Israel attacks Gaza strip after Hamas armed wing parade

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, I cannot believe you said that.

The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 broke out when five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate immediately following the announcement of the independence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948. In 1947, and again on May 14, 1948, the United States had offered de facto recognition of the Israeli Provisional Government, but during the war, the United States maintained an arms embargo against all belligerents.

After Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948, the fighting intensified with other Arab forces joining the Palestinian Arabs in attacking territory in the former Palestinian mandate. On the eve of May 14, the Arabs launched an air attack on Tel Aviv, which the Israelis resisted. This action was followed by the invasion of the former Palestinian mandate by Arab armies from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Saudi Arabia sent a formation that fought under the Egyptian command. British trained forces from Transjordan eventually intervened in the conflict, but only in areas that had been designated as part of the Arab state under the United Nations Partition Plan and the corpus separatum of Jerusalem. After tense early fighting, Israeli forces, now under joint command, were able to gain the offensive.
SOURCE: Milestones 1945-1952 The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 Office of Historian Department of State

[
You are slinging Israeli shit again.

Nobody attacked Israel.

(COMMENT)

Five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate immediately following the announcement of the independence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948.

Five Arab States had deployed their armed forces in a coordinated attack on positions outside their borders.
On mid-night, 14 May 1948, the British disengaged its forces. On the same day, the Jewish Agency announced Independence for the State of Israel on the territory allotted to it by the partition plan. The Arab League States immediately broke into conflict against Jewish communities; entered the territory under the pretext to assist the Palestinian Arabs. While the Lebanese and Syrians made no gains, the Jordanians and the Egyptians used the pretext to expand their territories; Egypt taking the Gaza Strip and the Jordanian taking the entirety of the West Bank.

Most Respectfully,
R

Five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate​

That would be Palestine not Israel.

The former mandate became Israel and Palestine never became a country.They're still Territories.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

In any century long dispute, small or large, there are going to be mistakes on both sides of the argument (whatever it may be).

You did not mention the UNPC that was supposed to take over the Mandate in 1948 but failed to protect the people and land under its trust.

You did not mention the UNCCP that was charged to solve the Palestinian problem but failed to do its job.

(COMMENT)

As far as the UNPC is concernment, the Arab League invaded the territory outside their jurisdiction and venue. That necessitated a change in the organizational structure and the mission/mandate. The United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine (UNCCP) assumed the functions given to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine by the resolution of the General Assembly of 14 May 1948. The Arab Invasion began the following day in violation of the Charter [Chapter 1, Article 2(4) --- refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state].

The Decolonization by the UN does not cover Palestine even though the colonizing of Palestine was mentioned in other UN resolutions.

(COMMENT)

Without regard to what you think the Decolonization means (using your layman's definition and the interpretation of what YOU think the other non-binding resolutions contribute) in actual fact nowhere near Israel or in the adjacent or immediate vicinity, is there a colonial power at work for the purpose of acquiring territory.

There is a pile of other UN resolutions that address the Palestine problem sitting on the shelf collecting dust with no action taken.

(COMMENT)

Yes, that may be what you see. That does not mean that these dust collectors have not been overtaken by events or superseded in some other fashion.

Just because the UN consistently fails the Palestinians does not change the facts on the ground. Israel is the colonization of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

This appears to be a poor interpretation of what is going on as well.

The establishment of the Jewish State of Israel is not the result of a colonization process. No matter what you want to call the Immigration procedures to encourage and facilitate the close settlement by all Jews on the land --- who are willing to assist in the establishment and reconstitution of their Jewish national home.

Without regard to what the Hostile Arab Palestinians may think today, it was always the case that the Allied Powers having acquired the title and all rights to the territory in question, have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917.

It was not the case that the territory in question --- which was placed under the Enemy Occupied Territory Administration --- was in any fashion --- Arab Palestinian Territory. In the time of the Armistice of Mudros (1918), and the Treaty of Sevres (1920) to the Treaty of Lausanne (1924), The entire case for the hostility generated by the Arab Community and the Palestinians in particular, collapses when it is examined that all the outside territorial frontiers was renounces in favor of the Principal Allied Powers along with all rights and title which she could claim on any ground over or concerning any territories. There is no question here. It is what it is. And all apportionments that the Allied Powers offered to the Arab Palestinians from a time before the last Treaty, to the present day, were rejected by the Arab Palestinians in lieu of "nothing."

Most Respectfully,
R

The establishment of the Jewish State of Israel is not the result of a colonization process.​

The British and the Zionists called it colonialism. History calls it colonialism. The Palestinians and others still call it colonialism. The facts on the ground call it colonialism.

