I Thought the Bragg Case Against Trump Was a Legal Embarrassment. Now I Think It’s a Historic Mistake.

[Marener]

Her ruling was appealed, and then Clinton settled. Those the ruling was not the final order.

Try to keep up.

Doesn't change the fact that the case was dismissed on it's merits.

 

[kyzr]

Current score

Trump 57 Democrats 0 with 34 (Bragg) counts to be decided.

Based on the assumption that the "immunity case" will postpone Smith's and Letitia's cases until after November.

 

[struth]

Doesn't change the fact that the case was dismissed on it's merits.

Actually it does, once it’s appealed it’s still alive

The fact is clinton didn’t want to take the risk of being found liable and settled out of court

 

[JoeB131]

It was a sexual harassment lawsuit.

So how was a consensual relationship relevant to that?

It wasn't, and that is how Judge Weber-Wright ruled.

Then she dismissed the whole lawsuit without merit because it didn't meet the legal definition under the Federal Statue (Jones was not a direct report to Clinton, nor did she suffer any negative job action.)

That what the charges of perjury were about. If you doubt me, look it up for yourself.

Except it wasn't perjury if he didn't consider a blow job to be sex.

 

[JoeB131]

The case was settled out of Court by Clinton. It was not dismissed on it's merits. There was a settlement

Are you fucking retarded.

Judge Weber Wright dismissed the case on April 1st, 1998.

The case was dead in the water.

Clinton paid Jones off not to file appeals. (Or his insurance company did). Her lawyers snapped up the deal because they hadn't been paid, and Jones got jack squat. It's why she's spent the last 25 years whoring herself out to pay off all those legal bills for a case she probably never wanted to be part of to start with.

 

[Marener]

Actually it does, once it’s appealed it’s still alive

The fact is clinton didn’t want to take the risk of being found liable and settled out of court

Nope. It was dismissed. Until an appeal overturns the ruling, it’s still dismissed.

 

[JoeB131]

Actually it does, once it’s appealed it’s still alive

The fact is clinton didn’t want to take the risk of being found liable and settled out of court

Or more likely, he didn't want to rack up another 2 million dollars in legal bills with a case that might weaken sexual harassment laws if he won.

The main thing that changed was that Jones and her lawyers dropped their insistence that Clinton apologize for that thing that probably never happened.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Of course you do, it's your job.


I Thought the Bragg Case Against Trump Was a Legal Embarrassment. Now I Think It’s a Historic Mistake.

 

[Resnic]

I've seen other legal scholars that echo this. My question is what recourse does the defendant who is being denied civil rights have? How does he put a stop to this before irreparable harm is committed. Half the nation is being denied a free election. Who can stop this? A winning appeal does not repair the damage done to the electorate.

The problem is, this isn't just bragg, it isn't just that district, it isn't just that state. This is being backed and supported by their entire political party, that parties benefactors like George soros, the current presidential administration, and branches of the government, and includes the mainstream media that is running defense and offense for all of them.

At this point it ends when there is a total gutting of all of those institutions. They all need to be stripped and replaced with real Americans that have American morals, values and standards.

Until that happens this will just continue because now it's been shown it can be done and it's somewhat effective. If they can somehow topple trump they will have beaten the heavy weight champ and everyone else is easy pickings.

If they can use this corrupt system and get trump, then all of their enemies are in trouble.

 

[JoeB131]

The problem is, this isn't just bragg, it isn't just that district, it isn't just that state. This is being backed and supported by their entire political party, that parties benefactors like George soros, the current presidential administration, and branches of the government, and includes the mainstream media that is running defense and offense for all of them.

At this point it ends when there is a total gutting of all of those institutions. They all need to be stripped and replaced with real Americans that have American morals, values and standards.

Until that happens this will just continue because now it's been shown it can be done and it's somewhat effective. If they can somehow topple trump they will have beaten the heavy weight champ and everyone else is easy pickings.

If they can use this corrupt system and get trump, then all of their enemies are in trouble.

Or you can just nominate someone who isn't a career criminal.

