Public Schools Produce Dumb Kids

[psikeyhackr]

Results are in:

One central message that emerges from this report is that, despite having the highest levels of educational attainment of any previous American generation, these young adults on average demonstrate relatively weak skills in literacy, numeracy, and problem solving in technology-rich environments compared to their international peers. These findings hold true when looking at millennials overall, our best performing and most educated, those who are native born, and those from the highest socioeconomic background. Equally troubling is that these findings represent a decrease in literacy and numeracy skills for U.S. adults when compared with results from previous adult surveys.

This report explores the growing importance of education and skills in the context of the larger technological, economic, social, and political forces that have been reshaping America for the past 40 years.

America's Skills Challenge: Millennials and the Future - Overview

What I find interesting about articles like this is that they never use a word like "curiosity". It is as though children are only supposed to learn things for their usefulness to society and not supposed to actually be curious in their own right.

psik

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Results are in:

One central message that emerges from this report is that, despite having the highest levels of educational attainment of any previous American generation, these young adults on average demonstrate relatively weak skills in literacy, numeracy, and problem solving in technology-rich environments compared to their international peers. These findings hold true when looking at millennials overall, our best performing and most educated, those who are native born, and those from the highest socioeconomic background. Equally troubling is that these findings represent a decrease in literacy and numeracy skills for U.S. adults when compared with results from previous adult surveys.

This report explores the growing importance of education and skills in the context of the larger technological, economic, social, and political forces that have been reshaping America for the past 40 years.

America's Skills Challenge: Millennials and the Future - Overview

What I find interesting about articles like this is that they never use a word like "curiosity". It is as though children are only supposed to learn things for their usefulness to society and not supposed to actually be curious in their own right.

psik

The vast majority of kids these days are NOT curious about anything as long as they have a roof over their head, a cell phone, and there every wish granted by their parents.

 

[Unkotare]

Results are in:

One central message that emerges from this report is that, despite having the highest levels of educational attainment of any previous American generation, these young adults on average demonstrate relatively weak skills in literacy, numeracy, and problem solving in technology-rich environments compared to their international peers. These findings hold true when looking at millennials overall, our best performing and most educated, those who are native born, and those from the highest socioeconomic background. Equally troubling is that these findings represent a decrease in literacy and numeracy skills for U.S. adults when compared with results from previous adult surveys.

This report explores the growing importance of education and skills in the context of the larger technological, economic, social, and political forces that have been reshaping America for the past 40 years.

America's Skills Challenge: Millennials and the Future - Overview

What I find interesting about articles like this is that they never use a word like "curiosity". It is as though children are only supposed to learn things for their usefulness to society and not supposed to actually be curious in their own right.

psik

The vast majority of kids these days are NOT curious about anything as long as they have a roof over their head, a cell phone, and there every wish granted by their parents.

Bullshit.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Quick question...................

How many of the posters on this thread have gone to public schools? (I have.)

How many have gone to private schools?

And...............if you've gone to public schools, why do you think those who attended private ones are smarter than those who have gone to public ones, and for those who attended private schools, same question.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

This educational system is unnatural to the way children behave.. They should be formed into teams and be motivated through the reward/ punishment framework. Frequently quizzed during the schoolday, the winning team should get Friday off and the lowest-scoring team should have to come in on Saturday. Top individual scorers from four grades older should be paid to teach the Saturday classes. Those who run our present system are motivated by something other than wanting the children to learn.

 

[Unkotare]

This educational system is unnatural to the way children behave.. They should be formed into teams and be motivated through the reward/ punishment framework. Frequently quizzed during the schoolday, the winning team should get Friday off and the lowest-scoring team should have to come in on Saturday. Top individual scorers from four grades older should be paid to teach the Saturday classes. Those who run our present system are motivated by something other than wanting the children to learn.

And your confidence regarding the effectiveness of the pedagogical product produced from your posterior stems from what exactly? What experience, education, or expertise informs such wisdom?

 

[psikeyhackr]

This educational system is unnatural to the way children behave.. They should be formed into teams and be motivated through the reward/ punishment framework. Frequently quizzed during the schoolday, the winning team should get Friday off and the lowest-scoring team should have to come in on Saturday. Top individual scorers from four grades older should be paid to teach the Saturday classes. Those who run our present system are motivated by something other than wanting the children to learn.

Learn What?

My grade school was run by goofy nuns that gave out stars and posted all of the report cards on a corkboard.

