Obama Had His Records Sealed.....Isn't That Influencing An Election???

[deanrd]

I don't care about Trump's high school transcripts.

 

[MisterBeale]

a fact many sheep here are ignorant about same as they are he was born in kenya.

I'm not sure that he was. Nor am I sure that he wasn't.

Where ever he was, the CIA will make sure that fact is obfuscated for their own purposes. They want folks in the US to believe he was, and folks in Africa and other Muslim nations to believe otherwise, obviously.

Likewise, if they can keep people divided on the issue, it weakens the nation, that works to the advantage of the folks that are really in control. So having salt of the earth folks argue about something so trivial, since he is just a pawn, is dumb, IMOH.

There's as much evidence that Obama was born in orbit as there is evidence he was born in Kenya.

While his birth in Hawaii has been affirmed by Hawaii repeatedly. Don't let disinformation campaigns confuse on you rather simple issues.

Okay. You believe what you want, and leave others to be wise to what is going on.

CIA influence on public opinion - Wikipedia

I'm gonna go with the evidence. And the evidence is all on one side of this issue.

If you accept the evidence. The evidence is janky.

 

[Skylar]

a fact many sheep here are ignorant about same as they are he was born in kenya.

I'm not sure that he was. Nor am I sure that he wasn't.

Where ever he was, the CIA will make sure that fact is obfuscated for their own purposes. They want folks in the US to believe he was, and folks in Africa and other Muslim nations to believe otherwise, obviously.

Likewise, if they can keep people divided on the issue, it weakens the nation, that works to the advantage of the folks that are really in control. So having salt of the earth folks argue about something so trivial, since he is just a pawn, is dumb, IMOH.

There's as much evidence that Obama was born in orbit as there is evidence he was born in Kenya.

While his birth in Hawaii has been affirmed by Hawaii repeatedly. Don't let disinformation campaigns confuse on you rather simple issues.

Okay. You believe what you want, and leave others to be wise to what is going on.

CIA influence on public opinion - Wikipedia

I'm gonna go with the evidence. And the evidence is all on one side of this issue.

If you accept the evidence. The evidence is janky.

The State of Hawaii has affirmed Obama's place of birth as Hawaii repeatedly. Twice in court.

And of course, there's zero evidence he was born anywhere else. Even the story behind the birther conspiracy is stupid. A teen aged high school student with no money flies halfway around the world to Mombassa in 1961, travels 400 miles west, half of it on dirt roads to have her baby in rural west Kenya, only to turn around and drive 400 miles back to Mombassa, this time with a new born infant, fly all the way back to Hawaii with the same infant....with no record of her travel or the birth anywhere in Kenya.

Then this high school student has birth certificates forged, birth announcements in the local paper forged, hospital records forged, and has the State of Hawaii and Republican Governor Linda Lingle join the conspiracy that spanned nearly 50 years.

Or.....

....this girl is driven by her mother to the hospital a dozen miles from her house where she had her baby.

Not only is the evidence on once side of this issue issue, so is Occam's Razor. With the conspiracy version being silly and rather stupid.

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm not sure that he was. Nor am I sure that he wasn't.

Where ever he was, the CIA will make sure that fact is obfuscated for their own purposes. They want folks in the US to believe he was, and folks in Africa and other Muslim nations to believe otherwise, obviously.

Likewise, if they can keep people divided on the issue, it weakens the nation, that works to the advantage of the folks that are really in control. So having salt of the earth folks argue about something so trivial, since he is just a pawn, is dumb, IMOH.

There's as much evidence that Obama was born in orbit as there is evidence he was born in Kenya.

While his birth in Hawaii has been affirmed by Hawaii repeatedly. Don't let disinformation campaigns confuse on you rather simple issues.

Okay. You believe what you want, and leave others to be wise to what is going on.

CIA influence on public opinion - Wikipedia

I'm gonna go with the evidence. And the evidence is all on one side of this issue.

If you accept the evidence. The evidence is janky.