I didn't much like George W. Bush's policies (in retrospect, because I voted for him twice), but you never saw him inciting riots when he didn't get his way, or banging a porn star, or engaging in dodgy deals to overvalue his properties to cheat the banks, or starting a fraudulent charity, or starting a fraudulent university.

the problem here is Trump did what he is accused of. And yes, you can whine that Democrats have done bad stuff, but they have accountability. Blago was removed and jailed. Al Franken had to resign. Cuomo had to resign.

 

[struth]

Are you fucking retarded.

Judge Weber Wright dismissed the case on April 1st, 1998.

The case was dead in the water.

Clinton paid Jones off not to file appeals. (Or his insurance company did). Her lawyers snapped up the deal because they hadn't been paid, and Jones got jack squat. It's why she's spent the last 25 years whoring herself out to pay off all those legal bills for a case she probably never wanted to be part of to start with.

No it wasn't, it was appealed, then Clinton settled for over$800K

why the F did Clinton settle if it was dead in the water???

 

[struth]

Or more likely, he didn't want to rack up another 2 million dollars in legal bills with a case that might weaken sexual harassment laws if he won.

The main thing that changed was that Jones and her lawyers dropped their insistence that Clinton apologize for that thing that probably never happened.

what did he have to worry about if the case was dead? oh, because it wasn't dead

 

[JoeB131]

No it wasn't, it was appealed, then Clinton settled for over$800K

why the F did Clinton settle if it was dead in the water???

Actually, an appeals court never heard the case (and probably would have rejected it.)

what did he have to worry about if the case was dead? oh, because it wasn't dead

Another two or three million in legal costs, and the possibility of creating precedents that might weaken the rights of LEGITIMATE victims of sexual harassment to seek compensation.

Now, dirty little secret about SH claims. Jones v. Clinton is what happens when these things go too far. Most of these claims are settled and the accused fired without a hearing. I've seen it happen a few times, and it's ugly.

 

[struth]

Actually, an appeals court never heard the case (and probably would have rejected it.)


Another two or three million in legal costs, and the possibility of creating precedents that might weaken the rights of LEGITIMATE victims of sexual harassment to seek compensation.

Now, dirty little secret about SH claims. Jones v. Clinton is what happens when these things go too far. Most of these claims are settled and the accused fired without a hearing. I've seen it happen a few times, and it's ugly.

They accepted the appeal, Clinton setttled before the court ruled

 

[JoeB131]

They accepted the appeal, Clinton setttled before the court ruled

Who is "they"? The only thing that occurred was that a court said they would hear Jones' appeal based on Ellsworth v. Burlington, which expanded the parameters of harassment.

It was actually Jones who made concessions, dropping from 2 million to $850,000, and dropping her demand for an apology.

 

[struth]

Who is "they"? The only thing that occurred was that a court said they would hear Jones' appeal based on Ellsworth v. Burlington, which expanded the parameters of harassment.

It was actually Jones who made concessions, dropping from 2 million to $850,000, and dropping her demand for an apology.

The judges on appeals court

Face it clinton settled, that’s what ended the case

 

[JoeB131]

The judges on appeals court

Face it clinton settled, that’s what ended the case

Face it, Jones' lawyers realized they had a loser case, which is why they settled. Jones was on her third set of lawyers at that point, and the third set were the ones who realized that they had no real case and opted for a settlement.

 

[struth]

Face it, Jones' lawyers realized they had a loser case, which is why they settled. Jones was on her third set of lawyers at that point, and the third set were the ones who realized that they had no real case and opted for a settlement.

Clinton settled.

 

[JoeB131]

Clinton settled.

So did Jones... for far less than what she was asking for and without getting an admission of guilt. She got Clinton's insurance company to pay her "go away" money.

 

[struth]

So did Jones... for far less than what she was asking for and without getting an admission of guilt. She got Clinton's insurance company to pay her "go away" money.

Sure, she did. They came to an agreement on how to close the case. That's what a settlement is.

Had Clinton won, he wouldn't of settled.