What should be the borders of Israel and Palestine?

[Toddsterpatriot]

The European Jews were given land. But, they were not given

The Arabs weren't given Samaria, East Jerusalem or Gaza.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Samaria, East Jerusalem or Gaza are the fruits of war, as the Arabs well know and have failed at least four times to take.

That is decided and over.

Israel need to declare the Nation State of Greater Israe and make Jerusalem its capitol.

 

[Shusha]

The European Jews were given land. But, they were not given Samaria, East Jerusalem , the Golan Heights or Gaza.

The Jewish people were recognized as having an inherent right to self-determination, to resettlement, and to re-constitute their nation in their historic homeland (then labelled the Mandate of Palestine). There are no restrictions to or limitations on the Jewish sovereign rights to this territory. Jordan and Egypt have since recognized these rights in peace treaties confirming secure and recognized boundaries.

 

[surada]

States can not acquire territory by aggression or use of force. This applies to equally to all States. The 1949 Armistice Line was created as a direct result of aggression and use of force. It therefore can not be used as a basis for claiming sovereignty.

The irony of this argument is that the prohibition against the acquisition of territory by force is used against Israel, while being a perfectly suitable method for acquiring territory by Arabs.

What lands have the Arabs taken since 1900?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What lands have the Arabs taken since 1900?

Exactly!
Now let's take back more of the lands they seized before 1900.

 

[surada]

Samaria, East Jerusalem or Gaza are the fruits of war, as the Arabs well know and have failed at least four times to take.

That is decided and over.

Israel need to declare the Nation State of Greater Israe and make Jerusalem its capitol.

International law forbids colonizing occupied lands. That's why we chased Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait.

 

[surada]

Exactly!
Not let's take back more of the lands they seized before 1900.

What land was that?

 

[Shusha]

What lands have the Arabs taken since 1900?

"Arabs" is not a State. The States of Jordan and Egypt attempted to acquire Israeli territory by force. This has since been resolved and Jordan and Egypt have renounced all claims to the territory (rightly, since they never had any claim to the territory in the first place).

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What land was that?

Most of the Middle East and Northern Africa outside of Arabia.

 

[Failzero]

No needs to prove any thing to Elmer or Dayton.

History is clear Euro-Americans assisted by indigenous peoples and blacks took the country from the inhabitants, indigenous and Mexican.

That is not going to change.: Recoquesta is not gonna be easy

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Of course not.

 

[Billo_Really]

The UN has little to do with "peace"

The UN has everything to do with peace!

Israel, on the other hand, does not want peace. Israel does not value human life. Israel is a pariah state and a cancer to this planet.

 

[Billo_Really]

States can not acquire territory by aggression or use of force. This applies to equally to all States. The 1949 Armistice Line was created as a direct result of aggression and use of force. It therefore can not be used as a basis for claiming sovereignty.

The irony of this argument is that the prohibition against the acquisition of territory by force is used against Israel, while being a perfectly suitable method for acquiring territory by Arabs.

You just keep making shit up to further your tyrannical hold on the Palestinians.

 

[Billo_Really]

That's not Hamas. Only Greater Israel is a nation state there.

Hamas has its issues, but Israel is the bigger villain against peace.

 

[westwall]

In all seriousity...

Wipe out all the Mosques, Synagogues, and Churches
Imprison or kill all the religious leaders on all sides
Forbid the teaching or preaching of any religion
Then just erase those imaginary lines.

Ahhhh yes, the leftist mantra, kill everyone, and destroy everything.

You "people" are deranged.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Hamas is the great villian in this drama, and it will be a loser, second only to Palestinians.

 

[Dadoalex]

Ahhhh yes, the leftist mantra, kill everyone, and destroy everything.

You "people" are deranged.

Never said that.
But why stop lying now, right LIAR?

Oh and since when do churches, synagogues, and temples constitute "everything?"
Hyperbole just ain't your strong suit sparkless.

 

[Shusha]

You just keep making shit up to further your tyrannical hold on the Palestinians.

Which sentence of mine is made up?

The one about acquiring territory by force? That is your favorite argument for why Israel isn't entitled to territory.

The one about applying law equally to every State? Are you claiming that Jews should have different laws applied to them?

The one about how the 1949 Armistice lines were created as a result of aggression by Egypt and Jordan into territory that they didn't have sovereignty over?

You retreat behind your rude accusations when you are unable to address my arguments.

 

[westwall]

Never said that.
But why stop lying now, right LIAR?

Oh and since when do churches, synagogues, and temples constitute "everything?"
Hyperbole just ain't your strong suit sparkless.

Sure you did. And I memorialized it for all to see.

Suck it up buttercup.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Who attacked who on 7 October, mass murdering 1400 civilians, three hundred of them concert goers in three hours?

Billo, if you can't offer anything of worth, sit down and shut up.

Both sides went to war in 1948, the Arabs quite willing to do so, the Arabs lost, and have every time since.

That will not change. The US will not allow the UN to interfere. Neither Biden nor Trump will back the Arabs.