Obama to Urge UN to Break up Israel

[AVG-JOE]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
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It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

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I disagree. Its none of our business what Israel does to protect their country

-Geaux

That's why I want THEM to pick a solution and get 'er done, so the world can judge them and We can move on.

What they've been doing for the last 50 years is souring quickly.

 

[JoeB131]

Too bad for you, Israel is still here and is not going anywhere. In fact, Israel will be celebrating 67 years on independence soon.

I can't tell you how much I love watching poor miserable losers like yourself squirm over the fact that Israel exists

So you going to celebrate by running over a peace activist or just bombing some children?

 

[JoeB131]

Uhhh, they held on to the Sinai just fine, and even kept it after the Yom Kippur war where Egypt tried to get it back (while fighting off 3 other countries at the same time)
It was Egypt who was forced to sign a peace treaty with Israel to get back the Sinai.

Once again, you prove that you know NOTHING about Israel.

Actually, they were only fighting Syria and Egypt, and got a pretty thorough ass-kicked in the process. Nixon had to bail them out. That should have been added to the list of impeachable things that guy did.

The Arabs then found out, "Hey, we can cut off your oil", and they've been fucking with our economy ever since.

But anyway, to get back to the point. The Sinai was undefendable. That's why Began gave it up so easily.

 

[JoeB131]

And why do they have to have anything they don't want?

Because they are increasingly becoming a pariah in the world. Because the BDS Movement is taking a toll. They've already lost Europe, the middle east hates them.

The only friend they've got in the world in the United States, specifically the stupids in Jesus-land who htink we need Israel so Jesus can come back.

 

[bgr39]

The world already accepts countries where people are considered second class citizens?

And there's about to be one less.

We should take some lessons from Israel.
That wall looks puurrrrdy impressive to me!!
THAT is the kind of wall we need on our southern border.
A coil of concertina razor wire would top it off perfectly.

 

[bgr39]

The world already accepts countries where people are considered second class citizens?

In reality, yes - on paper, no.

Attempts to codify a second class citizenry are being met with stiff resistance from the world - as it should be.

Baby steps to the stars.

Gee, maybe the "world" should start with the arab countries that prohibit anyone BUT muslims from being 1-class citizens???
How about the countries that treat women as 2nd-class citizens?
How about countries that execute all gay people?
How about a country that has stated that it is GOING to annihilate millions of innocent civilians because they are non-muslim (Iran)???
How about all the communist dictatorships that treat all their citizen, With the exception of the ruling elite, as 2nd-class citizens??
Kinda like you progressives want for the USA.
How much "mouth" and energy have you wasted on THOSE countries???????//
You ONLY bitch because it is Israel, the ONLY democracy in that region!
Why do you hate democracies soooo much?

 

[georgephillip]

Now please explain how Arab citizens inside Israel are treated like second class citizens

Where would you suggest we start?
"1948-1958: The Israeli government expropriates thousands of acres of Israeli Arab land and forcibly relocates the displaced inhabitants; Arabs also face wage and employment discrimination.

1948-1966: Arab areas in Israel are placed under the authority of a Military Administration that requires Israeli Arabs to carry special identity cards and to obtain travel permits to go from one village to another."

israel palestine conflict timeline 1948-1967

 

[bgr39]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
​

It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

​

I disagree. Its none of our business what Israel does to protect their country

-Geaux

That's why I want THEM to pick a solution and get 'er done, so the world can judge them and We can move on.

What they've been doing for the last 50 years is souring quickly.

The ONLY thing that would make the arabs "happy" would be IF the jews just marched into the Mediterranean Sea and drowned themselves.
ANYTHING short of THAT would just make the arabs demand MORE, AND MORE, until the jews are all in the Mediterranean sea.
SO, YOU want the jews to just march into the Mediterranean sea???

 

[Kondor3]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
​

It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

​

4. Expel the people living in Gaza and The West Bank, and send then across the border into Jordan and Lebanon.

 

[toastman]

Uhhh, they held on to the Sinai just fine, and even kept it after the Yom Kippur war where Egypt tried to get it back (while fighting off 3 other countries at the same time)
It was Egypt who was forced to sign a peace treaty with Israel to get back the Sinai.

Once again, you prove that you know NOTHING about Israel.

