So lets just hear and see the Israel side of things,

[Phoenall]

You keep saying this as if the violence only started in 1967, when in actuality the violence started in 1917 when the arab muslims saw they were to lose 1% of Ottoman empire land to their mortal enemies the Jews. So what caused the violence before the occupation, can you give a reply or are you stuck in a rut that wont allow you to go back before 1967.

There is a big difference between criticising Israel and racially attacking the Jews with LIES and propaganda.

The cause of all the violence today, is the occupation. That has to end. That is the first step.

The violence did not suddenly start in 1967 as you are claiming it has been going on for 1400 years. The occupation is just the latest excuse in a long line of excuses. Now what caused the violence before the occupation in 1967 ? Are you scared to admit that you are wrong

All of that violence came from refugees who got the boot from Israel in 1948.

That might have something to do with it.

So what caused the violence in the years prior to 1948, and don't say there wasn't any as the evidence has been produced proving there was.

 

[Kondor3]

...All of that violence came from refugees who got the boot from Israel in 1948. That might have something to do with it.

Perhaps with a one-sided media we won't have to put up with as much crybaby noise from the descendants of the Jackrabbits of 1948...

"He who pees his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day." - ode to the Palestinians of 1948 - Kondor3

 

[Phoenall]

You don't know what you are talking about once again, this is common practise around the world to bring a halt to racism and incitement to violence. It is already law in many parts of Europe that you cant post anti semitic videos or propaganda and not face arrest, the internet companies face being taken to court and forced into disclosing all details of the originating computer to the police so they can take action.


So you lose again in your attempts at inciting racial and religious hatred and intolerance on this board. Can the mods remove this post as it is a blatant act of incitement to violence

Criticizing Israel has nothing to do with anti-Semitism.

There is only one cause of all the violence............the occupation.

Palestinian's are sick of being occupied! All they want, is the same freedoms everyone else enjoys.

You keep saying this as if the violence only started in 1967, when in actuality the violence started in 1917 when the arab muslims saw they were to lose 1% of Ottoman empire land to their mortal enemies the Jews. So what caused the violence before the occupation, can you give a reply or are you stuck in a rut that wont allow you to go back before 1967.

There is a big difference between criticising Israel and racially attacking the Jews with LIES and propaganda.

when the arab muslims saw they were to lose 1% of Ottoman empire land​

Actually it was 100% of the land under their feet.

No it was actually less than 1% of the Ottoman land that was lost to the Jews not 100% as you are trying to claim. And they were never sovereign rulers for the previous 800 years to the 1917 surrender, the LoN could have taken full control and we would not have the problems we face today if they had

I didn't say that.

You did when you implied that they owned 100% of the ottoman lands

 

[P F Tinmore]

You keep saying this as if the violence only started in 1967, when in actuality the violence started in 1917 when the arab muslims saw they were to lose 1% of Ottoman empire land to their mortal enemies the Jews. So what caused the violence before the occupation, can you give a reply or are you stuck in a rut that wont allow you to go back before 1967.

There is a big difference between criticising Israel and racially attacking the Jews with LIES and propaganda.

The cause of all the violence today, is the occupation. That has to end. That is the first step.

The violence did not suddenly start in 1967 as you are claiming it has been going on for 1400 years. The occupation is just the latest excuse in a long line of excuses. Now what caused the violence before the occupation in 1967 ? Are you scared to admit that you are wrong

All of that violence came from refugees who got the boot from Israel in 1948.

That might have something to do with it.

So what caused the violence in the years prior to 1948, and don't say there wasn't any as the evidence has been produced proving there was.

That is true. The violence was triggered by the Zionist's colonial project.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Criticizing Israel has nothing to do with anti-Semitism.

There is only one cause of all the violence............the occupation.

Palestinian's are sick of being occupied! All they want, is the same freedoms everyone else enjoys.

You keep saying this as if the violence only started in 1967, when in actuality the violence started in 1917 when the arab muslims saw they were to lose 1% of Ottoman empire land to their mortal enemies the Jews. So what caused the violence before the occupation, can you give a reply or are you stuck in a rut that wont allow you to go back before 1967.

There is a big difference between criticising Israel and racially attacking the Jews with LIES and propaganda.

when the arab muslims saw they were to lose 1% of Ottoman empire land​

Actually it was 100% of the land under their feet.

