Its over for Obama, this is why

My bet is that people will choose to stick with a guy who has one 3-bedroom home in Chicago and a Ford Escape Hybrid in his garage. People take it personally when an asshole like Romney mocks them without even realizing it.
 
My bet is that people will choose to stick with a guy who has one 3-bedroom home in Chicago and a Ford Escape Hybrid in his garage. People take it personally when an asshole like Romney mocks them without even realizing it.

My bet is that people don't give a fuck what car is in someone's garage unless it happens to be their own.
 
man is the right going to be disappointed this November.


I wonder how many people will completely lose their minds when Obama is re elected?


It's laughable that they think people will actually vote for the MittBot. His latest chuckle about his dad closing the factory in Michigan plus installing elevators for his cars ....You just can't make this stuff up.

Oh, and Santorum is yesterday's news.

I can see these poor misguided wingnuts getting excited if they actually had a viable candidate.

1) Congress which be GOP, will be the difference
2) Who said Mitt is what we are exited about?, its BHO will be gone

No you cannot, Obama iinvolving his self in a shooting in Florida that is none of his business along with telling the russians let me get elected first then we will deal?
no you cannot make this stuff up
 
Obama is a third Bush term that is why I am voting Romney.

Regardless obama or mittens it will be a 4th bush, but cute that you think otherwise.

Yea I would hate 5% UE and deficts that were 163 billion
Damn what would we do with that?
Those days were the worst, we are so much better off now huh?

Dems took cogress over in 07 and the white house in 09 and boy has it gotten better huh?
 
My bet is that people will choose to stick with a guy who has one 3-bedroom home in Chicago and a Ford Escape Hybrid in his garage. People take it personally when an asshole like Romney mocks them without even realizing it.

My bet is that people don't give a fuck what car is in someone's garage unless it happens to be their own.

Although I am reminded about one political fuck up involving a car. It was a parade in New Mexico I was at with my brother and some liberal jackass running for Congress was riding down the street with a bullhorn saying how he would support and defend the American worker. My brother screamed out "then why are you riding in a Mazda?" The entire crowd started laughing. I can assure you some aide got his ass kicked later that evening.
 
the primaries didnt show any GOP excitment folks.


Please dont go killing people after you lose this election
 
CNN Poll: Afghan war support hits new low – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

HURT: Brutal week for Obama, the worst of his presidency - Washington Times


Obama allowed the GOP to vote on his budget numbers, that for some reason his own party voted the same

The war has found a place with 0 leadership from Washington. I remeber the left in 05 and 06 blaming GWB for every-thing, the war in Iraq was lost. But with his leadersdhip look where it is today and where the war in Afgahn is. BHO has had 3 years to alter its path

His helath-care reform bill has done nothing but split this nation worse than it was, as the left keep saying "brace yourself for another 5-4 vote"

The ever changing "available work force" numbers have the UE rate @ 8.4%, its fooling no-one

Gas, stating the supply has nothing to do with the price of gas while "leaking" news that the SPR is about to "sell" some more oil the tax payer owns to lower the price, by adding to the supply?

As the President, an event in Florida in which a minor was shot, has no place for him, much less the Rev Jesse Jackson, he needs to realize who he is getting in bed with while millions still are without a job and gas is close to 4.00 a gallon

whats up with the "after the election" comment with the Russians? The american people are on a need to know basis?

The wheels have come off, and all he knows to do is the same thing he did in 2008

Obama lied his way into the white-house in 08, that will fail him in 2012

The OP only succeeds in exhibiting his ignorance of American presidential politics, in that the majority of the voters vote the issues.

They don’t.

They vote for whom they like, and think will win – currently that’s Obama.

In order for Romney to pull this off, he’ll need a significant number of voters who voted for Obama in 2008 to vote for him, and that’s simply not going to happen, particularly with regard to democrats, as Romney lacks the charisma and gravitas found in a Reagan or Clinton.

Moreover, Romney will need a significant number of Obama’s base to stay home, also very unlikely given the idiotic attacks by republicans with regard to Obama’s place of birth and religion, and the GOP’s inane focusing on such non-issues as contraception and pornography. The imminent invalidation of the ACA will also serve as motivation for democrats to ‘get out the vote.'

Indeed, republicans have managed to do everything possible to undermine Romney, and make his efforts that much more difficult.

Last, Romney is simply a poor candidate and campaigner overall, the voters realize that, and will reject him accordingly.
 
