The end of the American Dream

[AzogtheDefiler]

Kennedy took the top rates down from 90% to 70%. Sounds fair to me. Plus they don't actually pay that much check out Trump and Romney...

Why is it fair? Please explain. Why should successful people pay for those who are less successful?

Because they can afford it they get the most out of the government, and if they don't pay more, they end up with all the new wealth and all the power like they have in the United States under this GOP garbage. Every tax system ever has done it this way, and greedy assholes brainwashing you is not a great reason to change it LOL

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

 

[francoHFW]

Kennedy took the top rates down from 90% to 70%. Sounds fair to me. Plus they don't actually pay that much check out Trump and Romney...

Why is it fair? Please explain. Why should successful people pay for those who are less successful?

Because they can afford it they get the most out of the government, and if they don't pay more, they end up with all the new wealth and all the power like they have in the United States under this GOP garbage. Every tax system ever has done it this way, and greedy assholes brainwashing you is not a great reason to change it LOL

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

Thank you scumbag GOP and silly dupes.

 

[francoHFW]

Why is it fair? Please explain. Why should successful people pay for those who are less successful?

Because they can afford it they get the most out of the government, and if they don't pay more, they end up with all the new wealth and all the power like they have in the United States under this GOP garbage. Every tax system ever has done it this way, and greedy assholes brainwashing you is not a great reason to change it LOL

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Because they can afford it they get the most out of the government, and if they don't pay more, they end up with all the new wealth and all the power like they have in the United States under this GOP garbage. Every tax system ever has done it this way, and greedy assholes brainwashing you is not a great reason to change it LOL

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

 

[francoHFW]

Because they can afford it they get the most out of the government, and if they don't pay more, they end up with all the new wealth and all the power like they have in the United States under this GOP garbage. Every tax system ever has done it this way, and greedy assholes brainwashing you is not a great reason to change it LOL

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

And even the United States with ACA wow, but we are a ripped off by the rich Mess. Thanks scumbag GOP and you silly dupes...

 

[francoHFW]

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Everywhere outside your bubble of GOP fear-mongering about socialism being communism, yes absolutely, it's just fair capitalism with good vacations and a good safety net. Wake up and smell the coffee Bernie Sanders is not Stalin.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Everywhere outside your bubble of GOP fear-mongering about socialism being communism, yes absolutely, it's just fair capitalism with good vacations and a good safety net. Wake up and smell the coffee Bernie Sanders is not Stalin.

What is your operational definition of socialism?

 

[francoHFW]

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Everywhere outside your bubble of GOP fear-mongering about socialism being communism, yes absolutely, it's just fair capitalism with good vacations and a good safety net. Wake up and smell the coffee Bernie Sanders is not Stalin.

What is your operational definition of socialism?

Fair ccapitalism with well regulated economy with a good safety net Healthcare. Do you know what the minimum wage is in Australia?$19 for God's sake lol. I believe we would be socialists if we had Healthcare,even if we are a giveaway to the rich GOP Mess.

 

[francoHFW]

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Everywhere outside your bubble of GOP fear-mongering about socialism being communism, yes absolutely, it's just fair capitalism with good vacations and a good safety net. Wake up and smell the coffee Bernie Sanders is not Stalin.

What is your operational definition of socialism?

Fair ccapitalism with well regulated economy with a good safety net Healthcare. Do you know what the minimum wage is in Australia?$19 for God's sake lol. I believe we would be socialists if we had Healthcare,even if we are a giveaway to the rich GOP Mess.

We are the only rich country that doesn't have health care daycare paid parental leave good vacations modern infrastructure for Christ's sake, ID card to prevent illegal immigration, cheap college and training. All blocked by the GOP, super dupers. So that the rich can get taxed like the middle class. Greedy and stupid.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Why is it fair? Please explain. Why should successful people pay for those who are less successful?

Because they can afford it they get the most out of the government, and if they don't pay more, they end up with all the new wealth and all the power like they have in the United States under this GOP garbage. Every tax system ever has done it this way, and greedy assholes brainwashing you is not a great reason to change it LOL

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

Try reading what I wrote. It does help when thinking up a reply.

 

[gipper]

Oh, i remember.....>>>

Long-term disaster he was...lack of money to invest in education training and infrastructure is making us go to hell except for the rich of course.... So now we have the worst inequality and Upward Mobility and poverty ever not to mention the worst BS propaganda machine ever, the only reason they can stay in power is total doops. All downhill since Reagan, s*** heads.
Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 60 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

Blaming Ronnie for our current state of income inequality, is partisan stupidity.

I'm blaming the tax rates he passed which are basically still enforced dumbass

Okay but why not also blame all the presidents since Reagan, since they could have changed things? Particularly your beloved BJ Bubba and Big Ears.

Partisans. Ugh!

Absolutely untrue. Clinton never had 60 votes in the Senate Obama only did 4 three weeks all spent on ACA, and you can't raise taxes in the middle of another corrupt GOP economic meltdown d u h.

LMFAO!

Yet Reagan got those tax rates passed in both houses, yet the Ds held large majorities in both. Are you incapable of thinking logically?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Everywhere outside your bubble of GOP fear-mongering about socialism being communism, yes absolutely, it's just fair capitalism with good vacations and a good safety net. Wake up and smell the coffee Bernie Sanders is not Stalin.

What is your operational definition of socialism?

Fair ccapitalism with well regulated economy with a good safety net Healthcare. Do you know what the minimum wage is in Australia?$19 for God's sake lol. I believe we would be socialists if we had Healthcare,even if we are a giveaway to the rich GOP Mess.