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism


In other words, while colonialism typically refers to events, settler-colonialism is viewed as an ongoing process. Professor LeFevre puts it this way: “Settler colonialism is premised on occupation and the elimination of the native population, while colonialism is primarily about conquest.”

Given this definition, the claim that Zionism is a form of settler colonialism it is not at all inappropriate

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism​

What do you have that says different?

Links?

 

[Phoenall]

What crimes, the make believe ones. Every new defense minister needs to struck his stuff, and well its the 2 year anniversary, we can't let those who live in Gaza think Israel has turned soft.

Firing rockets across the border is a war crime and it is time the UN took action.

Perhaps they would if the entire dance was not mutual.

It's ignorant to believe that israel.ever wants those ineffective rockets to stop

Only if you dance to the islamonazi tune

come on. what makes you think israel wants the rockets to stop? they cause no real damage and give israel cover for whatever it does as well as providing a convenient 'threat' that lets them solicit aid from countries like the united states.

BULLSHIT they have caused a lot of damage, just as the unfortunates in gaza when one has landed there. It is only the anti semites and islamonazi's that make this claim, just as they claim the wall stops them from killing Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

Pro palestinians hold such great care for Palestinian rights, whine about a freaking water tower, but launching rockets upon children heads' is acceptable in their book.

Well F#ck you. You're hypocrites. Hamas targets were hit. Not civilians. I wish the IDF would do it everyday.

P.S- Penelope, you need to understand. Nobody cares what you believe or not

a water tower is a hamas target?

If hamas use it for more than a water tower then yes, read the Geneva conventions it is all detailed in there

just be honest - you don't care what it is used for, you will excuse any israeli action.

No that is you in regards for illegal attacks on the Jews. The Jews have the right to defend themselves and if you buy a subscription to Google Earth you can see the rockets being fired in real time. But that would burst your bubble and prove that you are wrong every time in regards to Israel's actions against the arab muslim terrorists. Typical nazi Jew hater stance is to blame the Jews for everything

you are far more nazi than i'll ever be.

NEVER and that is a proven fact, you support islaminazi terrorism and this makes you a NAZI

 

[Mindful]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, I cannot believe you said that.

The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 broke out when five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate immediately following the announcement of the independence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948. In 1947, and again on May 14, 1948, the United States had offered de facto recognition of the Israeli Provisional Government, but during the war, the United States maintained an arms embargo against all belligerents.

After Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948, the fighting intensified with other Arab forces joining the Palestinian Arabs in attacking territory in the former Palestinian mandate. On the eve of May 14, the Arabs launched an air attack on Tel Aviv, which the Israelis resisted. This action was followed by the invasion of the former Palestinian mandate by Arab armies from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Saudi Arabia sent a formation that fought under the Egyptian command. British trained forces from Transjordan eventually intervened in the conflict, but only in areas that had been designated as part of the Arab state under the United Nations Partition Plan and the corpus separatum of Jerusalem. After tense early fighting, Israeli forces, now under joint command, were able to gain the offensive.
SOURCE: Milestones 1945-1952 The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 Office of Historian Department of State

[
You are slinging Israeli shit again.

Nobody attacked Israel.

(COMMENT)

Five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate immediately following the announcement of the independence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948.

Five Arab States had deployed their armed forces in a coordinated attack on positions outside their borders.
On mid-night, 14 May 1948, the British disengaged its forces. On the same day, the Jewish Agency announced Independence for the State of Israel on the territory allotted to it by the partition plan. The Arab League States immediately broke into conflict against Jewish communities; entered the territory under the pretext to assist the Palestinian Arabs. While the Lebanese and Syrians made no gains, the Jordanians and the Egyptians used the pretext to expand their territories; Egypt taking the Gaza Strip and the Jordanian taking the entirety of the West Bank.

Most Respectfully,
R

Five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate​

That would be Palestine not Israel.

The former mandate became Israel and Palestine never became a country.They're still Territories.

Are they still pushing this lame tired out fairy tale?

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, I cannot believe you said that.

The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 broke out when five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate immediately following the announcement of the independence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948. In 1947, and again on May 14, 1948, the United States had offered de facto recognition of the Israeli Provisional Government, but during the war, the United States maintained an arms embargo against all belligerents.

After Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948, the fighting intensified with other Arab forces joining the Palestinian Arabs in attacking territory in the former Palestinian mandate. On the eve of May 14, the Arabs launched an air attack on Tel Aviv, which the Israelis resisted. This action was followed by the invasion of the former Palestinian mandate by Arab armies from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Saudi Arabia sent a formation that fought under the Egyptian command. British trained forces from Transjordan eventually intervened in the conflict, but only in areas that had been designated as part of the Arab state under the United Nations Partition Plan and the corpus separatum of Jerusalem. After tense early fighting, Israeli forces, now under joint command, were able to gain the offensive.
SOURCE: Milestones 1945-1952 The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 Office of Historian Department of State

[
You are slinging Israeli shit again.