No it was actually less than 1% of the Ottoman land that was lost to the Jews not 100% as you are trying to claim. And they were never sovereign rulers for the previous 800 years to the 1917 surrender, the LoN could have taken full control and we would not have the problems we face today if they had

I didn't say that.

You did when you implied that they owned 100% of the ottoman lands

I didn't say that.

 

[Phoenall]

You keep saying this as if the violence only started in 1967, when in actuality the violence started in 1917 when the arab muslims saw they were to lose 1% of Ottoman empire land to their mortal enemies the Jews. So what caused the violence before the occupation, can you give a reply or are you stuck in a rut that wont allow you to go back before 1967.

There is a big difference between criticising Israel and racially attacking the Jews with LIES and propaganda.

when the arab muslims saw they were to lose 1% of Ottoman empire land​

Actually it was 100% of the land under their feet.

No it was actually less than 1% of the Ottoman land that was lost to the Jews not 100% as you are trying to claim. And they were never sovereign rulers for the previous 800 years to the 1917 surrender, the LoN could have taken full control and we would not have the problems we face today if they had

I didn't say that.

You did when you implied that they owned 100% of the ottoman lands

I didn't say that.

Your exact words were


Actually it was 100% of the land under their feet.[/QUOTE]

So implying that they lost all of the Ottoman land to the Jews. In fact they lost nothing as they did not own it after losing the war in 1917

 

[Billo_Really]

Zionism is a fundamental part of Judaism, which is why the Jews say "Next year in Jerusalem"

What is a good Jew, can most appropriately be defined as
..................NOT YOU!

This is a good Jew. It's what a good Jew thinks. It's what a good Jew say's. And it's what a good Jew does. Setting the record straight between Judaism and Zionism.

To our Palestinian Neighbors – Peace be upon you and G-d's mercy and blessings be upon you

With the founding of the State of Israel came the widespread misconception that there is a connection between nationalistic Zionism and the Jewish People. As the torch-bearers of uncompromised Jewish heritage and tradition, we find it opportune to reach out to you and clarify the following matters.

A. As one of the foundations of Judaism, Jews are obliged to be loyal to the governments under which they find shelter, and to live peacefully with their neighbors in every country where they may be dispersed.

The Torah teaches us to live peacefully, “The ways of the Torah are pleasant and all its paths [call for] peace.” Accordingly, for close to two thousand years, Jews have lived this way in every country in the Diaspora.

B. Therefore, the relationship between the Arab and Jewish nations has always been one of peace and fraternity; friendship reigned between both nations at all times. In fact, for hundreds of years, hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in almost every Arab country with mutual respect and honor.

Even the Jews who continued to reside in the Holy Land for generations lived with friendship and brotherliness with the Palestinians. They engaged in business together, they helped each other, and they even attended each other’s celebrations.

C. About one hundred years ago, the idea of Zionism was tragically conceived. Its malicious intent: to turn authentic Torah Judaism into a new-fangled culture of nationalism and rebellion, directly contradicting the Torah. Immediately upon its founding, Jewish leaders and rabbis protested forcefully against its ideas.

D. With incredible chutzpah, Zionists added insult to injury by effectively “stealing” the identity of the Jewish People. They continually declared themselves as representatives of the Jewish Nation, when the opposite is true. Judaism is a religion which is guided by the Torah, as opposed to Zionism which is a political movement that contradicts the Torah.

Leaders and/or supporters of Zionism do not represent Judaism and/or the Jewish People under any circumstance.

E. Zionism is the greatest tragedy that has struck the Jewish People. We have suffered most from Zionism because it exploits innocent Jews as cannon-fodder to advance its agendas. Zionist groups and organizations even neglected to rescue Jews during the Holocaust in their hopes of promoting the country’s independence through increased Jewish holocaust fatalities.

Unfortunately, the confusion between “Judaism” and “Zionism” resulted in the loss of lives and livelihoods of so many Jews who had prospered in Arabic countries for generations. And the Holy Land, where Jews and Arabs had lived so peacefully that they would babysit each other's children, has turned into a minefield of hatred and conflict.​

Zionists are a cancer to this planet and do nothing but spread hate. One doesn't have to look any further than the posts of the pro-Israeli crowd in this very forum.

 

[Phoenall]

Zionism is a fundamental part of Judaism, which is why the Jews say "Next year in Jerusalem"

What is a good Jew, can most appropriately be defined as
..................NOT YOU!

