The Liberals have run congress since 2007, this is their mess

[Sallow]

Gramps, it goes back further than that.

The Second Bill of Rights was a list of rights proposed by Franklin D. Roosevelt, the then President of the United States, during his State of the Union Address on January 11, 1944. In his address Roosevelt suggested that the nation had come to recognize, and should now implement, a second "bill of rights". Roosevelt's argument was that the "political rights" guaranteed by the constitution and the Bill of Rights had "proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness." Roosevelt's remedy was to declare an "economic bill of rights" which would guarantee:

Employment, with a living wage,
Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies,
Housing,
Medical care,
Education, and,
Social security

This bill of rights held a number of parallels with the programme of the New Deal. It also reflected some elements of the 1936 Soviet Constitution, which guaranteed to the Soviet citizens the right to work, rest and leisure, health protection, care in old age and sickness, housing, education, and cultural benefits.
Second Bill of Rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it was FDR that began Fanny and Freddie.

Which contrasts Hitler's plan to marry Church and Government, establish defacto monopolies, strip workers of their rights and make them into real slaves and wage slaves, funnel tax payer money to huge corporations, kill socialists, communists, homosexuals, jews and gypsies, and bring back the "Traditional" values of Germany such as one religion, one race and one country.

Sounds alot like Bachmann and Perry..well the Tea Party in general..

Sieg Heil.

Imagine how much less ignorant you would be if you could replace propaganda with erudition.
From Schivelbusch, "Three New Deals," chapter one"

1. In 1933, Fascism was celebrating its eleventh year in power, in Italy, and the election of the National Socialists in Germany represented an unmitigated defeat for liberal democracy in Europe’s largest industrialized nation.

a. At the beginning of the same month, FDR was inaugurated as President. And before Congress went into recess it granted powers to Roosevelt unprecedented in peacetime. From Congressional hearings, 1973: “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.” Emergency Powers Statutes (Senate Report 93-549)
Now, who does that sound like....hmmmm..oh, yes, Democrat progressive Rahm Emmanuel.

2. The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:

a. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”

b. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

c. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his [Roosevelt's] book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”

Wow, doesn't that pretty much prove what a fool you are?

d. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

3. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.


I can't thank you enough for exposing how little you know about history! Bravo!

4. And, for one of your persuasion, how about another nail in your coffin: Norman Thomas chimes in:
“The similarities of the economics of the New Deal to the economics of Mussolini’s corporative state or Hitler’s totalitarian state are both close and obvious.” Norman Thomas, head of the American Socialist Party.

Did you actually get a diploma when you graduated from Clown College???

Come chickie..

If there were concentration camps set up..and populated with Muslims..

And they tossed them into ovens..

You'd be firing them up.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Which contrasts Hitler's plan to marry Church and Government, establish defacto monopolies, strip workers of their rights and make them into real slaves and wage slaves, funnel tax payer money to huge corporations, kill socialists, communists, homosexuals, jews and gypsies, and bring back the "Traditional" values of Germany such as one religion, one race and one country.

Sounds alot like Bachmann and Perry..well the Tea Party in general..

Sieg Heil.

Imagine how much less ignorant you would be if you could replace propaganda with erudition.
From Schivelbusch, "Three New Deals," chapter one"

1. In 1933, Fascism was celebrating its eleventh year in power, in Italy, and the election of the National Socialists in Germany represented an unmitigated defeat for liberal democracy in Europe’s largest industrialized nation.

a. At the beginning of the same month, FDR was inaugurated as President. And before Congress went into recess it granted powers to Roosevelt unprecedented in peacetime. From Congressional hearings, 1973: “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.” Emergency Powers Statutes (Senate Report 93-549)
Now, who does that sound like....hmmmm..oh, yes, Democrat progressive Rahm Emmanuel.

2. The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:

a. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”

b. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

c. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his [Roosevelt's] book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”

Wow, doesn't that pretty much prove what a fool you are?

d. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

3. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.


I can't thank you enough for exposing how little you know about history! Bravo!

