John Wayne on liberals

[rightwinger]

Jane Fonda was right about the Vietnam War......John Wayne was not

Who was the real patriot?

Explain to us what that fucking kuuuunt was right about you fucking unreal sack of shit.

Jane Fonda fought to bring our troops home from an il-conceived war
John Wayne fought to send more to their deaths

Who is the REAL patriot?

Jane Fonda sided with the communists you idiot!!!!!!!!!!

No she didn't

She never advocated the communists winning. She did advocate ending a senseless war that was needlessly killing American boys

Jane Fonda was right....John Wayne was wrong

She was very much for Communism and was very active and vocal about it.
Jane Fonda A.K.A. Hanoi Jane

While American Soldiers were fighting and dying in the Vietnam War, Jane Fonda, the daughter of Henry Fonda, was using her money and influence at colleges and universities to gather support to advocate communism and encourage rebellion and anarchy against the United States Government.

On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism. " Washington Times July 7, 2000

I think I will pass on anything published in the Washington Times
Fool me once.....

 

[BlueGin]

Considering that she gave support to those who were killing our troops, John Wayne.

Jane Fondas efforts, along with all Vietnam protesters shortened the war

John Wayne and his ilk extended it

She gave Aid and Comfort to the enemy. If it was a declared war, she could have been arrested for treason.

Indeed, that is a strong argument, IMO for formal declarations of war.

Her actions resulted in no American deaths

Those people like John Wayne, who advocated expanding the war sent many thousand to their deaths

How do you know? You didn't even know about James N Rowe.

Still don't

Then guess you don't know what you are talking about in relation to the POW's from Vietnam. Go figure.

 

[rightwinger]

Jane Fondas efforts, along with all Vietnam protesters shortened the war

John Wayne and his ilk extended it

She gave Aid and Comfort to the enemy. If it was a declared war, she could have been arrested for treason.

Indeed, that is a strong argument, IMO for formal declarations of war.

Her actions resulted in no American deaths

Those people like John Wayne, who advocated expanding the war sent many thousand to their deaths

How do you know? You didn't even know about James N Rowe.

Still don't

Then guess you don't know what you are talking about in relation to the POW's from Vietnam. Go figure.

Its your claim......I am not going to look it up for you

If you have relevant information, post it

 

[peach174]

So he was 34 also when Pearl Harbor was bombed?
Did your grandfather have a 3 A class status also?

You all would rather attack the actor rather than what he said about liberals.
One thing he said about them is absolutely correct and that is, liberals think they know better than you, in what you think or say.
How many times have libs on this board said "you implied" it or say "assume' this is what you really said.
How much of the progressive, lib ways have actually worked without putting us in debt?

Not only was my grandfather 34, he had two young daughters and still got drafted in 1943
But I guess John Waynes 3-a status didn't prevent him from riding horses in the movies. Wayne fought the war by playing soldiers and sailors in the movies

Jimmy Stewart saw combat, so did Clark Gable

But it is John Wayne who is the icon of Conservatives as he praised the Vietnam war after ducking his own service

You don't even know what a 3A status is.
A 4F is for medical reasons.

John Wayne was a war hawk draft dodger

Typical conservative

Who hated communists.

Is that why we wouldn't fight in WWII?

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable also hated communists and they fought. They also had kids to support.
John Wayne made a fortune in the movies playing characters who were fighting and dying....beats actual fighting

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable were well established actors and wealthy enough to take time out from their carriers.
John Wayne had just started to become well knowen in the film Stagecoach done in 1939. He was not wealthy, at the time.
He was getting a divorce from his wife at the start of WWII and had 4 kids to support.
I don't think that it was wrong for him to choose his career and support his 4 kids.
You can dish out the harsh judgment about him all you want, but he used Hollywood to support our troops and the war.

 

[BlueGin]

She gave Aid and Comfort to the enemy. If it was a declared war, she could have been arrested for treason.

Indeed, that is a strong argument, IMO for formal declarations of war.

Her actions resulted in no American deaths

Those people like John Wayne, who advocated expanding the war sent many thousand to their deaths

How do you know? You didn't even know about James N Rowe.

Still don't

Then guess you don't know what you are talking about in relation to the POW's from Vietnam. Go figure.

Its your claim......I am not going to look it up for you

If you have relevant information, post it

I'm thinking you should have done your own homework BEFORE making broad claims.

