Mitt Romney 2012?

I'm not surprised at those numbers. I think most people view atheists as having no morals.

68% view of them of could have morals yet 62% wouldn't vote for one anyway. :cuckoo:

The thing is though, when you get higher unfavorable numbers than Scientology then you know people hate you. :lol:

I take it you don't think Tom Cruise is the next Reagan?
 
I take it you don't think Tom Cruise is the next Reagan?

I could say a horrible joke about Reagan here but I won't. :lol:

Tom Cruise is a really nice guy, and an awesome actor. However, the poor guy must of hit his head on something along the way. :lol:
 
i disagree
religion wouldnt matter as much as character

And I disagree with your post.

Gallup poll back in 1999:

Gallup Polls & Other Surveys on American Attitudes Towards Atheists - Over 40 Years of Research Show Atheists Are Despised, Distrusted

A 1999 Gallup poll conducted to determine Americans' willingness to tolerate a Jewish president (Joseph Lieberman was the Democratic candidate for Vice President at the time). Here are the percentages of people saying they would refuse to vote for "a generally well-qualified person for president" on the basis of some characteristic; in parenthesis are the figures for earlier years:

Atheist: 48%





51% unfavorable..

Muslims are thus regarded a bit worse than the non-religious, but much better than atheists. Attitudes towards "Muslim Americans" were even better than this. All of these attitudes translated into whether people are willing to vote for a person for president. Here are the percentages of Americans who, according to this Pew Research Center survey, would refuse to vote for someone based on the relevant characteristic:

Catholic: 8%
Jewish: 10%
Evangelical Christian: 15%
Muslim: 38%
Atheist: 50%
Here are the numbers of born-again Christians who regard the impact of these groups as negative:

Islam: 71%
Buddhism: 76%
Scientology: 81%
Atheism: 92%


Here are the numbers of non-Christians who view the impact of the same groups as negative:

Islam: 24%
Buddhism: 22%
Scientology: 30%
Atheism: 50%

As the television show likes to say, Myth..Busted. I think I proved you wrong again Dive, I wish I wasn't right on this one but I am.
that poll doesnt prove me wrong
all it does is say people have an adverse reaction to general terms
 
I won't be voting for Romney...I just got off the phone with Steve Shannon's pollster...it was an hour long phone call. I could tell the woman was black and boy did I go on and on about ACORN, and how the issues she is telling me should be important are really not at this time. I will vote against Steve Shannon. She was a nice woman and I had to apoligize for my opinionated responses but she just said this was her best conversation yet. She did a lot of ahha's and yeah's which led me to think she agreed with some of my issues. To me this was just a job for her. When I went on about our Econmy and what Congress has done to this country yadda yadda yadda she actually said "Yes I know and agree". She then had to mask that statement and tried to rub it off as she was agreeing about the weather. LOL

I will not vote for any lame duck pansy ass 1/2 dem 1/2 dem. I'll wait to see who else is out there. I'll probably vote 3rd party.
 
Romney is a bit....slick at times.

He could be another McCain from the land of Mormon - or not.

Too soon to tell for now...
 
I must've not gotten the memo that we're supposed to treat Mormons like they're lepers. Why? I think Mitt being associated with the LDS is a plus. I've never met a more friendly, hard-working, affable, family-oriented group of people, and given Mitt's history and his family, I'd say he exemplifies that.

I don't think that automatically qualifies him for President, but I'd think his big business/waffling social conservatism policies would be more of a liability than his being a Mormon.
 
The field looks pretty weak as it stands now, although I do think Romney is a smart bet to win the GOP nomination.

It should have happened in '08, Mitt would have been their best choice. Jindal, Pawlenty are pretty boring. Palin is a loose cannon.

I say Mitt in 2012 also but only if Repubs have smartened up by then. It's a longshot.
yes she's such a manic:eusa_hand:


and it's way to early to say who will get the nom, look at rudy, he was leading all the polls and then once fla came he went out
 
The field looks pretty weak as it stands now, although I do think Romney is a smart bet to win the GOP nomination.

It should have happened in '08, Mitt would have been their best choice. Jindal, Pawlenty are pretty boring. Palin is a loose cannon.

I say Mitt in 2012 also but only if Repubs have smartened up by then. It's a longshot.
yes she's such a manic:eusa_hand:


and it's way to early to say who will get the nom, look at rudy, he was leading all the polls and then once fla came he went out

Rudy should have moved to Iowa or New Hampshire in mid 2007. certainly shouldn't have pulled out of NH.
 
It should have happened in '08, Mitt would have been their best choice. Jindal, Pawlenty are pretty boring. Palin is a loose cannon.

I say Mitt in 2012 also but only if Repubs have smartened up by then. It's a longshot.
yes she's such a manic:eusa_hand:


and it's way to early to say who will get the nom, look at rudy, he was leading all the polls and then once fla came he went out

Rudy should have moved to Iowa or New Hampshire in mid 2007. certainly shouldn't have pulled out of NH.
he messed up by jumping to FL
thats why he lost
 
It should have happened in '08, Mitt would have been their best choice. Jindal, Pawlenty are pretty boring. Palin is a loose cannon.

