Obama to Urge UN to Break up Israel

[JoeB131]

They can't get past this truism;

IF the arabs laid down their arms, there would be no violence. IF the jews laid down their arms, there would be no Israel.

Right. There would be no Israel.

And the world would be better off for it.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Not a single tear would come to my eye if Israel drops a nuke on the United Nations building, but it may come to that if Israel has to survive.

 

[georgephillip]

Tens of thousands of rockets fired INTO Israeli settlements, targeting innocent civilians.
Zero rockets fired FROM Israel, targeting innocent arab civilians

"Following is a list of United Nations Security Council resolutions directly critical of Israel for violations of U.N. Security Council resolutions, the U.N. Charter, the Geneva Conventions, international terrorism, or other violations of international law..."
Israeli Violations of U.N. Security Council Resolutions

 

[georgephillip]

Not a single tear would come to my eye if Israel drops a nuke on the United Nations building, but it may come to that if Israel has to survive.

How many US civilians would die in such a cowardly attack?

 

[georgephillip]

They demolish illegal structures built without permits in Israel.

They uproot olive orchards that are hundreds of years older than the Jewish state. Is that kosher?

 

[SuperDemocrat]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.

But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Um, why not? And says who?

-Geaux

The American tax payer.

Check out the 18 to 29 year old age group on this chart. Eventually, when they are in control of this nation and paying the bulk of the taxes, I think they won't pay for apartheid anymore. Already the millennials I listen to think it is a war crime. Do you pay attention to what is going on at the Universities?

Yes I do, and that's a big problem.

So the 47% of Americans who pay taxes will continue to be Jewish?

Again, who gives a rip about what the taxpayers want in Israel.

But to your point, the ones you cite in the poll who are leaning towards your solution, don't pay taxes.

-Geaux

I think if you can break it up once you can do it again until Israel is no more...diabolical.

 

[AVG-JOE]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
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It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

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Cool options. But you're aware the Palestinians don't agree with any of them. You know that...right?

Hamas says the only option is to kill all the Jews. How does that mission statement fit in with your options above? Any explanation provided should be interesting.

At this point in Time, it's irrelevant what the people living in Gaza and The West Bank want. Israel is in full control of the issue and they need to pick a solution.

Nope. It is absolutely not irrelevant. You cannot have a meaningful agreement between two parties unless both parties agree.

Kinda of simple really.

If one of the parties vows as it's mission statement to exterminate the other party it's pretty tough to reach any kind of agreement. I think any clear minded person can see that.

All true.

But in this here and this now, the Israelis have the clear upper hand militarily. The point being, they're in a position to be able to make any one of those choices and there's not a damn thing the Gazans and West Bankers could do about it, save plead with the world for help. And Israel knows that they'd get it if Israel selected door number two: Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.

Israel is scared to death of door number one, because the world will not accept a country where some of the people are legally considered 'second class citizens', and the first election after absorbing all those Muslim voters in to a society acceptable to current world norms, will render a profound and frightening change in their government.

Although, if their constitution and laws are truly democratic, all parties current vested in the landscape will leave a proportional foot-print.


I can't help but think that early 21st Century Israel is probably not what should be held up as a 'textbook example' of a democracy.

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[toastman]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
​

It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

​

Cool options. But you're aware the Palestinians don't agree with any of them. You know that...right?

Hamas says the only option is to kill all the Jews. How does that mission statement fit in with your options above? Any explanation provided should be interesting.

At this point in Time, it's irrelevant what the people living in Gaza and The West Bank want. Israel is in full control of the issue and they need to pick a solution.

Nope. It is absolutely not irrelevant. You cannot have a meaningful agreement between two parties unless both parties agree.

Kinda of simple really.

If one of the parties vows as it's mission statement to exterminate the other party it's pretty tough to reach any kind of agreement. I think any clear minded person can see that.

All true.