Hint: read the book ... 5 years to freedom.

 

[peach174]

Explain to us what that fucking kuuuunt was right about you fucking unreal sack of shit.

Jane Fonda fought to bring our troops home from an il-conceived war
John Wayne fought to send more to their deaths

Who is the REAL patriot?

Jane Fonda sided with the communists you idiot!!!!!!!!!!

No she didn't

She never advocated the communists winning. She did advocate ending a senseless war that was needlessly killing American boys

Jane Fonda was right....John Wayne was wrong

She was very much for Communism and was very active and vocal about it.
Jane Fonda A.K.A. Hanoi Jane

While American Soldiers were fighting and dying in the Vietnam War, Jane Fonda, the daughter of Henry Fonda, was using her money and influence at colleges and universities to gather support to advocate communism and encourage rebellion and anarchy against the United States Government.

On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism. " Washington Times July 7, 2000

I think I will pass on anything published in the Washington Times
Fool me once.....

It proves that you probably was not born yet, because it was all over the news and in the magazines in the 1960's and 70's. She went all over the States in college campus advocating Communism.
She is and will always be for Communism.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Not only was my grandfather 34, he had two young daughters and still got drafted in 1943
But I guess John Waynes 3-a status didn't prevent him from riding horses in the movies. Wayne fought the war by playing soldiers and sailors in the movies

Jimmy Stewart saw combat, so did Clark Gable

But it is John Wayne who is the icon of Conservatives as he praised the Vietnam war after ducking his own service

You don't even know what a 3A status is.
A 4F is for medical reasons.

John Wayne was a war hawk draft dodger

Typical conservative

Who hated communists.

Is that why we wouldn't fight in WWII?

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable also hated communists and they fought. They also had kids to support.
John Wayne made a fortune in the movies playing characters who were fighting and dying....beats actual fighting

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable were well established actors and wealthy enough to take time out from their carriers.
John Wayne had just started to become well knowen in the film Stagecoach done in 1939. He was not wealthy, at the time.
He was getting a divorce from his wife at the start of WWII and had 4 kids to support.
I don't think that it was wrong for him to choose his carrier and support his 4 kids.
You can dish out the harsh judgment about him all you want, but he used Hollywood to support our troops and the war.

So only well-off people join the military. That's a new and novel excuse. To his credit, he was apparently ashamed of being a draft dodger. Can't say that about other RW heroes, like Ted Nugent.

From three different links:


Wayne struggled with severe alcoholism, chronic infidelity, self-esteem and personal demons that often made life hell for his three wives and his children. The book painstakingly recounts the triumphs and tragedies of the life of John Wayne – who rose from abject poverty to become the world’s most famous movie star – and creates a portrait of a man haunted by a childhood of abuse; a man conflicted by his own definition of masculinity; a man fighting to control his own rage and his propensity for violence; a man who committed domestic violence against all three of his wives and his children; and a man haunted by and driven to overcome his fear of failure, poverty and ridicule.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For all his extraordinary success, it was Wayne’s failures that haunted him, in Eyman’s account. The devoted family man crashed through three marriages and reaped troubled relationships with several of his seven children. The self-styled super-patriot felt shame and guilt for dodging military service during World War II. The box office champion never felt financially secure because of bad business deals and unfaithful friends, and felt compelled to keep on working even as his health faded and his appeal diminished. Although beloved and admired by millions, Eyman writes, “he always seemed surprised and pleased by praise, perhaps because he received so little of it for so long.”

