rylah
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I use sources to back up what I argue, because that is generally the proper thing to do. You certainly used the Hamas charter as a frequent source. I do not rely on one liners unless I am being deliberately pissy, and I genuinely avoid that with you a few others because though ?I don’t agree, I respect your views.I am not depending on one liners. Are you?Lklkl
"Jews share common culture based in Judiasm, they are also a diverse population from around the world who share as much if not more in some cases with those cultures than with each other."
Jew from Yemen (1st temple exiled community) :
Ashkenazi Jew (2n'd Temple excile):
Jew from Yemen:
Ashkenazi Jew :
Jews in Yemen:
Rabbi Kook (Lithuanian Community 1st chief Ashknaz Rabbi and Zionist visionary)
Ashkenaz (Rabbi Rosenboim):
Rabbi Amnon Yitzhak (Yemeni community):
Rabbi Landoy Zt"l (Polish community)
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Zt'l (Babylon community Chief Mizrahi Rabbi of Israel)
Hofetz Haim Zt"l (Ashknaz sage)
Rabbi Mordechai Elyahu Zt"l (Babylon, Chief Mizrahi Rabbi of Israel)
Shlomo Weizman (Ashknaz)
Tal Barzilay (Morocco)
When Jews from Yemen came to Israel they wore the exact same traditional garbs, same colors even.
Their pronunciation of Hebrew was 85% similar (2 letters pronounced only slightly different). They wore the same sidelocks that made them different from any other nation. And their construction of the scroll was exactly similar. These were 2 furthest communities from their homeland Eretz Yisrael, north Europe and south Arabia, and yet they were strikingly similar.
Now to suggest they had more in common with the locals is to erase the Holocaust and 2000 years of our indescribable genocide. We tried to be like them once in Germany, to the fullest extent - the result is known, yet You suggest we had more in common with Germans than with fellow Jews who were persecuted for their striking difference in every corner of the earth. GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR HEART AND SENSES FAST!
You can search and find pictures showing similarities and select those. But do a search for Jews around the world and along with similarities you see many differences. Search for Jewish cuisine around the world..again, much variety along with common customs.
My question is two:
Why is this a bad thing? It isnt. It is wealth.
And what I am seeing is a reflexive reaction to anything that might imply Judaism is not the same around the world because that feeds into the anti Semitic rhetoric that tries to claim Judaism is not a distinct culture. Diversity within a culture is not absence of a culture.
And yet you can not give the same consideration to Palestinian identity which was forged in conflict and loss...sound familiar ?
Diversity?
Is it like Iraqi Jews eating a lamb head on Passover while Ashkenazi eat a fish head because Europe was poor at the time?
You have zero knowledge on the issue.
Or maybe it's that Yemeni and Ashknaz Jews put their sidelocks and tzitzit outside while Sephardic hide it behind the ears and inside pants because of Spanish inquisition?
If You cared to get beyond Your one liners, and actually read some about a nation with 3500 years of unique culture, that was ALWAYS DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE You'd find out how astonishingly small and irrelevant are Your points..
Read again whatYou've just written.
My posts are detailed and extensive, and I don't need to links for that volume, I know my stuff.
On the other hand You base Your whole argument on short assumptions and look for articles to back it up later.
Here's an idea- Jews are people of literacy, READ SOME ORIGINALS before even touching on the subject, I can write a website claiming turtles are from mars and some idiot will pick it up, doesn't take too much brain power.
Here is an idea. Apply the same standards and consideration you demand for Jews, to what constitutes a people to the Palestinians instead of going along with the “Arab Moslems” and “European Invaders” style of categorization.
When Jews have a 2nd country....not 34th one.
We can apply same standards.
Meantime the Caliphate wants to eat the little we have, ending up with 3 Arab states out of territory that was alloted for our sovereignty.
No equivalence at all. Give us Medina back and we'll consider it a start of good negotiations, mkay?