Obama to Urge UN to Break up Israel

[georgephillip]

They can't get past this truism;

IF the arabs laid down their arms, there would be no violence. IF the jews laid down their arms, there would be no Israel.

Because it isn't true.
Jew and Arab lived in relative peace in Palestine before the British decided to inflict a "Jewish homeland" in Palestine. When Jews stop using their arms to steal Arab land and water in Palestine, Arabs will stop resisting.

 

[Slyhunter]

They can't get past this truism;

IF the arabs laid down their arms, there would be no violence. IF the jews laid down their arms, there would be no Israel.

Because it isn't true.
Jew and Arab lived in relative peace in Palestine before the British decided to inflict a "Jewish homeland" in Palestine. When Jews stop using their arms to steal Arab land and water in Palestine, Arabs will stop resisting.

You mean as long as the Jew knew his place.

 

[Skylar]

IF the Israelis DIDN'T show restraint, your map would be all white and no green on it.
If the Israelis DIDN'T show restraint in the "73" war, Cairo and Damascus would be part of Israel
The arabs should thank God that the Israelis DO show great restraint

Uh, no, it wouldn't. The reality is, the Zionists can't hold what htey have now. They had to give back the Sinai because they couldn't hold it. They also can't let go or keep the occuppied territories. They have the tiger by the tail. They can't keep holding on and the can't let go, either.

They could annex the territory. Its actually an idea that has some support in the west bank. It solves the territory problem.

Alas, Israelies want the land. Not the people. And thus eternal occupation.

 

[bgr39]

There are a few hundred thousand arabs that live in Israel and the majority live in peace with the jews.

That's because racist Jews use "admissions committees" to exclude Palestinians from living in hundreds of segregated communities, often built on land expropriated from Palestinians.

Does that sound like "apartheid" to you?

They keep out arabs that want to kill jews, THAT is common-sense, no apartheid there!!!
The Israeli arabs vote, can run for office, get elected.
, There are 10% arabs in the Knesset.
No apartheid there, either.
Just keep deluding yourself, it makes you terrorists sympathizers look even MORE dumber than you are ...................IF THAT IS POSSIBLE!!!

 

[georgephillip]

You mean as long as the Jew knew his place.

I mean Jews are not entitled to bulldoze Arab homes in order to steal the land and water of their neighbors. Do you believe Jews are Chosen?
"Homes Demolished in Israel and Palestine
0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians,
and over 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967."
Israeli and Palestinian Homes Demolished since September 29 2000

 

[WelfareQueen]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
​

It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

​

Cool options. But you're aware the Palestinians don't agree with any of them. You know that...right?

Hamas says the only option is to kill all the Jews. How does that mission statement fit in with your options above? Any explanation provided should be interesting.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Well true. The simple fact is if Muslims dropped their guns, instant world peace (relatively). If Israel drops her weapons, no more Israel.

Radical Islam is bound and determined to convert the world to their version of Islam. That, has been made abundantly clear. Israel has never declared or displayed any intention to convert the world to Judaism.

Yet the fucking left, who supposedly care about the oppressed, the abused, and those who murder gays and they supposedly stand for women's rights, back the dirty filthy sandniggers who do all of those things.


Liberalism is not a mental disorder. It is a fucked up dangerous mental disorder.

"sandniggers" (your term, not mine)

And you are a Christian? Really?

Wow....

On one point, however, you are essentially correct, I think, little bitty owl, namely, that were Israel to put down it's weapons, it would be immediately invaded.

You love to make this a Left-Right thing. It is much more complex than that. Oh, well, maybe your mind just cannot process those thoughts.

I mean, how bright are owls, generally?

This from the guy who repeatedly called the Prophet Mohammad a pedophile.

What a hypocritical douchebag.

 

[georgephillip]

They keep out arabs that want to kill jews, THAT is common-sense, no apartheid there!!!
The Israeli arabs vote, can run for office, get elected.

Why can't those Israeli Arabs live next door to Jews?

 

[georgephillip]

No apartheid there, either.
Just keep deluding yourself, it makes you terrorists sympathizers look even MORE dumber than you are ...................IF THAT IS POSSIBLE!!!

What's your definition of "apartheid", Einstein?
Here's mine:
"(Apartheid) applies to acts 'committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them.'

"Denying those others the right to life and liberty, subjecting them to arbitrary arrest, expropriating their property, depriving them of the right to leave and return to their country or the right to freedom of movement and of residence, creating separate reserves and ghettos for the members of different racial groups, preventing mixed marriages — these are all examples of the crime of apartheid specifically mentioned in the convention."
Or do you have a Zionist interpretation?
Does the term apos apartheid apos fit Israel Of course it does. - LA Times

 

[Slyhunter]

You mean as long as the Jew knew his place.

I mean Jews are not entitled to bulldoze Arab homes in order to steal the land and water of their neighbors. Do you believe Jews are Chosen?
"Homes Demolished in Israel and Palestine
0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians,
and over 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967."
Israeli and Palestinian Homes Demolished since September 29 2000

Why would Palestinians be allowed to demolish homes in Israel?
You need to count the numbers of Jews killed in Syria, Palestine, Iran, etc.

 

[Slyhunter]

Well true. The simple fact is if Muslims dropped their guns, instant world peace (relatively). If Israel drops her weapons, no more Israel.

Radical Islam is bound and determined to convert the world to their version of Islam. That, has been made abundantly clear. Israel has never declared or displayed any intention to convert the world to Judaism.