For many of us, our image of Wayne was forged in the 1960s and early ’70s, when he too often seemed a lumbering, overweight, toupee-wearing self-parody spouting simplistic, right-wing views and playing the same role over and over in largely second-rate Westerns. But before he became John Wayne Inc., Wayne was an actor of unusual authority who created a character of rough-hewn charisma, vulnerability and physical menace.

~~~~~~~~~~~
'Rome. The Excelsior Hotel. Dietrich. I took her on the staircase': New book reveals how John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O'Hara

• New book lifts lid on how off-screen John Wayne was a serial philanderer and heavy drinker
• He downed countless hots of tequila and smoked up to five packs of unfiltered Camels every day
• He had affair with Marlene Dietrich while he was married to his second wife, Chata, who 'came right out of the brothels of Mexico'
• Wayne's favorite actor was James Garner. He said of him: ‘They rave about Brando and [George C] Scott, but they couldn’t hold a candle to him’
• When suffering cancer he lost 100 pounds, needed an oxygen tank and couldn't walk 20 feet
• He begged his sons to hand him his .38 so he could end his agony

Read more: Untrue Grit The real John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O Hara downed shots of tequila and smoked four or five packs of Camels a day Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

 

[BlueGin]

You don't even know what a 3A status is.
A 4F is for medical reasons.

John Wayne was a war hawk draft dodger

Typical conservative

Who hated communists.

Is that why we wouldn't fight in WWII?

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable also hated communists and they fought. They also had kids to support.
John Wayne made a fortune in the movies playing characters who were fighting and dying....beats actual fighting

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable were well established actors and wealthy enough to take time out from their carriers.
John Wayne had just started to become well knowen in the film Stagecoach done in 1939. He was not wealthy, at the time.
He was getting a divorce from his wife at the start of WWII and had 4 kids to support.
I don't think that it was wrong for him to choose his carrier and support his 4 kids.
You can dish out the harsh judgment about him all you want, but he used Hollywood to support our troops and the war.

So only well-off people join the military. That's a new and novel excuse. To his credit, he was apparently ashamed of being a draft dodger. Can't say that about other RW heroes, like Ted Nugent.

From three different links:


Wayne struggled with severe alcoholism, chronic infidelity, self-esteem and personal demons that often made life hell for his three wives and his children. The book painstakingly recounts the triumphs and tragedies of the life of John Wayne – who rose from abject poverty to become the world’s most famous movie star – and creates a portrait of a man haunted by a childhood of abuse; a man conflicted by his own definition of masculinity; a man fighting to control his own rage and his propensity for violence; a man who committed domestic violence against all three of his wives and his children; and a man haunted by and driven to overcome his fear of failure, poverty and ridicule.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For all his extraordinary success, it was Wayne’s failures that haunted him, in Eyman’s account. The devoted family man crashed through three marriages and reaped troubled relationships with several of his seven children. The self-styled super-patriot felt shame and guilt for dodging military service during World War II. The box office champion never felt financially secure because of bad business deals and unfaithful friends, and felt compelled to keep on working even as his health faded and his appeal diminished. Although beloved and admired by millions, Eyman writes, “he always seemed surprised and pleased by praise, perhaps because he received so little of it for so long.”

For many of us, our image of Wayne was forged in the 1960s and early ’70s, when he too often seemed a lumbering, overweight, toupee-wearing self-parody spouting simplistic, right-wing views and playing the same role over and over in largely second-rate Westerns. But before he became John Wayne Inc., Wayne was an actor of unusual authority who created a character of rough-hewn charisma, vulnerability and physical menace.

~~~~~~~~~~~
'Rome. The Excelsior Hotel. Dietrich. I took her on the staircase': New book reveals how John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O'Hara

• New book lifts lid on how off-screen John Wayne was a serial philanderer and heavy drinker
• He downed countless hots of tequila and smoked up to five packs of unfiltered Camels every day
• He had affair with Marlene Dietrich while he was married to his second wife, Chata, who 'came right out of the brothels of Mexico'
• Wayne's favorite actor was James Garner. He said of him: ‘They rave about Brando and [George C] Scott, but they couldn’t hold a candle to him’
• When suffering cancer he lost 100 pounds, needed an oxygen tank and couldn't walk 20 feet
• He begged his sons to hand him his .38 so he could end his agony

Read more: Untrue Grit The real John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O Hara downed shots of tequila and smoked four or five packs of Camels a day Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Esperanza Diaz Baur "Chata" was a Mexican Film Actress. Who dated and Married several wealthy Americans. Including Nicky Hilton.

Not even reading the rest of that word wall since the first thing I noticed was a lie.

 

[rightwinger]

Her actions resulted in no American deaths

Those people like John Wayne, who advocated expanding the war sent many thousand to their deaths

How do you know? You didn't even know about James N Rowe.

Still don't

Then guess you don't know what you are talking about in relation to the POW's from Vietnam. Go figure.

Its your claim......I am not going to look it up for you

If you have relevant information, post it

I'm thinking you should have done your own homework BEFORE making broad claims.

Hint: read the book ... 5 years to freedom.

