Telsa new electric car the EXP36

[elektra]

"when dealing with inferior intellects, it is easy to manipulate them with a simple google result linking to wikipedia".

Old Crock, you do not know much about anything past wikipedia, this stuff is not, "as easy as pie", for you, is it?

Ever hear of the FTC, Old Crock? The Federal Trade Commission, they state your Tesla Model S in not made in the USA.
Complying with the Made in USA Standard | Federal Trade Commission. 55% Made in USA does not count as a Made in the USA product. The sticker on the car states the USA content. Lower left just in case Wikipedia does not tell you where to look.

THE STANDARD FOR UNQUALIFIED MADE IN USA CLAIMS
What is the standard for a product to be called Made in USA without qualification?
For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions.

What does "all or virtually all" mean?
"All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content

Or how about the NHTSA and the AALA? Seriously Old Crock? You went to Wikipedia!
Part 583 American Automobile Labeling Act (AALA) Reports | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)

 

[Old Rocks]

The window sticker on the Tesla Model S claims the electric sedan has about 55% American/Canadian-made content, enough to qualify it as a domestic car. This infographic labels some of Tesla’s outside suppliers, including Germany’s Bosch and Italy’s Brembo, as outside suppliers of parts. The biggest foreign-made part, however, is Tesla’s battery pack, which uses Panasonic laptop batteries that are “assembled” into larger battery packs at Tesla’s California factory.

The Gigafactory could boost the American-made content right up to 90% by building the batteries in their entirety in America. Right now Texas, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico are all courting Elon Musk in a bid to bring as many as a billion dollars and some 6,500 jobs to a state-of-the-art battery facility. Though Tesla’s battery partner Panasonic has remained skeptical of the plan, there’s a lot of public and private support for the idea.

With 90% American-made content, the Tesla Model S would beat even the Ford F-150, which counts just 75% of its parts as coming from domestic suppliers. Ford has been keen on moving production back to America, but with the switch to aluminum, the American-made content could swing either way. While the F-150 tops Cars.com American content list, and it’s been the best-selling vehicle in American for 32 years straight, an upstart electric sedanc ould unseat it

Tesla’s Gigafactory Providing More “American-Made” Cars Than Ford

As usual, Miss Elektra is a dollar short and a day late.

 

[elektra]

The window sticker on the Tesla Model S claims the electric sedan has about 55% American/Canadian-made content, enough to qualify it as a domestic car. This infographic labels some of Tesla’s outside suppliers, including Germany’s Bosch and Italy’s Brembo, as outside suppliers of parts. The biggest foreign-made part, however, is Tesla’s battery pack, which uses Panasonic laptop batteries that are “assembled” into larger battery packs at Tesla’s California factory.

The Gigafactory could boost the American-made content right up to 90% by building the batteries in their entirety in America. Right now Texas, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico are all courting Elon Musk in a bid to bring as many as a billion dollars and some 6,500 jobs to a state-of-the-art battery facility. Though Tesla’s battery partner Panasonic has remained skeptical of the plan, there’s a lot of public and private support for the idea.

With 90% American-made content, the Tesla Model S would beat even the Ford F-150, which counts just 75% of its parts as coming from domestic suppliers. Ford has been keen on moving production back to America, but with the switch to aluminum, the American-made content could swing either way. While the F-150 tops Cars.com American content list, and it’s been the best-selling vehicle in American for 32 years straight, an upstart electric sedanc ould unseat it

Tesla’s Gigafactory Providing More “American-Made” Cars Than Ford

As usual, Miss Elektra is a dollar short and a day late.

Old Crock will choose to ignore what the Federal Trade Commission dictates by law, stuff that the Democrats wrote and voted for and implemented.

55% does not qualify as a domestic product and can not be labeled as, "Made in the USA". I linked and quoted in this thread:
Telsa new electric car the EXP36

For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions.

What does "all or virtually all" mean?
"All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content

As usual, Old Crock is what Old Crock calls others, Old Crock is a filthy liar, your fingers all point back to you Old Crock.

 

[Old Rocks]

Now when Tesla starts using it's own batteries, the vehicle will be 90% made in America, exceeding the Ford F-150's 75% by 15%. Now how is that lying? Tesla sells more luxury cars than any other brand in the USA. And is the fastest luxury sedan under $200,000. In fact, going from 0 to legal limit, it goes head to head with the fastest Ferrari's and MacClaren's.

