The end of the American Dream

[rightwinger]

Income inequality is the WORST in the first world, and getting worse every year.

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

Try reading what I wrote. It does help when thinking up a reply.

The “poor” in the US live better than the “middle class” in 3rd world countries.

all the usual brainwashed talking points...

They have running water, indoor plumbing, food, heat, smart phones and cable TV. Relax.

Agree....our wealthy live quite well

 

[Skull Pilot]

And you think if someone else makes less that you'll make more?
Or that if someone else makes more then you'll make less?

Experts agree having high tax rates on the richest is the only way to stop this ridiculous CEO pay. Thanks scumbag GOP brainwash and silly Dupes like you all...

WHat a private company pays its people is none of your fucking business

and you won't get paid more if someone else gets paid less

Untrue. Also if we want fewer Socialists we need to stop creating them.

Tell me when some CEO got a pay raise and you got a pay cut because of it.

He got a pay raise by forcing others to take a pay cut

Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

 

[Skull Pilot]

CEO salaries are out of whack. That is for sure. Rightly or wrongly.

It is not just CEOs but all top level management irrespective of their performance

And you think if someone else makes less that you'll make more?
Or that if someone else makes more then you'll make less?

Experts agree having high tax rates on the richest is the only way to stop this ridiculous CEO pay. Thanks scumbag GOP brainwash and silly Dupes like you all...

WHat a private company pays its people is none of your fucking business

and you won't get paid more if someone else gets paid less

Spoken like a perfect chump of the greedy idiot rich...

Tell me when did you ever get a pay cut because some rich guy earned more.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

Try reading what I wrote. It does help when thinking up a reply.

The “poor” in the US live better than the “middle class” in 3rd world countries.

all the usual brainwashed talking points...

They have running water, indoor plumbing, food, heat, smart phones and cable TV. Relax.

Agree....our wealthy live quite well

And our so called poor are some of the richest poor people on the planet

 

[Skull Pilot]

CEO salaries are out of whack. That is for sure. Rightly or wrongly.

It is not just CEOs but all top level management irrespective of their performance

And you think if someone else makes less that you'll make more?
Or that if someone else makes more then you'll make less?

Experts agree having high tax rates on the richest is the only way to stop this ridiculous CEO pay. Thanks scumbag GOP brainwash and silly Dupes like you all...

WHat a private company pays its people is none of your fucking business

and you won't get paid more if someone else gets paid less

Have you ever worked for a corporation? Because that is PRECISELY how it works... the corporation Division is given a set budget for salaries and pay increases.... if the top takes most of the increase allotted in their payroll budget, then the rest of the employees get less.

Get less of the increase or take a pay cut?

You do realize a smaller than desired increase is still an increase don't you?

You do realize that if your salary is not actually reduced then you did not take a pay cut don't you?

 

[Skull Pilot]

It is not just CEOs but all top level management irrespective of their performance

And you think if someone else makes less that you'll make more?
Or that if someone else makes more then you'll make less?

Experts agree having high tax rates on the richest is the only way to stop this ridiculous CEO pay. Thanks scumbag GOP brainwash and silly Dupes like you all...

WHat a private company pays its people is none of your fucking business

and you won't get paid more if someone else gets paid less

Have you ever worked for a corporation? Because that is PRECISELY how it works... the corporation Division is given a set budget for salaries and pay increases.... if the top takes most of the increase allotted in their payroll budget, then the rest of the employees get less.

Trickle down

No one is forcing anyone to work anywhere.

 

[Skull Pilot]

WHat a private company pays its people is none of your fucking business

and you won't get paid more if someone else gets paid less

Have you ever worked for a corporation? Because that is PRECISELY how it works... the corporation Division is given a set budget for salaries and pay increases.... if the top takes most of the increase allotted in their payroll budget, then the rest of the employees get less.

That’s fine but if CEOs continue to get paid 300x the average employee vs 20x as was in the 80s then you have a self fulfilling prophecy of creating more and more socialists.

And the only way to combat it is with high taxes on the richest... Over the phone with the right information you people would all be Democrats....

If I made $100mil at 40% I pay $40mil. How much more do you want me to pay? What tax rate is fair in your opinion? Note that many Democrats are rich too.

The Democratic rich want to pay more... They know that a healthy middle class will pay them back... With a healthy economy

No they don't

If they did they would pay more voluntarily

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You think it’s worse in the US than Saudi or China where one out of every six people lives without plumbing or running water? Do tell.

Try reading what I wrote. It does help when thinking up a reply.

The “poor” in the US live better than the “middle class” in 3rd world countries.

all the usual brainwashed talking points...

They have running water, indoor plumbing, food, heat, smart phones and cable TV. Relax.

