Question for democrats about Romney

[Dr.Drock]

Do you view Romneycare as an enormous accomplishment for Mitt Romney?

It's basically Obamacare, something most every democrat supports, at the state level. So if you think Obamacare staying on the books would be a big accomplishment for Obama, then you also view Romneycare as a big accomplishment for Mitt, correct?

Thanks for your input.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

 

[Sallow]

Do you view Romneycare as an enormous accomplishment for Mitt Romney?

It's basically Obamacare, something most every democrat supports, at the state level. So if you think Obamacare staying on the books would be a big accomplishment for Obama, then you also view Romneycare as a big accomplishment for Mitt, correct?

Thanks for your input.

It's probably his one true achievement in terms of government service.

While they people of Massachusettes can't stand Romney..they love RomneyCare.

It also served as a proof of concept for Obama when he was choosing between that and single payer. By the way..Romney, himself, advocated that Obama go that direction..

Now Romney wants to repeal it.

Go figure.

 

[Warrior102]

Do you view Romneycare as an enormous accomplishment for Mitt Romney?

It's basically Obamacare, something most every democrat supports, at the state level. So if you think Obamacare staying on the books would be a big accomplishment for Obama, then you also view Romneycare as a big accomplishment for Mitt, correct?

Thanks for your input.

Difference between Romneycare and Obamacare

"Romneycare” was developed by a coalition of Labor, Management, Republicans and Democrats, who collaborated on its makeup, its contents, and represented the people of the state of Massachusetts—at that time in history. That is how a representative democracy works. If Romney disagreed with parts of the Massachusetts law, that was overcome by the 85% Democratic legislature’s power.

Obamacare was “crammed down our throats” by Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, in spite of the fact that almost 2/3 of Americans neither favored the law nor wanted it! And almost that many still do not like it, and still do not want it. Pelosi’s now famous statement, “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it…away from the fog of the controversy…” is indicative of the disregard for the wished of American citizens.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Do you view Romneycare as an enormous accomplishment for Mitt Romney?

It's basically Obamacare, something most every democrat supports, at the state level. So if you think Obamacare staying on the books would be a big accomplishment for Obama, then you also view Romneycare as a big accomplishment for Mitt, correct?

Thanks for your input.

Just a guess, but I bet Dr Drock is aware of all that.

 

[California Girl]

Do you view Romneycare as an enormous accomplishment for Mitt Romney?

It's basically Obamacare, something most every democrat supports, at the state level. So if you think Obamacare staying on the books would be a big accomplishment for Obama, then you also view Romneycare as a big accomplishment for Mitt, correct?

Thanks for your input.

Difference between Romneycare and Obamacare

"Romneycare” was developed by a coalition of Labor, Management, Republicans and Democrats, who collaborated on its makeup, its contents, and represented the people of the state of Massachusetts—at that time in history. That is how a representative democracy works. If Romney disagreed with parts of the Massachusetts law, that was overcome by the 85% Democratic legislature’s power.

Obamacare was “crammed down our throats” by Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, in spite of the fact that almost 2/3 of Americans neither favored the law nor wanted it! And almost that many still do not like it, and still do not want it. Pelosi’s now famous statement, “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it…away from the fog of the controversy…” is indicative of the disregard for the wished of American citizens.

And, it was a state program, not a federal one.

 

[Warrior102]

Just a guess, but I bet Dr Drock is aware of all that.

Yes I know.
That was intended for those idiots who feel Obamacare and Romneycare are one in the same.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Do you view Romneycare as an enormous accomplishment for Mitt Romney?

It's basically Obamacare, something most every democrat supports, at the state level. So if you think Obamacare staying on the books would be a big accomplishment for Obama, then you also view Romneycare as a big accomplishment for Mitt, correct?

Thanks for your input.

Romney has repudiated ORomneycare, so in view of his new position, which is effectively that those plans were mistakes,

the extent that those plans have succeeded or will succeed measures the extent to which Romney is now wrong.

 

[naturegirl]

See, overreaching Feds, again. What may be right for one state's constituents may not be right for each and every state. What works in NY probably won't be so good for small town Georgia.

Romney answered to his people, he didn't impose his own views. The majority wanted health care, he did what he was elected to do.

So tell me does the majority of America want Obamacare?? Is Obama answering to the people or driving his own agenda??

 

[NYcarbineer]

See, overreaching Feds, again. What may be right for one state's constituents may not be right for each and every state. What works in NY probably won't be so good for small town Georgia.

Romney answered to his people, he didn't impose his own views. The majority wanted health care, he did what he was elected to do.

So tell me does the majority of America want Obamacare?? Is Obama answering to the people or driving his own agenda??

The majority of Americans wanted a public insurance option in the healthcare bill. Will man-the-people's-will Romney be pushing for that?

 

[Dr.Drock]

Do you view Romneycare as an enormous accomplishment for Mitt Romney?

It's basically Obamacare, something most every democrat supports, at the state level. So if you think Obamacare staying on the books would be a big accomplishment for Obama, then you also view Romneycare as a big accomplishment for Mitt, correct?

Thanks for your input.

Romney has repudiated ORomneycare, so in view of his new position, which is effectively that those plans were mistakes,

the extent that those plans have succeeded or will succeed measures the extent to which Romney is now wrong.

