Persecution is coming

[Book of Jeremiah]

Yesterday I was reading Brother Boldea's message that he had posted a link to an old sermon he'd preached on Persecution and he said it was a timely message for right now. I would say it is timely not only for America as a nation but for Christians worldwide. Persecution is coming. Hebrews 10:35 is a great scripture to hold fast to in this hour.

A Timely Message - Sermon is from 2012 posted yesterday by Brother Boldea.


Years ago, David WiIkerson preached a sermon on this subject. Quoting Wilkerson,

"If you are a Christian, you are in a fierce war. In fact, you're in a life and death battle for your faith. Satan is determined to shipwreck and destroy the faith of all God's elect. And the stronger your faith, the greater will be his attack against it. Unshakable faith in the Lord causes hell to rage. Nothing poses a greater threat to Satan's kingdom than a Christian who is unmovable in faith. Why? It is faith and it's released power that Satan's kingdom is subdued. By faith, righteousness is born, and demonic fires are quenched. God's promises are obtained and the mouths of lions are shut. By faith, God's faithful escape the edge of the sword. They become brave in battle, turning the devil's army to flight. They endure mockery, beating, stonings, and if they are locked in jail, they sing. "Simply put, faith sustains those who possess it!"
-David Wilkerson

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Scripture to exhort and edify the Believers - how to grow in our faith -

Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:

And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.

And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.

Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

2 Thessalonians 3:1-6

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;

Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
1 Timothy 1:18-20

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

And he said unto him, Lord, I am ready to go with thee, both into prison, and to death.
Luke 22:31-33

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Hebrews 12:1-8

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Persecution is coming"

Delusional nonsense.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

"Persecution is coming"

Delusional nonsense.

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:18

 

[guno]

The world has been hearing this stuff of over 2000 years and in reality it has been the history of christianity that has been the persecutor , though wars inquisitions crusades, burning at the stake witch trials blasphemy laws , blue laws , the list goes on and on


"The religious persecution narrative is nothing new – it has long been at the core of the Right’s reaction to secular government and religious pluralism – but it has taken off in recent years in reaction to advances in gay rights and reproductive freedom, and to an increasingly secular and pluralistic society.

The frantic warnings, fueled by individual persecution myths, range from the insistence that conservative Christians are losing their right to free speech to the claim that the U.S. is on the verge of instituting unconstitutional hate speech laws to dire predictions that religious faith itself might soon be criminalized."

The most prolific manufacturer and promoter of apocryphal stories of American Christian persecution working today is Fox News reporter Todd Starnes. If a story emerges about a service member punished for his or her Christian beliefs or a schoolchild banned from talking about Christmas, it most likely originated with or was promoted by Starnes. And there’s a good chance the facts have been either severely distorted or completely fabricated.

For an example of how the Starnes myth machine works, take the story of Air Force Sgt. Phillip Monk, “relieved of his duties,” according to Starnes, “after he disagreed with his openly gay commander when she wanted to severely punish an instructor who had expressed religious objections to homosexuality.”

“Christians have to go into the closet,” Monk told Starnes. “We are being robbed of our dignity and respect. We can’t be who we are.” Starnes added: “n essence, Christians are trading places with homosexuals.”

It appears that Monk’s story was being shopped around by his attorneys at Liberty Institute, one of several Christian Right legal groups that devote themselves to digging up and publicizing alleged cases of persecution. The Alliance Defending Freedom and the American Center for Law and Justice have played a similar role, cheered on by allies in groups such as the Family Research Council (FRC) and the American Family Association (AFA).


Persecution Complex: The Right’s Deceptive Rallying Cry

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The world has been hearing this stuff of over 2000 years and in reality it has been the history of christianity that has been the persecutor , though wars inquisitions crusades, burning at the stake witch trials blasphemy laws , blue laws , the list goes on and on


"The religious persecution narrative is nothing new – it has long been at the core of the Right’s reaction to secular government and religious pluralism – but it has taken off in recent years in reaction to advances in gay rights and reproductive freedom, and to an increasingly secular and pluralistic society.

The frantic warnings, fueled by individual persecution myths, range from the insistence that conservative Christians are losing their right to free speech to the claim that the U.S. is on the verge of instituting unconstitutional hate speech laws to dire predictions that religious faith itself might soon be criminalized."

