CDZ Are we American first?

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    As Americans, are we all first and foremost American citizens, or do you believe it is by our racial ethnicity, gender(s), etc that we should be labeled?
    Personally, I think religion is as big or bigger than patriotism, but I would like to hear what you have to say
     
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    I'm just American, but then I'm a WASP and my folks all got here before it was a country. And I'm not a believer, either, so nothing between me and the red white and blue.
     
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    We all should be Americans first, but with the influx of other nationals, it often is found that the new arrivals do not assimillate into our society. Some new entries from other countries want to live in America where the "streets are lined with gold", or at least you can find a job. Others are here to do harm to our citizen and way of life.

    I believe we should strongly vet new comers with full knowledge, when they break our laws, they will have to find another country to take them in.
     
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    It's changing. More and more now are hyphenated Americans, and there are obviously many who aren't thrilled about this place and happy to see that.

    I'm mixed race (half Hispanic), but we've never thought of ourselves as anything other than Americans. In fact, I'll bet I've discussed my ethnicity more on this site than I have in the rest of my life combined. I just don't see any relevance otherwise. It's trivial.

    You're not a melting pot when you have ethnicity-based lines of demarcation and when you're scolded for "cultural appropriation". So we're becoming something else.
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    Fortunately, religion and patriotism are separate issues in America. Unfortunately, race and sex have become predominant issues for many people. Sad!
     
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    America first
    I'm agnostic so religion isn't even on my radar.
     
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    The big thing here is as long as your religion does not infringe on my rights it just plum doesn't matter to me.

    In all regards we are effectively American.

    You will not be persecuted for being the wrong type of christian or the wrong type of muslim or whatever.
     
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    Geographically, yes. In other regards, not so much.
     
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    In what regards?
     
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    I think it's pretty clear in this day and age we are not.
     
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