4. And, for one of your persuasion, how about another nail in your coffin: Norman Thomas chimes in:
“The similarities of the economics of the New Deal to the economics of Mussolini’s corporative state or Hitler’s totalitarian state are both close and obvious.” Norman Thomas, head of the American Socialist Party.

Did you actually get a diploma when you graduated from Clown College???

Are you a Nazi?

Can you read?

 

[Sallow]

Did you actually get a diploma when you graduated from Clown College???

Are you a Nazi?

She looks super in an SS uniform!

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

[
Barney Frank and the dems are responsible for the housing crisis.

No they aren't. Stupid bankers and home buyers are responsible for the mortgage crisis.


Mostly stupid investment bankers.

INVESTMENT bankers - who work at INVESTMENT banks - which are NOT regulated by the Community Reinvestment Act.

Do you expect me to take you serious when your obsessed with being a grammar Nazi?

I don't expect you'd actually do anything that would require actually thinking, regardless of how I act.


I'm not a grammar Nazi. I just can't understand the subject heading! What is Congress sensing? What are they doing over there?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Imagine how much less ignorant you would be if you could replace propaganda with erudition.
From Schivelbusch, "Three New Deals," chapter one"

1. In 1933, Fascism was celebrating its eleventh year in power, in Italy, and the election of the National Socialists in Germany represented an unmitigated defeat for liberal democracy in Europe’s largest industrialized nation.

a. At the beginning of the same month, FDR was inaugurated as President. And before Congress went into recess it granted powers to Roosevelt unprecedented in peacetime. From Congressional hearings, 1973: “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.” Emergency Powers Statutes (Senate Report 93-549)
Now, who does that sound like....hmmmm..oh, yes, Democrat progressive Rahm Emmanuel.

2. The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:

a. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”

b. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

c. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his [Roosevelt's] book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”

Wow, doesn't that pretty much prove what a fool you are?

d. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

3. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.


I can't thank you enough for exposing how little you know about history! Bravo!

4. And, for one of your persuasion, how about another nail in your coffin: Norman Thomas chimes in:
“The similarities of the economics of the New Deal to the economics of Mussolini’s corporative state or Hitler’s totalitarian state are both close and obvious.” Norman Thomas, head of the American Socialist Party.

Did you actually get a diploma when you graduated from Clown College???

Are you a Nazi?

Can you read?

Yep.

So I guess you're a Nazi?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Which contrasts Hitler's plan to marry Church and Government, establish defacto monopolies, strip workers of their rights and make them into real slaves and wage slaves, funnel tax payer money to huge corporations, kill socialists, communists, homosexuals, jews and gypsies, and bring back the "Traditional" values of Germany such as one religion, one race and one country.

Sounds alot like Bachmann and Perry..well the Tea Party in general..

Sieg Heil.

Imagine how much less ignorant you would be if you could replace propaganda with erudition.
From Schivelbusch, "Three New Deals," chapter one"

1. In 1933, Fascism was celebrating its eleventh year in power, in Italy, and the election of the National Socialists in Germany represented an unmitigated defeat for liberal democracy in Europe’s largest industrialized nation.

a. At the beginning of the same month, FDR was inaugurated as President. And before Congress went into recess it granted powers to Roosevelt unprecedented in peacetime. From Congressional hearings, 1973: “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.” Emergency Powers Statutes (Senate Report 93-549)
Now, who does that sound like....hmmmm..oh, yes, Democrat progressive Rahm Emmanuel.

2. The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:

a. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”

b. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

c. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his [Roosevelt's] book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”

Wow, doesn't that pretty much prove what a fool you are?

d. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

3. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.


I can't thank you enough for exposing how little you know about history! Bravo!

4. And, for one of your persuasion, how about another nail in your coffin: Norman Thomas chimes in:
“The similarities of the economics of the New Deal to the economics of Mussolini’s corporative state or Hitler’s totalitarian state are both close and obvious.” Norman Thomas, head of the American Socialist Party.

Did you actually get a diploma when you graduated from Clown College???

Come chickie..