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CNN Poll: Afghan war support hits new low – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

HURT: Brutal week for Obama, the worst of his presidency - Washington Times


Obama allowed the GOP to vote on his budget numbers, that for some reason his own party voted the same

The war has found a place with 0 leadership from Washington. I remeber the left in 05 and 06 blaming GWB for every-thing, the war in Iraq was lost. But with his leadersdhip look where it is today and where the war in Afgahn is. BHO has had 3 years to alter its path

His helath-care reform bill has done nothing but split this nation worse than it was, as the left keep saying "brace yourself for another 5-4 vote"

The ever changing "available work force" numbers have the UE rate @ 8.4%, its fooling no-one

Gas, stating the supply has nothing to do with the price of gas while "leaking" news that the SPR is about to "sell" some more oil the tax payer owns to lower the price, by adding to the supply?

As the President, an event in Florida in which a minor was shot, has no place for him, much less the Rev Jesse Jackson, he needs to realize who he is getting in bed with while millions still are without a job and gas is close to 4.00 a gallon

whats up with the "after the election" comment with the Russians? The american people are on a need to know basis?

The wheels have come off, and all he knows to do is the same thing he did in 2008

Obama lied his way into the white-house in 08, that will fail him in 2012

The OP only succeeds in exhibiting his ignorance of American presidential politics, in that the majority of the voters vote the issues.

They don’t.

They vote for whom they like, and think will win – currently that’s Obama.

In order for Romney to pull this off, he’ll need a significant number of voters who voted for Obama in 2008 to vote for him, and that’s simply not going to happen, particularly with regard to democrats, as Romney lacks the charisma and gravitas found in a Reagan or Clinton.

Moreover, Romney will need a significant number of Obama’s base to stay home, also very unlikely given the idiotic attacks by republicans with regard to Obama’s place of birth and religion, and the GOP’s inane focusing on such non-issues as contraception and pornography. The imminent invalidation of the ACA will also serve as motivation for democrats to ‘get out the vote.'

Indeed, republicans have managed to do everything possible to undermine Romney, and make his efforts that much more difficult.

Last, Romney is simply a poor candidate and campaigner overall, the voters realize that, and will reject him accordingly.

They did not vote the issues in 2008, I agree
They will today
Romney is awful, BHO is somewhere so far below that I do not know the word that will describe it

people are tired of this economy
tierd of race baiting
tired of a president who spent 2 years cramming down a health-care reform bill that the will of the people were against
Not reform, his idea of reform

41% approval rating means that BHO is allong way from getting re-elected
 
The OP only succeeds in exhibiting his ignorance of American presidential politics, in that the majority of the voters vote the issues.

They don’t.

They vote for whom they like, and think will win – currently that’s Obama.

I agree on the first part. Not so sure about the second. The RCP average currently has Obama up by only 4.5 and that's with the CNN/ORC outlier poll. Pitch that and it's pretty close to the margin of error if not within it. That's with a divided Republican party. Once Romney gets the nomination and the GOP unites it will boost Romney's numbers, especially if that happens sooner rather than later. At this point, if I were Obama I would be VERY concerned about that spread.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama

In order for Romney to pull this off, he’ll need a significant number of voters who voted for Obama in 2008 to vote for him, and that’s simply not going to happen, particularly with regard to democrats, as Romney lacks the charisma and gravitas found in a Reagan or Clinton.

Just comes down to the Independents as always. Currently the signals are mixed. Some polls show Independent support rising for Obama and some show it declining. Most recently it has ticked up a bit but his support among Independents was at roughly 33% just two months ago according to some polls. Just depends on what happens, but again...right now if I were Obama I would be very concerned.

Moreover, Romney will need a significant number of Obama’s base to stay home, also very unlikely given the idiotic attacks by republicans with regard to Obama’s place of birth and religion, and the GOP’s inane focusing on such non-issues as contraception and pornography. The imminent invalidation of the ACA will also serve as motivation for democrats to ‘get out the vote.'

No he won't. That would help of course but all he needs is the Independents. The Republicans and Democrats will basically equal each other out. Happens every time and this one will be no different. Additionally that porno and religious shit is coming from Santorum, not Romney and everyone is well aware of it. Gonna be hard to stick that on Romney's head, but it won't stop the left from trying.

Indeed, republicans have managed to do everything possible to undermine Romney, and make his efforts that much more difficult.