Sorry...I don't accept reading assignments

If you have a point to make...do it

 

[BlueGin]

How do you know? You didn't even know about James N Rowe.

Still don't

Then guess you don't know what you are talking about in relation to the POW's from Vietnam. Go figure.

Its your claim......I am not going to look it up for you

If you have relevant information, post it

I'm thinking you should have done your own homework BEFORE making broad claims.

Hint: read the book ... 5 years to freedom.

Sorry...I don't accept reading assignments

If you have a point to make...do it

Already told you who he was. He trained the Army on survival skills he learned during Vietnam. He was tortured and staked in a swamp because US war protestors gave up his military information to the Viet Cong after he had successfully hidden it from them.

Not my problem if you don't want to know about the soldiers you keep denying exist.

 

[peach174]

You don't even know what a 3A status is.
A 4F is for medical reasons.

John Wayne was a war hawk draft dodger

Typical conservative

Who hated communists.

Is that why we wouldn't fight in WWII?

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable also hated communists and they fought. They also had kids to support.
John Wayne made a fortune in the movies playing characters who were fighting and dying....beats actual fighting

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable were well established actors and wealthy enough to take time out from their carriers.
John Wayne had just started to become well knowen in the film Stagecoach done in 1939. He was not wealthy, at the time.
He was getting a divorce from his wife at the start of WWII and had 4 kids to support.
I don't think that it was wrong for him to choose his carrier and support his 4 kids.
You can dish out the harsh judgment about him all you want, but he used Hollywood to support our troops and the war.

So only well-off people join the military. That's a new and novel excuse. To his credit, he was apparently ashamed of being a draft dodger. Can't say that about other RW heroes, like Ted Nugent.

From three different links:


Wayne struggled with severe alcoholism, chronic infidelity, self-esteem and personal demons that often made life hell for his three wives and his children. The book painstakingly recounts the triumphs and tragedies of the life of John Wayne – who rose from abject poverty to become the world’s most famous movie star – and creates a portrait of a man haunted by a childhood of abuse; a man conflicted by his own definition of masculinity; a man fighting to control his own rage and his propensity for violence; a man who committed domestic violence against all three of his wives and his children; and a man haunted by and driven to overcome his fear of failure, poverty and ridicule.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For all his extraordinary success, it was Wayne’s failures that haunted him, in Eyman’s account. The devoted family man crashed through three marriages and reaped troubled relationships with several of his seven children. The self-styled super-patriot felt shame and guilt for dodging military service during World War II. The box office champion never felt financially secure because of bad business deals and unfaithful friends, and felt compelled to keep on working even as his health faded and his appeal diminished. Although beloved and admired by millions, Eyman writes, “he always seemed surprised and pleased by praise, perhaps because he received so little of it for so long.”