If there were concentration camps set up..and populated with Muslims..

And they tossed them into ovens..

You'd be firing them up.

As I have completely dissected your idea that it is the Right's position is akin to that of the that of the National Socialists, and documented that the exact opposite is true....
...true to your abilities you can do naught but change the subject.

I assume that means that I win, you lose?

Of course, the silver lining is that, taken together, we prove that diversity - of knowledge- is alive and well on the USMB!

 

[Avorysuds]

When Obama took office America was heading towards a depression. No one on the right has given him credit for keeping America out that depression.

You mean the Depression we are in?

Only you are calling it that.

And only you are saying Obama saved us from a Depression, on accident I might add... On accident meaning Obama and his team didn't even know there was/could be one until the stimulus failed to meet any of their own benchmarks so they went ahead and claimed it failed but really saved us from something worse.

Oh hey, did you know Bush saved America from 32 possible depression while he was in office? Yeah he did, prove me wrong...

 

[NoNukes]

You mean the Depression we are in?

Only you are calling it that.

And only you are saying Obama saved us from a Depression, on accident I might add... On accident meaning Obama and his team didn't even know there was/could be one until the stimulus failed to meet any of their own benchmarks so they went ahead and claimed it failed but really saved us from something worse.

Oh hey, did you know Bush saved America from 32 possible depression while he was in office? Yeah he did, prove me wrong...

Sorry, but I am not the only one who recognizes the truth.

 

[Avorysuds]

Are you a Nazi?

Can you read?

Yep.

So I guess you're a Nazi?

What the hell is going on... are all the old Troll just starting new profiles or something? It's strange that some leave only to be replaced immediately by a new Troll... Nazi, really?

Maybe they feel it makes Obama seem like he has more supporters or something… All the talking points are the exact same but it does not change reality.

 

[NoNukes]

[
Barney Frank and the dems are responsible for the housing crisis.

No they aren't. Stupid bankers and home buyers are responsible for the mortgage crisis.


Mostly stupid investment bankers.

INVESTMENT bankers - who work at INVESTMENT banks - which are NOT regulated by the Community Reinvestment Act.

Do you expect me to take you serious when your obsessed with being a grammar Nazi?

If you want people to listen, you should show some intelligence.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Democratic policy:

Make sure all poor people own homes even if they can't afford them and aren't smart enough to realize it.

Can you please tell me what law forced investment banks to buy bad loans and write CDS on bad loans? Thanks!

a. Congress passed a bill in 1975 requiring banks to provide the government with information on their lending activities in poor urban areas. Two years later, it passed the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which gave regulators the power to deny banks the right to expand if they didn’t lend sufficiently in those neighborhoods. In 1979 the FDIC used the CRA to block a move by the Greater NY Savings Bank for not enough lending.

b. In 1986, when the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn) threatened to oppose an acquisition by a southern bank, Louisiana Bancshares, until it agreed to new “flexible credit and underwriting standards” for minority borrowers—for example, counting public assistance and food stamps as income.

c. In 1987, Acorn led a coalition of advocacy groups calling for industry-wide changes in lending standards. Among the demanded reforms were the easing of minimum down-payment requirements and of the requirement that borrowers have enough cash at a closing to cover two to three months of mortgage payments (research had shown that lack of money in hand was a big reason some mortgages failed quickly).

d. ACORN then attacked Fannie Mae, the giant quasi-government agency that bought loans from banks in order to allow them to make new loans. Its underwriters were “strictly by-the-book interpreters” of lending standards and turned down purchases of unconventional loans, charged Acorn. The pressure eventually paid off. In 1992, Congress passed legislation requiring Fannie Mae and the similar Freddie Mac to devote 30 percent of their loan purchases to mortgages for low- and moderate-income borrowers.

e. Pressuring nonbank lenders to make more loans to poor minorities didn’t stop with Sears. If it didn’t happen, Clinton officials warned, they’d seek to extend CRA regulations to all mortgage makers. In Congress, Representative Maxine Waters called financial firms not covered by the CRA “among the most egregious redliners.”