Would you be OK if medical professionals paid zero taxes in return for Nationalized Healthcare?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Everywhere outside your bubble of GOP fear-mongering about socialism being communism, yes absolutely, it's just fair capitalism with good vacations and a good safety net. Wake up and smell the coffee Bernie Sanders is not Stalin.

What is your operational definition of socialism?

Fair ccapitalism with well regulated economy with a good safety net Healthcare. Do you know what the minimum wage is in Australia?$19 for God's sake lol. I believe we would be socialists if we had Healthcare,even if we are a giveaway to the rich GOP Mess.

Aussie $$$ it equates to about 13USD. Be fair.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Everywhere outside your bubble of GOP fear-mongering about socialism being communism, yes absolutely, it's just fair capitalism with good vacations and a good safety net. Wake up and smell the coffee Bernie Sanders is not Stalin.

What is your operational definition of socialism?

Fair ccapitalism with well regulated economy with a good safety net Healthcare. Do you know what the minimum wage is in Australia?$19 for God's sake lol. I believe we would be socialists if we had Healthcare,even if we are a giveaway to the rich GOP Mess.

We are the only rich country that doesn't have health care daycare paid parental leave good vacations modern infrastructure for Christ's sake, ID card to prevent illegal immigration, cheap college and training. All blocked by the GOP, super dupers. So that the rich can get taxed like the middle class. Greedy and stupid.

State schools are fairly affordable. The healthcare System is broken because of insurance companies and their lobbyists. Both parties are responsible for not banning lobbyists. I support a flat tax. Rich still pay the majority of taxes in the US.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Because they can afford it they get the most out of the government, and if they don't pay more, they end up with all the new wealth and all the power like they have in the United States under this GOP garbage. Every tax system ever has done it this way, and greedy assholes brainwashing you is not a great reason to change it LOL

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

Try reading what I wrote. It does help when thinking up a reply.

The “poor” in the US live better than the “middle class” in 3rd world countries.

 

[anotherlife]

The end of the American Dream is the student loan bubble. Since is is blindly underwritten by the government, unpayable, and can't be bankrupted away, future generations sink all their earnings into it instead of buying houses. So it is the government that ended the American Dream. Just another one of those socialist legislations of helping people.

 

[francoHFW]

Because I can afford it I should pay for those that cannot? Seems odd. I like a flat tax.

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

Try reading what I wrote. It does help when thinking up a reply.

The “poor” in the US live better than the “middle class” in 3rd world countries.

all the usual brainwashed talking points...

 

[francoHFW]

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Everywhere outside your bubble of GOP fear-mongering about socialism being communism, yes absolutely, it's just fair capitalism with good vacations and a good safety net. Wake up and smell the coffee Bernie Sanders is not Stalin.

What is your operational definition of socialism?

Fair ccapitalism with well regulated economy with a good safety net Healthcare. Do you know what the minimum wage is in Australia?$19 for God's sake lol. I believe we would be socialists if we had Healthcare,even if we are a giveaway to the rich GOP Mess.

We are the only rich country that doesn't have health care daycare paid parental leave good vacations modern infrastructure for Christ's sake, ID card to prevent illegal immigration, cheap college and training. All blocked by the GOP, super dupers. So that the rich can get taxed like the middle class. Greedy and stupid.

State schools are fairly affordable. The healthcare System is broken because of insurance companies and their lobbyists. Both parties are responsible for not banning lobbyists. I support a flat tax. Rich still pay the majority of taxes in the US.

They pay less than the percentage they earn, super duper. The GOP protects lobbyists and are a disgrace.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Of course you are brainwashed functional moron. That is a giveaway to the rich and screws the non rich, no money to invest in infrastructure, which has been halved since Reagan, and as a matter of fact if you count all taxes state and local and fees We have basically a flat tax system now and it is Wrecking the middle class and the country, despite all the happy news we have the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history, and in any rich country.

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

Try reading what I wrote. It does help when thinking up a reply.

The “poor” in the US live better than the “middle class” in 3rd world countries.

all the usual brainwashed talking points...

They have running water, indoor plumbing, food, heat, smart phones and cable TV. Relax.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You know what the first world is? Developed countries and Saudi Arabia has everything they don't have to work. But not really a developed country. That would be socialist countries like the EU Canada New Zealand Australia Japan.

Japan and Aussie are socialist? Come again?

Everywhere outside your bubble of GOP fear-mongering about socialism being communism, yes absolutely, it's just fair capitalism with good vacations and a good safety net. Wake up and smell the coffee Bernie Sanders is not Stalin.

What is your operational definition of socialism?

Fair ccapitalism with well regulated economy with a good safety net Healthcare. Do you know what the minimum wage is in Australia?$19 for God's sake lol. I believe we would be socialists if we had Healthcare,even if we are a giveaway to the rich GOP Mess.

We are the only rich country that doesn't have health care daycare paid parental leave good vacations modern infrastructure for Christ's sake, ID card to prevent illegal immigration, cheap college and training. All blocked by the GOP, super dupers. So that the rich can get taxed like the middle class. Greedy and stupid.

State schools are fairly affordable. The healthcare System is broken because of insurance companies and their lobbyists. Both parties are responsible for not banning lobbyists. I support a flat tax. Rich still pay the majority of taxes in the US.

They pay less than the percentage they earn, super duper. The GOP protects lobbyists and are a disgrace.

Key word is “earn”. Not their fault they worked harder to earn more. Thank you for agreeing with me. Are you going to stick to being civil or go off the rails again with your insane ad hominems?