The State of Hawaii has affirmed Obama's place of birth as Hawaii repeatedly. Twice in court.

And of course, there's zero evidence he was born anywhere else. Even the story behind the birther conspiracy is stupid. A teen aged high school student with no money flies halfway around the world to Mombassa in 1961, travels 400 miles west, half of it on dirt roads to have her baby in rural west Kenya, only to turn around and drive 400 miles back to Mombassa, this time with a new born infant, fly all the way back to Hawaii with the same infant....with no record of her travel or the birth anywhere in Kenya.

Then this high school student has birth certificates forged, birth announcements in the local paper forged, hospital records forged, and has the State of Hawaii and Republican Governor Linda Lingle join the conspiracy that spanned nearly 50 years.

Or.....

....this girl is driven by her mother to the hospital a dozen miles from her house where she had her baby.

Not only is the evidence on once side of this issue issue, so is Occam's Razor. With the conspiracy version being silly and rather stupid.

Like I said, I don't believe the other side either. I'm not arguing for the birther conspiracy, you don't need to convince me man.

I'm just telling you, they have never released a hard copy of the Birth Certificate, and an electronic analysis of the electronic copy showed it was bogus. That is all I have read.

Everything else, we are just going by a "he said, she said" type deal, where everyone just chooses to believe whatever partisan or institution they like that makes their world view feel most assuaged.

I'm not taking a side here.

 

[Skylar]

There's as much evidence that Obama was born in orbit as there is evidence he was born in Kenya.

While his birth in Hawaii has been affirmed by Hawaii repeatedly. Don't let disinformation campaigns confuse on you rather simple issues.

Okay. You believe what you want, and leave others to be wise to what is going on.

CIA influence on public opinion - Wikipedia

I'm gonna go with the evidence. And the evidence is all on one side of this issue.

If you accept the evidence. The evidence is janky.

The State of Hawaii has affirmed Obama's place of birth as Hawaii repeatedly. Twice in court.

And of course, there's zero evidence he was born anywhere else. Even the story behind the birther conspiracy is stupid. A teen aged high school student with no money flies halfway around the world to Mombassa in 1961, travels 400 miles west, half of it on dirt roads to have her baby in rural west Kenya, only to turn around and drive 400 miles back to Mombassa, this time with a new born infant, fly all the way back to Hawaii with the same infant....with no record of her travel or the birth anywhere in Kenya.

Then this high school student has birth certificates forged, birth announcements in the local paper forged, hospital records forged, and has the State of Hawaii and Republican Governor Linda Lingle join the conspiracy that spanned nearly 50 years.

Or.....

....this girl is driven by her mother to the hospital a dozen miles from her house where she had her baby.

Not only is the evidence on once side of this issue issue, so is Occam's Razor. With the conspiracy version being silly and rather stupid.

Like I said, I don't believe the other side either. I'm not arguing for the birther conspiracy, you don't need to convince me man.

I'm just telling you, they have never released a hard copy of the Birth Certificate, and an electronic analysis of the electronic copy showed it was bogus. That is all I have read.

Everything else, we are just going by a "he said, she said" type deal, where everyone just chooses to believe whatever partisan or institution they like that makes their world view feel most assuaged.

I'm not taking a side here.

The evidence most definitely takes a side. There's no 'he said, she said' situation. The definitative authority on the original vital records held by Hawaii....is Hawaii. And they've affirmed repeated and twice in court, that Obama was born in Hawaii.

The 'other side' is both fact free....and just dumb. Its 'story' is a fantastically complicated, wildly complex, stupidly elaborate international conspiracy spanning half a century and backed by nothing.

Ignoring evidence or balancing evidence with fantasy isn't skepticism.

 

[candycorn]

There's as much evidence that Obama was born in orbit as there is evidence he was born in Kenya.

While his birth in Hawaii has been affirmed by Hawaii repeatedly. Don't let disinformation campaigns confuse on you rather simple issues.