f. In 2004 Congress pressed new affordable-housing goals on the two mortgage giants, which through 2007 purchased some $1 trillion in loans to lower- and moderate-income buyers. The buying spree helped spark a massive increase in securitization of mortgages to people with dubious credit.

g. . The Congressional Hispanic Caucus launched Hogar in 2003, an initiative that pushed for easing lending standards for immigrants, including touting so-called seller-financed mortgages in which a builder provided down-payment aid to buyers via contributions to nonprofit groups. As a result, mortgage lending to Hispanics soared. And today, in districts where Hispanics make up at least 25 percent of the population, foreclosure rates are now nearly 50 percent higher than the national average, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis.
Obsessive Housing Disorder by Steven Malanga, City Journal Spring 2009

You're welcome.

 

[Avorysuds]

Only you are calling it that.

And only you are saying Obama saved us from a Depression, on accident I might add... On accident meaning Obama and his team didn't even know there was/could be one until the stimulus failed to meet any of their own benchmarks so they went ahead and claimed it failed but really saved us from something worse.

Oh hey, did you know Bush saved America from 32 possible depression while he was in office? Yeah he did, prove me wrong...

Sorry, but I am not the only one who recognizes the truth.

Yes, I know... You, Obama and a few other fringe people claim Obama saved us from a depression on accident...

Now, prove Bush didn’t' save America from 32 "possible" depressions....................... Now you understand what it's like to enter a debate with a dumb shit Troll. Maybe you can tell us why Obama won a Nobel peace prize while you're at it cuz he keeps starting wars and killing the fuck out of people.

 

[Sallow]

As I have completely dissected your idea that it is the Right's position is akin to that of the that of the National Socialists, and documented that the exact opposite is true....
...true to your abilities you can do naught but change the subject.

I assume that means that I win, you lose?

Of course, the silver lining is that, taken together, we prove that diversity - of knowledge- is alive and well on the USMB!

Dissect what idea?

Are you saying that you now oppose the Catholic Church?

Seriously?

 

[NoNukes]

And only you are saying Obama saved us from a Depression, on accident I might add... On accident meaning Obama and his team didn't even know there was/could be one until the stimulus failed to meet any of their own benchmarks so they went ahead and claimed it failed but really saved us from something worse.

Oh hey, did you know Bush saved America from 32 possible depression while he was in office? Yeah he did, prove me wrong...

Sorry, but I am not the only one who recognizes the truth.

Yes, I know... You, Obama and a few other fringe people claim Obama saved us from a depression on accident...

Now, prove Bush didn’t' save America from 32 "possible" depressions....................... Now you understand what it's like to enter a debate with a dumb shit Troll. Maybe you can tell us why Obama won a Nobel peace prize while you're at it cuz he keeps starting wars and killing the fuck out of people.

Maybe you can tell us which war Obama started.

I think that it is up to you to answer the 32 'possible' depressions. This is new to me.

 

[JRK]

The Liberals have run congress sense 2007, this is there mess

What is Congress sensing?

Where is the mess? Its over there?


LEARN TO USE ENGLISH

Learn to use English?
we have 6 million people without a job that was working in 08
We spent trillions we did not have to accomplish that

Apple lost 15 billion in cap yesterday, the DJIA has lost 2000 points + in a manner of days

401ks are starting to bleed, again

After 200+ years of US govt, for the first time we have been down graded by a rating agency. We are looking at another down grade if we do not stop this mess

And your worried about Since or sense?
Good for you
I bet you voted for Obama

 

[Sallow]

The Liberals have run congress sense 2007, this is there mess

What is Congress sensing?

Where is the mess? Its over there?


LEARN TO USE ENGLISH

Learn to use English?
we have 6 million people without a job that was working in 08
We spent trillions we did not have to accomplish that

Apple lost 15 billion in cap yesterday, the DJIA has lost 2000 points + in a manner of days

401ks are starting to bleed, again

After 200+ years of US govt, for the first time we have been down graded by a rating agency. We are looking at another down grade if we do not stop this mess

And your worried about Since or sense?
Good for you
I bet you voted for Obama

Tell the Tea Party Terrorists and the Republicans that Grover Norquist's pledge is not the United States Constitution.

