Pallin Is a Public Liar

[Shogun]

Slave ownership. Slaves are supposed to be happy being slaves.

uh.. WHAT? Yo mean like the slaves that the Pharaoh had? How the hell does this validate capitalism in the bible?




"Pharaoh! Let my HAPPY people go!"

 

[AllieBaba]

Because it supports class distinction.

And you'll note, the Hebrew slaves did not revolt. They were turned loose.

 

[Shogun]

"Thou shalt not steal."

"The man that does not work shall not eat."

socialists work. Who the hell do you think the proletariat is?


STEAL? Is being your brothers keeper STEALING?

I mean.. lets take another gander at what your bible says..


36For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?



OR, if you'd rather hear it from the MAN himself:



21Jesus looked at him and loved him. "One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

22At this the man's face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!"

24The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, "Children, how hard it is[e] to enter the kingdom of God! 25It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of
God."





REAL capitalist, that jebus!

 

[Shogun]

And giving away your possessions because you want to follow Christ is a little different from forcing people to distribute their wealth or get dragged into a tiny hovel and gunned down with their family and servants.

thats what YOU say.. not what your MESSIAH said.


but, hey.. this is why you pharisee christians are such a joke.

 

[AllieBaba]

Still doesn't support socialism. Because the distribution must be personal and individual.

 

[Shogun]

Hehe.
I would rep you, but I've already given out my allotted 5 or 6 or whatever the paltry allottment is....

of course you would... when scripture fails to support your laughable "slaves in the bible validate capitalism" bullshit...

 

[AllieBaba]

thats what YOU say.. not what your MESSIAH said.


but, hey.. this is why you pharisee christians are such a joke.

Actually, it is what he said. He told individuals to distribute their wealth. He didn't tell them to have armies take it.

 

[Shogun]

Because it supports class distinction.

And you'll note, the Hebrew slaves did not revolt. They were turned loose.

The OLD Testament also allowed the brutal maulings of kids who made fun of a prophets bald spot. The mass killing of cannanites (among others)... now, which TESTAMENT applies to YOU, christian?

 

[Shogun]

Still doesn't support socialism. Because the distribution must be personal and individual.

riiiiiiiiight... when JESUS says to go sell everything and give it to the poor.. thats just a suggestion to get fair market price after a 10% markup profit.






you spiritually weak bastards sure are funny.

 

[AllieBaba]

New Testament, dear.

Kindly explain how maintaining a slave class, and refusing to rebel, supports your Commie Bible theory.

 

[Shogun]

Actually, it is what he said. He told individuals to distribute their wealth. He didn't tell them to have armies take it.

he also said to give to ceasar what is ceasars because YOUR reward is heaven.. not your fucking 401k.





face it, baba.. you'd twist the bible to rationalize slavery if it meant you needed to.


SPEAKING of classes.. you sure the fuck DID see jesus validating class distinctions, didnt you?

 

[AllieBaba]

riiiiiiiiight... when JESUS says to go sell everything and give it to the poor.. thats just a suggestion to get fair market price after a 10% markup profit.






you spiritually weak bastards sure are funny.

It is a suggestion. Please show me where he advised people how they should vote or run a government?

 

[glockmail]

True. I was being devils adcovate. But where are they? Why aren't they running?

Two are currently on the GOP ticket for President.

 

[Shogun]

New Testament, dear.

Kindly explain how maintaining a slave class, and refusing to rebel, supports your Commie Bible theory.

oh.. so why do you ONLY reach for the OT thus far in your "evidence"? How many SLAVES did JESUS have? Did JESUS treat slaves any different than the rich in regards to salvation? Is there a fucking Valet at the gates of heaven for the wealtheir sort?




this never gets old.

 

[Shogun]

It is a suggestion. Please show me where he advised people how they should vote or run a government?

HAHAHAHAHAHZAHAHAHAHAHA!


YEA!


JESUS JUST MADE A SUGGESTION!



oh man THATS killing me! a SUGGESTION! "like, yo dude.. it's cool if you don't want to beleive me and all but you might check out this tract on selling all your stuff and giving to the poor if you want salvation.. uh yea..."






He DIDNT tell you to invade the politics of ceasar. THAT was the point in "giving unto ceasar". HIS message was not validation for your full frontal attack on the government while TAKING HIS NAME IN VANE TO DO IT.

 

[AllieBaba]

Is it your day off, Shogun? Are you partaking of the weed and grape?

I'll stand by for your idiotic self-congragulatory hooting that you've won an argument I never entered into, now.

 

[AllieBaba]

Oh, wait, you already did that.
Well good, we got it over. You derailed the thread with your ridiculous off-topic tirade, so you accomplished what you set out to do. What the hell was the thread about, anyway?

 

[Shogun]

Is it your day off, Shogun? Are you partaking of the weed and grape?

I'll stand by for your idiotic self-congragulatory hooting that you've won an argument I never entered into, now.

we can both talk shit, baba... I seem to be as good at deciphering your holy back as I am handing you your ass with ad hominems.


Now, did you have anything else to add to the charge that the bible is CAPITALIST and not SOCIALIST or is this just the latest of my happy fun times with your laughable faith?

 

[Shogun]

Oh, wait, you already did that.
Well good, we got it over. You derailed the thread with your ridiculous off-topic tirade, so you accomplished what you set out to do. What the hell was the thread about, anyway?

go run for the hills, baba.. When the next dipshit makes a laughable comment about the "EEEEEVIL" of socialism despite your faith i'll let you know.

 

[Clay Buster]

Hmm... did she?

I hadn't heard that... Now I know that she held oil companies to their long term agreements; agreements which were made decades ago, where they AGREED to pay royalties to the state of Alaska and that those royalties were, as was required by Alaska's constitution to be broken out amongst every citizen of Alaska... and which has been executed since the first oil company hit oil way back when.


But as I said, that is old news and I'm sure you're aware of it and that you're bringing us new information here. So if you could just post the evidence that Governor Palin EO'd a 'windfall profits tax' on big oil... we can go ahead and discuss it.

Here you go: Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

Palin Boosted Oil-Company Taxes While Alaska Had Budget Surplus
By Alison Fitzgerald

Sept. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, who has joined the Republican national ticket as a tax-cutter, was a driving force in raising a tax on oil companies last year that will help swell the state's budget surplus...

Palin, 44, proposed the tax increase Sept. 4, 2007, and called a special legislative session to pass it...

Palin's oil tax is similar to the windfall profits tax proposed by Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. McCain, 72, has criticized Obama's plan...

Under Palin's plan, called ``Alaska's Clear and Equitable Share,'' oil company profits are taxed at a 25 percent base rate, up from the previous 22.5 percent. When the price rises to $30 over cost, or about $52 a barrel, the tax rate rises 0.2 percent for each dollar.

Oil companies weren't happy with the plan when it passed.

``This massive tax increase will weaken investment in Alaska's oilfields at the very time that more investment is needed,'' Doug Suttles, president of BP Exploration Alaska Inc., said in a Dec. 27 e-mailed statement. ``We will now review all our planned activities.''

Please read the full article and then explain again how Palin is not a marxist by your definition.