Okay. You believe what you want, and leave others to be wise to what is going on.

CIA influence on public opinion - Wikipedia

I'm gonna go with the evidence. And the evidence is all on one side of this issue.

If you accept the evidence. The evidence is janky.

The State of Hawaii has affirmed Obama's place of birth as Hawaii repeatedly. Twice in court.

And of course, there's zero evidence he was born anywhere else. Even the story behind the birther conspiracy is stupid. A teen aged high school student with no money flies halfway around the world to Mombassa in 1961, travels 400 miles west, half of it on dirt roads to have her baby in rural west Kenya, only to turn around and drive 400 miles back to Mombassa, this time with a new born infant, fly all the way back to Hawaii with the same infant....with no record of her travel or the birth anywhere in Kenya.

Then this high school student has birth certificates forged, birth announcements in the local paper forged, hospital records forged, and has the State of Hawaii and Republican Governor Linda Lingle join the conspiracy that spanned nearly 50 years.

Or.....

....this girl is driven by her mother to the hospital a dozen miles from her house where she had her baby.

Not only is the evidence on once side of this issue issue, so is Occam's Razor. With the conspiracy version being silly and rather stupid.

Like I said, I don't believe the other side either. I'm not arguing for the birther conspiracy, you don't need to convince me man.

I'm just telling you, they have never released a hard copy of the Birth Certificate, and an electronic analysis of the electronic copy showed it was bogus. That is all I have read.

Everything else, we are just going by a "he said, she said" type deal, where everyone just chooses to believe whatever partisan or institution they like that makes their world view feel most assuaged.

I'm not taking a side here.

No such analysis exists.

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm not going to go over it, we already had a thread on it. I don't care.

 

[candycorn]

I'm not going to go over it, we already had a thread on it. I don't care.

ok

 

[HaShev]

1) still no answer and no clue that my post is not about the archives the post context was about the MSM telling people certain archives were sealed and this occured after the question about Sergey Kislyak visiting 22 times a big whopping uh oh moment for Obama. In other words my post is about Obama/Dems/ Feds hiding info from people about the visits, so as to not conjur up the implications and cause investigation/subpoenas on what conversations took place email, phone records etc.
Notice the investigation IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT RUSSIA MEDDLING AND COLLUSION PRIMARILLY THROUGH THE dodgy fisa which included using Sergey Kislyak to help the Dems cheat an election through spying on the party's opponent. We already have admission by Farkas and in the FBI investigation during testimony that Obama asked to be informed about everything taking place regarding Trump and this investigation, even though in an interview he swore seperation from the Agencies (he lied -what else is new).
This is why he should have his security clearance removed.
2)Therefore we find political bias that this phoney Russia concern has no subpoenas for Obama emails and correspondances phone records etc, there's no charges or investigation if he was 1 of the source leakers. There's bo investigation of his ties and orders or favors from Sergey Kislyak thus his collusion with Russia. Hence this isn't about Russia, this is a silent or soft coup plain and simple.
3)This is why you avoid the prenise of this post, itcs bot about the archive it's about the reasoning behind your bot being able to tell us his visitors in his log and why he suddenly did a 180 and chose to seal specific stuff.
If itcs not sealed you had plenty of time to answer my question yet you chose ad hominem responses instead.
If you think Sergey Kislyak is no big deal in the full scale of things then prove it by writing your Senators and reos to bring him back for questioning and deliver even standards in investigation through subpoenas of Obama and DNC emails and phone records and what took place at those 22 visits to the WH.
You refuse to or canct prove you did makes you 1) "egg on your face"
2)pathelogical liar like when you know I joked about the download being spyware-duh, but took the low road to avoid the problematic Sergey Kislyak issue.