Nobody attacked Israel.

(COMMENT)

Five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate immediately following the announcement of the independence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948.

Five Arab States had deployed their armed forces in a coordinated attack on positions outside their borders.
On mid-night, 14 May 1948, the British disengaged its forces. On the same day, the Jewish Agency announced Independence for the State of Israel on the territory allotted to it by the partition plan. The Arab League States immediately broke into conflict against Jewish communities; entered the territory under the pretext to assist the Palestinian Arabs. While the Lebanese and Syrians made no gains, the Jordanians and the Egyptians used the pretext to expand their territories; Egypt taking the Gaza Strip and the Jordanian taking the entirety of the West Bank.

Most Respectfully,
R

Five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate​

That would be Palestine not Israel.

Actually, no. You're not understanding many things on many levels. Isreal had declared independence. Subsequent to that, the Arab invaders / colonizers attacked. Your insistence about some mythical Pal'istan, which you now claim was invaded by Arab colonizers is a hoot.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

dude, sell it somewhere else. they ae called the occupied territories for a reason

hey stupid, Gaza has been Jew-free since 2006, it's 100% Hamas'istan.

At least learn the basics.

and 100% under israeli control

Israel having border control is no control over Gaza, neither supplying them with water, electricity, goods and taking care of their wounded in Israeli hospitals.

Interesting why wouldn't you mention Egypt to? hmmm

Rylah, do you think the anti-Semites are crying their crocodile tears over the tens of thousands innocents being murdered by their fellow Arabs elsewhere in the Middle East? If the Jews are not involved, a million people could be killed and they wouldn't say a word.

Agree, but during the 2nd Lebanon being a kid, after being bombarded sitting in the shelters, I'd go watch TV during the calm hours, and see all those charged pictures that confused and made me really miserable- I couldn't understand then.

Sure now I see how desperate they are in trying to find any way to make our life h... but I still remember how those pictures worked.

The only difference is, the anti-semites don't seem to have a mind of their own, mostly moved by unconscious streams- repeating slogans again and again as if it's their purpose in life....a tapeworm inside a brain.

Sorry for off topic.

rylah, Thank you for living in Israel, even though you are surrounded by savages. You make it safe for us Jews all over the world.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

In any century long dispute, small or large, there are going to be mistakes on both sides of the argument (whatever it may be).

You did not mention the UNPC that was supposed to take over the Mandate in 1948 but failed to protect the people and land under its trust.

You did not mention the UNCCP that was charged to solve the Palestinian problem but failed to do its job.

(COMMENT)

As far as the UNPC is concernment, the Arab League invaded the territory outside their jurisdiction and venue. That necessitated a change in the organizational structure and the mission/mandate. The United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine (UNCCP) assumed the functions given to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine by the resolution of the General Assembly of 14 May 1948. The Arab Invasion began the following day in violation of the Charter [Chapter 1, Article 2(4) --- refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state].

The Decolonization by the UN does not cover Palestine even though the colonizing of Palestine was mentioned in other UN resolutions.

(COMMENT)

Without regard to what you think the Decolonization means (using your layman's definition and the interpretation of what YOU think the other non-binding resolutions contribute) in actual fact nowhere near Israel or in the adjacent or immediate vicinity, is there a colonial power at work for the purpose of acquiring territory.

There is a pile of other UN resolutions that address the Palestine problem sitting on the shelf collecting dust with no action taken.

(COMMENT)

Yes, that may be what you see. That does not mean that these dust collectors have not been overtaken by events or superseded in some other fashion.

Just because the UN consistently fails the Palestinians does not change the facts on the ground. Israel is the colonization of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

This appears to be a poor interpretation of what is going on as well.

The establishment of the Jewish State of Israel is not the result of a colonization process. No matter what you want to call the Immigration procedures to encourage and facilitate the close settlement by all Jews on the land --- who are willing to assist in the establishment and reconstitution of their Jewish national home.

Without regard to what the Hostile Arab Palestinians may think today, it was always the case that the Allied Powers having acquired the title and all rights to the territory in question, have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917.

It was not the case that the territory in question --- which was placed under the Enemy Occupied Territory Administration --- was in any fashion --- Arab Palestinian Territory. In the time of the Armistice of Mudros (1918), and the Treaty of Sevres (1920) to the Treaty of Lausanne (1924), The entire case for the hostility generated by the Arab Community and the Palestinians in particular, collapses when it is examined that all the outside territorial frontiers was renounces in favor of the Principal Allied Powers along with all rights and title which she could claim on any ground over or concerning any territories. There is no question here. It is what it is. And all apportionments that the Allied Powers offered to the Arab Palestinians from a time before the last Treaty, to the present day, were rejected by the Arab Palestinians in lieu of "nothing."