For many of us, our image of Wayne was forged in the 1960s and early ’70s, when he too often seemed a lumbering, overweight, toupee-wearing self-parody spouting simplistic, right-wing views and playing the same role over and over in largely second-rate Westerns. But before he became John Wayne Inc., Wayne was an actor of unusual authority who created a character of rough-hewn charisma, vulnerability and physical menace.

~~~~~~~~~~~
'Rome. The Excelsior Hotel. Dietrich. I took her on the staircase': New book reveals how John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O'Hara

• New book lifts lid on how off-screen John Wayne was a serial philanderer and heavy drinker
• He downed countless hots of tequila and smoked up to five packs of unfiltered Camels every day
• He had affair with Marlene Dietrich while he was married to his second wife, Chata, who 'came right out of the brothels of Mexico'
• Wayne's favorite actor was James Garner. He said of him: ‘They rave about Brando and [George C] Scott, but they couldn’t hold a candle to him’
• When suffering cancer he lost 100 pounds, needed an oxygen tank and couldn't walk 20 feet
• He begged his sons to hand him his .38 so he could end his agony

Read more: Untrue Grit The real John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O Hara downed shots of tequila and smoked four or five packs of Camels a day Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Where do you get the idea that I said you have to be well off to join the military? I didn't.
I said that he was not as well knowen as the other actors were at the time and he was just getting his career started.

 

[rightwinger]

John Wayne was a war hawk draft dodger

Typical conservative

Who hated communists.

Is that why we wouldn't fight in WWII?

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable also hated communists and they fought. They also had kids to support.
John Wayne made a fortune in the movies playing characters who were fighting and dying....beats actual fighting

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable were well established actors and wealthy enough to take time out from their carriers.
John Wayne had just started to become well knowen in the film Stagecoach done in 1939. He was not wealthy, at the time.
He was getting a divorce from his wife at the start of WWII and had 4 kids to support.
I don't think that it was wrong for him to choose his carrier and support his 4 kids.
You can dish out the harsh judgment about him all you want, but he used Hollywood to support our troops and the war.

So only well-off people join the military. That's a new and novel excuse. To his credit, he was apparently ashamed of being a draft dodger. Can't say that about other RW heroes, like Ted Nugent.

From three different links:


Wayne struggled with severe alcoholism, chronic infidelity, self-esteem and personal demons that often made life hell for his three wives and his children. The book painstakingly recounts the triumphs and tragedies of the life of John Wayne – who rose from abject poverty to become the world’s most famous movie star – and creates a portrait of a man haunted by a childhood of abuse; a man conflicted by his own definition of masculinity; a man fighting to control his own rage and his propensity for violence; a man who committed domestic violence against all three of his wives and his children; and a man haunted by and driven to overcome his fear of failure, poverty and ridicule.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For all his extraordinary success, it was Wayne’s failures that haunted him, in Eyman’s account. The devoted family man crashed through three marriages and reaped troubled relationships with several of his seven children. The self-styled super-patriot felt shame and guilt for dodging military service during World War II. The box office champion never felt financially secure because of bad business deals and unfaithful friends, and felt compelled to keep on working even as his health faded and his appeal diminished. Although beloved and admired by millions, Eyman writes, “he always seemed surprised and pleased by praise, perhaps because he received so little of it for so long.”

For many of us, our image of Wayne was forged in the 1960s and early ’70s, when he too often seemed a lumbering, overweight, toupee-wearing self-parody spouting simplistic, right-wing views and playing the same role over and over in largely second-rate Westerns. But before he became John Wayne Inc., Wayne was an actor of unusual authority who created a character of rough-hewn charisma, vulnerability and physical menace.

~~~~~~~~~~~
'Rome. The Excelsior Hotel. Dietrich. I took her on the staircase': New book reveals how John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O'Hara

• New book lifts lid on how off-screen John Wayne was a serial philanderer and heavy drinker
• He downed countless hots of tequila and smoked up to five packs of unfiltered Camels every day
• He had affair with Marlene Dietrich while he was married to his second wife, Chata, who 'came right out of the brothels of Mexico'
• Wayne's favorite actor was James Garner. He said of him: ‘They rave about Brando and [George C] Scott, but they couldn’t hold a candle to him’
• When suffering cancer he lost 100 pounds, needed an oxygen tank and couldn't walk 20 feet
• He begged his sons to hand him his .38 so he could end his agony

Read more: Untrue Grit The real John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O Hara downed shots of tequila and smoked four or five packs of Camels a day Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Where do you get the idea that I said you have to be well off to join the military? I didn't.
I said that he was not as well knowen as the other actors were at the time and he was just getting his career started.

A million American boys were "just getting their career started"
They went

 

[peach174]

Who hated communists.

Is that why we wouldn't fight in WWII?

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable also hated communists and they fought. They also had kids to support.
John Wayne made a fortune in the movies playing characters who were fighting and dying....beats actual fighting

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable were well established actors and wealthy enough to take time out from their carriers.
John Wayne had just started to become well knowen in the film Stagecoach done in 1939. He was not wealthy, at the time.
He was getting a divorce from his wife at the start of WWII and had 4 kids to support.
I don't think that it was wrong for him to choose his carrier and support his 4 kids.
You can dish out the harsh judgment about him all you want, but he used Hollywood to support our troops and the war.

So only well-off people join the military. That's a new and novel excuse. To his credit, he was apparently ashamed of being a draft dodger. Can't say that about other RW heroes, like Ted Nugent.