That's what led to the downgrrade.

And the S&P Seriously fucked up too. I thinking that they will eventually wind up in court for this..because they used a brand spanking new formula to rate bonds.

Punditry.

 

[JRK]

What is Congress sensing?

Where is the mess? Its over there?


LEARN TO USE ENGLISH

Learn to use English?
we have 6 million people without a job that was working in 08
We spent trillions we did not have to accomplish that

Apple lost 15 billion in cap yesterday, the DJIA has lost 2000 points + in a manner of days

401ks are starting to bleed, again

After 200+ years of US govt, for the first time we have been down graded by a rating agency. We are looking at another down grade if we do not stop this mess

And your worried about Since or sense?
Good for you
I bet you voted for Obama

Tell the Tea Party Terrorists and the Republicans that Grover Norquist's pledge is not the United States Constitution.

That's what led to the downgrrade.

And the S&P Seriously fucked up too. I thinking that they will eventually wind up in court for this..because they used a brand spanking new formula to rate bonds.

Punditry.

Explain to me how people who have 0 authority, want us to balance the budget and go back to governing as the constitution guides us to caused any of this?

In 2007 with Iraq wide open we came withing 162 billion dollars of a balanced budget, That would be the last GOP budget
Today we borrow that each month with the liberal left controlling congress the entire time except the house for the last 32 weeks

explain to me how that happened? you really think people are that stupid?

 

[Avorysuds]

Sorry, but I am not the only one who recognizes the truth.

Yes, I know... You, Obama and a few other fringe people claim Obama saved us from a depression on accident...

Now, prove Bush didn’t' save America from 32 "possible" depressions....................... Now you understand what it's like to enter a debate with a dumb shit Troll. Maybe you can tell us why Obama won a Nobel peace prize while you're at it cuz he keeps starting wars and killing the fuck out of people.

Maybe you can tell us which war Obama started.

I think that it is up to you to answer the 32 'possible' depressions. This is new to me.

Well Obama didn't save the US from a Depression, if I have to prove Bush did then you have to prove Obama did, good luck lolz.

Obama has started a war with Pakistan and Libya... Or wait spending billions to kill people in other countries doesn't count as a war when Obama does it, just Bush...

Maybe next you will tell me in NATO and I'll have to pull out the clip on Jon Stewart making fun of the fact that WE are NATO.

 

[Avorysuds]

What is Congress sensing?

Where is the mess? Its over there?


LEARN TO USE ENGLISH

Learn to use English?
we have 6 million people without a job that was working in 08
We spent trillions we did not have to accomplish that

Apple lost 15 billion in cap yesterday, the DJIA has lost 2000 points + in a manner of days

401ks are starting to bleed, again

After 200+ years of US govt, for the first time we have been down graded by a rating agency. We are looking at another down grade if we do not stop this mess

And your worried about Since or sense?
Good for you
I bet you voted for Obama

Tell the Tea Party Terrorists and the Republicans that Grover Norquist's pledge is not the United States Constitution.

That's what led to the downgrrade.

And the S&P Seriously fucked up too. I thinking that they will eventually wind up in court for this..because they used a brand spanking new formula to rate bonds.

Punditry.

What is a Tea Party Terrorist? Is that like the race card or calling people a Nazi? Oh, it's swallow, nm I understand now...

Hey Swallow, tell us all how much you hate gays again, it's lol as shit.

 

[8537]

Well, it's a good thing you're not blaming the crisis on either party JRK. Ya know, like you said recently.

Did the Democratic takeover of the House in 2007 cause housing prices and their derivatives to begin declining in 2006?
Did it cause the creation of the largest expansion of the welfare state since LBJ in 2003?
Did it cause two wars that started in 2001 and 2003?

Barney Frank and the dems are responsible for the housing crisis.

Barney Frank, who was in the minority party, somehow caused the housing crisis?