Most Respectfully,
R

The establishment of the Jewish State of Israel is not the result of a colonization process.​

The British and the Zionists called it colonialism. History calls it colonialism. The Palestinians and others still call it colonialism. The facts on the ground call it colonialism.

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism


In other words, while colonialism typically refers to events, settler-colonialism is viewed as an ongoing process. Professor LeFevre puts it this way: “Settler colonialism is premised on occupation and the elimination of the native population, while colonialism is primarily about conquest.”

Given this definition, the claim that Zionism is a form of settler colonialism it is not at all inappropriate

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism​

What do you have that says different?

Links?

A blog is the best you can do, and that of a looney lefty Jew at that. nearly as bad as your islamonazi propaganda sites that alter the words of treaties, international laws and UN resolutions.


Now for it to colonisation there has to be a nation supporting the colonies, so which nation was this again

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, don't be ridiculous.

Five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate​

That would be Palestine not Israel.

(COMMENT)

We call this type of quibbling to be untruthful.

(QUESTIONS)

• Are you saying that this did not happen?
• You are saying that no elements of the Arab League Forces entered into the territory declared independent by the Israeli Provisional Government?

* Are you saying that the Arab League DID NOT attempt to use Military Force to deny Israel the principle of equal rights and self-determination (Article 1(2) UN Charter)?
• Are you saying that the Arab League DID NOT used Military Force in an attempt to against the Provisional Government of Israel in an attempt to take control of the territory outlined in UN General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) and prevent its implementation?

You can quibble with the words: and pretend that your quibbling has some meaning. But in reality, you and others like you, do no great service to the Pro-Arab Palestinian Cause by attempting to alter the historical reality.

If you are arguing that the Arab League had some legal authority to marshal forces, and deploy them beyond their sovereignty and borders, into the territory for which the Allied Powers had been given title and rights, --- formerly under the Mandate for Palestine --- then state the case.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

In any century long dispute, small or large, there are going to be mistakes on both sides of the argument (whatever it may be).

You did not mention the UNPC that was supposed to take over the Mandate in 1948 but failed to protect the people and land under its trust.

You did not mention the UNCCP that was charged to solve the Palestinian problem but failed to do its job.

(COMMENT)

As far as the UNPC is concernment, the Arab League invaded the territory outside their jurisdiction and venue. That necessitated a change in the organizational structure and the mission/mandate. The United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine (UNCCP) assumed the functions given to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine by the resolution of the General Assembly of 14 May 1948. The Arab Invasion began the following day in violation of the Charter [Chapter 1, Article 2(4) --- refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state].

The Decolonization by the UN does not cover Palestine even though the colonizing of Palestine was mentioned in other UN resolutions.

(COMMENT)

Without regard to what you think the Decolonization means (using your layman's definition and the interpretation of what YOU think the other non-binding resolutions contribute) in actual fact nowhere near Israel or in the adjacent or immediate vicinity, is there a colonial power at work for the purpose of acquiring territory.

There is a pile of other UN resolutions that address the Palestine problem sitting on the shelf collecting dust with no action taken.

(COMMENT)

Yes, that may be what you see. That does not mean that these dust collectors have not been overtaken by events or superseded in some other fashion.

Just because the UN consistently fails the Palestinians does not change the facts on the ground. Israel is the colonization of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

This appears to be a poor interpretation of what is going on as well.

The establishment of the Jewish State of Israel is not the result of a colonization process. No matter what you want to call the Immigration procedures to encourage and facilitate the close settlement by all Jews on the land --- who are willing to assist in the establishment and reconstitution of their Jewish national home.

Without regard to what the Hostile Arab Palestinians may think today, it was always the case that the Allied Powers having acquired the title and all rights to the territory in question, have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917.

It was not the case that the territory in question --- which was placed under the Enemy Occupied Territory Administration --- was in any fashion --- Arab Palestinian Territory. In the time of the Armistice of Mudros (1918), and the Treaty of Sevres (1920) to the Treaty of Lausanne (1924), The entire case for the hostility generated by the Arab Community and the Palestinians in particular, collapses when it is examined that all the outside territorial frontiers was renounces in favor of the Principal Allied Powers along with all rights and title which she could claim on any ground over or concerning any territories. There is no question here. It is what it is. And all apportionments that the Allied Powers offered to the Arab Palestinians from a time before the last Treaty, to the present day, were rejected by the Arab Palestinians in lieu of "nothing."