From three different links:


Wayne struggled with severe alcoholism, chronic infidelity, self-esteem and personal demons that often made life hell for his three wives and his children. The book painstakingly recounts the triumphs and tragedies of the life of John Wayne – who rose from abject poverty to become the world’s most famous movie star – and creates a portrait of a man haunted by a childhood of abuse; a man conflicted by his own definition of masculinity; a man fighting to control his own rage and his propensity for violence; a man who committed domestic violence against all three of his wives and his children; and a man haunted by and driven to overcome his fear of failure, poverty and ridicule.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For all his extraordinary success, it was Wayne’s failures that haunted him, in Eyman’s account. The devoted family man crashed through three marriages and reaped troubled relationships with several of his seven children. The self-styled super-patriot felt shame and guilt for dodging military service during World War II. The box office champion never felt financially secure because of bad business deals and unfaithful friends, and felt compelled to keep on working even as his health faded and his appeal diminished. Although beloved and admired by millions, Eyman writes, “he always seemed surprised and pleased by praise, perhaps because he received so little of it for so long.”

For many of us, our image of Wayne was forged in the 1960s and early ’70s, when he too often seemed a lumbering, overweight, toupee-wearing self-parody spouting simplistic, right-wing views and playing the same role over and over in largely second-rate Westerns. But before he became John Wayne Inc., Wayne was an actor of unusual authority who created a character of rough-hewn charisma, vulnerability and physical menace.

~~~~~~~~~~~
'Rome. The Excelsior Hotel. Dietrich. I took her on the staircase': New book reveals how John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O'Hara

• New book lifts lid on how off-screen John Wayne was a serial philanderer and heavy drinker
• He downed countless hots of tequila and smoked up to five packs of unfiltered Camels every day
• He had affair with Marlene Dietrich while he was married to his second wife, Chata, who 'came right out of the brothels of Mexico'
• Wayne's favorite actor was James Garner. He said of him: ‘They rave about Brando and [George C] Scott, but they couldn’t hold a candle to him’
• When suffering cancer he lost 100 pounds, needed an oxygen tank and couldn't walk 20 feet
• He begged his sons to hand him his .38 so he could end his agony

Read more: Untrue Grit The real John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O Hara downed shots of tequila and smoked four or five packs of Camels a day Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Where do you get the idea that I said you have to be well off to join the military? I didn't.
I said that he was not as well knowen as the other actors were at the time and he was just getting his career started.

A million American boys were "just getting their career started"
They went

So?

 

[rightwinger]

Is that why we wouldn't fight in WWII?

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable also hated communists and they fought. They also had kids to support.
John Wayne made a fortune in the movies playing characters who were fighting and dying....beats actual fighting

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable were well established actors and wealthy enough to take time out from their carriers.
John Wayne had just started to become well knowen in the film Stagecoach done in 1939. He was not wealthy, at the time.
He was getting a divorce from his wife at the start of WWII and had 4 kids to support.
I don't think that it was wrong for him to choose his carrier and support his 4 kids.
You can dish out the harsh judgment about him all you want, but he used Hollywood to support our troops and the war.

So only well-off people join the military. That's a new and novel excuse. To his credit, he was apparently ashamed of being a draft dodger. Can't say that about other RW heroes, like Ted Nugent.

From three different links:


Wayne struggled with severe alcoholism, chronic infidelity, self-esteem and personal demons that often made life hell for his three wives and his children. The book painstakingly recounts the triumphs and tragedies of the life of John Wayne – who rose from abject poverty to become the world’s most famous movie star – and creates a portrait of a man haunted by a childhood of abuse; a man conflicted by his own definition of masculinity; a man fighting to control his own rage and his propensity for violence; a man who committed domestic violence against all three of his wives and his children; and a man haunted by and driven to overcome his fear of failure, poverty and ridicule.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For all his extraordinary success, it was Wayne’s failures that haunted him, in Eyman’s account. The devoted family man crashed through three marriages and reaped troubled relationships with several of his seven children. The self-styled super-patriot felt shame and guilt for dodging military service during World War II. The box office champion never felt financially secure because of bad business deals and unfaithful friends, and felt compelled to keep on working even as his health faded and his appeal diminished. Although beloved and admired by millions, Eyman writes, “he always seemed surprised and pleased by praise, perhaps because he received so little of it for so long.”

For many of us, our image of Wayne was forged in the 1960s and early ’70s, when he too often seemed a lumbering, overweight, toupee-wearing self-parody spouting simplistic, right-wing views and playing the same role over and over in largely second-rate Westerns. But before he became John Wayne Inc., Wayne was an actor of unusual authority who created a character of rough-hewn charisma, vulnerability and physical menace.

