Pallin Is a Public Liar

[sealybobo]

Dude. again.. if YOU can find a single fucking scrap of scripture to suggest that CAPITOLISM in any way, shape or form is validated by the christian saviour Im ready to see it. I"VE POSTED my evidence. where is yours?


I suggest you go ask a preacher why wealth was never a concern of jebus on your way to asking a second question about brothers being keepers and charity to your fellow fucking man.


you might just learn something.

I agree with you Shogun, but I also think this guy is reasonable. He seems new, so probably doesn't realize that we have to deal with totally one sided neo kooks on these boards so we're a little defenses. I think this guy is willing to be intellectually honest. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Republican talking points had merit, about 10 years ago. I think the only wrong with this guy is he is willing to believe/trust that McCain & Palin are being honest.

And I assure you, they are not. They are giving the voters what they want to hear.

And remember, people like him have been brainwashed to think Liberals are crazy and want to make America socialist. We need to extend the olive branch and let him know we aren't one sided lefties.

Being pro choice doesn't make me a lefty. It makes me an American.

Being anti war does not make me a lefty

Being pro social security doesn't make me a lefty

Being against the tax break to the rich doesn't mean I want warshington to keep and spend it. I want them to redistribute it to all of us. And, I want the GOP to not spend double what the Democrats spent.

They may have been able to convince me that the Republicans are better than the democrats had they only been fiscally responsible. But they were not, so the GOP has NOTHING to offer me. Except lies, bullshit and scare tactics.

 

[Shogun]

Ahh... Well, let's see... The Individual right to accumulate wealth has fed more poor than any other effort in human history... Now if you'd like to contest that, I challenge you to post an example of another human effort which you feel has fed more poor than the United States...


are yu fucking kidding me? kinda stretching real far here, arent ya? sucking dick in a brothel feeds kids to. How do you think that relates to the message of jebus? And, be sure, YOU have no records of every charitable effort by EVERY culture that has EVER been the product of congregating human beings so your ethnocentrism is about as impressive as an ants dick.


What's more the freedom to accumulate wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other concept in the history of human history...


AND, it's also PUT more people into slavery than ANYTHING ELSE this side of religion. Please.. continue to grasp for straws. I take it this rhetorical bullshit is your substitution for biblical scriptures?



Now since you're example dealt with Christ's teaching that all men were created equal and each was entitled to pursue the fulfillment of their own life... and since leftism has enslaved, starved and impoverished more human beings than any other human effort... I'd say that Capitalism is the way that Christ taught.


Are you fucking kidding me? You think SLAVERY was an invention of the left you mercantile wannabe motherfucker? You think COMMUNISM drives China's sweatshops? LOLOLOL!

Hey, fuck it. SHOW ME YOUR EVIDENCE OF THESE ASSUMPTIONS.

whip out your fucking SOURCES.


Poor can't feed the poor... Starving people are going to have a VERY HARD time feeding the hungry; but an affluent culture can and does feed vastly more poor through their CHARITABLE contributions than the US federal government does through its fascist income redistribution. What YOU people want to do is what you ALWAYS want to do... you want to hoist the notion that people are ENTITLED to the product of another man's labor, that way you don't have to listen to his demands when you ask him for charity.



LOL

Dude.. if you don't have a rebuttal just say so. No one cares to hear you gloss over the entire fucking economic reality of the American south for 3/4ths of it's fucking history.


Socialism cannot rid the town, county, parish, state or nation of poverty... it can only make it the norm.



NICE RHETORIC! Im just all kinds of impressed!


sorry dude.. you FAIL.

 

[AllieBaba]

You really are stupid, taking more from people who have more is called a graduated income tax. Socialism is the collective ownership of wealth. I swear...

And I don't believe there's any scripture which supports this..which I believe was Shogun's first claim? That socialism was a biblical concept?

 

[sealybobo]

Ahh... Well, let's see... The Individual right to accumulate wealth has fed more poor than any other effort in human history... Now if you'd like to contest that, I challenge you to post an example of another human effort which you feel has fed more poor than the United States...


are yu fucking kidding me? kinda stretching real far here, arent ya? sucking dick in a brothel feeds kids to. How do you think that relates to the message of jebus? And, be sure, YOU have no records of every charitable effort by EVERY culture that has EVER been the product of congregating human beings so your ethnocentrism is about as impressive as an ants dick.