This is a good Jew. It's what a good Jew thinks. It's what a good Jew say's. And it's what a good Jew does. Setting the record straight between Judaism and Zionism.

To our Palestinian Neighbors – Peace be upon you and G-d's mercy and blessings be upon you

With the founding of the State of Israel came the widespread misconception that there is a connection between nationalistic Zionism and the Jewish People. As the torch-bearers of uncompromised Jewish heritage and tradition, we find it opportune to reach out to you and clarify the following matters.

A. As one of the foundations of Judaism, Jews are obliged to be loyal to the governments under which they find shelter, and to live peacefully with their neighbors in every country where they may be dispersed.

The Torah teaches us to live peacefully, “The ways of the Torah are pleasant and all its paths [call for] peace.” Accordingly, for close to two thousand years, Jews have lived this way in every country in the Diaspora.

B. Therefore, the relationship between the Arab and Jewish nations has always been one of peace and fraternity; friendship reigned between both nations at all times. In fact, for hundreds of years, hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in almost every Arab country with mutual respect and honor.

Even the Jews who continued to reside in the Holy Land for generations lived with friendship and brotherliness with the Palestinians. They engaged in business together, they helped each other, and they even attended each other’s celebrations.

C. About one hundred years ago, the idea of Zionism was tragically conceived. Its malicious intent: to turn authentic Torah Judaism into a new-fangled culture of nationalism and rebellion, directly contradicting the Torah. Immediately upon its founding, Jewish leaders and rabbis protested forcefully against its ideas.

D. With incredible chutzpah, Zionists added insult to injury by effectively “stealing” the identity of the Jewish People. They continually declared themselves as representatives of the Jewish Nation, when the opposite is true. Judaism is a religion which is guided by the Torah, as opposed to Zionism which is a political movement that contradicts the Torah.

Leaders and/or supporters of Zionism do not represent Judaism and/or the Jewish People under any circumstance.

E. Zionism is the greatest tragedy that has struck the Jewish People. We have suffered most from Zionism because it exploits innocent Jews as cannon-fodder to advance its agendas. Zionist groups and organizations even neglected to rescue Jews during the Holocaust in their hopes of promoting the country’s independence through increased Jewish holocaust fatalities.

Unfortunately, the confusion between “Judaism” and “Zionism” resulted in the loss of lives and livelihoods of so many Jews who had prospered in Arabic countries for generations. And the Holy Land, where Jews and Arabs had lived so peacefully that they would babysit each other's children, has turned into a minefield of hatred and conflict.​

Zionists are a cancer to this planet and do nothing but spread hate. One doesn't have to look any further than the posts of the pro-Israeli crowd in this very forum.

Tell you what billy boy why don't you look at the true torah jews end times and see just what they have in store for you and all the other non true torah jews.

The only cancer is that of rabid Nazi Jew hatred from the likes of you who should be arrested for inciting violence and promoting terrorism. Then the muslims would no longer have stooges to spread their hatred would they.

 

[docmauser1]

when the arab muslims saw they were to lose 1% of Ottoman empire land​

Actually it was 100% of the land under their feet.

So, jews now have Turkey. Kewwl. Does that schmuck Erdogan know that yet?

 

[docmauser1]

Palestinian's are sick of being occupied!

Let'em change their occupation then.

 

[Billo_Really]

Let'em change their occupation then.

Why should they have to change?

Why don't you pick a different word?

 

[docmauser1]

Let'em change their occupation then.

Why should they have to change? Why don't you pick a different word?

Well, it is their occupation, after all, isn't it?

 

[Phoenall]

Let'em change their occupation then.

Why should they have to change?

Why don't you pick a different word?

Why should'tn they seeing as they cause the violence every time.

 

[Lipush]

One must always get both sides of a story to really get an understanding, and well Israel wants to censor the Palestinian side.

.

Wow, talk about hypocrisy, you Anti-Zionists are all in favor of boycotting us (which is the classic example of freedom of expression, as nothing says expression better than the freedom of self-creating) worshipping anyone who's against us, basically tell us that we make up things when we inform the world of terror committed against us.... you're the ones to lecture us about listening to both sides? what hypocrites.

 

[Penelope]

One must always get both sides of a story to really get an understanding, and well Israel wants to censor the Palestinian side.

.