~~~~~~~~~~~
'Rome. The Excelsior Hotel. Dietrich. I took her on the staircase': New book reveals how John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O'Hara

• New book lifts lid on how off-screen John Wayne was a serial philanderer and heavy drinker
• He downed countless hots of tequila and smoked up to five packs of unfiltered Camels every day
• He had affair with Marlene Dietrich while he was married to his second wife, Chata, who 'came right out of the brothels of Mexico'
• Wayne's favorite actor was James Garner. He said of him: ‘They rave about Brando and [George C] Scott, but they couldn’t hold a candle to him’
• When suffering cancer he lost 100 pounds, needed an oxygen tank and couldn't walk 20 feet
• He begged his sons to hand him his .38 so he could end his agony

Read more: Untrue Grit The real John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O Hara downed shots of tequila and smoked four or five packs of Camels a day Daily Mail Online
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Where do you get the idea that I said you have to be well off to join the military? I didn't.
I said that he was not as well knowen as the other actors were at the time and he was just getting his career started.

A million American boys were "just getting their career started"
They went

So?

Soooooo...

The claim that Wayne should be excused because he was "just starting his career" is pretty lame.....don't you agree?

 

[peach174]

Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable were well established actors and wealthy enough to take time out from their carriers.
John Wayne had just started to become well knowen in the film Stagecoach done in 1939. He was not wealthy, at the time.
He was getting a divorce from his wife at the start of WWII and had 4 kids to support.
I don't think that it was wrong for him to choose his carrier and support his 4 kids.
You can dish out the harsh judgment about him all you want, but he used Hollywood to support our troops and the war.

So only well-off people join the military. That's a new and novel excuse. To his credit, he was apparently ashamed of being a draft dodger. Can't say that about other RW heroes, like Ted Nugent.

From three different links:


Wayne struggled with severe alcoholism, chronic infidelity, self-esteem and personal demons that often made life hell for his three wives and his children. The book painstakingly recounts the triumphs and tragedies of the life of John Wayne – who rose from abject poverty to become the world’s most famous movie star – and creates a portrait of a man haunted by a childhood of abuse; a man conflicted by his own definition of masculinity; a man fighting to control his own rage and his propensity for violence; a man who committed domestic violence against all three of his wives and his children; and a man haunted by and driven to overcome his fear of failure, poverty and ridicule.


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For all his extraordinary success, it was Wayne’s failures that haunted him, in Eyman’s account. The devoted family man crashed through three marriages and reaped troubled relationships with several of his seven children. The self-styled super-patriot felt shame and guilt for dodging military service during World War II. The box office champion never felt financially secure because of bad business deals and unfaithful friends, and felt compelled to keep on working even as his health faded and his appeal diminished. Although beloved and admired by millions, Eyman writes, “he always seemed surprised and pleased by praise, perhaps because he received so little of it for so long.”

For many of us, our image of Wayne was forged in the 1960s and early ’70s, when he too often seemed a lumbering, overweight, toupee-wearing self-parody spouting simplistic, right-wing views and playing the same role over and over in largely second-rate Westerns. But before he became John Wayne Inc., Wayne was an actor of unusual authority who created a character of rough-hewn charisma, vulnerability and physical menace.

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'Rome. The Excelsior Hotel. Dietrich. I took her on the staircase': New book reveals how John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O'Hara

• New book lifts lid on how off-screen John Wayne was a serial philanderer and heavy drinker
• He downed countless hots of tequila and smoked up to five packs of unfiltered Camels every day
• He had affair with Marlene Dietrich while he was married to his second wife, Chata, who 'came right out of the brothels of Mexico'
• Wayne's favorite actor was James Garner. He said of him: ‘They rave about Brando and [George C] Scott, but they couldn’t hold a candle to him’
• When suffering cancer he lost 100 pounds, needed an oxygen tank and couldn't walk 20 feet
• He begged his sons to hand him his .38 so he could end his agony

Read more: Untrue Grit The real John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O Hara downed shots of tequila and smoked four or five packs of Camels a day Daily Mail Online
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Where do you get the idea that I said you have to be well off to join the military? I didn't.
I said that he was not as well knowen as the other actors were at the time and he was just getting his career started.

A million American boys were "just getting their career started"
They went

So?

Soooooo...