Johnny, you got a gold star now isn't that WoDeRfUl?

Yes, I'm really excited about that (You Stupid Bitch!)

The peculiar thing was I wanted to learn but they don't know what to teach. Then I stumbled across science fiction and learned stuff that was not being taught. Which is more important?

Antidisestablishmentarianism

Fission

Fusion

My class had to memorize how to spell the first one. The next two were never mentioned. But they made us hide under desks in case the Russians dropped bombs on us. That was fun! Life on this planet depends on fusion.

So who decides what we are supposed to compete at learning?

psik

 

[Unkotare]

Broken record...

 

[Agit8r]

The title should read: "Public schools accept poorly prepared students." Which they should.

"there should not be a district of one Mile square without a school in it, not founded by a Charitable individual but maintained at the expence of the People themselv they must be taught to reverence themselvs instead of adoreing their servants their Generals Admirals Bishops and Statesmen"
-- John Adams; from letter to John Jebb (Sept. 10, 1785)

 

[ScienceRocks]

This thread is weird as the dumbest group of people in the country believe that a social safetynet, investment or much of anything makes one dumb. Yet, all the information I've seen about this group of idiots accusing people of that show that they're in fact the dumb ones.

Weird.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

This educational system is unnatural to the way children behave.. They should be formed into teams and be motivated through the reward/ punishment framework. Frequently quizzed during the schoolday, the winning team should get Friday off and the lowest-scoring team should have to come in on Saturday. Top individual scorers from four grades older should be paid to teach the Saturday classes. Those who run our present system are motivated by something other than wanting the children to learn.

Learn What?

My grade school was run by goofy nuns that gave out stars and posted all of the report cards on a corkboard.

Johnny, you got a gold star now isn't that WoDeRfUl?

Yes, I'm really excited about that (You Stupid Bitch!)

The peculiar thing was I wanted to learn but they don't know what to teach. Then I stumbled across science fiction and learned stuff that was not being taught. Which is more important?

Antidisestablishmentarianism

Fission

Fusion

My class had to memorize how to spell the first one. The next two were never mentioned. But they made us hide under desks in case the Russians dropped bombs on us. That was fun! Life on this planet depends on fusion.

So who decides what we are supposed to compete at learning?

psik

Proud Prometheans

You miss the point. Getting gold stars does not motivate; it treats children like babies. Getting Friday off, or avoiding having to come in on Saturday, does motivate. The greatest benefit will be that a smart kid will study like we need him to if we are going to make any economic progress. Instead of being treated like a freaky nerd off in his own little world, he will be like the kid who hits the game-winning home run.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Proud Prometheans

You miss the point. Getting gold stars does not motivate; it treats children like babies. Getting Friday off, or avoiding having to come in on Saturday, does motivate. The greatest benefit will be that a smart kid will study like we need him to if we are going to make any economic progress. Instead of being treated like a freaky nerd off in his own little world, he will be like the kid who hits the game-winning home run.

LOL

What is economic progress in a society that does not admit that Planned Obsolescence is happening? You expect kids to be dummies that you can manipulate. Been reading too much B. F. Skinner.

psik

 

[Unkotare]

......

You miss the point. Getting gold stars does not motivate; it treats children like babies. Getting Friday off, or avoiding having to come in on Saturday, does motivate. ......

You're wrong.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Proud Prometheans

You miss the point. Getting gold stars does not motivate; it treats children like babies. Getting Friday off, or avoiding having to come in on Saturday, does motivate. The greatest benefit will be that a smart kid will study like we need him to if we are going to make any economic progress. Instead of being treated like a freaky nerd off in his own little world, he will be like the kid who hits the game-winning home run.

LOL

What is economic progress in a society that does not admit that Planned Obsolescence is happening? You expect kids to be dummies that you can manipulate. Been reading too much B. F. Skinner.

psik

"Fatcats Love Mice" Is the Educational Philosophy Being Forced on Us


They are being manipulated under the present failed system. You worship the status quo too much, as if were some free and natural outcome and that any attempt to change it is arrogance.

 

[P@triot]

It's not just public schools. It's universities as well...

What are we to make of higher education when students and institutions respond to the recent presidential election with cry-ins, canceled exams, therapy dogs, Play-Doh, coloring books, group screams, Legos, bubble-blowing, and trauma counseling?

For some time, higher learning has been a political matter, one where the primary aim is to usher students into the club of elite (supposedly enlightened) progressive opinion. Gone is the formation of keen, analytical habits of mind and rational argument.