Most Respectfully,
R

The establishment of the Jewish State of Israel is not the result of a colonization process.​

The British and the Zionists called it colonialism. History calls it colonialism. The Palestinians and others still call it colonialism. The facts on the ground call it colonialism.

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism


In other words, while colonialism typically refers to events, settler-colonialism is viewed as an ongoing process. Professor LeFevre puts it this way: “Settler colonialism is premised on occupation and the elimination of the native population, while colonialism is primarily about conquest.”

Given this definition, the claim that Zionism is a form of settler colonialism it is not at all inappropriate

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism​

What do you have that says different?

Links?

A blog is the best you can do, and that of a looney lefty Jew at that. nearly as bad as your islamonazi propaganda sites that alter the words of treaties, international laws and UN resolutions.


Now for it to colonisation there has to be a nation supporting the colonies, so which nation was this again

The Zionists recruited the British to supply the military power and political support for its colonial project.

(2) The instruments of systematic colonization were also promptly readied. The "Jewish Colonial Trust" (1898), the "Colonization Commission" (1898), the "Jewish National Fund" (1901), the "Palestine Office" (1908) and the "Palestine Land Development Company" (1908), were among the first institutions established by the Zionist Organization. Their joint purpose was to plan, finance, and supervise the process of colonization, and to ensure that it would not meet the same fate which the earlier experiment of haphazard colonization had met. (3)

While the instruments of colonization were being laboriously created, diplomatic efforts were also being exerted to produce political conditions that would permit, facilitate, and protect large-scale colonization.

The War, however, created new circumstances which were destined to improve considerably the fortunes of Zionist colonization in Palestine. For the War set the stage for an alliance concluded in 1917 between British Imperialism and Zionist Colonialism, which, during the following thirty years, opened the gates of Palestine to Zionist colonizers, facilitated the establishment of a Zionist settler-community, and paved the way for the dispossession and expulsion of the Arab people of Palestine and the creation of the Zionist settler-state in 1948.

Whereas unilateral Zionist colonization failed, in the thirty years preceding the First World War, to make much headway, the alliance of Zionist Colonialism and British Imperialism succeeded, during the thirty years following the First World War, in accomplishing the objectives of both parties.

http://www.freedomarchives.org/Docu...ans/12.zionist.colonialism.palestine.1965.pdf​

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, don't be ridiculous.

Five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate​

That would be Palestine not Israel.

(COMMENT)

We call this type of quibbling to be untruthful.

View attachment 86741 View attachment 86742​

(QUESTIONS)

• Are you saying that this did not happen?
• You are saying that no elements of the Arab League Forces entered into the territory declared independent by the Israeli Provisional Government?

* Are you saying that the Arab League DID NOT attempt to use Military Force to deny Israel the principle of equal rights and self-determination (Article 1(2) UN Charter)?
• Are you saying that the Arab League DID NOT used Military Force in an attempt to against the Provisional Government of Israel in an attempt to take control of the territory outlined in UN General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) and prevent its implementation?

You can quibble with the words: and pretend that your quibbling has some meaning. But in reality, you and others like you, do no great service to the Pro-Arab Palestinian Cause by attempting to alter the historical reality.

If you are arguing that the Arab League had some legal authority to marshal forces, and deploy them beyond their sovereignty and borders, into the territory for which the Allied Powers had been given title and rights, --- formerly under the Mandate for Palestine --- then state the case.

Most Respectfully,
R

There you go again basing your conclusions on false premise.

• You are saying that no elements of the Arab League Forces entered into the territory declared independent by the Israeli Provisional Government?​

Israel claimed independence on Palestinian land. When was that land ceded to Israel?

Link?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

This question is invalid. This demand to justify the history is invalid. This is has been overtaken by events by more than half a century.

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism


In other words, while colonialism typically refers to events, settler-colonialism is viewed as an ongoing process. Professor LeFevre puts it this way: “Settler colonialism is premised on occupation and the elimination of the native population, while colonialism is primarily about conquest.”

Given this definition, the claim that Zionism is a form of settler colonialism it is not at all inappropriate

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism​

What do you have that says different?

Links?

(COMMENT)

The facilitation of of Immigration by the Allied Powers IS NOT the same thing as colonialism.

I'm not going to argue over a Pro-Palestinian's Professor on his choice of word for description ("settler colonialism is" --- in comparison to --- "colonialism is primarily").

Zionism (noun nomenclature) is a political movement; people with a common agenda.

Zionism IS NOT an action (settler colonialism) which establishes, exploits, maintains, acquires, or politically expands on it own.

