is sarcasm. Can you be specific? What exactly in the OP do you take issue with from a purely factual basis?

Its an anti-Jew rant. As such, it deserves no serious consideration.

 

[Roudy]

Obviously, this is sarcasm. Can you be specific? What exactly in the OP do you take issue with from a purely factual basis?

Its an anti-Jew rant. As such, it deserves no serious consideration.

Well here is Achmed the internet Jihadi scum showing adoration for Palestinian suicide bombing:

"However had the cowardly and compliant Jews used suicide bombers against the SS or Gestapo during WW2 you can bet the act would be venerated among them."

 

[abi]

What's to refute? Its a rant demonizing Jews. If you can come up with some sort of coherent argument for .... something ... I would be all too happy to discuss it with you.

True or False?

Let’s examine this word in light of the wildly disproportionate power imbalance: on one side we have a modern army, navy and air-force estimated to be the world's tenth most powerful--thanks to American taxpayers of course. On the other side we have a civilian population without any military---and yet we are supposed to believe that Israelis cower in fear.

True or False?

Jews openly praise the grisly wet-work of the cowardly IDF---especially during Operation Cast-Lead

True or False?

.the IDF thugs managed to kill 400 Palestinian children in that one...and yet news anchors and political figures shamelessly dismissed the deaths of children as 'Israel's right to defend itself"

True or False?

the victims don't inhere the right to fight back against the Jews...curious standards these Jews have, you steal, lie and kill the Arabs, and then propose to call them terrorists for fighting back any way that they can.

 

[Hollie]

What's to refute? Its a rant demonizing Jews. If you can come up with some sort of coherent argument for .... something ... I would be all too happy to discuss it with you.

True or False?

Let’s examine this word in light of the wildly disproportionate power imbalance: on one side we have a modern army, navy and air-force estimated to be the world's tenth most powerful--thanks to American taxpayers of course. On the other side we have a civilian population without any military---and yet we are supposed to believe that Israelis cower in fear.

True or False?

Jews openly praise the grisly wet-work of the cowardly IDF---especially during Operation Cast-Lead

True or False?

.the IDF thugs managed to kill 400 Palestinian children in that one...and yet news anchors and political figures shamelessly dismissed the deaths of children as 'Israel's right to defend itself"

True or False?

the victims don't inhere the right to fight back against the Jews...curious standards these Jews have, you steal, lie and kill the Arabs, and then propose to call them terrorists for fighting back any way that they can.

You appear to endorse the notion that islamic terrorists have an entitlement to acts of islamic terrorism without consequence.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Come visit the real world, Ventura.

The 1948 British Mandate of ownership:
71.2 % of the land was owned by Great Britain.
8.6% was owned by Jews.
3.3% of that land was owned by Arabs.
16.9% was owned by Arabs living in other countries.

When Egypt told those resident Arabs to get out of harms way, the Jewish Haifa Workers Counsel released this appeal:

"For years we have worked together city of Haifa. Do not fear, do not destroy your homes by your own hand. Do not bring upon yourselves tragedy by unnecessary evacuation and self imposed burdens. But in this city, yours and ours, the gates are open for work, for life, and for peace for you and your families."

April 27, 1950. The Arab National Committee of Haifa:

"The removal of the Arab inhabitants was voluntary and carried out at our request."

1960- On Egypt's refusal to allow those Arabs into their country, by King Hussein of Jordan:

"The Arab nations added to the plight of the "refugees" by keeping them in refugee camps and by not allowing them to integrate in the countries where they had settled. Since 1948 Arab leaders have used the Palestine people for selfish political purposes. It is ridiculous, and I could say even criminal."

Those squatters belong in Egypt, not Israel. This is an Egyptian created problem, not a Jewish one. Leave the Jews and their land alone.

 

[Roudy]

What's to refute? Its a rant demonizing Jews. If you can come up with some sort of coherent argument for .... something ... I would be all too happy to discuss it with you.

True or False?

Let’s examine this word in light of the wildly disproportionate power imbalance: on one side we have a modern army, navy and air-force estimated to be the world's tenth most powerful--thanks to American taxpayers of course. On the other side we have a civilian population without any military---and yet we are supposed to believe that Israelis cower in fear.

True or False?

Jews openly praise the grisly wet-work of the cowardly IDF---especially during Operation Cast-Lead

True or False?

.the IDF thugs managed to kill 400 Palestinian children in that one...and yet news anchors and political figures shamelessly dismissed the deaths of children as 'Israel's right to defend itself"

True or False?

the victims don't inhere the right to fight back against the Jews...curious standards these Jews have, you steal, lie and kill the Arabs, and then propose to call them terrorists for fighting back any way that they can.

