Mitt Romney 2012?

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I don't see how so many see Romney as being some sort of economic prodigy considering this recession blindsided him just as it did McCain and Obama.

So if it not Ron Paul then ya ain't buying correct KKK?

I certainly wouldn't support Mitt Romney, but I'd support anyone who shares my ideals. By the way, you can just call me Kevin if you like.

 

[Oddball]

i dont like Huck either

I detest double-dealing sandbagging fucks.

Even though Dr. Paul also stayed in the race after it was evident he wasn't going to win the nomination, he wasn't making any deals in back rooms to sabotage other candidates.

 

[DiveCon]

With Palin gone, I think romney will win. I think he'll have too much money and too much support from the talking heads for huck to challenge him.

I want to see the Christian part of the right wing's face when Romney gets nominated.

WHAT? WE NOMINATED A MORMON? RIOT!

depends how many of them watch Hannity, Ingraham, buchanan, coulter, etc.

because they were already supporting him toward the end of this last primary. they will be ready to commit to him early on this time.

bobby is a punk kid, he doesnt know that we dont have a religious test for POTUS candidates

 

[bk1983]

Unless something really drastic happens, Obama will be relected. Just look at history.

Ppphht... IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED! Obama's approval rating has plummeted into the proverbial TOILET faster than any other President in history. He's a one term wonder, and who knows, he could get thrown out before that.

Next election, I'm voting independent, period. I'm sick and tired of the dem, repub stranglehold. Been there, done that. Hasn't worked. I'm sick of them both.

Obama's first quarter average was higher then Nixon, Ford,Carter,Reagan,both Bush's, and Clinton.

Now in his sixth month in office, his honeymoon has already exceeded the durations of those for Ford, Clinton, and George W. Bush. If he can maintain ratings above 55% through the summer, his honeymoon will match the length of those for Jimmy Carter and Reagan.

Obama Honeymoon Continues; 7 Months Is Recent Average

 

[Modbert]

bobby is a punk kid, he doesnt know that we dont have a religious test for POTUS candidates

Tell that to an open Atheist who tries to run.

 

[Meister]

I want to see the Christian part of the right wing's face when Romney gets nominated.

WHAT? WE NOMINATED A MORMON? RIOT!

depends how many of them watch Hannity, Ingraham, buchanan, coulter, etc.

because they were already supporting him toward the end of this last primary. they will be ready to commit to him early on this time.

bobby is a punk kid, he doesnt know that we dont have a religious test for POTUS candidates

I agree with you on this Dive. But, the media hasn't really gotten into the mix. Once they start they will tell the sheep how important it is, and what an evil religion the LDS is.

 

[elvis]

depends how many of them watch Hannity, Ingraham, buchanan, coulter, etc.

because they were already supporting him toward the end of this last primary. they will be ready to commit to him early on this time.

bobby is a punk kid, he doesnt know that we dont have a religious test for POTUS candidates

I agree with you on this Dive. But, the media hasn't really gotten into the mix. Once they start they will tell the sheep how important it is, and what an evil religion the LDS is.

I don't know if I agree with your second point or not. If the media truly had had their way, it would have been a Hillary vs. Rudy bloodbath.

 

[DiveCon]

bobby is a punk kid, he doesnt know that we dont have a religious test for POTUS candidates

Tell that to an open Atheist who tries to run.

a conservative that would follow the constitution would get my vote, atheist or not

 

[Modbert]

a conservative that would follow the constitution would get my vote, atheist or not

Alright? But are you the ultra right Christian faction of the Republican party? I've always referred to the extreme part of the right wing that are religious as the Christian right.

I think you seemed to have confuse with my statement with the thought that I was inferring that all Christians wouldn't vote for an Atheist when that's not true. I mean I'm a Christian and I'd vote for an Atheist so obviously that's not true from my own personal beliefs.

 

[Meister]

bobby is a punk kid, he doesnt know that we dont have a religious test for POTUS candidates

I agree with you on this Dive. But, the media hasn't really gotten into the mix. Once they start they will tell the sheep how important it is, and what an evil religion the LDS is.

I don't know if I agree with your second point or not. If the media truly had had their way, it would have been a Hillary vs. Rudy bloodbath.

The only thing the media would have to ruin Romney would be his religion. He's was vetted pretty good on this last election, and the only thing that kept popping up was that he was a Mormon.

 

[elvis]

I agree with you on this Dive. But, the media hasn't really gotten into the mix. Once they start they will tell the sheep how important it is, and what an evil religion the LDS is.

I don't know if I agree with your second point or not. If the media truly had had their way, it would have been a Hillary vs. Rudy bloodbath.

