Teen accused of stealing 65-cent carton of milk at middle school to face trial

[SassyIrishLass]

Hopefully the poor child will learn the lesson and become a productive citizen...but I have my doubts

Sadly, me too. This mother is not doing him any favors.

My grandfather tells me and our children about "teachable moments" for this kid this a teachable moment, use it to learn

 

[Jackson]

Hopefully the poor child will learn the lesson and become a productive citizen...but I have my doubts

Sadly, me too. This mother is not doing him any favors.

My grandfather tells me and our children about "teachable moments" for this kid this a teachable moment, use it to learn

Sadly, there is no adult here to explain a "teachable moment" to him.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Ryan Turk this week said the incident unfolded while he was trying to get a carton of milk from the lunch line and was accused of stealing. School officials said the student then became disorderly, and Ryan Turk admitted he “yanked away” from a cop.

Do you see what happened first? and what happened next? Bad training instead of finding out what was going on the Milk Police ran in and started finding people guilty and THEN the accused person didnt like it...

I agree! So, what should have student done to deescalate the situation? You are going to find that the student was justified? He's going to be out in the world some day. What should the school and parent have done to prepare the kid for "real life?"

The student isnt a trained officer. The trained professional bears the responsibility of following training. Accusing someone isnt how thats done

 

[bodecea]

The kid is black...he was entitled.

Did you find the article and didnt post it? Because no where does it mention his race

Indeed I did. He's black.

And look at who that matters too. Only you. I dont know the boys race and I think its ridiculous being accused of stealing before being asked any questions doesnt seem to be what trained people do

You're like his mama, you keep avoiding he's charged with disorderly conduct. Actions have consequences, in this case a trial for being an idiot

We will be reading his name in the obit column one day.
Then his 'baby mama' will win the negro equivalent of the 649.

^ Another Alt-Rightie for Drumpf

 

[ClosedCaption]

The parent talks about the milk being free, ignoring the fact that he cut in line, pushed the officer and refused to go to the office.

So you think this is a bigger issue than the school making a 65 cent milk something to call the cops about? Cutting in line? Being ACCUSED of stealing by a...whatever the hell a resource officer is? Escalation? For a carton of milk?

A SRO is a police officer who is stationed in a school. In other words, an officer who is used to working with kids. This is what I do. Some kids WONT DEESCALATE PERIOD because they have not been taught respect by their parents. So, the school gets to do it.

I suppose you think the kid should just get away with this behavior?

We're not talking about some kids actions...I'm talking about being accused of stealing right out the gate and then escalating it to an arrest. Period.

Right, probably not more to the story than the mom is claiming...I'm sure she painted a perfect picture.

The kid and mom are automatically right, and the cops and the school admin are all wrong.

So far the kid is a possible liar and thief and the mom is a possible liar. See how this goes...White people always looking to spread around their judgements to every minority they can find.

 

[Jackson]

In retrospect, this really is a sad story. Sassy hit it on the head. This situation could have been an eye opener for him and possibly demonstrate how to handle situations and save his life later on. With this attitude, he may end up incarcerated or suffer worse consequences.

Every parent has an obligation to their children to establish boundaries and mold their offspring into productive, law abiding adults.

A mother's love is not enough.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Teen accused of stealing 65-cent carton of milk at middle school to face trial

All Ryan Turk wanted was his carton of milk.

The teenager says he had forgotten to grab the drink the first time through the line at the Graham Park Middle School cafeteria, so he headed back. A recipient of free lunches at the Virginia school, Ryan felt he was just doing what he did every day.

But a school resource officer said he spotted the teen cutting in line and accused him of stealing the 65-cent milk. When Ryan didn’t cooperate with a trip to see the principal, authorities say, he was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct and petit larceny. Ryan turned down an offer of non-judicial punishment and, this week, a Prince William County judge set a trial date in November for the Dumfries teen, who is now a freshman in high school.

Sgt. Jonathan Perok, a Prince William police spokesman, said the middle schooler “leaned back and pushed against the officer,” and then as the pair approached the principal, the teen tried to “push past the officer to get away.”

Wasn't able to link for some reason..computer not cooperating.