Wow, talk about hypocrisy, you Anti-Zionists are all in favor of boycotting us (which is the classic example of freedom of expression, as nothing says expression better than the freedom of self-creating) worshipping anyone who's against us, basically tell us that we make up things when we inform the world of terror committed against us.... you're the ones to lecture us about listening to both sides? what hypocrites.

I always read both sides. No one is picking sides. We deserved to hear and read both sides. I will admit , I do not believe the maj or Israel news, just from past exp, they make great headlines and when you read the article it contradicts the headline, but they know people mainly just read headlines. I am not saying all of Palestinian news is not exaggerated, but somehow I believe it more, since they are the underdogs.

 

[theliq]

Israel meets with Google and YouTube to discuss censoring Palestinian videos

Wednesday, 25 November 2015 13:29

Israel’s Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely has met with representatives of YouTube and Google to discuss ways to cooperate in what she calls the fight against “inciting violence and terrorism”.

Israel’s Maariv newspaper reported yesterday that Hotovely agreed to work with Google and YouTube in order to establish a joint working mechanism to monitor and prevent the publication of “inflammatory material” originating in the Palestinian terriroties.

Since the latest escalation of violence between Palestinians and Israeli security services that erupted at the beginning of October, many people have been sharing videos depicting Israeli aggression towards Palestinians to highlight the Palestinian perspective of the conflict. London-based Arab newspaper Al-Araby Al-Jadeed has expressed concerns that the meetings suggest moves towards censoring Palestinian material on the part of the Israeli state.

Israel meets with Google and YouTube to discuss censoring Palestinian videos

So this is how the Jew controlled media works, they censor whoever is anti them. This is how freedom of speech is censored by the Jews. The censor their war crimes. America , hang on to your voice, as this is the wave of the future, we can see it play out on the News and in papers now. I want to see the Palestinian videos, but some day I guess they will just be "no more".

It's just the thin edge of the Wedge, for of Media Repression.........Google applies to everyone,and should apply to everyone......it's called Freedom of Speech......If Israel get their way then Google should close down.....and back to the Dark Ages,which some would like no doubt.steve

 

[theliq]

One must always get both sides of a story to really get an understanding, and well Israel wants to censor the Palestinian side.

.

Wow, talk about hypocrisy, you Anti-Zionists are all in favor of boycotting us (which is the classic example of freedom of expression, as nothing says expression better than the freedom of self-creating) worshipping anyone who's against us, basically tell us that we make up things when we inform the world of terror committed against us.... you're the ones to lecture us about listening to both sides? what hypocrites.

I dunno Lips,life is a two way street and normally evens itself out..............I think Israel get a lot of +'s in the media....steve

 

[theliq]

Israel meets with Google and YouTube to discuss censoring Palestinian videos

Wednesday, 25 November 2015 13:29

Israel’s Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely has met with representatives of YouTube and Google to discuss ways to cooperate in what she calls the fight against “inciting violence and terrorism”.

Israel’s Maariv newspaper reported yesterday that Hotovely agreed to work with Google and YouTube in order to establish a joint working mechanism to monitor and prevent the publication of “inflammatory material” originating in the Palestinian terriroties.

Since the latest escalation of violence between Palestinians and Israeli security services that erupted at the beginning of October, many people have been sharing videos depicting Israeli aggression towards Palestinians to highlight the Palestinian perspective of the conflict. London-based Arab newspaper Al-Araby Al-Jadeed has expressed concerns that the meetings suggest moves towards censoring Palestinian material on the part of the Israeli state.

Israel meets with Google and YouTube to discuss censoring Palestinian videos

So this is how the Jew controlled media works, they censor whoever is anti them. This is how freedom of speech is censored by the Jews. The censor their war crimes. America , hang on to your voice, as this is the wave of the future, we can see it play out on the News and in papers now. I want to see the Palestinian videos, but some day I guess they will just be "no more".

You don't know what you are talking about once again, this is common practise around the world to bring a halt to racism and incitement to violence. It is already law in many parts of Europe that you cant post anti semitic videos or propaganda and not face arrest, the internet companies face being taken to court and forced into disclosing all details of the originating computer to the police so they can take action.


So you lose again in your attempts at inciting racial and religious hatred and intolerance on this board. Can the mods remove this post as it is a blatant act of incitement to violence

It wasn't Phoe,just the start of an informative threat where Penny only exposed the facts.........Your continuum of "You Lose Again"is in itself a verbal threat.........to requests the Moderators to remove the thread,is your attempt at censorship....it is Banal at best and the very thing the Excellent Moderators are trying to stamp OUT.