You can define the phrase "settler colonialism" to mean "zionism' only because there is no universally understood definition or glossary profile for the phrase. But you cannot re-define "Zionism" to adopt the meaning of "settler colonialism." Zionism already has a universally accepted definition.

The concept of "colonialism" and the concept of "colonization" hare similar and could be related if the political intent is the same.

• For the Allied Powers to facilitate a group of settlers to the territory for which the Allied Powers have full title and all rights --- for the expressed purpose to establish a Jewish National Home (undefined), is something much different from: the Allied Powers taking the steps necessary for the implantation and expansion of political power --- by placing the Jewish People in a territory for which the Allied Powers had no title or rights.
​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The phrase "Palestinian Land" DOES NOT MEAN land under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinian."

There you go again basing your conclusions on false premise.

• You are saying that no elements of the Arab League Forces entered into the territory declared independent by the Israeli Provisional Government?​

Israel claimed independence on Palestinian land. When was that land ceded to Israel?

Link?

(COMMENT)

The territory for which the Provisional Government of Israel was territory over which the Allied Powers had full Title and Right. This was acquired in Article 16 of the Lausanne Treaty.

The UNSCOP made a recommendation for the apportionment of this territory to which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights.

The General Assemble outline the preferred "Steps Preparatory to Independence."

The "Steps Preparatory to Independence," having been accomplished by the Provisional Government to the degree acceptable to the UN Palestine Commission, the declared independence Independence on the hour of the withdrawal of the Mandatory (termination of the Mandate).

The Arab League attacked the Provisional Government of Israel on the day the declaration was announced.

Without objection by the UN and recognizing the right to self-determination [Chapter I, Article 1(2)], and after the ceasefire and armistice arrangements were set in place, the General Assembly granted Israel membership into the United Nations. A/RES/273 (III) 11 May 1949

The question: • "When was that land ceded to Israel?" is a question that assumes the land was processed under some procedure called: "land ceded to Israel." No such process; the territory WAS NOT "ceded" (meaning yielded or formally surrender to another). The territory, recommended by the UNSCOP and approved by the General Assembly, was territory for which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights, was offered and passed on to the Mandatory and then passed on to the UN Trusteeship in the hands of the Successor Government of the UN Palestine Commission. The UN Palestine Commission, responsible for implementation of the UNSCOP Recommendations as approved, immediately allowed the Provisional Government to declare independence.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The phrase "Palestinian Land" DOES NOT MEAN land under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinian."

There you go again basing your conclusions on false premise.

• You are saying that no elements of the Arab League Forces entered into the territory declared independent by the Israeli Provisional Government?​

Israel claimed independence on Palestinian land. When was that land ceded to Israel?

Link?

(COMMENT)

The territory for which the Provisional Government of Israel was territory over which the Allied Powers had full Title and Right. This was acquired in Article 16 of the Lausanne Treaty.

The UNSCOP made a recommendation for the apportionment of this territory to which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights.

The General Assemble outline the preferred "Steps Preparatory to Independence."

The "Steps Preparatory to Independence," having been accomplished by the Provisional Government to the degree acceptable to the UN Palestine Commission, the declared independence Independence on the hour of the withdrawal of the Mandatory (termination of the Mandate).

The Arab League attacked the Provisional Government of Israel on the day the declaration was announced.

Without objection by the UN and recognizing the right to self-determination [Chapter I, Article 1(2)], and after the ceasefire and armistice arrangements were set in place, the General Assembly granted Israel membership into the United Nations. A/RES/273 (III) 11 May 1949

The question: • "When was that land ceded to Israel?" is a question that assumes the land was processed under some procedure called: "land ceded to Israel." No such process; the territory WAS NOT "ceded" (meaning yielded or formally surrender to another). The territory, recommended by the UNSCOP and approved by the General Assembly, was territory for which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights, was offered and passed on to the Mandatory and then passed on to the UN Trusteeship in the hands of the Successor Government of the UN Palestine Commission. The UN Palestine Commission, responsible for implementation of the UNSCOP Recommendations as approved, immediately allowed the Provisional Government to declare independence.

Most Respectfully,
R

The phrase "Palestinian Land" DOES NOT MEAN land under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinian."​

Yes it does. Just because illegal external interference prevents them from exercising that right does not negate that right.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The phrase "Palestinian Land" DOES NOT MEAN land under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinian."

There you go again basing your conclusions on false premise.

• You are saying that no elements of the Arab League Forces entered into the territory declared independent by the Israeli Provisional Government?​

Israel claimed independence on Palestinian land. When was that land ceded to Israel?

Link?