The most prolific manufacturer and promoter of apocryphal stories of American Christian persecution working today is Fox News reporter Todd Starnes. If a story emerges about a service member punished for his or her Christian beliefs or a schoolchild banned from talking about Christmas, it most likely originated with or was promoted by Starnes. And there’s a good chance the facts have been either severely distorted or completely fabricated.

For an example of how the Starnes myth machine works, take the story of Air Force Sgt. Phillip Monk, “relieved of his duties,” according to Starnes, “after he disagreed with his openly gay commander when she wanted to severely punish an instructor who had expressed religious objections to homosexuality.”

“Christians have to go into the closet,” Monk told Starnes. “We are being robbed of our dignity and respect. We can’t be who we are.” Starnes added: “n essence, Christians are trading places with homosexuals.”

It appears that Monk’s story was being shopped around by his attorneys at Liberty Institute, one of several Christian Right legal groups that devote themselves to digging up and publicizing alleged cases of persecution. The Alliance Defending Freedom and the American Center for Law and Justice have played a similar role, cheered on by allies in groups such as the Family Research Council (FRC) and the American Family Association (AFA).


Persecution Complex: The Right’s Deceptive Rallying Cry

You're referencing the History of Roman Catholicism and I agree with you that the persecution they have put upon the Jews and Christians has been horrific - both in times of war, Inquisitions, and times of peace - through subversive means - infiltrating protestant churches, governments, assassinations of Kings, Presidents, rulers, creating wicked front organizations such as the League of Nations, U.N. plans for a NWO - and so forth. Still what has that to do with Christianity, Guno? Nothing.

Is Mike Huckabee a Christian? By his own actions? I do not believe he is. I believe he is another agent of Rome. These men are put in front of the American people to present themselves as Christians but their real job (imo) is endorsing the Vatican and Catholicism as legitimate (when it is a false church).

 

[guno]

This wasn't a hit piece

 

[guno]

The world has been hearing this stuff of over 2000 years and in reality it has been the history of christianity that has been the persecutor , though wars inquisitions crusades, burning at the stake witch trials blasphemy laws , blue laws , the list goes on and on


"The religious persecution narrative is nothing new – it has long been at the core of the Right’s reaction to secular government and religious pluralism – but it has taken off in recent years in reaction to advances in gay rights and reproductive freedom, and to an increasingly secular and pluralistic society.

The frantic warnings, fueled by individual persecution myths, range from the insistence that conservative Christians are losing their right to free speech to the claim that the U.S. is on the verge of instituting unconstitutional hate speech laws to dire predictions that religious faith itself might soon be criminalized."

The most prolific manufacturer and promoter of apocryphal stories of American Christian persecution working today is Fox News reporter Todd Starnes. If a story emerges about a service member punished for his or her Christian beliefs or a schoolchild banned from talking about Christmas, it most likely originated with or was promoted by Starnes. And there’s a good chance the facts have been either severely distorted or completely fabricated.

For an example of how the Starnes myth machine works, take the story of Air Force Sgt. Phillip Monk, “relieved of his duties,” according to Starnes, “after he disagreed with his openly gay commander when she wanted to severely punish an instructor who had expressed religious objections to homosexuality.”

“Christians have to go into the closet,” Monk told Starnes. “We are being robbed of our dignity and respect. We can’t be who we are.” Starnes added: “n essence, Christians are trading places with homosexuals.”

It appears that Monk’s story was being shopped around by his attorneys at Liberty Institute, one of several Christian Right legal groups that devote themselves to digging up and publicizing alleged cases of persecution. The Alliance Defending Freedom and the American Center for Law and Justice have played a similar role, cheered on by allies in groups such as the Family Research Council (FRC) and the American Family Association (AFA).


Persecution Complex: The Right’s Deceptive Rallying Cry

You're referencing the History of Roman Catholicism and I agree with you that the persecution they have put upon the Jews and Christians has been horrific - both in times of war, Inquisitions, and times of peace - through subversive means - infiltrating protestant churches, governments, assassinations of Kings, Presidents, rulers, creating wicked front organizations such as the League of Nations, U.N. plans for a NWO - and so forth. Still what has that to do with Christianity, Guno? Nothing.