 

[Skylar]

1) still no answer and no clue that my post is not about the archives the post context was about the MSM telling people certain archives were sealed and this occured after the question about Sergey Kislyak visiting 22 times a big whopping uh oh moment for Obama. In other words my post is about Obama/Dems/ Feds hiding info from people about the vusits so as to not conhur up the implications and cause investigation/subpoenas on what conversations took place email, phone records etc.
Notice the investigation IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT RUSSIA MEDDLING AND COLLUSION PRIMARILLY THROUGH THE dodgy fisa which included using Sergey Kislyak to help the Dems cheat an election through spying on the party's opponent. We already have admission by Farkas and in the FBI investigation during testimony that Obama asked to be informed about everything taking place regarding Trump and this investigation, even though in an interview he swore seperation from the Agencies (he lied -what else is new).
This is why he should have his security clearance removed.
2)Therefore we find political bias that this phoney Russia concern has no subpoenas for Obama emails and correspondances phone records etc, there's no charges or investigation if he was 1 of the source leakers. There's bo investigation of his ties and orders or favors from Sergey Kislyak thus his collusion with Russia. Hence this isn't about Russia, this is a silent or soft coup plain and simple.
3)This is why you avoid the prenise of this post, itcs bot about the archive it's about the reasoning behind your bot being able to tell us his visitors in his log and why he suddenly did a 180 and chose to seal specific stuff.
If itcs not sealed you had plenty of time to answer my question yet you chose ad hominem responses instead.
If you think Sergey Kislyak is no big deal in the full scale of things then prove it by writing your Senators and reos to bring him back for questioning and deliver even standards in investigation through subpoenas of Obama and DNC emails and phone records and what took place at those 22 visits to the WH.
You refuse to or canct prove you did makes you 1) "egg on your face"
2)pathelogical liar like when you know I joked about the download being spyware-duh, but took the low road to avoid the problematic Sergey Kislyak issue.

And in all that.......you never once even reviewed the very records you laughably insisted are 'sealed'.

White House Visitor Records

For everyone who isn't polishing a debunked conspiracy turd, there are the visitors log. Anyone can download them all by hitting the 'download' button if they have excel (or presumably, google docs). Or look at them by year in zip format.

 

[HaShev]

Then post your findings or be outted as a liar, because you can't, enough said.

By the way why do you hate and harass & stalk mentally handicaped people? you and Faun keep calling people handicap yet enjoy harrassing those you call challenged.
What is wrong with your hate for opponent political views that you'd go that far to kick a cripple sort of speak?

 

[Skylar]

Then post your findings or be outtrd as a liar, you can't, enough said.

By the way why do you had mentally handicaped people? you and Faun kerp calling people handicap yet enjoy harrassing those you call challenged.
What is wrong with your hate for oppobent political views that you'd go that far to kick a cripple sort of speak?

I have posted my findings:

White House Visitor Records

There are the records you said were 'sealed'. Publicly available for anyone to review.

Shrugs......So much for your latest batshit conspiracy.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

I'm just asking......

It is, but it’s not illegal. Paying off a porn Star, as Trump did, is an attempt to influence an election, but it’s not illegal either.

Explain how the absence of information influences anything.
You can say without a doubt that 95% negative coverage by the media does influence the election, right?
I mean, let's get realistic here.

Dude, come on. Imagine if when you voted between 2 candidates the only info you got was a picture of each canidate. Lack of info can be as influential as info.

Lack of info doesn't influence anyone.....other than influence them to vote for the candidate they know about.
I just find it strange how you leftists don't want anyone to influence the election.....then blindly accept the media influencing our elections.

Sorry you haven’t read many of my post. I’m a conservative, but not a Republican. I’ll let it slide.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't care about Trump's high school transcripts.

I want to find out what he did to get sent to Military School

Even his own parents couldn’t stand him

 

[mudwhistle]

I don't care about Trump's high school transcripts.

Obviously this has influenced the election in the Democrats favor.