(COMMENT)

The territory for which the Provisional Government of Israel was territory over which the Allied Powers had full Title and Right. This was acquired in Article 16 of the Lausanne Treaty.

The UNSCOP made a recommendation for the apportionment of this territory to which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights.

The General Assemble outline the preferred "Steps Preparatory to Independence."

The "Steps Preparatory to Independence," having been accomplished by the Provisional Government to the degree acceptable to the UN Palestine Commission, the declared independence Independence on the hour of the withdrawal of the Mandatory (termination of the Mandate).

The Arab League attacked the Provisional Government of Israel on the day the declaration was announced.

Without objection by the UN and recognizing the right to self-determination [Chapter I, Article 1(2)], and after the ceasefire and armistice arrangements were set in place, the General Assembly granted Israel membership into the United Nations. A/RES/273 (III) 11 May 1949

The question: • "When was that land ceded to Israel?" is a question that assumes the land was processed under some procedure called: "land ceded to Israel." No such process; the territory WAS NOT "ceded" (meaning yielded or formally surrender to another). The territory, recommended by the UNSCOP and approved by the General Assembly, was territory for which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights, was offered and passed on to the Mandatory and then passed on to the UN Trusteeship in the hands of the Successor Government of the UN Palestine Commission. The UN Palestine Commission, responsible for implementation of the UNSCOP Recommendations as approved, immediately allowed the Provisional Government to declare independence.

Most Respectfully,
R

The UN has no authority over land.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The phrase "Palestinian Land" DOES NOT MEAN land under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinian."

There you go again basing your conclusions on false premise.

• You are saying that no elements of the Arab League Forces entered into the territory declared independent by the Israeli Provisional Government?​

Israel claimed independence on Palestinian land. When was that land ceded to Israel?

Link?

(COMMENT)

The territory for which the Provisional Government of Israel was territory over which the Allied Powers had full Title and Right. This was acquired in Article 16 of the Lausanne Treaty.

The UNSCOP made a recommendation for the apportionment of this territory to which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights.

The General Assemble outline the preferred "Steps Preparatory to Independence."

The "Steps Preparatory to Independence," having been accomplished by the Provisional Government to the degree acceptable to the UN Palestine Commission, the declared independence Independence on the hour of the withdrawal of the Mandatory (termination of the Mandate).

The Arab League attacked the Provisional Government of Israel on the day the declaration was announced.

Without objection by the UN and recognizing the right to self-determination [Chapter I, Article 1(2)], and after the ceasefire and armistice arrangements were set in place, the General Assembly granted Israel membership into the United Nations. A/RES/273 (III) 11 May 1949

The question: • "When was that land ceded to Israel?" is a question that assumes the land was processed under some procedure called: "land ceded to Israel." No such process; the territory WAS NOT "ceded" (meaning yielded or formally surrender to another). The territory, recommended by the UNSCOP and approved by the General Assembly, was territory for which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights, was offered and passed on to the Mandatory and then passed on to the UN Trusteeship in the hands of the Successor Government of the UN Palestine Commission. The UN Palestine Commission, responsible for implementation of the UNSCOP Recommendations as approved, immediately allowed the Provisional Government to declare independence.

Most Respectfully,
R

The question: • "When was that land ceded to Israel?" is a question that assumes the land was processed under some procedure called: "land ceded to Israel." No such process; the territory WAS NOT "ceded" (meaning yielded or formally surrender to another).​

Indeed, thank you.

 

[ogibillm]

a water tower is a hamas target?

If hamas use it for more than a water tower then yes, read the Geneva conventions it is all detailed in there

just be honest - you don't care what it is used for, you will excuse any israeli action.

No that is you in regards for illegal attacks on the Jews. The Jews have the right to defend themselves and if you buy a subscription to Google Earth you can see the rockets being fired in real time. But that would burst your bubble and prove that you are wrong every time in regards to Israel's actions against the arab muslim terrorists. Typical nazi Jew hater stance is to blame the Jews for everything

you are far more nazi than i'll ever be.

NEVER and that is a proven fact, you support islaminazi terrorism and this makes you a NAZI

you sure do seem to support keeping people penned up in camps and their periodic slaughter because they are the wrong ethnicity.

seems to me that makes you more nazi than I'll ever be

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The phrase "Palestinian Land" DOES NOT MEAN land under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinian."

There you go again basing your conclusions on false premise.

• You are saying that no elements of the Arab League Forces entered into the territory declared independent by the Israeli Provisional Government?​

Israel claimed independence on Palestinian land. When was that land ceded to Israel?

Link?

(COMMENT)

The territory for which the Provisional Government of Israel was territory over which the Allied Powers had full Title and Right. This was acquired in Article 16 of the Lausanne Treaty.

