Can anyone give a Lucid Explanation of Bragg's alleged "another crime?"

[SweetSue92]

All this trial is for is to keep Trump from campaigning in person....that's it. That's all there is to it.

However, it's not working.

It boils down to "get out the vote" campaigns and Biden is losing popular support by the minute.
There's literally no one working Biden's campaign machine. All have abandoned ship.

When the union members left the Democratic party....it was time to concede for Biden. But his followers are still put out...without respect for the office or the person in it.

Well he's got about what, three dozen people here who still go to bat for him consistently. Winning!

 

[beautress]

As most of you know, that "another crime" is what Bragg used to turn a misdemeanor past its statute of limitations into a felony with more time to prosecute.



Here are a couple of stories from the "Newpaper of Record" and I don't see this "another crime." Do you?

‘Criminal Conspiracy’ Alleged as Jury Starts Hearing Trump Trial

Court adjourned for the day after opening statements from both sides and the start of testimony from the longtime publisher of The National Enquirer. A lawyer for Donald Trump told jurors the former president did nothing illegal.

www.nytimes.com

A prosecutor, Matthew Colangelo, began by telling jurors that Mr. Trump had conspired with his former fixer, Michael D. Cohen, and the publisher of The National Enquirer, David Pecker, to conceal damaging stories during his 2016 campaign.



“This case is about a criminal conspiracy and a cover-up,” Mr. Colangelo said, telling a story about a hush-money payment to a porn star and insisting that the former president was ultimately responsible.

In the end, Mr. Colangelo said, there would be “only one conclusion: Donald Trump is guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree.”


I don't see the "another crime" there.


Mr. Blanche also sought to minimize the charges, saying the records at the heart of the case were just “34 pieces of paper” that the former president had nothing to do with.

Mr. Trump is accused of falsifying business records — which is a felony if prosecutors can show the records were altered with an intent to commit or conceal a second crime.

A year ago, when the former president was formally charged with 34 felonies, the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, told reporters that he did not have to specify what the second crime was, and listed three options. During opening statements, Mr. Colangelo made it clear he believed that the strongest case relied on one of those options: convincing jurors that Mr. Trump concealed the violation of a state law that forbids “conspiracy to promote or prevent an election.”

"Conspiracy to promote or prevent an election?" Could there really be a law that says that?

"I get conspring to prevent an election" being against the law, but there's no way that Trump wanted to prevent the election, he wanted to win it. It couldn't win it if it didn't happen, and Obama would have continued past his 2nd term.

I don't get why conspiring to promote an election would be against the law. Haven't our founders and their descendants in government, along with groups like League of Women Voters, and anyone else interested in elections taking place always promoted elections? It makes no sense to me, can anyone explain it with statutory law, case law, or other valid references?

It seems that the prosecution is presenting a smoke screen to make it seems like there must be something to this, even if the jurors cannot make head nor tail out of it, in hopes they will feel dumb and will vote guilty, instead of telling the other jurors they don't get it. I'm sure some of the stealth anti-Trump jurors have been coached to make them feel dumb. Hopefully, the stealt pro-Trump jurors will not fall for it.

I don't get it, but I am pretty sure at this point, there is nothing to get. That's what the Trumpers on the jury should tell the Bidenistas. Because, this I know: The real arguments will come in the jury room, if they ever get the case.

Good grief. The Democrats' greed for Uber political power has to go all out to humiliate their rival for anything they can convince others is a crime when their candidate has done far worse than beating up on a working horse.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Good grief. The Democrats' greed for Uber political power has to go all out to humiliate their rival for anything they can convince others is a crime when their candidate has done far worse than beating up on a working horse.

Darn that law?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Can anyone give a Lucid Explanation of Bragg's alleged "another crime?"​

Not that anyone would expect you to grasp it, but it has been explained in court documents. The statement facts and Judge Merchan's ruling on Trump's team of lawyers' filing.​

 

[Seymour Flops]

Not that anyone would expect you to grasp it, but it has been explained in court documents. The statement facts and Judge Merchan's ruling on Trump's team of lawyers' filing.​

But yet . . . You cannot name it.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

But yet . . . You cannot name it.

It's been named. You choose to ignore it.

carry on

 

[Seymour Flops]

It's been named. You choose to ignore it.

carry on

Glad you’re admitting you cannot name it.

When will Alvin Bragg admit it, I wonder?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Glad you’re admitting you cannot name it.

When will Alvin Bragg admit it, I wonder?

It's been named in numerous posts in this thread. You choose to ignore it.

carry on

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

But yet . . . You cannot name it.

It has been. You won't accept. That means nothing, because you approval and satisfaction are unnecessary.