 

[elektra]

Now when Tesla starts using it's own batteries, the vehicle will be 90% made in America, exceeding the Ford F-150's 75% by 15%. Now how is that lying? Tesla sells more luxury cars than any other brand in the USA. And is the fastest luxury sedan under $200,000. In fact, going from 0 to legal limit, it goes head to head with the fastest Ferrari's and MacClaren's.

Now? When? You are making a prediction? When and if Tesla uses batteries made in the USA, then the Tesla will be 95%, ObamaCar.

All the Tesla ObamaCar will do is drive up the cost of cell phones, when Eon Musk begins to buy the World's complete supply of Lithium. Wall St. is going to love the Tesla Obama car, lithium is traded on Wall st.. And the expense of building both the revolutionary mine and the World's largest factory, the banks must love the money they make on those ObamaLoans.

Tesla sells more Luxury cars than any other company? Old Crock is a crock of ????

The Tesla ObamaCar is so fast it has won which race?

 

[Old Rocks]

Man, does Tesla ever torque Elektra's tit. LOL

#1 Large Luxury Car In US = Tesla Model S (2015 Sales Comparison)

As we all know, Tesla doesn’t report sales/deliveries by country. However, various outlets estimate Tesla sales using a variety of methods. EV Obsession estimated 26,566 Tesla Model S sales in the US in 2015. Rob notes that the lowest estimate was 24,200. In either case, the Model S outsold the Mercedes S-Class, the BMW 7-Series, the BMW 6-Series, the Audi A7, the Audi A8, the Porsche Panamera, and every other car in this class.

Here’s a quick look at how all these cars compared in 2015 vs 2014:

All the other luxury cars recorded negative numbers for 2015 versus 2014. Except Tesla.

Tesla Model S Is the Best-Selling Large Luxury Car in the United States in 2015

Not a day without a piece of Tesla news, we always say, but this time it’s actually quite big: Elon Musk’s company is giving hope to all those who wish that, one day, all cars will be electric.

For a “low-volume” manufacturer, Tesla Motors isn’t doing badly at all, as the sales numbers for last year do very well to prove. The Californian company managed to outsell all of its mostly conventionally-powered competitors and did so by a considerable margin.

The jury still hasn’t fully decided whether the Tesla Model S is indeed a luxury car or not, but considering the price alone, we’d say that argument is over. Comparing the Tesla Model S to the likes of Audi A7, Mercedes-Benz CLS or Porsche Panamera makes perfect sense. Putting it next to the S-Class, the 7 Series or the A8 is stretching it a bit, but just for the sake of conversation, we shall do it.

This achievement is even more impressive as the overall luxury market in the US has shrunk compared to the previous year (but only by 0.8 percent), and that’s before we take into account that it’s a frigging electric vehicle that’s dueling with the conventional products from some of the oldest car-making companies in the world.

The Tesla Model S itself has registered a significant growth compared to 2014, the total volume jumping by 51 percent. Not only is that a lot, but it’s also the single model to have better values in 2015 than in 2014. Basically, the Model S singlehandedly made sure that the segment didn’t dip further than the -0.8 percent thanks to its substantial growth

Read more: Tesla Model S Is the Best-Selling Large Luxury Car in the United States in 2015

 

[elektra]

Man, does Tesla ever torque Elektra's tit. LOL

#1 Large Luxury Car In US = Tesla Model S (2015 Sales Comparison)

As we all know, Tesla doesn’t report sales/deliveries by country. However, various outlets estimate Tesla sales using a variety of methods. EV Obsession estimated 26,566 Tesla Model S sales in the US in 2015. Rob notes that the lowest estimate was 24,200.

Ha, ha, ha. Mercedes sold over 300,000 cars just in the USA and people are making the outrageous claim that the problem prone Tesla outsold Mercedes?

One month of Mercedes sales, outsells the whole year for Tesla.

Too bad Mercedes did not have a car in the same class as Tesla, you know, problem plagued, limited range, extreme wait to "fill-up", and next to nothing room in the trunk.

Tesla Model S trunk space: 5.3 cubic feet (such an outlandish luxury)
Mercedes CLS: 15.3 cubic feet!
Mercedes S: 16.3 cubic feet!

A Tesla is a luxury to own (if you like a car that don't work), but it is not a luxury car, not with a tiny trunk that is about useless.

Of course, Tesla is also heavily subsidized, a $7,500 federal tax break and a $2,500 state tax break. $10,000! in tax breaks.