Well I will say that conservatives and the religious right have managed to do everything possible to undermine Romney. The rest of the party I would disagree about and Independents frankly don't care about the GOP's current internal squabbling.
 
I'm completely entertained by republican posters who limit themselves to RW "news" daily. Please understand, the majority are not easily manipulated by lies, hate and fear. Y'all are not the reasonable among us and the reasonable folks will elect the next president. You are only a small small portion of the population but think you are the majority. You can still hold out hope, though. republican governors are busy attacking democracy by suppressing as many votes as they can. If Obama does not have at least a 10 point lead going into November, y'all stand a chance. You need a kenny blackwell, a jeb bush or a katherine harris handling elections in some of those swing states too.
 
The OP only succeeds in exhibiting his ignorance of American presidential politics, in that the majority of the voters vote the issues.

They don’t.

They vote for whom they like, and think will win – currently that’s Obama.

I agree on the first part. Not so sure about the second. The RCP average currently has Obama up by only 4.5 and that's with the CNN/ORC outlier poll. Pitch that and it's pretty close to the margin of error if not within it. That's with a divided Republican party. Once Romney gets the nomination and the GOP unites it will boost Romney's numbers, especially if that happens sooner rather than later. At this point, if I were Obama I would be VERY concerned about that spread.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama

In order for Romney to pull this off, he’ll need a significant number of voters who voted for Obama in 2008 to vote for him, and that’s simply not going to happen, particularly with regard to democrats, as Romney lacks the charisma and gravitas found in a Reagan or Clinton.

Just comes down to the Independents as always. Currently the signals are mixed. Some polls show Independent support rising for Obama and some show it declining. Most recently it has ticked up a bit but his support among Independents was at roughly 33% just two months ago according to some polls. Just depends on what happens, but again...right now if I were Obama I would be very concerned.

Moreover, Romney will need a significant number of Obama’s base to stay home, also very unlikely given the idiotic attacks by republicans with regard to Obama’s place of birth and religion, and the GOP’s inane focusing on such non-issues as contraception and pornography. The imminent invalidation of the ACA will also serve as motivation for democrats to ‘get out the vote.'

No he won't. That would help of course but all he needs is the Independents. The Republicans and Democrats will basically equal each other out. Happens every time and this one will be no different. Additionally that porno and religious shit is coming from Santorum, not Romney and everyone is well aware of it. Gonna be hard to stick that on Romney's head, but it won't stop the left from trying.

Indeed, republicans have managed to do everything possible to undermine Romney, and make his efforts that much more difficult.


Well I will say that conservatives and the religious right have managed to do everything possible to undermine Romney. The rest of the party I would disagree about and Independents frankly don't care about the GOP's current internal squabbling.

Thats a very detailed thread, but I have a couple of simple question's to any-one who thinks this is not a slam dunk

How can you have a poll at this time with the GOP nominee? we have no idea who that is yet

How can any-one be re-elected president who has a 41-43% approval rating while at the same time have a majority voting block?

KISS (keep it simple st----)

As far as Romney goes, you think the religous right or the tea party will stay home in Novemeber?
 
Thats a very detailed thread, but I have a couple of simple question's to any-one who thinks this is not a slam dunk

How can you have a poll at this time with the GOP nominee? we have no idea who that is yet

Well they ask "if Romney is the nominee how will you vote?", then "If Santorum is the nominee how will you vote?", etc. The problem is that right now the Republican party is split so people who are Santorum supporters right now have a tendency to cop the "If it's not Santorum I will vote for Obama in protest or not vote at all" attitude. Well....bullshit. Hillary supporters were making the exact same claim in 2008. When the election rolls around they will vote for Romney and everyone knows it, but right now it will skew the polls. This is why I say that Obama should be very worried about the lead he has right now. All things being equal it won't hold up.

How can any-one be re-elected president who has a 41-43% approval rating while at the same time have a majority voting block?

Not a good omen, huh?


As far as Romney goes, you think the religous right or the tea party will stay home in Novemeber?