Nope in this country the fundys did a lot of those things

 

[guno]

America's True History of Religious Tolerance

The idea that the United States has always been a bastion of religious freedom is reassuring—and utterly at odds with the historical record


The much-ballyhooed arrival of the Pilgrims and Puritans in New England in the early 1600s was indeed a response to persecution that these religious dissenters had experienced in England. But the Puritan fathers of the Massachusetts Bay Colony did not countenance tolerance of opposing religious views. Their “city upon a hill” was a theocracy that brooked no dissent, religious or political.




America's True History of Religious Tolerance | History | Smithsonian

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The world has been hearing this stuff of over 2000 years and in reality it has been the history of christianity that has been the persecutor , though wars inquisitions crusades, burning at the stake witch trials blasphemy laws , blue laws , the list goes on and on


"The religious persecution narrative is nothing new – it has long been at the core of the Right’s reaction to secular government and religious pluralism – but it has taken off in recent years in reaction to advances in gay rights and reproductive freedom, and to an increasingly secular and pluralistic society.

The frantic warnings, fueled by individual persecution myths, range from the insistence that conservative Christians are losing their right to free speech to the claim that the U.S. is on the verge of instituting unconstitutional hate speech laws to dire predictions that religious faith itself might soon be criminalized."

The most prolific manufacturer and promoter of apocryphal stories of American Christian persecution working today is Fox News reporter Todd Starnes. If a story emerges about a service member punished for his or her Christian beliefs or a schoolchild banned from talking about Christmas, it most likely originated with or was promoted by Starnes. And there’s a good chance the facts have been either severely distorted or completely fabricated.

For an example of how the Starnes myth machine works, take the story of Air Force Sgt. Phillip Monk, “relieved of his duties,” according to Starnes, “after he disagreed with his openly gay commander when she wanted to severely punish an instructor who had expressed religious objections to homosexuality.”

“Christians have to go into the closet,” Monk told Starnes. “We are being robbed of our dignity and respect. We can’t be who we are.” Starnes added: “n essence, Christians are trading places with homosexuals.”

It appears that Monk’s story was being shopped around by his attorneys at Liberty Institute, one of several Christian Right legal groups that devote themselves to digging up and publicizing alleged cases of persecution. The Alliance Defending Freedom and the American Center for Law and Justice have played a similar role, cheered on by allies in groups such as the Family Research Council (FRC) and the American Family Association (AFA).


Persecution Complex: The Right’s Deceptive Rallying Cry

You're referencing the History of Roman Catholicism and I agree with you that the persecution they have put upon the Jews and Christians has been horrific - both in times of war, Inquisitions, and times of peace - through subversive means - infiltrating protestant churches, governments, assassinations of Kings, Presidents, rulers, creating wicked front organizations such as the League of Nations, U.N. plans for a NWO - and so forth. Still what has that to do with Christianity, Guno? Nothing.

Nope in this country the fundys did a lot of those things

If you read the history on the Jesuits who infiltrated the Protestant churches and started the KKK, the Jesuits who were also the founders of Freemasonry through the RCC - the Mormon doctrine, the Jim Jones Cult (he was a trained Jesuit) the history always appears to go straight back to the Roman Catholic Institution. It makes you wonder what they weren't behind. Did you know Billy Graham was a 33 degree Mason and operative for the Vatican? And Pat Robertson? Another operative for the Jesuits and the Vatican? Yes, that is why such men are promoted as "Christians" yet it is clear by the doctrine they teach they are no such thing - yet they were given world wide attention - audience by the media intentionally for the very purpose of deceiving the Christians - had they been true men of God they would have received the same welcome as the early apostles - stonings, beatings, no media attention (unless it was vile and negative) executions.

 

[bodecea]

"Persecution is coming"

Delusional nonsense.

Some are not happy unless they can be up on that cross.

 

[guno]

Only people who are totally divorced from reality would think Christians in America are persecuted

"The most persecuted minority in the United States is not Muslims, African-Americans or immigrants. It’s our Christian supermajority that’s truly oppressed.

Verily, consider three anecdotes from the past few weeks.

On March 2, three Baptist ministers in Akron, Ohio, arranged for the local police to mock-arrest them in their churches and haul them away in handcuffs for the simple act of preaching their faith. A video was posted on YouTube to drum up buzz for an upcoming revival show. A few atheist blogs object to uniformed police taking part in a church publicity stunt, but far more people who saw the YouTube video (24,082 views), in Ohio and elsewhere, took this media stunt as reality — confirmation of their wildest fears about a government clampdown on Christianity.