What's more the freedom to accumulate wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other concept in the history of human history...


AND, it's also PUT more people into slavery than ANYTHING ELSE this side of religion. Please.. continue to grasp for straws. I take it this rhetorical bullshit is your substitution for biblical scriptures?



Now since you're example dealt with Christ's teaching that all men were created equal and each was entitled to pursue the fulfillment of their own life... and since leftism has enslaved, starved and impoverished more human beings than any other human effort... I'd say that Capitalism is the way that Christ taught.


Are you fucking kidding me? You think SLAVERY was an invention of the left you mercantile wannabe motherfucker? You think COMMUNISM drives China's sweatshops? LOLOLOL!

Hey, fuck it. SHOW ME YOUR EVIDENCE OF THESE ASSUMPTIONS.

whip out your fucking SOURCES.


Poor can't feed the poor... Starving people are going to have a VERY HARD time feeding the hungry; but an affluent culture can and does feed vastly more poor through their CHARITABLE contributions than the US federal government does through its fascist income redistribution. What YOU people want to do is what you ALWAYS want to do... you want to hoist the notion that people are ENTITLED to the product of another man's labor, that way you don't have to listen to his demands when you ask him for charity.



LOL

Dude.. if you don't have a rebuttal just say so. No one cares to hear you gloss over the entire fucking economic reality of the American south for 3/4ths of it's fucking history.


Socialism cannot rid the town, county, parish, state or nation of poverty... it can only make it the norm.



NICE RHETORIC! Im just all kinds of impressed!


sorry dude.. you FAIL.

When Rockafellor, JP Morgan & Carnege took over America in 1913 when they bribed Congress to let them control our finances and start the Federal Reserve & put the income tax on our labor, I believe they gave half of their fortunes away then too.

I'll give away millions if I know billions are coming to me too. Big fucking deal. But it made them look like good guys.

 

[Haro]

And I don't believe there's any scripture which supports this..which I believe was Shogun's first claim? That socialism was a biblical concept?

Elements may or mat not have have been in the bible but I think that means little to the definition of the terms. You can not just say something is socialist if it does not allow maximum profits by companies and people.

 

[AllieBaba]

Elements may or mat not have have been in the bible but I think that means little to the definition of the terms. You can not just say something is socialist if it does not allow maximum profits by companies and people.

As I said, Shogun said it. Not me.

 

[Haro]

As I said, Shogun said it. Not me.

Then why did you criticize my remark against him/her? I was just alerting him/her that he/she got their definition mixed up.

 

[AllieBaba]

Then why did you criticize my remark against him/her? I was just alerting him/her that he/she got their definition mixed up.

I wasn't criticizing your remark. I was using your remark to illustrate a point..which is that the Bible doesn't have socialist content.

 

[Haro]

I wasn't criticizing your remark. I was using your remark to illustrate a point..which is that the Bible doesn't have socialist content.

Sorry, my fault. I would have to aggree. I would think the authors of the bible would have prepared a theocracy, like the Holy Roman Empire

 

[strollingbones]

Ahh... Well, let's see... The Individual right to accumulate wealth has fed more poor than any other effort in human history... Now if you'd like to contest that, I challenge you to post an example of another human effort which you feel has fed more poor than the United States...

What's more the freedom to accumulate wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any other concept in the history of human history...

Now since you're example dealt with Christ's teaching that all men were created equal and each was entitled to pursue the fulfillment of their own life... and since leftism has enslaved, starved and impoverished more human beings than any other human effort... I'd say that Capitalism is the way that Christ taught.

Poor can't feed the poor... Starving people are going to have a VERY HARD time feeding the hungry; but an affluent culture can and does feed vastly more poor through their CHARITABLE contributions than the US federal government does through its fascist income redistribution. What YOU people want to do is what you ALWAYS want to do... you want to hoist the notion that people are ENTITLED to the product of another man's labor, that way you don't have to listen to his demands when you ask him for charity.