Not a fucking chance
 
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Thats a very detailed thread, but I have a couple of simple question's to any-one who thinks this is not a slam dunk

How can you have a poll at this time with the GOP nominee? we have no idea who that is yet

Well they ask "if Romney is the nominee how will you vote?", then "If Santorum is the nominee how will you vote?", etc. The problem is that right now the Republican party is split so people who are Santorum supporters right now have a tendency to cop the "If it's not Santorum I will vote for Obama in protest or not vote at all" attitude. Well....bullshit. Hillary supporters were making the exact same claim in 2008. When the election rolls around they will vote for Romney and everyone knows it, but right now it will skew the polls. This is why I say that Obama should be very worried about the lead he has right now. All things being equal it won't hold up.

How can any-one be re-elected president who has a 41-43% approval rating while at the same time have a majority voting block?

Not a good omen, huh?


As far as Romney goes, you think the religous right or the tea party will stay home in Novemeber?

Not a fucking chance

Those polls as you noted are a joke
Look if some miracle comes along before Novemeber Obama gets re elected. That would mean UE below 7% (or should I say 3 million people getting hired, I am sure the available work force # will "dip" again)
What the libs cannot grasp is you do not need a UE rate to tell people were our job market is
Ask your neighbor, every-one I know has some-one close in there faimly scratching and UE or broke a-- because there working at a job out of desperation

Worrying (race baiting) about the race of a 17 year old kid getting shot in an incident in Florida is not what we elect the president to do, as stupid as the event was, its a local issue that saddly is going on daily in this country
Thats what the "rec Sharpton" does, and if BHO does not watch it his approval rating will be in the same place
You cannot have 50% of this country dis approving of his performance while at the same time having him re-elected
 
It's over for Obama because all those people that voted for him out of some kind of inner need to prove to themselves that they certainly aren't racist won't have to prove that to themselves again this time. This time they'll need to prove how smart they can be by not choosing based on exterior color (it's what's under the hood that counts, choose something running on more than 3 cylinders this time please, people). And, that commie can't bribe and buy as many votes with any real promises of free entitlements/kickbacks this time either because our nation is now worse than broke, were in debt. Embarrassing. Ghetto. Who wants more of that?
 
CNN Poll: Afghan war support hits new low – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

HURT: Brutal week for Obama, the worst of his presidency - Washington Times


Obama allowed the GOP to vote on his budget numbers, that for some reason his own party voted the same

The war has found a place with 0 leadership from Washington. I remeber the left in 05 and 06 blaming GWB for every-thing, the war in Iraq was lost. But with his leadersdhip look where it is today and where the war in Afgahn is. BHO has had 3 years to alter its path

His helath-care reform bill has done nothing but split this nation worse than it was, as the left keep saying "brace yourself for another 5-4 vote"

The ever changing "available work force" numbers have the UE rate @ 8.4%, its fooling no-one

Gas, stating the supply has nothing to do with the price of gas while "leaking" news that the SPR is about to "sell" some more oil the tax payer owns to lower the price, by adding to the supply?

As the President, an event in Florida in which a minor was shot, has no place for him, much less the Rev Jesse Jackson, he needs to realize who he is getting in bed with while millions still are without a job and gas is close to 4.00 a gallon

whats up with the "after the election" comment with the Russians? The american people are on a need to know basis?

The wheels have come off, and all he knows to do is the same thing he did in 2008

Obama lied his way into the white-house in 08, that will fail him in 2012

You're citing the Moonie Paper as a source? Seriously?

Actually, I would say that there's a 90% chance Obama will be elected to a second term, mostly because the GOP has shot itself in the foot pretty much every day since the 2010 midterms.
 
It's over for Obama because all those people that voted for him out of some kind of inner need to prove to themselves that they certainly aren't racist won't have to prove that to themselves again this time. This time they'll need to prove how smart they can be by not choosing based on exterior color (it's what's under the hood that counts, choose something running on more than 3 cylinders this time please, people). And, that commie can't bribe and buy as many votes with any real promises of free entitlements/kickbacks this time either because our nation is now worse than broke, were in debt. Embarrassing. Ghetto. Who wants more of that?

Again, you work on the assumption that folks who voted for Obama were trying to "prove they weren't racist".

I've never met a person yet whose told me, "I voted for Obama, you can't ever call me a racist". Probably because that person would be laughed at.

People voted for Obama because Bush had failed so miserably, and McCain didn't offer much of a difference.

And neither will Romney.

Let's assume that there are folks out there who voted for Obama and now realize that they made a huge mistake. How often do you admit major mistakes? Do you say, "Wow, I really fucked up big time", or do you rationalize your mistake in some way?

Fact is, you need a really compelling guy to get someone to admit to themselves they made a mistake and make a really different choice.