On Feb. 26, Arizona’s conservative Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed a bill that would have allowed businesses to refuse services to people who violate their sincerely held religious beliefs — for example, gays and lesbians. Fox News pundit Todd Starnes tweeted that Christians have been demoted to second-class citizenship in Arizona, an opinion widely shared on the right-wing Christian blogosphere, which sees Brewer’s veto as a harbinger of even greater persecution to come.

And the feature film “Persecuted,” a political thriller about a federal government plan to censor Christianity in the name of liberalism, is due out in May. Featuring former Sen. Fred Thompson and Fox News host Gretchen Carlson, the movie received a rapturous reception at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference on March 10 and is of a piece with other Christian films such as “God’s Not Dead,” about a freshman believer bullied into proving the existence of god by an atheist professor.

Far from reality
Needless to say (or maybe not) this news ticker of persecuted American Christians floats far and free from reality. More than 75 percent of the United States identifies as Christian; 57 percent believe in the devil, and nearly 8 in 10 Americans believe the Bible to be either the “inspired word” or literal word of God. Despite the constitutional separation of church and state, the government began under President George W. Bush to outsource social welfare programs to faith-based organizations (more than 98 percent, according to one 2006 study, of them Christian churches), and schools with religious ties (mostly Christian) in several states are now well fed by direct public subsidies. But then, American places of worship (again, most of them Christian) have long enjoyed a de facto public subsidy as tax-exempt 501(c)3 organizations funded by tax-deductible contributions. Last month President Barack Obama himself held forth at National Prayer Breakfast about the importance of Jesus in his life"

OPINION: The bitter tears of the American Christian supermajority

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

On the matter of Christian persecution? All one has to do is ask the LORD to open their eyes to what is happening around the world right now, Guno. It is not difficult to see what is happening.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

"Persecution is coming"

Delusional nonsense.

Some are not happy unless they can be up on that cross.

The early church suffered great persecution. I believe the Book of Acts will happen again in our very lifetime. Will the Christians in wide road churches suffer persecution? I do not believe that most of them will because as Mike Boldea Jr. pointed out -when they are told they are going to lose their homes, their cars, their money, their comfortable lives if they do not deny Christ and join the One World False Religion led by the Roman Pope? They will deny Christ rather than part with their worldly treasures and pleasures. Sad but true.

 

[the_human_being]

Yesterday I was reading Brother Boldea's message that he had posted a link to an old sermon he'd preached on Persecution and he said it was a timely message for right now. I would say it is timely not only for America as a nation but for Christians worldwide. Persecution is coming. Hebrews 10:35 is a great scripture to hold fast to in this hour.

A Timely Message - Sermon is from 2012 posted yesterday by Brother Boldea.


Years ago, David WiIkerson preached a sermon on this subject. Quoting Wilkerson,

"If you are a Christian, you are in a fierce war. In fact, you're in a life and death battle for your faith. Satan is determined to shipwreck and destroy the faith of all God's elect. And the stronger your faith, the greater will be his attack against it. Unshakable faith in the Lord causes hell to rage. Nothing poses a greater threat to Satan's kingdom than a Christian who is unmovable in faith. Why? It is faith and it's released power that Satan's kingdom is subdued. By faith, righteousness is born, and demonic fires are quenched. God's promises are obtained and the mouths of lions are shut. By faith, God's faithful escape the edge of the sword. They become brave in battle, turning the devil's army to flight. They endure mockery, beating, stonings, and if they are locked in jail, they sing. "Simply put, faith sustains those who possess it!"
-David Wilkerson

Of course it is coming. It was recorded in the Bible for us to read and understand over two thousand years ago. We should not be alarmed. Indeed, we should pray "Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven". While it is perfectly permissible to pray for one's country and its leaders, one should realize that perhaps it is the will of God for America to turn to lawlessness and unrighteousness and become an anti-Christ nation. Some of us even read the Bible to identify America as "Mystery Babylon the Great".

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

America is Mystery Babylon. See Rev. 18 and Jeremiah 51. The Scriptures clearly identify America as Mystery Babylon.