But in this here and this now, the Israelis have the clear upper hand militarily. The point being, they're in a position to be able to make any one of those choices and there's not a damn thing the Gazans and West Bankers could do about it, save plead with the world for help. And Israel knows that they'd get it if Israel selected door number two: Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.

Israel is scared to death of door number one, because the world will not accept a country where some of the people are legally considered 'second class citizens', and the first election after absorbing all those Muslim voters in to a society acceptable to current world norms, will render a profound and frightening change in their government.

Although, if their constitution and laws are truly democratic, all parties current vested in the landscape will leave a proportional foot-print.


I can't help but think that early 21st Century Israel is probably not what should be held up as a 'textbook example' of a democracy.

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The world already accepts countries where people are considered second class citizens?

 

[toastman]

They can't get past this truism;

IF the arabs laid down their arms, there would be no violence. IF the jews laid down their arms, there would be no Israel.

Right. There would be no Israel.

And the world would be better off for it.

Too bad for you, Israel is still here and is not going anywhere. In fact, Israel will be celebrating 67 years on independence soon.

I can't tell you how much I love watching poor miserable losers like yourself squirm over the fact that Israel exists

 

[toastman]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
​

It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

​

Israel tries number 3. Several times.

 

[georgephillip]

The world already accepts countries where people are considered second class citizens?

And there's about to be one less.

 

[toastman]

IF the Israelis DIDN'T show restraint, your map would be all white and no green on it.
If the Israelis DIDN'T show restraint in the "73" war, Cairo and Damascus would be part of Israel
The arabs should thank God that the Israelis DO show great restraint

Uh, no, it wouldn't. The reality is, the Zionists can't hold what htey have now. They had to give back the Sinai because they couldn't hold it. They also can't let go or keep the occuppied territories. They have the tiger by the tail. They can't keep holding on and the can't let go, either.

Uhhh, they held on to the Sinai just fine, and even kept it after the Yom Kippur war where Egypt tried to get it back (while fighting off 3 other countries at the same time)
It was Egypt who was forced to sign a peace treaty with Israel to get back the Sinai.

Once again, you prove that you know NOTHING about Israel.

 

[toastman]

The world already accepts countries where people are considered second class citizens?

And there's about to be one less.

Arabs are treated like second class citizens in Israel ?

 

[georgephillip]

Arabs are treated like second class citizens in Israel ?

For nearly 67 years.
Aren't you proud?

 

[toastman]

Arabs are treated like second class citizens in Israel ?

For nearly 67 years.
Aren't you proud?

Lovely propaganda photo !

Now please explain how Arab citizens inside Israel are treated like second class citizens

 

[Geaux4it]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.

But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

And why do they have to have anything they don't want?

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

And so it continues to mount

-Geaux

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The Bible warns the destiny of the World is inseparable from Israel and Jerusalem. The Bible says God would one day re-gather the children of Israel back into their land from among many nations around the world. The Bible says they would be re-gathered in unbelief ... God warns He is not re-gathering the children of Israel into their Land because they deserve it, but because His Name and His Word are at stake (see Ezekiel 36:17-23) ... and because He loves them. They are His chosen people. The Bible warns God would then make Jerusalem a world trouble spot. The Bible says all nations of the world will turn against Israel.

Bible Prophecy Israel and Jerusalem

 

[Geaux4it]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
​

It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

​

I disagree. Its none of our business what Israel does to protect their country

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.

But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Um, why not? And says who?

-Geaux

The American tax payer.

Check out the 18 to 29 year old age group on this chart. Eventually, when they are in control of this nation and paying the bulk of the taxes, I think they won't pay for apartheid anymore. Already the millennials I listen to think it is a war crime. Do you pay attention to what is going on at the Universities?

LMAO- Universities kicking out winners living at home with no job.

Not exactly the melting pot of America paying taxes

-Geaux

 

[AVG-JOE]

The world already accepts countries where people are considered second class citizens?

In reality, yes - on paper, no.

Attempts to codify a second class citizenry are being met with stiff resistance from the world - as it should be.

Baby steps to the stars.