The end of the American Dream

look at policies in place to help corporations

like the highest taxes in the world, unions, regulations, budget deficits, and trade deals that drove them off shore?? Relocating 90,000 factories and 10 million jobs to China is helping them??
 
I look at it this way

Our government can look at corporate compensation of the middle class and ask corporations to do something about it. The expected response will be something along the lines of ....Go fuk yourself

Or our government can look at policies in place to help corporations and begin to adjust those policies to help the working class more

a liberal will lack the IQ to say more than "our government" Govt is magical to a liberal even after our Founders saw it as the source of evil in human history!
Currently our government is perfectly willing to intervene on behalf of corporations
It is time for them to intervene on behalf of the middle class
 
look at policies in place to help corporations

like the highest taxes in the world, unions, regulations, budget deficits, and trade deals that drove them off shore?? Relocating 90,000 factories and 10 million jobs to China is helping them??
Where do you get the idea we have the highest taxes in the world?
Unions have lost bargaining power and collective bargaining is a thing of the past
 
Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

The I have to get a raise every year mindset is just as stupid as the everyone has to go to college mind set.

And your employer is not cutting your pay if you don't get a raise.

Here's a novel idea

If you want to make more them make yourself more valuable to your employer or find an employer who thinks you are worth more than your current employer does.

I actually agree with you. I am playing Devil's Advocate. I still think its stupid for CEOs to get paid as much as many do but that is up to the shareholders. Free country.


too much? maybe you don't realize how important they are. There may be one guy in the world who can save GE for example. That guy is worth billions! Fortune 500 companies disappear all the time! whats amazing is how little they get paid!
 
Where do you get the idea we have the highest taxes in the world?
Unions have lost bargaining power and collective bargaining is a thing of the past

corporation taxes are down just now thank to Trump but should be 0 to help compensate for high wages in our county versus China. Unions have lost power but still threaten every corporation in America and everyone that might move here from offshore. Do you understand?
 
Finish school, get a job, get married, raise a family, take family vacations, buy a house, send your kids to college, eventually retire

Most jobs don't support middle-class life after accounting for cost of living, exclusive study shows

Sixty-two percent of jobs fall short of that middle-class standard when factoring in both wages and the cost of living in the metro area where the job is located, according to the study by Third Way, a think tank that advocates center-left ideas.

Why anyone found your informative, non-partisan post 'Funny' is beyond me.
 
Where do you get the idea we have the highest taxes in the world?
Unions have lost bargaining power and collective bargaining is a thing of the past

corporation taxes are down just now thank to Trump but should be 0 to help compensate for high wages in our county versus China. Unions have lost power but still threaten every corporation in America and everyone that might move here from offshore. Do you understand?
Corporations have no obligation to contribute to the society they profit from?
 
Really?

So every time anyone gets a raise someone else has to take a pay cut?

Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

The I have to get a raise every year mindset is just as stupid as the everyone has to go to college mind set.

And your employer is not cutting your pay if you don't get a raise.

Here's a novel idea

If you want to make more them make yourself more valuable to your employer or find an employer who thinks you are worth more than your current employer does.
What if everyone has made themselves more valuable (profit and productivity) and nobody gets a raise

Fantasy

The vast majority of people do just enough to not get fired.
 
Where do you get the idea we have the highest taxes in the world?
Unions have lost bargaining power and collective bargaining is a thing of the past

corporation taxes are down just now thank to Trump but should be 0 to help compensate for high wages in our county versus China. Unions have lost power but still threaten every corporation in America and everyone that might move here from offshore. Do you understand?
Corporations have no obligation to contribute to the society they profit from?
No. they don't

But then again one can say that providing jobs products and services is contributing
 
Would you consider zero raise a cut given the COLA?

No because your employer has nothing to do with the cost of living.

??? No but this is why many get raises unless its a promotion or a merit raise. Are you from Mars?

The I have to get a raise every year mindset is just as stupid as the everyone has to go to college mind set.

And your employer is not cutting your pay if you don't get a raise.

Here's a novel idea

If you want to make more them make yourself more valuable to your employer or find an employer who thinks you are worth more than your current employer does.
What if everyone has made themselves more valuable (profit and productivity) and nobody gets a raise

Fantasy

The vast majority of people do just enough to not get fired.

Bell Curve
 
Corporations have no obligation to contribute to the society they profit from?
Corporations are the society. Without them there are no jobs or products or society and we are all dead!! Corporations are like Gods.

Your statement is as absurd as asking, "A mother has no obligations to contribute to the child she created and is nourishing"?
 
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GDP has increased
The money is there. The percent that workers are paid is not keeping pace.

Median is really a crappy measurement.
 
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Corporate profits have increased over the last two decades
It has not gone to the workers
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2000(Q1) GDP, $12.9 trillion. 2012(Q4) GDP, $16.2 trillion.
49% x $12.9 trillion = $6.321 trillion.
44% x $16.2 trillion = $7.128 trillion.

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Jan 2000 nonfarm employment, 131,007,000
Dec 2012 nonfarm employment, 135,075,000

6,321,000,000,000 / 131,007,000 = 48,249
7,128,000,000,000 / 135,075,000 = 52,770
 
But then again one can say that providing jobs products and services is contributing

you mean just because we'd all be dead or back in the stone age without the contributions our saintly corporations make ??

Hey you don't have to work for any corporation if you don't want to.

Any employer offers opportunity not only for employment but for training and experience that people can use to better their position.

You all seem to think you are owed something but the truth is no one owes you a god damned thing.
 
But then again one can say that providing jobs products and services is contributing

you mean just because we'd all be dead or back in the stone age without the contributions our saintly corporations make ??

Hey you don't have to work for any corporation if you don't want to.

Any employer offers opportunity not only for employment but for training and experience that people can use to better their position.

You all seem to think you are owed something but the truth is no one owes you a god damned thing.

not sure what your point. most employers are corporations or the equivalent thereof.
 
But then again one can say that providing jobs products and services is contributing

you mean just because we'd all be dead or back in the stone age without the contributions our saintly corporations make ??

Hey you don't have to work for any corporation if you don't want to.

Any employer offers opportunity not only for employment but for training and experience that people can use to better their position.

You all seem to think you are owed something but the truth is no one owes you a god damned thing.

not sure what your point. most employers are corporations or the equivalent thereof.

You do realize that there are different types of corporations don't you?

Most are S corps and LLCs which don't have CEOs but are rather closely held businesses that get no special tax treatment as they are pass through entities and all the profits are claimed on the owners personal taxes.
 

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