The claim that Wayne should be excused because he was "just starting his career" is pretty lame.....don't you agree?

It was our Government that said to go easy on the Hollywood crowd for enlisting.
He took advantage of it.
Being a draft dodger while still strongly supporting our troops and the war is much better than the Hollywood crowd, that wants our Government to control everything.

 

[Ravi]

LOL! A lousy actor that made gazillions with the help of "liberal" hollywood spouting off RWNJ retardedness. I hadn't realized those RWNJ talking points had been around for so many years.

Bonus hearing that he was a draft dodger for probably the ONE war that the vast majority of Americans can now agree was a war worth fighting. What a fucking coward.

 

[rightwinger]

So only well-off people join the military. That's a new and novel excuse. To his credit, he was apparently ashamed of being a draft dodger. Can't say that about other RW heroes, like Ted Nugent.

From three different links:


Wayne struggled with severe alcoholism, chronic infidelity, self-esteem and personal demons that often made life hell for his three wives and his children. The book painstakingly recounts the triumphs and tragedies of the life of John Wayne – who rose from abject poverty to become the world’s most famous movie star – and creates a portrait of a man haunted by a childhood of abuse; a man conflicted by his own definition of masculinity; a man fighting to control his own rage and his propensity for violence; a man who committed domestic violence against all three of his wives and his children; and a man haunted by and driven to overcome his fear of failure, poverty and ridicule.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For all his extraordinary success, it was Wayne’s failures that haunted him, in Eyman’s account. The devoted family man crashed through three marriages and reaped troubled relationships with several of his seven children. The self-styled super-patriot felt shame and guilt for dodging military service during World War II. The box office champion never felt financially secure because of bad business deals and unfaithful friends, and felt compelled to keep on working even as his health faded and his appeal diminished. Although beloved and admired by millions, Eyman writes, “he always seemed surprised and pleased by praise, perhaps because he received so little of it for so long.”

For many of us, our image of Wayne was forged in the 1960s and early ’70s, when he too often seemed a lumbering, overweight, toupee-wearing self-parody spouting simplistic, right-wing views and playing the same role over and over in largely second-rate Westerns. But before he became John Wayne Inc., Wayne was an actor of unusual authority who created a character of rough-hewn charisma, vulnerability and physical menace.

~~~~~~~~~~~
'Rome. The Excelsior Hotel. Dietrich. I took her on the staircase': New book reveals how John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O'Hara

• New book lifts lid on how off-screen John Wayne was a serial philanderer and heavy drinker
• He downed countless hots of tequila and smoked up to five packs of unfiltered Camels every day
• He had affair with Marlene Dietrich while he was married to his second wife, Chata, who 'came right out of the brothels of Mexico'
• Wayne's favorite actor was James Garner. He said of him: ‘They rave about Brando and [George C] Scott, but they couldn’t hold a candle to him’
• When suffering cancer he lost 100 pounds, needed an oxygen tank and couldn't walk 20 feet
• He begged his sons to hand him his .38 so he could end his agony

Read more: Untrue Grit The real John Wayne cheated on his three wives with Marlene Dietrich and Maureen O Hara downed shots of tequila and smoked four or five packs of Camels a day Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Where do you get the idea that I said you have to be well off to join the military? I didn't.
I said that he was not as well knowen as the other actors were at the time and he was just getting his career started.

A million American boys were "just getting their career started"
They went

So?

Soooooo...

The claim that Wayne should be excused because he was "just starting his career" is pretty lame.....don't you agree?

It was our Government that said to go easy on the Hollywood crowd for enlisting.
He took advantage of it.
Being a draft dodger while still strongly supporting our troops and the war is much better than the Hollywood crowd, that wants our Government to control everything.

Wayne ducked the draft and lived. Made a fortune in movies while others were fighting and dying

Doesn't make him an American hero and doesn't excuse his war hawking the Viet Nam war

 

[BluesLegend]

I see libs are busy hating John Wayne while they fawn over men who molest interns in the White House committing adultery and demonstrating what a disgusting pig he is.

 

[BlueGin]

Libs are so cute... The way they trash John Wayne for not serving and actual soldiers that did.... all in the same thread.

 

[BlueGin]

I see libs are busy hating John Wayne while they fawn over men who molest interns in the White House committing adultery and demonstrating what a disgusting pig he is.

A draft dodger no less