The result is not just a poorly educated student body, but an infantilized one. Mature discourse is out, and fragility, dependence, and bad temper is in.

Rather than cultivate habits of sustained and sober thought, we encourage manufactured outrage and self-indulgent victimhood. Anyone who has spent time with 2-year-olds recognizes the behavior. In our case, however, we appear to cultivate it on our campuses.

And volume is coercive. When 2-year-olds throw tantrums, they attempt to force matters and get their own way. A set of people taught not to reason but to huddle in safe spaces and throw the occasional tantrum is a people taught to impose their will. They have not been denied a voice; rather, they are intent upon being the only voice.

How Infantilized Campuses Threaten Our Nation's Future

 

[ScienceRocks]

 

[Abishai100]

The Billboard Brain


It's all about investments in the quality (training, etc.) of teachers and the psychological environment offered by the classrooms themselves.

You could have a promising school in New Guinea (teaching pygmies mathematics) and an equally unimpossible inner-city public school classroom in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (USA) and an equally populism-imaginative classroom at a respected private school such as Choate.

 

[Unkotare]

The Billboard Brain


It's all about investments in the quality (training, etc.) of teachers and the psychological environment offered by the classrooms themselves.

You could have a promising school in New Guinea (teaching pygmies mathematics) and an equally unimpossible inner-city public school classroom in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (USA) and an equally populism-imaginative classroom at a respected private school such as Choate.


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Somebody's basting their turkey with LSD.

 

[initforme]

Too bad the likes of !ow IQ folk like patriot don't give up a decent salary and teach. They like to cry like little babies but their inabilities prevent them from teaching.

 

[LuckyDuck]

So true...and may explain why criminals like Hillary could be POTUS. The dumbing down of America has benefited the socialist party tremendously, but they still want more dummies imported from third world...and the R party is too feeble minded to stop it.

No wonder so many are socialists, says the Great Walter Williams.


Public Schools Produce Dumb Kids
Do you wonder why Sen. Bernie Sanders and his ideas are so popular among American college students? The answer is that they, like so many other young people who think they know it all, are really uninformed and ignorant. You say, "Williams, how dare you say that?! We've mortgaged our home to send our children to college." Let's start with the 2006 geographic literacy survey of youngsters between 18 and 24 years of age by National Geographic and Roper Public Affairs.

Less than half could identify New York and Ohio on a U.S. map. Sixty percent could not find Iraq or Saudi Arabia on a map of the Middle East, and three-quarters could not find Iran or Israel. In fact, 44 percent could not locate even one of those four countries. Youngsters who had taken a geography class didn't fare much better. By the way, when I attended elementary school, during the 1940s, we were given blank U.S. maps, and our assignment was to write in the states. Today such an assignment might be deemed oppressive, if not racist.

To accommodate less college-ready students, colleges must water down their curricula, lower standards and abandon traditional tools and topics. Emory University English professor Mark Bauerlein writes in his book "The Dumbest Generation": Tradition "serves a crucial moral and intellectual function. ... People who read Thucydides and Caesar on war, and Seneca and Ovid on love, are less inclined to construe passing fads as durable outlooks, to fall into the maelstrom of celebrity culture, to presume that the circumstances of their own life are worth a Web page."

In your second paragraph, you listed Saudi Arabia, the Middle East, Iran and Israel and then added that 44 percent couldn't locate even one of those "four" countries. Just FYI, the Middle East isn't a country in and of itself, it is an area that is comprised of multiple countries, of which, Iran and Israel are a part of, thus the correct figure was three.
Moving on. Our educational system is now considered to be comparable to that of third-world nations, thus making your overall statement, correct.
It began with the policy of "socially-promoting" students, rather than having them fail a class. Once that policy began, we started to see students graduating from high schools, who could barely read and write. Add to this, inner city black students would pressure those black students trying to achieve, as trying to be white, running the chances of the good black students education, all because of peer pressure.
Another problem was the attack on science courses by the religious organizations and families that objected to science and its teachings of evolution. Science became less influential in the high school academia.
In colleges and universities the instructors hired to teach what students that did advance beyond high school, were far-left Marxist leaning individuals whose goals were not to improve young minds, but rather to instill their own personal social philosophies into the students.
Add in the H-1B visa and you have foreign students coming in to learn from the more prominent universities, only to then take what they've learned back to their own nations and as a result, you have other nations advancing technologically, while we, with limited numbers of American students in those classes, slowly decline.