And Mitt Romney is not that compelling. He's having a hard time with an internet punchline who was polling in single digits four months ago.
 
CNN Poll: Afghan war support hits new low – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

HURT: Brutal week for Obama, the worst of his presidency - Washington Times


Obama allowed the GOP to vote on his budget numbers, that for some reason his own party voted the same

The war has found a place with 0 leadership from Washington. I remeber the left in 05 and 06 blaming GWB for every-thing, the war in Iraq was lost. But with his leadersdhip look where it is today and where the war in Afgahn is. BHO has had 3 years to alter its path

His helath-care reform bill has done nothing but split this nation worse than it was, as the left keep saying "brace yourself for another 5-4 vote"

The ever changing "available work force" numbers have the UE rate @ 8.4%, its fooling no-one

Gas, stating the supply has nothing to do with the price of gas while "leaking" news that the SPR is about to "sell" some more oil the tax payer owns to lower the price, by adding to the supply?

As the President, an event in Florida in which a minor was shot, has no place for him, much less the Rev Jesse Jackson, he needs to realize who he is getting in bed with while millions still are without a job and gas is close to 4.00 a gallon

whats up with the "after the election" comment with the Russians? The american people are on a need to know basis?

The wheels have come off, and all he knows to do is the same thing he did in 2008

Obama lied his way into the white-house in 08, that will fail him in 2012

You're citing the Moonie Paper as a source? Seriously?

Actually, I would say that there's a 90% chance Obama will be elected to a second term, mostly because the GOP has shot itself in the foot pretty much every day since the 2010 midterms.

So using a third party source is a bad thing?
your theroy of BHO being re-elected has me confused as the Dems still control the senate, this is what you really think will re-elect BHO?
Because of congress?
explain that to us if you would please

You know how congress is keeping the pipeline from being built
and how congress is stopping drilling on public lands?
and how congress claimed that there stimulus would create millions of jobs when we are still short of 2009 levels?
And how congress stuck there nose in places and events they did not belong
explain to us why congress made BHO tell the Russians to wait until after BHO was re-elected

PLEASE
 
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I've never met a person yet whose told me, "I voted for Obama, you can't ever call me a racist". Probably because that person would be laughed at.

You've proved my point, that's exactly why many won't admit such a thing. Yet you and I and many many others KNOW that MANY did vote for Obama simply because he said he was and looked black. Blacks even admitted they voted for him because he is, or they thought he was, a fellow brother .. and would give them all free shit.

LOL, what we need now at this dire moment is a female candidate, hey, a gay one to boot. Obama would be sure to loose in the mad rush of everyone trying to prove to themselves they ain't a chauvinist or homophobe, LOL. :lol:

I can't see any other reason anyone might feel compelled to vote for Obama other than to prove they aren't (or weren't) a racist, or do you want to be a slave to a dear leader nanny state that mingles in your personal life and affairs?
 
It's over for Obama because all those people that voted for him out of some kind of inner need to prove to themselves that they certainly aren't racist won't have to prove that to themselves again this time. This time they'll need to prove how smart they can be by not choosing based on exterior color (it's what's under the hood that counts, choose something running on more than 3 cylinders this time please, people). And, that commie can't bribe and buy as many votes with any real promises of free entitlements/kickbacks this time either because our nation is now worse than broke, were in debt. Embarrassing. Ghetto. Who wants more of that?

Again, you work on the assumption that folks who voted for Obama were trying to "prove they weren't racist".

I've never met a person yet whose told me, "I voted for Obama, you can't ever call me a racist". Probably because that person would be laughed at.

People voted for Obama because Bush had failed so miserably, and McCain didn't offer much of a difference.

And neither will Romney.

Let's assume that there are folks out there who voted for Obama and now realize that they made a huge mistake. How often do you admit major mistakes? Do you say, "Wow, I really fucked up big time", or do you rationalize your mistake in some way?

Fact is, you need a really compelling guy to get someone to admit to themselves they made a mistake and make a really different choice.

And Mitt Romney is not that compelling. He's having a hard time with an internet punchline who was polling in single digits four months ago.

oh Joe give it a rest. You don't exactly look at Romney objectively. You have started entire threads about how much you hate Mormons, don't trust Mormons, think Mormons are crazy, will never do business with a Mormon, blah, blah blah. Don't you think you are just a little bit biased?
 

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