Socialism cannot rid the town, county, parish, state or nation of poverty... it can only make it the norm.

christainity has also caused more wars and killings...millions of witches were killed by christians...look it up.... your god is a weak and jealous god...have not other gods before me....lol....but then i love the passing of the "holy trinity" as the one true god.....One?

as for the charitable works....isnt that what you are suppose to do with your giving...tell me...do you give 10% of your gross income to the church? as required by your bible?

do you follow all the laws of the old testament? or just the ones slamming gays and women?

how much will you be selling your daughter for? do you have slaves...if so....keep them reading that book that tells them to be good slaves.

so dont blow your horn about how great your god is....or your religion....
this country is based on freedom from religion as well as freedom of religion.

you have ever right to believe what you believe...you have no right to try to shove it down anyone else's throat.

 

[AllieBaba]

christainity has also caused more wars and killings...millions of witches were killed by christians...look it up.... your god is a weak and jealous god...have not other gods before me....lol....but then i love the passing of the "holy trinity" as the one true god.....One?

as for the charitable works....isnt that what you are suppose to do with your giving...tell me...do you give 10% of your gross income to the church? as required by your bible?

do you follow all the laws of the old testament? or just the ones slamming gays and women?

how much will you be selling your daughter for? do you have slaves...if so....keep them reading that book that tells them to be good slaves.

so dont blow your horn about how great your god is....or your religion....
this country is based on freedom from religion as well as freedom of religion.

you have ever right to believe what you believe...you have no right to try to shove it down anyone else's throat.

"Millions of witches"?

The rest of this post is just too out there to even respond to. But I will tell you, Christianity didn't "cause" anything. Men and the devil do what they will, and they will do it in the name of God...but that doesn't mean it's sanctioned by God.

And while we live in the US, we will speak freely of our religion and our beliefs if we so desire. If you don't like it, you are welcome to plug your ears or take your sad ass off to a different place, where Christians aren't allowed to speak, or...er...how did you put it..."shove it down anyone else's throat".

BTW, referring to your religion is not shoving it down anyone else's throat. Nor is responding to questions about it. Take your bias and shove it up your stupid ass. Then look up the "millions of witches" that the Christians slaughtered and provide a fucking link.

 

[strollingbones]

o sorry it was just a million...i am not here to find links for your ass....

you can find out your own christian histories....


and yes christians with their witnessing try to shove it down your throat......

just ask someone who is not christian nor wants to be..how it is...to hear the continue...our god is so true and great but yours isnt....

 

[strollingbones]

why are christians even bitching on this thread...isnt it suppose to be about palin?

 

[strollingbones]

i bet there is a forum for christains ...and religion......on this board somewhere...why not go there to discuss religion.. instead of bringing to the elections forum.

 

[strollingbones]

Religion and Ethics - US Message Board

 

[strollingbones]

there is a link to discuss your god and your religion....why not go to that board...
i understood this to be an election discussion.

 

[AllieBaba]

If Shogun can't keep focused on a convo, he'll throw in religion to derail it.

 

[AllieBaba]

o sorry it was just a million...i am not here to find links for your ass....

you can find out your own christian histories....


and yes christians with their witnessing try to shove it down your throat......

just ask someone who is not christian nor wants to be..how it is...to hear the continue...our god is so true and great but yours isnt....

Christians aren't the ones who started carping about "Jebus" and "Christianity" and the Bible.

You don't have a link. In other words, you were lying about "millions of witches" being killed by Christians. You're a lying bigot. Thank you.

Next subject.

 

[HoleInTheVoid]

Dude. again.. if YOU can find a single fucking scrap of scripture to suggest that CAPITOLISM in any way, shape or form is validated by the christian saviour Im ready to see it. I"VE POSTED my evidence. where is yours?


I suggest you go ask a preacher why wealth was never a concern of jebus on your way to asking a second question about brothers being keepers and charity to your fellow fucking man.


you might just learn something.

* 10% flat tax (consider what we pay in taxes and it's amazing how "progressives" damn churches as money-fleecing schemes but extol the supposed virtues of big government)

* No stealing.

* The man that doesn't work shall not eat.

Those aren't capitalist endorsements but no progressive could tolerate so much economic freedom and responsibility to the masses.

But in a similar vein: biblical charity is hardly an endorsement of socialism.

Perhaps, just perhaps, the authors were interestd in matters higher than public economic policy.

 

[AllieBaba]

The bible is not a blueprint for socialism. As I pointed out before this thread completely veered out of control, Shogun was just posting that as a red herring. It was stupid to even respond. Look at all the crap we've brought through the door now, with the witches and "your god" this and "your religion" that.