Actually, they were only fighting Syria and Egypt, and got a pretty thorough ass-kicked in the process. Nixon had to bail them out. That should have been added to the list of impeachable things that guy did.

The Arabs then found out, "Hey, we can cut off your oil", and they've been fucking with our economy ever since.

But anyway, to get back to the point. The Sinai was undefendable. That's why Began gave it up so easily.

All the U.S did was supply weapons to Israel. That's not bailing them out.

They only fought Egypt and Syria who were supported by 6 other countries with troops, weapons etc.....

Israel easily proved that they can hold on to the Sinai by NOT letting Egypt take it back through war.

"That's why Begin gave it back so easily"

Huh? Begin didn't give it back. The Sinai was offered to Egypt following the 6 day war in exchange for a peace treaty. They refused, tried to take it back by force but got their asses handed to them again. THEN they decided to sign a peace treaty with Israel.

Where do you get your history from ? Yo are full of so much lies, it's incredible.

 

[toastman]

The world already accepts countries where people are considered second class citizens?

In reality, yes - on paper, no.

Attempts to codify a second class citizenry are being met with stiff resistance from the world - as it should be.

Baby steps to the stars.

I don't see ANY resistance for the Palestinian refugees living in Jordan and Lebanon who are second class citizens.

 

[georgephillip]

We should take some lessons from Israel.
That wall looks puurrrrdy impressive to me!!
THAT is the kind of wall we need on our southern border.
A coil of concertina razor wire would top it off perfectly.

"More than 5 million Palestinians are denied equal rights by the state of Israel under a system of apartheid, a deliberate policy of racial or ethnic segregation.

"Under Israeli military occupation, millions of Palestinians live in conditions which closely resemble the apartheid system that existed in South Africa:

• No right of free speech, assembly or movement
• Arrest and imprisonment without charge or trial
• Torture
• House searches without warrant
• Assassination, extra-judicial murder
• No right to vote for the Israeli government (even though it controls their lives)"

Build your wall in Indiana.

Israel s apartheid policies against Palestinians.

 

[bgr39]

Now please explain how Arab citizens inside Israel are treated like second class citizens

Where would you suggest we start?
"1948-1958: The Israeli government expropriates thousands of acres of Israeli Arab land and forcibly relocates the displaced inhabitants; Arabs also face wage and employment discrimination.

1948-1966: Arab areas in Israel are placed under the authority of a Military Administration that requires Israeli Arabs to carry special identity cards and to obtain travel permits to go from one village to another."

israel palestine conflict timeline 1948-1967

The US does the same thing, "The government takes land from citizens and gives it to other people", specifically, land-developers".
It is called "eminent domain".
Gee, the mexicans face wage and employment discrimination in the USA.
At one time, the Irish faced wage and employment discrimination in the USA too.

 

[bgr39]

We should take some lessons from Israel.
That wall looks puurrrrdy impressive to me!!
THAT is the kind of wall we need on our southern border.
A coil of concertina razor wire would top it off perfectly.

"More than 5 million Palestinians are denied equal rights by the state of Israel under a system of apartheid, a deliberate policy of racial or ethnic segregation.

"Under Israeli military occupation, millions of Palestinians live in conditions which closely resemble the apartheid system that existed in South Africa:

• No right of free speech, assembly or movement
• Arrest and imprisonment without charge or trial
• Torture
• House searches without warrant
• Assassination, extra-judicial murder
• No right to vote for the Israeli government (even though it controls their lives)"

Build your wall in Indiana.

Israel s apartheid policies against Palestinians.

. ROTFLMFAO
YOU are talking about arabs ILLEGALLY living in Israel, or families of terrorists.
The Israeli arabs vote in Israeli elections.
Israeli arabs run for office in Israel.
Israeli arabs comprise 10% of the Israeli Parliament, the Knesset.
You need to put down those terrorists talking-points, get away from the crack-pipe, and get back to reality!!

 

[georgephillip]

Huh? Begin didn't give it back. The Sinai was offered to Egypt following the 6 day war in exchange for a peace treaty. They refused, tried to take it back by force but got their asses handed to them again. THEN they decided to sign a peace treaty with Israel.