When I started reading this story, I thought of the kid who was pulled over for a traffic offense and he failed to cooperate with the police officer. He refused to show his license and registration. The situation escalated and the kid wound up dead. He was white.

Is it that hard that parents teach their children to respect officers and follow the directions given to them?

This article glosses over the real problem. The parent talks about the milk being free, ignoring the fact that he cut in line, pushed the officer and refused to go to the office. That didn't matter to her. Will he end up incarcerated later in life. If he doesn't change, you bet.

The mother wanted the trial instead of facing punishment from the school for disorderly conduct.

You nailed it, the problem for this kid was not stealing milk, it was not being cooperative with those in authority.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

The parent talks about the milk being free, ignoring the fact that he cut in line, pushed the officer and refused to go to the office.

So you think this is a bigger issue than the school making a 65 cent milk something to call the cops about? Cutting in line? Being ACCUSED of stealing by a...whatever the hell a resource officer is? Escalation? For a carton of milk?

If the student had just got in line and explained to the lunch person he had forgotten to get his milk, he wouldn't have a trial date. Is that so hard?

The kid is black...he was entitled.

Did you find the article and didnt post it? Because no where does it mention his race

Ahh, so you are unable to comment on the story without first knowing the kids race.....very telling.....very telling.

 

[Jackson]

The parent talks about the milk being free, ignoring the fact that he cut in line, pushed the officer and refused to go to the office.

So you think this is a bigger issue than the school making a 65 cent milk something to call the cops about? Cutting in line? Being ACCUSED of stealing by a...whatever the hell a resource officer is? Escalation? For a carton of milk?

A SRO is a police officer who is stationed in a school. In other words, an officer who is used to working with kids. This is what I do. Some kids WONT DEESCALATE PERIOD because they have not been taught respect by their parents. So, the school gets to do it.

I suppose you think the kid should just get away with this behavior?

We're not talking about some kids actions...I'm talking about being accused of stealing right out the gate and then escalating it to an arrest. Period.

Right, probably not more to the story than the mom is claiming...I'm sure she painted a perfect picture.

The kid and mom are automatically right, and the cops and the school admin are all wrong.

So far the kid is a possible liar and thief and the mom is a possible liar. See how this goes...White people always looking to spread around their judgements to every minority they can find.

Where did I use my knowledge of him being black lead me to a judgment? I told you before I even knew about his race I thought of that white snot that ended up dead when he refused to follow directions from a police officer.

 

[Jackson]

Ryan Turk this week said the incident unfolded while he was trying to get a carton of milk from the lunch line and was accused of stealing. School officials said the student then became disorderly, and Ryan Turk admitted he “yanked away” from a cop.

Do you see what happened first? and what happened next? Bad training instead of finding out what was going on the Milk Police ran in and started finding people guilty and THEN the accused person didnt like it...

I agree! So, what should have student done to deescalate the situation? You are going to find that the student was justified? He's going to be out in the world some day. What should the school and parent have done to prepare the kid for "real life?"

The student isnt a trained officer. The trained professional bears the responsibility of following training. Accusing someone isnt how thats done

And he did follow protocol. He was taking the kid to the office when he didn't follow directions. That's when the student chose his course of action...push the officer and flee. That's where it gets dicey for the kid. And mom didn't help by choosing a trial for his disobedience.

 

[ClosedCaption]

In retrospect, this really is a sad story. Sassy hit it on the head. This situation could have been an eye opener for him and possibly demonstrate how to handle situations and save his life later on. With this attitude, he may end up incarcerated or suffer worse consequences.

Every parent has an obligation to their children to establish boundaries and mold their offspring into productive, law abiding adults.

A mother's love is not enough.

Haha no one likes being accused of being a thief. There was a kid who shot his dad and went to a school and shot 3 more people including 2 kids.

Not once did you bring up the parents being at fault. Or respect or any of that shit. Do you want to know why? The kid looks like this

Maybe you missed that article. Maybe you missed it. Teen shoots Dad dead, drives to Elementary sch. Shoots 2 more

 

[ClosedCaption]

So you think this is a bigger issue than the school making a 65 cent milk something to call the cops about? Cutting in line? Being ACCUSED of stealing by a...whatever the hell a resource officer is? Escalation? For a carton of milk?