Yet the fucking left, who supposedly care about the oppressed, the abused, and those who murder gays and they supposedly stand for women's rights, back the dirty filthy sandniggers who do all of those things.


Liberalism is not a mental disorder. It is a fucked up dangerous mental disorder.

"sandniggers" (your term, not mine)

And you are a Christian? Really?

Wow....

On one point, however, you are essentially correct, I think, little bitty owl, namely, that were Israel to put down it's weapons, it would be immediately invaded.

You love to make this a Left-Right thing. It is much more complex than that. Oh, well, maybe your mind just cannot process those thoughts.

I mean, how bright are owls, generally?

This from the guy who repeatedly called the Prophet Mohammad a pedophile.

What a hypocritical douchebag.

Didn't he fuck a 9 year old?
Isn't that the definition of a pedophile?
So what is your point?

 

[AVG-JOE]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
​

It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

​

Cool options. But you're aware the Palestinians don't agree with any of them. You know that...right?

Hamas says the only option is to kill all the Jews. How does that mission statement fit in with your options above? Any explanation provided should be interesting.

At this point in Time, it's irrelevant what the people living in Gaza and The West Bank want. Israel is in full control of the issue and they need to pick a solution.

 

[WelfareQueen]

At some point, the zionists are either going to have to have a two-state solution, or they are going to have to live in a state where Jews are in the minority.
But they can't go on being an apartheid state forever.

Indeed.
The choices are three:

1. Absorb the people living in Gaza and The West Bank into Israeli society.
2. Annihilate the people living in Gaza and The West Bank.
3. Free the people living in Gaza and The West Bank to pursue their own destiny.
​

It's way past time for Israel to poop or get off the pot - this decades old war of attrition is REALLY getting old.

​

Cool options. But you're aware the Palestinians don't agree with any of them. You know that...right?

Hamas says the only option is to kill all the Jews. How does that mission statement fit in with your options above? Any explanation provided should be interesting.

At this point in Time, it's irrelevant what the people living in Gaza and The West Bank want. Israel is in full control of the issue and they need to pick a solution.

Nope. It is absolutely not irrelevant. You cannot have a meaningful agreement between two parties unless both parties agree.

Kinda of simple really.

If one of the parties vows as it's mission statement to exterminate the other party it's pretty tough to reach any kind of agreement. I think any clear minded person can see that.

 

[Liminal]

So, since Obama and his goons couldn't put in a pro Muslim leader in Israel, he's going to the UN now in hopes they can force a deal between Palestine and Israel

Anyone who thinks Obama is not pro Arab is completely beyond hope

-Geaux
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The White House hoped a new Israeli prime minister would resume peace talks with the Palestinians. With Netanyahu holding on, the administration is weighing a turn to the U.N. to help force a deal.

After years of blocking U.N. efforts to pressure Israelis and Palestinians into accepting a lasting two-state solution, the United States is edging closer toward supporting a U.N. Security Council resolution that would call for the resumption of political talks to conclude a final peace settlement, according to Western diplomats.

From Tel Aviv to Turtle Bay Foreign Policy

How does an imaginary scenario like this become a topic of political discussion? As though anyone would take it seriously.

 

[Skylar]

So, since Obama and his goons couldn't put in a pro Muslim leader in Israel, he's going to the UN now in hopes they can force a deal between Palestine and Israel

Anyone who thinks Obama is not pro Arab is completely beyond hope

-Geaux
------------------

The White House hoped a new Israeli prime minister would resume peace talks with the Palestinians. With Netanyahu holding on, the administration is weighing a turn to the U.N. to help force a deal.

After years of blocking U.N. efforts to pressure Israelis and Palestinians into accepting a lasting two-state solution, the United States is edging closer toward supporting a U.N. Security Council resolution that would call for the resumption of political talks to conclude a final peace settlement, according to Western diplomats.

From Tel Aviv to Turtle Bay Foreign Policy

How does an imaginary scenario like this become a topic of political discussion? As though anyone would take it seriously.

Among the ignorant or the emotional, the issue feels real. Even if the entire premise is hopelessly imaginary.

 

[bgr39]

You mean as long as the Jew knew his place.

I mean Jews are not entitled to bulldoze Arab homes in order to steal the land and water of their neighbors. Do you believe Jews are Chosen?
"Homes Demolished in Israel and Palestine
0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians,
and over 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967."
Israeli and Palestinian Homes Demolished since September 29 2000

* Tens of thousands of rockets fired INTO Israeli settlements, targeting innocent civilians.
Zero rockets fired FROM Israel, targeting innocent arab civilians.
.
*Fired by arab terrorists, since 1967

 

[georgephillip]

Why would Palestinians be allowed to demolish homes in Israel?

Why are Jews allowed to demolish homes in Palestine, are they Chosen?

 

[georgephillip]

You need to count the numbers of Jews killed in Syria, Palestine, Iran, etc.

What's your number?

"Israelis and Palestinians Killed
in the Current Violence
At least 1,195 Israelis and 9,128 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000."

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9 29 2000

 

[Slyhunter]

Why would Palestinians be allowed to demolish homes in Israel?

Why are Jews allowed to demolish homes in Palestine, are they Chosen?

They demolish illegal structures built without permits in Israel.

 

[Liminal]

Why would Palestinians be allowed to demolish homes in Israel?

Why are Jews allowed to demolish homes in Palestine, are they Chosen?

They demolish illegal structures built without permits in Israel.

They also demolish the ancient ancestral homes of Palestinian Christians, when they get in the way of new Jewish settlements.