You are being Inflammatory,Myopic and Silly...Cut the Shit....steve

 

[Phoenall]

Israel meets with Google and YouTube to discuss censoring Palestinian videos

Wednesday, 25 November 2015 13:29

Israel’s Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely has met with representatives of YouTube and Google to discuss ways to cooperate in what she calls the fight against “inciting violence and terrorism”.

Israel’s Maariv newspaper reported yesterday that Hotovely agreed to work with Google and YouTube in order to establish a joint working mechanism to monitor and prevent the publication of “inflammatory material” originating in the Palestinian terriroties.

Since the latest escalation of violence between Palestinians and Israeli security services that erupted at the beginning of October, many people have been sharing videos depicting Israeli aggression towards Palestinians to highlight the Palestinian perspective of the conflict. London-based Arab newspaper Al-Araby Al-Jadeed has expressed concerns that the meetings suggest moves towards censoring Palestinian material on the part of the Israeli state.

Israel meets with Google and YouTube to discuss censoring Palestinian videos

So this is how the Jew controlled media works, they censor whoever is anti them. This is how freedom of speech is censored by the Jews. The censor their war crimes. America , hang on to your voice, as this is the wave of the future, we can see it play out on the News and in papers now. I want to see the Palestinian videos, but some day I guess they will just be "no more".

It's just the thin edge of the Wedge, for of Media Repression.........Google applies to everyone,and should apply to everyone......it's called Freedom of Speech......If Israel get their way then Google should close down.....and back to the Dark Ages,which some would like no doubt.steve

And freedom of speech is a complex thing as you cant shout fire in a theatre, bomb on a plane or were sinking on a boat. That is not freedom of speech, freedom of speech comes with responsibilities not to cause alarm. A good example of freedom of speech is the film Fitna that muslims want banned because it uses Islamic sources for its evidence, that is censorship of free speech. This is what you want to see done to Israel, its right to free speech censored because it shows the truth

 

[Phoenall]

Israel meets with Google and YouTube to discuss censoring Palestinian videos

Wednesday, 25 November 2015 13:29

Israel’s Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely has met with representatives of YouTube and Google to discuss ways to cooperate in what she calls the fight against “inciting violence and terrorism”.

Israel’s Maariv newspaper reported yesterday that Hotovely agreed to work with Google and YouTube in order to establish a joint working mechanism to monitor and prevent the publication of “inflammatory material” originating in the Palestinian terriroties.

Since the latest escalation of violence between Palestinians and Israeli security services that erupted at the beginning of October, many people have been sharing videos depicting Israeli aggression towards Palestinians to highlight the Palestinian perspective of the conflict. London-based Arab newspaper Al-Araby Al-Jadeed has expressed concerns that the meetings suggest moves towards censoring Palestinian material on the part of the Israeli state.

Israel meets with Google and YouTube to discuss censoring Palestinian videos

So this is how the Jew controlled media works, they censor whoever is anti them. This is how freedom of speech is censored by the Jews. The censor their war crimes. America , hang on to your voice, as this is the wave of the future, we can see it play out on the News and in papers now. I want to see the Palestinian videos, but some day I guess they will just be "no more".

You don't know what you are talking about once again, this is common practise around the world to bring a halt to racism and incitement to violence. It is already law in many parts of Europe that you cant post anti semitic videos or propaganda and not face arrest, the internet companies face being taken to court and forced into disclosing all details of the originating computer to the police so they can take action.


So you lose again in your attempts at inciting racial and religious hatred and intolerance on this board. Can the mods remove this post as it is a blatant act of incitement to violence

It wasn't Phoe,just the start of an informative threat where Penny only exposed the facts.........Your continuum of "You Lose Again"is in itself a verbal threat.........to requests the Moderators to remove the thread,is your attempt at censorship....it is Banal at best and the very thing the Excellent Moderators are trying to stamp OUT.

You are being Inflammatory,Myopic and Silly...Cut the Shit....steve

It is censorship of incitement to violence, lies and propaganda, which the Palestinians have promised they will not do. So if it take this action to highlight the Palestinians breaches of the UN charter then so be it, and the world will see that they cant be trusted wont they. And this will also apply to you and the rest of team Palestine by association, so it is in your best interests to side with Israel on this.