#1: Not only do Arab/Palestinians have residency rights dating back to the 7th Century. FALSE! Residency rights? Is that like another recent Arab invention?! Ha ha ha.

#2: The British Empire had no authority to return anything to Jews False!---most especially a politically suspect pack of Eastern European descendants of Khazar-converts to Judaism Debunked garbage. ...Brits did not assume colonial authority until after the WW1 break-up of the Ottoman Empire..False! Brits conquered the remains of the fallen Ottoman Empire. The land was not under the control of Arabs for the last 700 years of Ottoman rule, and the Ottomans who were MUSLIMS did not recognize a Palestine or Palestinian people.

 

[Shusha]

True or False?

Let’s examine this word in light of the wildly disproportionate power imbalance: on one side we have a modern army, navy and air-force estimated to be the world's tenth most powerful--thanks to American taxpayers of course. On the other side we have a civilian population without any military---and yet we are supposed to believe that Israelis cower in fear.

Anti-Jew rant. If Arabs have a right to "resist" -- does Israel have a right to defend her sovereignty and her people? Yes or no?

True or False?

Jews openly praise the grisly wet-work of the cowardly IDF---especially during Operation Cast-Lead

Anti-Jew rant. If Arabs have a right to "resist" -- does Israel have a right to defend her sovereignty and her people? Yes or No?

True or False?

.the IDF thugs managed to kill 400 Palestinian children in that one...and yet news anchors and political figures shamelessly dismissed the deaths of children as 'Israel's right to defend itself"

Anti-Jew rant. If Arabs have a right to "resist" -- does Israel have a right to defend her sovereignty and her people? Yes or no?

True or False?

the victims don't inhere the right to fight back against the Jews...curious standards these Jews have, you steal, lie and kill the Arabs, and then propose to call them terrorists for fighting back any way that they can.

Anti-Jew rant. If Arabs have a right to "resist" -- does Israel have a right to defend her sovereignty and her people? Yes or no?

 

[Roudy]

True or False?

Let’s examine this word in light of the wildly disproportionate power imbalance: on one side we have a modern army, navy and air-force estimated to be the world's tenth most powerful--thanks to American taxpayers of course. On the other side we have a civilian population without any military---and yet we are supposed to believe that Israelis cower in fear.

Anti-Jew rant. If Arabs have a right to "resist" -- does Israel have a right to defend her sovereignty and her people? Yes or no?

True or False?

Jews openly praise the grisly wet-work of the cowardly IDF---especially during Operation Cast-Lead

Anti-Jew rant. If Arabs have a right to "resist" -- does Israel have a right to defend her sovereignty and her people? Yes or No?

True or False?

.the IDF thugs managed to kill 400 Palestinian children in that one...and yet news anchors and political figures shamelessly dismissed the deaths of children as 'Israel's right to defend itself"

Anti-Jew rant. If Arabs have a right to "resist" -- does Israel have a right to defend her sovereignty and her people? Yes or no?

True or False?

the victims don't inhere the right to fight back against the Jews...curious standards these Jews have, you steal, lie and kill the Arabs, and then propose to call them terrorists for fighting back any way that they can.

Anti-Jew rant. If Arabs have a right to "resist" -- does Israel have a right to defend her sovereignty and her people? Yes or no?

They say fiber or Metamucil helps with resistance.

 

[rylah]

Hamas, the first Palestinian army

The Hamas movement was founded six days after the eruption of the first intifada at the end of 1987. The first terrorist acts of the military wing were perpetrated by the “101 Unit” established in the Jabaliya refugee camp in the Gaza Strip. Its people abducted and murdered Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers Avi Sasportas (February 1989) and Ilan Saadon (May 1989), and concealed their bodies.

Hamas’ terrorist acts became more deadly and murderous after the signing of the Oslo Accord between Israel and the PLO in 1993. Hamas attempted to subvert the agreement with terrorist attacks by suicide bombers. The height of suicide terrorism was reached in the second intifada in 2000, when the State of Israel was inundated by a wave of attacks that were directed mainly against civilians. Hamas’ military wing then adopted the suicide attack model of Hezbollah. Small, compartmentalized terror cells acted independently to plan attacks and send terrorists to blow themselves up in shopping centers and buses in Israel’s major cities.

After the disengagement from the Gaza Strip (August 2005), the movement underwent a strategic change: From small terror cells, it developed into a real army. Hamas became an organization of uniform wearers whose daily pursuit was military; they were trained according to the doctrine of a recruited army. They underwent weapons training and developed excellent military skills, together with religious indoctrination to strengthen their faith and adherence to the jihadist cause. Thus, in effect, Hamas created the first Palestinian army....

Hamas, the first Palestinian army


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