I say Mitt in 2012 also but only if Repubs have smartened up by then. It's a longshot.
yes she's such a manic:eusa_hand:


and it's way to early to say who will get the nom, look at rudy, he was leading all the polls and then once fla came he went out

Rudy should have moved to Iowa or New Hampshire in mid 2007. certainly shouldn't have pulled out of NH.


Agreed.

I like Rudy - always have.

Tough little Italian...
 
Atheists represent about 10-20% of the country with the heavy majority of them being left of center. That's why they don't get nominated. There is no need to go out of your way to poke eighty percent of the country in the eye by nominating someone who's mantra is all you religious types are morons.

I'm hoping that Newt does run this time but I don't know that he will. He's the only one out there that is actually putting out workable solutions to what ails this country rather than pie in the sky socialist crap that almost no one not sealybobo thinks is working.
 
Atheists represent about 10-20% of the country with the heavy majority of them being left of center. That's why they don't get nominated. There is no need to go out of your way to poke eighty percent of the country in the eye by nominating someone who's mantra is all you religious types are morons.

I'm hoping that Newt does run this time but I don't know that he will. He's the only one out there that is actually putting out workable solutions to what ails this country rather than pie in the sky socialist crap that almost no one not sealybobo thinks is working.

Newt is a bright guy - is he electable?

Not sure...
 
Atheists represent about 10-20% of the country with the heavy majority of them being left of center. That's why they don't get nominated. There is no need to go out of your way to poke eighty percent of the country in the eye by nominating someone who's mantra is all you religious types are morons.

I'm hoping that Newt does run this time but I don't know that he will. He's the only one out there that is actually putting out workable solutions to what ails this country rather than pie in the sky socialist crap that almost no one not sealybobo thinks is working.

Newt is a bright guy - is he electable?

Not sure...

would harry truman have been electable had he not already been president?
 
Atheists represent about 10-20% of the country with the heavy majority of them being left of center. That's why they don't get nominated. There is no need to go out of your way to poke eighty percent of the country in the eye by nominating someone who's mantra is all you religious types are morons.

I'm hoping that Newt does run this time but I don't know that he will. He's the only one out there that is actually putting out workable solutions to what ails this country rather than pie in the sky socialist crap that almost no one not sealybobo thinks is working.

Newt is a bright guy - is he electable?

Not sure...

would harry truman have been electable had he not already been president?

Ah - good historical comparison. Like Newt, Harry was disliked by many from both political parties and left office rather unpopular. His reputation has since risen considerably in the last 20 years.

That being said, the nation elected Obama on little more than a speech and a smle. Will we continue to value style over substance? If so, Newt would face a difficult challenge winning the nomination, let alone the election.

I'm not counting him out though - he is too smart to do so.
 
Considering where we will be by 2012 if the Reps don't get enough of an off year bounce to at least limit the damage Obama Co will do to this country, almost anything not Obama will win handily.

Right now Newt is the only one out there with a message of any sort that even begins to resonate with most voters.

By the way based on Newts reception at various Republican affairs that he attends frankly if he announces he almost immediately becomes the front runner. To be sure the country clubbers don't like the guy but frankly that's all the more reason to vote for him.
 
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Considering where we will be by 2012 if the Reps don't get enough of an off year bounce to at least limit the damage Obama Co will do to this country, almost anything not Obama will win handily.

Right now Newt is the only one out there with a message of any sort that even begins to resonate with most voters.

By the way based on Newts reception at various Republican affairs that he attends frankly if he announces he almost immediately becomes the front runner. To be sure the country clubbers don't like the guy but frankly that's all the more reason to vote for him.

Amen to that.

And he has on many occassions defended Palin - despite being an intellectual, Newt understands the very basic appeal of Palin's simple message of smaller, less intrusive government, and leading from a position based upon this nation's founding history of personal freedoms.

If Newt runs, and he actually gets the nomination, I would campaign for him hard.
 
Amen to that.

And he has on many occassions defended Palin - despite being an intellectual, Newt understands the very basic appeal of Palin's simple message of smaller, less intrusive government, and leading from a position based upon this nation's founding history of personal freedoms.

If Newt runs, and he actually gets the nomination, I would campaign for him hard.

Not that it matters the things he did to his wife among every other horrible thing.

In fact, why don't you take a look at all this then come back, and tell me you'd campaign for him hard.

http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm
 
Amen to that.

And he has on many occassions defended Palin - despite being an intellectual, Newt understands the very basic appeal of Palin's simple message of smaller, less intrusive government, and leading from a position based upon this nation's founding history of personal freedoms.

If Newt runs, and he actually gets the nomination, I would campaign for him hard.

Not that it matters the things he did to his wife among every other horrible thing.

In fact, why don't you take a look at all this then come back, and tell me you'd campaign for him hard.

Possible Presidential Candidate Newt Gingrich - The Dark Side

but when Clinton runs his wife through the mud on the national stage, it's ok.
 

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