 

[Faun]

This is what Pinochio said in 2010 about being transparent:
White House visitor logs voluntarily released, with potential for exceptions
"For the first time in history, my administration posts our White House visitors online."
— Barack Obama on Wednesday, January 27th 2010 in a State of the Union speech
One WH log archive site no longer exists, it's now a link to salaries and ethics,
This is the archive missing the WH logs it's supposed to have in these links
Archived Presidential White House Websites
If you can't find the answer to the log question then you have egg on your face and owe everyone an apology and have to wear a red "Make America Great Again hat" so you can see how tolerant your liberal buddies are.

*let the excuses begin*

The White House website changes with each new president. Go bitch to Trump for why he had the page with the logs taken down.

I already showed you where they said in earlier years it would be online and I already told you they decided to archive seal it after (2017 I believe) as it became problematic with the outting of a few names even you are avoiding. That is why you can't find it on the archive of earlier presidents. I gave you the link and it has nothing to do with present administration who is doing what Obama did in sealing WH logs and saying so publically which becomes another source proof of what I'm telling you.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL, I WAS RIGHT AND your frail human ego can't admit being wrong. Damn it's like watching the Fonz admit he's wrong, except you're wearing a black hoody and members only jacket instead.

”...they decided to archive seal it after (2017 I believe) as it became problematic...”

You dumbfucking imbecile. I tell you Trump is the one who would have had it taken down, not Obama, and what do you do? You prove me right by pointing out it was taken down after 2017.

Who was president then?

 

[Faun]

is no longer updated and links to external websites and some internal pages may not work."

Then it says: "File was too large or unavailable for preview."

That the files are too big to preview in your browser means to view them, you have to download them first and open them with an appropriate application.

It doesn’t mean they are sealed.

Dayum, you rightards are astonishingly stupid.

 

[Faun]

*Lol* when you go to the home page of Skylars link it says on the very top
"This is historical material “frozen in time”. The website is no longer updated and links to external websites and some internal pages may not work."
View attachment 212770

Of course the Obama White House archives are no longer updated.

He’s no longer president, you raving lunatic. He has no new White House records to be added.

 

[Skylar]

I don't care about Trump's high school transcripts.

Obviously this has influenced the election in the Democrats favor.

And you never did answer me, Oh Batshit One...

Are you referring to non-public records as 'sealed'? If so, you may want to rethink that.

 

[HaShev]

This is what Pinochio said in 2010 about being transparent:
White House visitor logs voluntarily released, with potential for exceptions
"For the first time in history, my administration posts our White House visitors online."
— Barack Obama on Wednesday, January 27th 2010 in a State of the Union speech
One WH log archive site no longer exists, it's now a link to salaries and ethics,
This is the archive missing the WH logs it's supposed to have in these links
Archived Presidential White House Websites
If you can't find the answer to the log question then you have egg on your face and owe everyone an apology and have to wear a red "Make America Great Again hat" so you can see how tolerant your liberal buddies are.

*let the excuses begin*

The White House website changes with each new president. Go bitch to Trump for why he had the page with the logs taken down.

I already showed you where they said in earlier years it would be online and I already told you they decided to archive seal it after (2017 I believe) as it became problematic with the outting of a few names even you are avoiding. That is why you can't find it on the archive of earlier presidents. I gave you the link and it has nothing to do with present administration who is doing what Obama did in sealing WH logs and saying so publically which becomes another source proof of what I'm telling you.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL, I WAS RIGHT AND your frail human ego can't admit being wrong. Damn it's like watching the Fonz admit he's wrong, except you're wearing a black hoody and members only jacket instead.

”...they decided to archive seal it after (2017 I believe) as it became problematic...”

You dumbfucking imbecile. I tell you Trump is the one who would have had it taken down, not Obama, and what do you do? You prove me right by pointing out it was taken down after 2017.

Who was president then?

Has nothing to do with Trump, some archive stuff exists as all presidents have links andbif you research you'll find the comments about partial archives available not all and Trump blasting him for it and saying then he will use that rule to hide his WH logs from fake news narratives of course for other obvious necessary reasons then why Obama did it. Trump did it in defense of this abusive power while Obama did it as hiding his abuses.