CDZ Japan has a better national health care than us: why?

[JakeStarkey]

I really do want to know why we can't do as well or better: we are America. Let's see if we can discuss this without personal attacks, name calling, flaming etc. Let's be polite.

 

[Moonglow]

They don't have a trillion dollar a year military..

 

[Tank]

They don't have millions of blacks and hispanics to take care of

 

[koshergrl]

Japan doesn't spend money on illegal aliens, and they don't encourage criminal cultures in their society. If you want to become a citizen, you have to prove #1 that you will embrace Japan's national ideology before any other, and #2, that you can provide adequately for yourself.

America doesn't do those things. We invite criminals across our borders, and we feed and provide them with everything they want. We encourage them to shit on and in our country, and encourage them and often pay them to riot against Americans and American values.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I don't get why we can't look at such a model for America. Why??? Why does it have to be worse then the ACA that we currently have.

 

[Tank]

Could Japan even handle all the black and hispanic shootings and stabbings?

 

[koshergrl]

Could Japan even handle all the black and hispanic shootings and stabbings?

It just would never happen. They have a strong, traditional, values-based system. The community and the state both frown upon criminality and other forms of depravity. They REALLY frown upon people who are not productive members of society. And when people act out, they throw them in jail where they belong.

 

[Pete7469]

Japan doesn't spend money on illegal aliens, and they don't encourage criminal cultures in their society. If you want to become a citizen, you have to prove #1 that you will embrace Japan's national ideology before any other, and #2, that you can provide adequately for yourself.

America doesn't do those things. We invite criminals across our borders, and we feed and provide them with everything they want. We encourage them to shit on and in our country, and encourage them and often pay them to riot against Americans and American values.

I believe that Japanese culture would preclude them from wasting HC resources just because it's "free".

 

[SYTFE]

Of course Japan has one of the best diets in the world, and the lowest obesity rate to boot.

 

[JakeStarkey]

OK. The two biggest issues I am hearing are the size of our military and the permissiveness of our society with criminal and non-productive elements.

I will add a third: the health care and health care insurance industries lobbying Congress and the state leges for protecting their interests.

Although the Japanese do not have the obesity factor that we do, the smoke and drink in much higher percentiles that we do.

 

[Sunni Man]

They live on a healthy rice and vegetable diet. ...

 

[Mac1958]

Of course Japan has one of the best diets in the world, and the lowest obesity rate to boot.

That's definitely an important part of the equation that's often overlooked.
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[Hossfly]

When medicine became an industry in America that was the beginning of the end. When hospitals and medical centers started selling stocks on Wall Street, that was the end. Regardless of whether this is 2017, a family should be able to pay for medical, dental and medicine without having to have an expensive insurance with astronomical deductibles. I and a lot of older people can remember the forties and fifties when the average person didn't have or need insurance. You could get a tooth filled for less than $25 and you could see the doctor and get a prescription and not have to get a second mortgage on your house. Politicians, as someone said, could put a stop to this highway robbery but then they wouldn't get kickbacks and perks. It's a national shame.

 

[2aguy]

I really do want to know why we can't do as well or better: we are America. Let's see if we can discuss this without personal attacks, name calling, flaming etc. Let's be polite.

No...actually, it doesn't....it is running out of money.....and the service sucks...

 

[2aguy]

The truth about Japan....




Not all smiles



Like other service industries in Japan, there are cumbersome rules, too many small players and few incentives to improve.

Doctors are too few—one-third less than the rich-world average, relative to the population—because of state quotas. Shortages of doctors are severe in rural areas and in certain specialities, such as surgery, paediatrics and obstetrics.

The latter two shortages are blamed on the country's low birth rate, but practitioners say that they really arise because income is partly determined by numbers of tests and drugs prescribed, and there are fewer of these for children and pregnant women.

Doctors are worked to the bone for relatively low pay (around $125,000 a year at mid-career). One doctor in his 30s says he works more than 100 hours a week. “How can I find time to do research? Write an article? Check back on patients?” he asks.


----On the positive side, patients can nearly always see a doctor within a day. But they must often wait hours for a three-minute consultation. Complicated cases get too little attention. The Japanese are only a quarter as likely as the Americans or French to suffer a heart attack, but twice as likely to die if they do.

Some doctors see as many as 100 patients a day. Because their salaries are low, they tend to overprescribe tests and drugs. (Clinics often own their own pharmacies.) They also earn money, hotel-like, by keeping patients in bed. Simple surgery that in the West would involve no overnight stay, such as a hernia operation, entails a five-day hospital stay in Japan.

Emergency care is often poor. In lesser cities it is not uncommon for ambulances to cruise the streets calling a succession of emergency rooms to find one that can cram in a patient. In a few cases people have died because of this. One reason for a shortage of emergency care is an abundance of small clinics instead of big hospitals. Doctors prefer them because they can work less and earn more.

 

[boedicca]

I really do want to know why we can't do as well or better: we are America. Let's see if we can discuss this without personal attacks, name calling, flaming etc. Let's be polite.

You really want to trade economies with Japan?

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[2aguy]

They don't have a trillion dollar a year military..

Yes....they rely on our military to protect them from China....a country that is just waiting to pay them back for World War 2....

 

[Cellblock2429]

I really do want to know why we can't do as well or better: we are America. Let's see if we can discuss this without personal attacks, name calling, flaming etc. Let's be polite.

/--- Who picks up the tab for their national defense?


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[Bleipriester]

When medicine became an industry in America that was the beginning of the end. When hospitals and medical centers started selling stocks on Wall Street, that was the end. Regardless of whether this is 2017, a family should be able to pay for medical, dental and medicine without having to have an expensive insurance with astronomical deductibles. I and a lot of older people can remember the forties and fifties when the average person didn't have or need insurance. You could get a tooth filled for less than $25 and you could see the doctor and get a prescription and not have to get a second mortgage on your house. Politicians, as someone said, could put a stop to this highway robbery but then they wouldn't get kickbacks and perks. It's a national shame.

They would be called evil red SOCIALISTS who maliciously provide health care to the people!

 

[Moonglow]

When medicine became an industry in America that was the beginning of the end. When hospitals and medical centers started selling stocks on Wall Street, that was the end. Regardless of whether this is 2017, a family should be able to pay for medical, dental and medicine without having to have an expensive insurance with astronomical deductibles. I and a lot of older people can remember the forties and fifties when the average person didn't have or need insurance. You could get a tooth filled for less than $25 and you could see the doctor and get a prescription and not have to get a second mortgage on your house. Politicians, as someone said, could put a stop to this highway robbery but then they wouldn't get kickbacks and perks. It's a national shame.

In 1984 when my first son was born, it cost me $2,400 dollars and I paid cash, my last one in 2002 was $24,000.. Lucky I had insurance...