A SRO is a police officer who is stationed in a school. In other words, an officer who is used to working with kids. This is what I do. Some kids WONT DEESCALATE PERIOD because they have not been taught respect by their parents. So, the school gets to do it.

I suppose you think the kid should just get away with this behavior?

We're not talking about some kids actions...I'm talking about being accused of stealing right out the gate and then escalating it to an arrest. Period.

Right, probably not more to the story than the mom is claiming...I'm sure she painted a perfect picture.

The kid and mom are automatically right, and the cops and the school admin are all wrong.

So far the kid is a possible liar and thief and the mom is a possible liar. See how this goes...White people always looking to spread around their judgements to every minority they can find.

Where did I use my knowledge of him being black lead me to a judgment? I told you before I even knew about his race I thought of that white snot that ended up dead when he refused to follow directions from a police officer.

I said "white people always looking to spread around their judgements" you thought it was a white kid? Cool. Do white parents face the judge when their kids get out of line? Do you bring them up at all?

 

[Jackson]

In retrospect, this really is a sad story. Sassy hit it on the head. This situation could have been an eye opener for him and possibly demonstrate how to handle situations and save his life later on. With this attitude, he may end up incarcerated or suffer worse consequences.

Every parent has an obligation to their children to establish boundaries and mold their offspring into productive, law abiding adults.

A mother's love is not enough.

Haha no one likes being accused of being a thief. There was a kid who shot his dad and went to a school and shot 3 more people including 2 kids.

Not once did you bring up the parents being at fault. Or respect or any of that shit. Do you want to know why? The kid looks like this

Maybe you missed that article. Maybe you missed it. Teen shoots Dad dead, drives to Elementary sch. Shoots 2 more

My gosh, CC! I didn't talk about that case at all. In that case the student went after a student with an ax and was expelled from school. If I recall, there was domestic abuse on the part of the father. Of course, the parents are highly responsible for this boys actions! If I had a child go after another with an ax, he would be in daily counseling and never would there be a gun in the house.

 

[ClosedCaption]

In retrospect, this really is a sad story. Sassy hit it on the head. This situation could have been an eye opener for him and possibly demonstrate how to handle situations and save his life later on. With this attitude, he may end up incarcerated or suffer worse consequences.

Every parent has an obligation to their children to establish boundaries and mold their offspring into productive, law abiding adults.

A mother's love is not enough.

Haha no one likes being accused of being a thief. There was a kid who shot his dad and went to a school and shot 3 more people including 2 kids.

Not once did you bring up the parents being at fault. Or respect or any of that shit. Do you want to know why? The kid looks like this

Maybe you missed that article. Maybe you missed it. Teen shoots Dad dead, drives to Elementary sch. Shoots 2 more

My gosh, CC! I didn't talk about that case at all. In that case the student went after a student with an ax and was expelled from school. If I recall, there was domestic abuse on the part of the father. Of course, the parents are highly responsible for this boys actions! If I had a child go after another with an ax, he would be in daily counseling and never would there be a gun in the house.

I noticed you missed it. They had guns in the house and let them play with them.

My goodness, you missed it? But you found the milk story important? Huh...

 

[Jackson]

A SRO is a police officer who is stationed in a school. In other words, an officer who is used to working with kids. This is what I do. Some kids WONT DEESCALATE PERIOD because they have not been taught respect by their parents. So, the school gets to do it.

I suppose you think the kid should just get away with this behavior?

We're not talking about some kids actions...I'm talking about being accused of stealing right out the gate and then escalating it to an arrest. Period.

Right, probably not more to the story than the mom is claiming...I'm sure she painted a perfect picture.

The kid and mom are automatically right, and the cops and the school admin are all wrong.

So far the kid is a possible liar and thief and the mom is a possible liar. See how this goes...White people always looking to spread around their judgements to every minority they can find.

Where did I use my knowledge of him being black lead me to a judgment? I told you before I even knew about his race I thought of that white snot that ended up dead when he refused to follow directions from a police officer.

I said "white people always looking to spread around their judgements" you thought it was a white kid? Cool. Do white parents face the judge when their kids get out of line? Do you bring them up at all?