Mercedes-Benz - Home of C, E, S, CLS, CL, SLK, SL, R, GLK, M, GL, G Class

January 05 2016
MERCEDES-BENZ USA REPORTS HIGHEST YEAR EVER WITH 2015 SALES OF 380,461

 

[elektra]

Of course, Mercedes outsells Tesla, in every aspect of the word, even though a Tesla is not a luxury car (size matters). How low must Tesla go to find a Mercedes model they can compete with?

But that said;

Mercedes-Benz USA Reports Highest Year Ever With 2015 Sales Of 380,461

For the year, the Mercedes-Benz brand was led by the C-Class, M/GLE-Class and E-Class model lines. Like the month of December, the C-Class took the top spot for 2015 with 86,080 units, followed by the M/GLE-Class with 53,213 sales. The E-Class finished third, recording 49,736 sales for the year.

 

[Old Rocks]

Now silly ass Elektra, most of the Mercedes sold here are not luxury class cars. And Tesla sold about 20% more S class cars than the luxury class Mercedes being sold here. Really. you should get your tits untwisted, the Tesla is a great American Classic. Like the GT40 Ford.

 

[elektra]

Really. you should get your tits untwisted, the Tesla is a great American Classic. Like the GT40 Ford.

Old Crock, posts another Crock, seriously, when you see Old Crock post, it is always a Crock, pathetic, literally.

Guess what comes next, Old Crock!
Can the Tesla Model S beat the Mazda Miata's time around a racetrack? - Torque News

Reynolds was horrified that the Tesla couldn’t do better than a Miata. Based on the very specific messages the car was giving him, he understood that the car was limiting the power to the ground due to its battery temperature. So he bought 15 bags of ice, cooled the car’s drivetrain and then they re-did the test. And it was slower. - See more at: Can the Tesla Model S beat the Mazda Miata's time around a racetrack? - Torque News

A Tesla driven hard will need its drive train replaced at 10,000 miles, and Old Crock thinks any Tesla is equal to a Ford GT 40?
The GT 40 made its debut at Nurburgring, how does a Tesla perform at Nurburgring?

Nürburgring Proves Too Much For Tesla Model S: Video

Recent performance road cars are surprisingly good on track, by comparison--though some are still out of their depth. Take Tesla Motors' [NSDQ:TSLA] all-electric Model S around the Nürburgring, for example, and you soon begin to find limitations that just aren't there when you drive it on the road. Racing driver Robb Holland has discovered just that, as the Model S he pilots in the video above struggles under its own weight.

In fact, after just a third of the 14-mile lap, the Model S went into a reduced-power mode to help preserve the battery. Even up to that point, things weren't exactly going swimmingly--Holland described the car to Jalopnik as too heavy (it weighs in around the 4,700 lb mark), too short of mechanical grip and devoid of steering feel.

The GT40 made its debut at Nurburgring, it did not finish, it made it to the 16th lap then its suspension failed, but considering a modern day Tesla can not finish one lap, it is easy to see that no Tesla is a Racing Classic such as the GT40 that went on to win the 24 hours of Le Mans 4 times in a row, think a Tesla will ever achieve that?

The Ford GT 40 was running second place after the 1st lap.

1964 Nurburgring 1000 Kilometers: Survive for One Last Victory - Conceptcarz.com

At the end of the first lap Surtees would be flying in the Ferrari enjoying a lead of nearly 10 seconds after just the first 14 miles around the circuit. Phil Hill would be sitting in 2nd place with the GT40

Look at the lap time of the Ferrari that came in second after the GT40 dropped out, maybe 10 minutes?, the GT40 was beating the Ferrari at the beginning of the race, obviously on fresh tires, the GT40 was running about the same time, considering the Ferrari time is the average for the entire race we can say the GT40 was running 10 minute laps. The Tesla overheated before finishing one lap. Yep, the Tesla is not even in the same class, let alone close to being equal to a car from 1964! How would a Tesla compare against a 1964 Ford GT 40 at Nurburgring? It would not have the juice to finish 2 laps let alone the entire race 1000km race.

Nürburgring 1000 Kilometres 1964 - Race Results - Racing Sports Cars

2nd 83 Parkes / Guichet Ferrari 250 GTO/64 SpA Ferrari SEFAC 43 7:09:01.700 1st GT3.0

 

[elektra]

1966?