Did you forget Sadat's offer in 1971?
"...in February 1971 Sadat offered a full peace treaty to Israel, in accord with then- official US policy -- specifically, Israeli withdrawal from the Sinai -- with scarcely even a gesture to Palestinian rights.

"Jordan followed with similar offers.

"Israel recognised that it could have full peace, but Golda Meir's Labour government chose to reject the offers in favour of expansion, then into the northeast Sinai, where Israel was driving thousands of Bedouins into the desert and destroying their villages, mosques, cemeteries, homes, in order to establish the all-Jewish city of Yamit.

"The crucial question, as always, was how the US would react. Kissinger prevailed in an internal debate, and the US adopted his policy of 'stalemate': no negotiations, only force.

"The US continued to reject -- more accurately, ignore -- Sadat's efforts to pursue a diplomatic course, backing Israel's rejectionism and expansion.

"That stance led to the 1973 War, which was a very close call for Israel and possibly the world; the US called a nuclear alert.

"By then even Kissinger understood that Egypt could not be dismissed as a basket case, and he began his 'shuttle diplomacy', leading to the Camp David meetings at which the US and Israel accepted Sadat's 1971 offer -- but now with far harsher terms, from the US-Israeli point of view.

Reshaping History by Noam Chomsky

 

[georgephillip]

The Israeli arabs vote in Israeli elections.
Israeli arabs run for office in Israel.
Israeli arabs comprise 10% of the Israeli Parliament, the Knesset

Why does Israel define itself as a Jewish state and not as a state of all its citizens?
"About 1.2 million Palestinian Israelis, who make up 20 percent, or one-fifth, of Israel’s population, have second-class citizenship within Israel, which defines itself as a Jewish state rather than a state for all its citizens.

"More than 20 provisions of Israel’s principal laws discriminate, either directly or indirectly, against non-Jews, according to Adalah: The Legal Center for Minority Rights in Israel."

Israel s apartheid policies against Palestinians.

 

[JoeB131]

4. Expel the people living in Gaza and The West Bank, and send then across the border into Jordan and Lebanon.

That would be awesome.

Then these fucks can NEVER EVER whine about the Nazis again.

ANd become an international pariah more than they already are.

 

[JoeB131]

Where do you get your history from ? Yo are full of so much lies, it's incredible.

Well, I don't folow the official "Kosher" history. The one were the Zionshits are the victims and ignore that blonde we just ran over with a bulldozer.

 

[bgr39]

The Israeli arabs vote in Israeli elections.
Israeli arabs run for office in Israel.
Israeli arabs comprise 10% of the Israeli Parliament, the Knesset

Why does Israel define itself as a Jewish state and not as a state of all its citizens?
"About 1.2 million Palestinian Israelis, who make up 20 percent, or one-fifth, of Israel’s population, have second-class citizenship within Israel, which defines itself as a Jewish state rather than a state for all its citizens.

"More than 20 provisions of Israel’s principal laws discriminate, either directly or indirectly, against non-Jews, according to Adalah: The Legal Center for Minority Rights in Israel."

Israel s apartheid policies against Palestinians.

. ROTFLMFAO
Your opinions and figures come from a anti-Israel, pro-terrorist propaganda site!!!
HELL, you might as well quote an anti-Israel, Iranian propaganda site, or an anti-jew Nazi propaganda site!!
Put down the crack pipe!!!!

 

[Kondor3]

4. Expel the people living in Gaza and The West Bank, and send then across the border into Jordan and Lebanon.

That would be awesome.

Then these fucks can NEVER EVER whine about the Nazis again.

ANd become an international pariah more than they already are.

International Pariah status will last less than a decade.

The World may best be characterized as pragmatic, and frequently indulging in Short Attention-Span Theater.

In truth, the world will breathe a sigh of relief that it is all over and that quiet has once again settled upon that ancient land.

And, given the contributions that Israel makes in medicine and the other sciences, as well as other areas, the ostracizing may not even last an entire decade.

Small price to pay, to rid themselves of that pestilence.

Much cheaper and more attractive than being exterminated.

And, meanwhile, of course, during that decade, both openly and behind the scenes, we will have their back - after January 20,2017, anyway.

And, of course, your own tax-dollar contributions to that supportive effort will be greatly appreciated.