 

[Delldude]

That's because you're too dumb to check out what the actual law says.

§ 17-152. Conspiracy to promote or prevent election. Any two or morepersons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person toa public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon byone or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

This would be a federal election case, which is under the purview of DOJ.

When can we expect to see you on fox explaining your decision?

So it's true, you are a closet Foxie.............

Who knows if awake or not. I have told you about Republican lawyers before.

You know what they say about lawyers?

A rose is a rose is a rose.

You know what's a crying shame?

A bus load of lawyers going off a cliff with an empty seat.
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On a different note, I stumbled upon this claim on X about Davidson by Michael Avenatti:



We all know who this guy is, and I took it with a grain of salt...............but then there's this from Roger Stone:



It's beginning to sound like this Davidson guy is a crook............of Cohen caliber.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Oh look, another sealion thread...

Let me save everyone some time:

Posters will do exactly what the title describes. Sealion will object to each effort. 20 pages will go by of tiringly verbose word salads from OP that are intentionally full of falsehood and conjecture.

Then OP will clam nobody was able to meet the challenge.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Procrustes Stretched

See what I mean?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Glad you’re admitting you cannot name it.

When will Alvin Bragg admit it, I wonder?

sealion

 

[leftwinger]

Alvin Bragg, a local Democrat District Attorney in Manhattan, is bringing a New York State prosecution against President Trump. Alvin Bragg’s case alleges President Trump’s company falsified internal business records including payment to his, then, lawyer, Michael Cohen, more than six years ago. Under New York law falsifying internal business records can potentially misdemeanor but the two-year statute of limitations had run. Nonetheless, Alvin Bragg brought this criminal prosecution as a felony. Alvin Bragg’s case is currently being tried in New York. Democrat Judge Juan Merchan is presiding over the trial. Judge Merchan donated to President Biden’s campaign and his daughter is a political operative paid by the Democrat Party. The members of the jury are drawn from a ninety-five percent Democrat jurisdiction. Judge Merchan also issued a gag order threatening to throw President Trump in jail if President Trump speaks publicly about the case or the witnesses. Judge Merchan did not prevent Alan Bragg, or the witnesses Bragg Is calling,from publicly attacking President Trump. Judge Merchan also issued an order requiring President Trump to be in the New York courtroom for the duration of what is expected to be a six-week trial thus preventing President Trump from campaigning for President.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Criminals don't get out of their trials by simply running for office.

 

[Delldude]

sealion

 

[White 6]

This would be a federal election case, which is under the purview of DOJ.

So it's true, you are a closet Foxie.............

You know what they say about lawyers?

A rose is a rose is a rose.

You know what's a crying shame?

A bus load of lawyers going off a cliff with an empty seat.
____________________________________________________________________________

On a different note, I stumbled upon this claim on X about Davidson by Michael Avenatti:



We all know who this guy is, and I took it with a grain of salt...............but then there's this from Roger Stone:



It's beginning to sound like this Davidson guy is a crook............of Cohen caliber.

I do like lawyer jokes, even old ones!

 

[WorldWatcher]

This would be a federal election case, which is under the purview of DOJ.

So it's true, you are a closet Foxie.............

You know what they say about lawyers?

A rose is a rose is a rose.

You know what's a crying shame?

A bus load of lawyers going off a cliff with an empty seat.
____________________________________________________________________________

On a different note, I stumbled upon this claim on X about Davidson by Michael Avenatti:



We all know who this guy is, and I took it with a grain of salt...............but then there's this from Roger Stone:



It's beginning to sound like this Davidson guy is a crook............of Cohen caliber.

Those liberals are scary people.

They arranged for Davidson to be involved in the Hulk Hogan sex tape scandal in 2012 so they could arrest Davidson, then close the case 7 months (still in 2012) so they could make arrangements for Davidson to supply Cohen's emails from 2016.

Damn, that's some foresight right there.

WW

 

[Seymour Flops]

I think that J. Edgar Slow-witted is onto something with that "sealion" business.

When the defense gets up for closing arguments and says WTTE of, "Well, the prosecution has succeeded in "proving" that Trump's lawyer paid for an NDA, which isn't illegal, and that Trump didn't want negative information coming out about himself during an election. What he hasn't shown is what crime Trump allegedly committed. That should be the first question in your jury deliberations "what's the crime?"

The prosecutor can jump up and say, "Objection! Sea lioning!"

 

[Delldude]

They arranged for Davidson to be involved in the Hulk Hogan sex tape scandal in 2012 so they could arrest Davidson, then close the case 7 months (still in 2012) so they could make arrangements for Davidson to supply Cohen's emails from 2016.

I don't believe anyone, other than you, is making that claim......if you can, provide links.................