Nürburgring 1000 Kilometres 1966 - Race Results - Racing Sports Cars

5th 45 Schlesser / Ligier Ford GT40 Ford France 43 7:03:22.400 1st S+3.0
6th 50 Sutcliffe / Taylor Ford GT40 Red Rose Motors 43 7:05:16.700 2nd S+3.0

 

[elektra]

People will post stupid propaganda about the Tesla over and over and over, everywhere they can, and a lot of idiots will begin to believe it!

 

[Old Rocks]

As stated in other threads, the GT 40 was designed for the track, the Tesla for the street. At present, the battery packs in the EVs autos are not ready for all out racing. However, different case for motorcycles.

Lightning's Electric Superbike takes 2013 Pikes Peak International Hill Climb

Innovation through competition. That is the corporate motto of Lightning Motorcycle Corp., the designers and manufacturers of the Electric Superbike. A production version of the Electric Superbike has won this year's Pikes Peak International Hill Climb among two wheelers (both gas and electric) with a time of 10 minutes and 0.964 seconds. The nearest competitor, racing a Ducati Multistrada, finished with a time nearly 20 seconds slower.

 

[Wyatt earp]

As stated in other threads, the GT 40 was designed for the track, the Tesla for the street. At present, the battery packs in the EVs autos are not ready for all out racing. However, different case for motorcycles.

Lightning's Electric Superbike takes 2013 Pikes Peak International Hill Climb

Innovation through competition. That is the corporate motto of Lightning Motorcycle Corp., the designers and manufacturers of the Electric Superbike. A production version of the Electric Superbike has won this year's Pikes Peak International Hill Climb among two wheelers (both gas and electric) with a time of 10 minutes and 0.964 seconds. The nearest competitor, racing a Ducati Multistrada, finished with a time nearly 20 seconds slower.

. At present, the battery packs in the EVs autos are not ready for all out racing.

Oh God after 120 years do you seriously think they will ever be ready for a 500 mile race?

They miniaturized hydrogen fuell cell tremendously over the past 30 years, but batterys ?

 

[Old Rocks]

And which race car runs one of those miniaturized fuel cells?

 

[elektra]

As stated in other threads, the GT 40 was designed for the track, the Tesla for the street. At present, the battery packs in the EVs autos are not ready for all out racing. However, different case for motorcycles.

Lightning's Electric Superbike takes 2013 Pikes Peak International Hill Climb

Innovation through competition. That is the corporate motto of Lightning Motorcycle Corp., the designers and manufacturers of the Electric Superbike. A production version of the Electric Superbike has won this year's Pikes Peak International Hill Climb among two wheelers (both gas and electric) with a time of 10 minutes and 0.964 seconds. The nearest competitor, racing a Ducati Multistrada, finished with a time nearly 20 seconds slower.

You are the one that compared the Tesla to the GT40! Why did you compare the two in this thread? You are all over the boards trying to defend your ridiculous statements.

The Tesla is not a luxury car, it does not compete with Mercedes Benz, and it will not be remembered as to being like the GT 40, now you want to talk about electric motorcycles?

Lets talk about the piece of crap Tesla, the "charging station wars" in Silicon Valley, or the drive-train replacements they are suffering.

 

[Old Rocks]

Tesla has ample room for five adults in comfort. In fact, the back seat has similiar room to the '48 Ford sedan.

How about a link to support your assertation that the Tesla is having an abnormal amount of driveline failures.

Looks to me like a lot of charging stations, and many more on the way

Interactive Tesla Supercharger Map - TESLARATI.com

 

[Zander]

How much profit has Tesla made?

 

[elektra]

Tesla has ample room for five adults in comfort. In fact, the back seat has similiar room to the '48 Ford sedan.

How about a link to support your assertation that the Tesla is having an abnormal amount of driveline failures.

Looks to me like a lot of charging stations, and many more on the way

Interactive Tesla Supercharger Map - TESLARATI.com

Yes, lots of charging stations, about 2 per car, that is a lot of natural resources, more coal burnt up manufacturing the charging stations, no economy of scale. How great, now not only do you buy a car, but you buy the "gas station", or charging station instead of sharing with your neighbor.

The Obama-Tesla car is novelty for the rich, for the person that has a ton of extra money and wants a toy. Average people need a car that works, all the time, and has adequate range in case they need it in an emergency.

This will make the 5th post in a row you fail at Old Crock, go for six, if you can count that high, it is as easy as pie.

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[Old Rocks]

How much profit has Tesla made?

How much profit did microsoft have at this stage.