I'm not asking for your opinion on what he says while campaigning, I'm asking your opinion as to whether or not Romneycare was a huge accomplishment for Romney.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Do you view Romneycare as an enormous accomplishment for Mitt Romney?

It's basically Obamacare, something most every democrat supports, at the state level. So if you think Obamacare staying on the books would be a big accomplishment for Obama, then you also view Romneycare as a big accomplishment for Mitt, correct?

Thanks for your input.

Romney has repudiated ORomneycare, so in view of his new position, which is effectively that those plans were mistakes,

the extent that those plans have succeeded or will succeed measures the extent to which Romney is now wrong.

I'm not asking for your opinion on what he says while campaigning, I'm asking your opinion as to whether or not Romneycare was a huge accomplishment for Romney.

It was an accomplishment for a version of Mitt Romney that no longer exists.

 

[naturegirl]

See, overreaching Feds, again. What may be right for one state's constituents may not be right for each and every state. What works in NY probably won't be so good for small town Georgia.

Romney answered to his people, he didn't impose his own views. The majority wanted health care, he did what he was elected to do.

So tell me does the majority of America want Obamacare?? Is Obama answering to the people or driving his own agenda??

The majority of Americans wanted a public insurance option in the healthcare bill. Will man-the-people's-will Romney be pushing for that?

Yep, he will be, he's already said he'll give every state a waiver and rework the entire healthcare problem. I would think he's got a little more experience at that sort of thing than the current occupant of the White House. However; the majority of Americans are still opposed to Obamacare.

 

[Warrior102]

It was an accomplishment for a version of Mitt Romney that no longer exists.

What does Obama's ass taste like?

 

[buckeye45_73]

See, overreaching Feds, again. What may be right for one state's constituents may not be right for each and every state. What works in NY probably won't be so good for small town Georgia.

Romney answered to his people, he didn't impose his own views. The majority wanted health care, he did what he was elected to do.

So tell me does the majority of America want Obamacare?? Is Obama answering to the people or driving his own agenda??

The majority of Americans wanted a public insurance option in the healthcare bill. Will man-the-people's-will Romney be pushing for that?

Yeah and EVERY ONE of those people dont want to touch Obamacare. POublic option, what for the "little" people. ALL the democrats pushed for that option (even the single payer nuts at the time did) and NONE of them want to be on the bill. EXCEPTIONS to all the democrats. YAY

 

[Avorysuds]

Interesting, so many "conservatives" support very liberal Ideas as long as it's done on a state level but uses federal money to exist.

I assume all conservatives defending Mitt would vote for HC like Romneycare in their own state and view it as "conservative" as well.

BTW, Mitt supported Romneycare (Obamacare) on a federal level... Almost like Mitt didn't know the difference between state VS federal.

 

[naturegirl]

Romney has repudiated ORomneycare, so in view of his new position, which is effectively that those plans were mistakes,

the extent that those plans have succeeded or will succeed measures the extent to which Romney is now wrong.

I'm not asking for your opinion on what he says while campaigning, I'm asking your opinion as to whether or not Romneycare was a huge accomplishment for Romney.

It was an accomplishment for a version of Mitt Romney that no longer exists.

Oh yea!! Is Obama driving his personal agenda or not?? Did Americans want Obamacare? Simple questions, should be easy to answer.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Do you view Romneycare as an enormous accomplishment for Mitt Romney?

It's basically Obamacare, something most every democrat supports, at the state level. So if you think Obamacare staying on the books would be a big accomplishment for Obama, then you also view Romneycare as a big accomplishment for Mitt, correct?

Thanks for your input.

What does Romney think about Romney Care, and when does he contradict himself?

 

[dblack]

See, overreaching Feds, again. What may be right for one state's constituents may not be right for each and every state. What works in NY probably won't be so good for small town Georgia.

Romney answered to his people, he didn't impose his own views. The majority wanted health care, he did what he was elected to do.

So tell me does the majority of America want Obamacare?? Is Obama answering to the people or driving his own agenda??

You can certainly argue that they did. It's essentially the same argument you're making for Romneycare.

It's hilarious (and grotesque, and depressing) to watch Republican followers trying to defend Romney's mandate while condemning Obama's. The state's right's excuse is weak tea. PPACA is a corporatist abuse of individual rights at the federal level. Romney's version was a corporatist abuse of individual rights at the state level. If the only objection Romney has to Obamacare is the state's rights issue - and not the recognition that forcing people to buy shit from your corporate buddies is wrong - then he can go sit in the same corner as Obama and fuck himself.

 

[Warrior102]

See, overreaching Feds, again. What may be right for one state's constituents may not be right for each and every state. What works in NY probably won't be so good for small town Georgia.

Romney answered to his people, he didn't impose his own views. The majority wanted health care, he did what he was elected to do.

So tell me does the majority of America want Obamacare?? Is Obama answering to the people or driving his own agenda??

You can certainly argue that they did. It's essentially the same argument you're making for Romneycare.

It's hilarious (and grotesque, and depressing) to watch Republican followers trying to defend Romney's mandate while condemning Obama's. The state's right's excuse is weak tea. PPACA is a corporatist abuse of individual rights at the federal level. Romney's version was a corporatist abuse of individual rights at the state level. If the only objection Romney has to Obamacare is the state's rights issue - and not the recognition that forcing people to buy shit from your corporate buddies is wrong - then he can go sit in the same corner as Obama and fuck himself.

See Post #4 dopey