Agree....our wealthy live quite well

Clever...the wealthy have private islands!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Experts agree having high tax rates on the richest is the only way to stop this ridiculous CEO pay. Thanks scumbag GOP brainwash and silly Dupes like you all...

WHat a private company pays its people is none of your fucking business

and you won't get paid more if someone else gets paid less

Untrue. Also if we want fewer Socialists we need to stop creating them.

Tell me when some CEO got a pay raise and you got a pay cut because of it.

He got a pay raise by forcing others to take a pay cut

Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

 

[Skull Pilot]

WHat a private company pays its people is none of your fucking business

and you won't get paid more if someone else gets paid less

Untrue. Also if we want fewer Socialists we need to stop creating them.

Tell me when some CEO got a pay raise and you got a pay cut because of it.

He got a pay raise by forcing others to take a pay cut

Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Untrue. Also if we want fewer Socialists we need to stop creating them.

Tell me when some CEO got a pay raise and you got a pay cut because of it.

He got a pay raise by forcing others to take a pay cut

Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Tell me when some CEO got a pay raise and you got a pay cut because of it.

He got a pay raise by forcing others to take a pay cut

Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

The I have to get a raise every year mindset is just as stupid as the everyone has to go to college mind set.

And your employer is not cutting your pay if you don't get a raise.

Here's a novel idea

If you want to make more them make yourself more valuable to your employer or find an employer who thinks you are worth more than your current employer does.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

He got a pay raise by forcing others to take a pay cut

Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

The I have to get a raise every year mindset is just as stupid as the everyone has to go to college mind set.

And your employer is not cutting your pay if you don't get a raise.

Here's a novel idea

If you want to make more them make yourself more valuable to your employer or find an employer who thinks you are worth more than your current employer does.

I actually agree with you. I am playing Devil's Advocate. I still think its stupid for CEOs to get paid as much as many do but that is up to the shareholders. Free country.

 

[rightwinger]

Experts agree having high tax rates on the richest is the only way to stop this ridiculous CEO pay. Thanks scumbag GOP brainwash and silly Dupes like you all...

WHat a private company pays its people is none of your fucking business

and you won't get paid more if someone else gets paid less

Untrue. Also if we want fewer Socialists we need to stop creating them.

Tell me when some CEO got a pay raise and you got a pay cut because of it.

He got a pay raise by forcing others to take a pay cut

Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Went right over your head didn’t it?

 

[rightwinger]

He got a pay raise by forcing others to take a pay cut

Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

The I have to get a raise every year mindset is just as stupid as the everyone has to go to college mind set.

And your employer is not cutting your pay if you don't get a raise.

Here's a novel idea

If you want to make more them make yourself more valuable to your employer or find an employer who thinks you are worth more than your current employer does.

What if everyone has made themselves more valuable (profit and productivity) and nobody gets a raise

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

The I have to get a raise every year mindset is just as stupid as the everyone has to go to college mind set.

And your employer is not cutting your pay if you don't get a raise.

Here's a novel idea

If you want to make more them make yourself more valuable to your employer or find an employer who thinks you are worth more than your current employer does.

What if everyone has made themselves more valuable (profit and productivity) and nobody gets a raise

Free market. They may leave. The market decided compensation fairness.

 

[rightwinger]

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

The I have to get a raise every year mindset is just as stupid as the everyone has to go to college mind set.

And your employer is not cutting your pay if you don't get a raise.

Here's a novel idea

If you want to make more them make yourself more valuable to your employer or find an employer who thinks you are worth more than your current employer does.

What if everyone has made themselves more valuable (profit and productivity) and nobody gets a raise

Free market. They may leave. The market decided compensation fairness.

It sure did

And our government helped it

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

The I have to get a raise every year mindset is just as stupid as the everyone has to go to college mind set.

And your employer is not cutting your pay if you don't get a raise.

Here's a novel idea

If you want to make more them make yourself more valuable to your employer or find an employer who thinks you are worth more than your current employer does.

What if everyone has made themselves more valuable (profit and productivity) and nobody gets a raise

Free market. They may leave. The market decided compensation fairness.

It sure did

And our government helped it

???

 

[rightwinger]

I look at it this way

Our government can look at corporate compensation of the middle class and ask corporations to do something about it. The expected response will be something along the lines of ....Go fuk yourself

Or our government can look at policies in place to help corporations and begin to adjust those policies to help the working class more

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I look at it this way

Our government can look at corporate compensation of the middle class and ask corporations to do something about it. The expected response will be something along the lines of ....Go fuk yourself

Or our government can look at policies in place to help corporations and begin to adjust those policies to help the working class more

a liberal will lack the IQ to say more than "our government" Govt is magical to a liberal even after our Founders saw it as the source of evil in human history!