The only thing the media would have to ruin Romney would be his religion. He's was vetted pretty good on this last election, and the only thing that kept popping up was that he was a Mormon.

i can't wait for the Jesse Jackson/al sharpton types to come out of the woodwork.

 

[Modbert]

Oh by the way, several states still do not allow Atheists to run for office:

'Arkansas might let atheists run for office, at last' by US News - RichardDawkins.net

It's not enforceable but it's still on the books.

 

[elvis]

Oh by the way, several states still do not allow Atheists to run for office:

'Arkansas might let atheists run for office, at last' by US News - RichardDawkins.net

doesn't matter. an open atheist could never be nominated by either party anyway.

 

[Modbert]

doesn't matter. an open atheist could never be nominated by either party anyway.

Which is EXACTLY my point. So the whole thing by Dive about there being no religious test for POTUS is BULLSHIT. If there was no such "religious test" then an Atheist should easily be able to get the nomination if his views were the exact same as the others running but they wouldn't.

However, at this current point in our country, nominating an Atheist would be party political suicide on a nationwide scale.

 

[DiveCon]

a conservative that would follow the constitution would get my vote, atheist or not

Alright? But are you the ultra right Christian faction of the Republican party? I've always referred to the extreme part of the right wing that are religious as the Christian right.

I think you seemed to have confuse with my statement with the thought that I was inferring that all Christians wouldn't vote for an Atheist when that's not true. I mean I'm a Christian and I'd vote for an Atheist so obviously that's not true from my own personal beliefs.

then you admit your statement is nothing but hypebole bullshit

 

[DiveCon]

Oh by the way, several states still do not allow Atheists to run for office:

'Arkansas might let atheists run for office, at last' by US News - RichardDawkins.net

doesn't matter. an open atheist could never be nominated by either party anyway.

i disagree
religion wouldnt matter as much as character

 

[Modbert]

i disagree
religion wouldnt matter as much as character

And I disagree with your post.

Gallup poll back in 1999:

Gallup Polls & Other Surveys on American Attitudes Towards Atheists - Over 40 Years of Research Show Atheists Are Despised, Distrusted

A 1999 Gallup poll conducted to determine Americans' willingness to tolerate a Jewish president (Joseph Lieberman was the Democratic candidate for Vice President at the time). Here are the percentages of people saying they would refuse to vote for "a generally well-qualified person for president" on the basis of some characteristic; in parenthesis are the figures for earlier years:

Atheist: 48%

Finally, other studies and surveys indicate that prejudice against atheists is going back up. A March, 2007 survey done by Newsweek shows that 62% of people would refuse to vote for any candidate admitting to being an atheist. Republicans were, predictably, the most bigoted at 78%, followed by Democrats at 60% and independents at 45%. Among those surveyed, 47% claimed that America is more accepting of atheists than in the past. I wonder where they got that idea? The only positive results from this survey were that 68% of the people felt that atheists could be moral — but this begs the question of why people won't vote for atheists.

In 2003, the Pew Research Center conducted a poll on "religion and public life" which asked people about their attitudes towards a variety of groups, including atheists. People's opinions of atheists break down:

Very Favorable: 7%
Mostly Favorable: 27%
Mostly Unfavorable: 19%
Very Unfavorable: 33%

51% unfavorable..

Muslims are thus regarded a bit worse than the non-religious, but much better than atheists. Attitudes towards "Muslim Americans" were even better than this. All of these attitudes translated into whether people are willing to vote for a person for president. Here are the percentages of Americans who, according to this Pew Research Center survey, would refuse to vote for someone based on the relevant characteristic:

Catholic: 8%
Jewish: 10%
Evangelical Christian: 15%
Muslim: 38%
Atheist: 50%

Here are the numbers of born-again Christians who regard the impact of these groups as negative:

Islam: 71%
Buddhism: 76%
Scientology: 81%
Atheism: 92%


Here are the numbers of non-Christians who view the impact of the same groups as negative:

Islam: 24%
Buddhism: 22%
Scientology: 30%
Atheism: 50%

As the television show likes to say, Myth..Busted. I think I proved you wrong again Dive, I wish I wasn't right on this one but I am.

 

[elvis]

I'm not surprised at those numbers. I think most people view atheists as having no morals.

 

[Modbert]

I'm not surprised at those numbers. I think most people view atheists as having no morals.

68% view of them of could have morals yet 62% wouldn't vote for one anyway.

The thing is though, when you get higher unfavorable numbers than Scientology then you know people hate you.

 

[bigdaddygtr]

I'm not surprised at those numbers. I think most people view atheists as having no morals.

I think most of us Agnostics/Atheists think that anybody who believes in the world starting 6500 yrs ago in a garden with a talking snake is just nuts. Oh, and lets not stop and forget how many people in history that have died in the name of God. Morals