I would if there was an article about it.

Look, I am against ANYONE who places their child above the rules. When teaching elementary students remedial reading at a nearby university, I had one parent who would repeatedly come in and drag their kid out after 15 minutes and take him to his TENNIS LESSONS! After a while, I would just look at the parent, and say, "Really? That is your priority?" Do I need to mention his race? Blonde, blue eyes and lily white.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

The parent talks about the milk being free, ignoring the fact that he cut in line, pushed the officer and refused to go to the office.

So you think this is a bigger issue than the school making a 65 cent milk something to call the cops about? Cutting in line? Being ACCUSED of stealing by a...whatever the hell a resource officer is? Escalation? For a carton of milk?

If the student had just got in line and explained to the lunch person he had forgotten to get his milk, he wouldn't have a trial date. Is that so hard?

I'm not saying doing something different is hard but why do you place more responsibility on a child than a trained officer who didnt have accuse anyone of anything to escalate the situation? We're talking about Milk here dude

Typical liberal response, " I feel bad for him so let's just let it slide, it's only 65 cents". Then you let a perfect teaching moment pass and wonder why the kid is incarcerated in his 20s.

 

[JoeMoma]

Ryan Turk this week said the incident unfolded while he was trying to get a carton of milk from the lunch line and was accused of stealing. School officials said the student then became disorderly, and Ryan Turk admitted he “yanked away” from a cop.

Do you see what happened first? and what happened next? Bad training instead of finding out what was going on the Milk Police ran in and started finding people guilty and THEN the accused person didnt like it...

I agree! So, what should have student done to deescalate the situation? You are going to find that the student was justified? He's going to be out in the world some day. What should the school and parent have done to prepare the kid for "real life?"

The student isnt a trained officer. The trained professional bears the responsibility of following training. Accusing someone isnt how thats done

And he did follow protocol. He was taking the kid to the office when he didn't follow directions. That's when the student chose his course of action...push the officer and flee. That's where it gets dicey for the kid. And mom didn't help by choosing a trial for his disobedience.

Had the kid gone to the office and explained that the forgot his milk the first time through, he probably would have been given a benefit of a doubt and instructions to handle the situation in the future. It was the attitude and not obey the officer and principal that got the kid in trouble.

 

[Jackson]

CC, I wish to apologize for a comment I used:

What ever the number was that pushed an officer and tried to get away when going to the office. You are not much better than that ineffective mother.

BBM

We have had a good discussion and that wasn't warranted. Sorry.

 

[Jackson]

In retrospect, this really is a sad story. Sassy hit it on the head. This situation could have been an eye opener for him and possibly demonstrate how to handle situations and save his life later on. With this attitude, he may end up incarcerated or suffer worse consequences.

Every parent has an obligation to their children to establish boundaries and mold their offspring into productive, law abiding adults.

A mother's love is not enough.

Haha no one likes being accused of being a thief. There was a kid who shot his dad and went to a school and shot 3 more people including 2 kids.

Not once did you bring up the parents being at fault. Or respect or any of that shit. Do you want to know why? The kid looks like this

Maybe you missed that article. Maybe you missed it. Teen shoots Dad dead, drives to Elementary sch. Shoots 2 more

My gosh, CC! I didn't talk about that case at all. In that case the student went after a student with an ax and was expelled from school. If I recall, there was domestic abuse on the part of the father. Of course, the parents are highly responsible for this boys actions! If I had a child go after another with an ax, he would be in daily counseling and never would there be a gun in the house.

I noticed you missed it. They had guns in the house and let them play with them.

My goodness, you missed it? But you found the milk story important? Huh...

I didn't miss it. I did this article due to its controversy.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

The kid needs to learn at an early age that even if he's not doing anything wrong, how he acts when accused is crucial. It could save his life some day. This isn't just about minorities (assuming this kid is even a minority). Shit will happen in life, fair or not, and kids needs to learn to properly deal with the situation.

I agree, but only to a certain extent. If a person is left with no other option, they must stand up for themselves or they will forever be everyone else's floor mat to walk all over.

God bless you and the boy always!!!!

Holly