The UNSCOP made a recommendation for the apportionment of this territory to which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights.

The General Assemble outline the preferred "Steps Preparatory to Independence."

The "Steps Preparatory to Independence," having been accomplished by the Provisional Government to the degree acceptable to the UN Palestine Commission, the declared independence Independence on the hour of the withdrawal of the Mandatory (termination of the Mandate).

The Arab League attacked the Provisional Government of Israel on the day the declaration was announced.

Without objection by the UN and recognizing the right to self-determination [Chapter I, Article 1(2)], and after the ceasefire and armistice arrangements were set in place, the General Assembly granted Israel membership into the United Nations. A/RES/273 (III) 11 May 1949

The question: • "When was that land ceded to Israel?" is a question that assumes the land was processed under some procedure called: "land ceded to Israel." No such process; the territory WAS NOT "ceded" (meaning yielded or formally surrender to another). The territory, recommended by the UNSCOP and approved by the General Assembly, was territory for which the Allied Powers had Title and Rights, was offered and passed on to the Mandatory and then passed on to the UN Trusteeship in the hands of the Successor Government of the UN Palestine Commission. The UN Palestine Commission, responsible for implementation of the UNSCOP Recommendations as approved, immediately allowed the Provisional Government to declare independence.

Most Respectfully,
R

The phrase "Palestinian Land" DOES NOT MEAN land under the sovereignty of the Arab Palestinian."​

Yes it does. Just because illegal external interference prevents them from exercising that right does not negate that right.

You neglected to append "..... because I said so" to your unsupported claim.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

In any century long dispute, small or large, there are going to be mistakes on both sides of the argument (whatever it may be).

You did not mention the UNPC that was supposed to take over the Mandate in 1948 but failed to protect the people and land under its trust.

You did not mention the UNCCP that was charged to solve the Palestinian problem but failed to do its job.

(COMMENT)

As far as the UNPC is concernment, the Arab League invaded the territory outside their jurisdiction and venue. That necessitated a change in the organizational structure and the mission/mandate. The United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine (UNCCP) assumed the functions given to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine by the resolution of the General Assembly of 14 May 1948. The Arab Invasion began the following day in violation of the Charter [Chapter 1, Article 2(4) --- refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state].

The Decolonization by the UN does not cover Palestine even though the colonizing of Palestine was mentioned in other UN resolutions.

(COMMENT)

Without regard to what you think the Decolonization means (using your layman's definition and the interpretation of what YOU think the other non-binding resolutions contribute) in actual fact nowhere near Israel or in the adjacent or immediate vicinity, is there a colonial power at work for the purpose of acquiring territory.

There is a pile of other UN resolutions that address the Palestine problem sitting on the shelf collecting dust with no action taken.

(COMMENT)

Yes, that may be what you see. That does not mean that these dust collectors have not been overtaken by events or superseded in some other fashion.

Just because the UN consistently fails the Palestinians does not change the facts on the ground. Israel is the colonization of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

This appears to be a poor interpretation of what is going on as well.

The establishment of the Jewish State of Israel is not the result of a colonization process. No matter what you want to call the Immigration procedures to encourage and facilitate the close settlement by all Jews on the land --- who are willing to assist in the establishment and reconstitution of their Jewish national home.

Without regard to what the Hostile Arab Palestinians may think today, it was always the case that the Allied Powers having acquired the title and all rights to the territory in question, have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917.

It was not the case that the territory in question --- which was placed under the Enemy Occupied Territory Administration --- was in any fashion --- Arab Palestinian Territory. In the time of the Armistice of Mudros (1918), and the Treaty of Sevres (1920) to the Treaty of Lausanne (1924), The entire case for the hostility generated by the Arab Community and the Palestinians in particular, collapses when it is examined that all the outside territorial frontiers was renounces in favor of the Principal Allied Powers along with all rights and title which she could claim on any ground over or concerning any territories. There is no question here. It is what it is. And all apportionments that the Allied Powers offered to the Arab Palestinians from a time before the last Treaty, to the present day, were rejected by the Arab Palestinians in lieu of "nothing."

Most Respectfully,
R

The establishment of the Jewish State of Israel is not the result of a colonization process.​

The British and the Zionists called it colonialism. History calls it colonialism. The Palestinians and others still call it colonialism. The facts on the ground call it colonialism.

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism


In other words, while colonialism typically refers to events, settler-colonialism is viewed as an ongoing process. Professor LeFevre puts it this way: “Settler colonialism is premised on occupation and the elimination of the native population, while colonialism is primarily about conquest.”

Given this definition, the claim that Zionism is a form of settler colonialism it is not at all inappropriate

Yes, Zionism is Settler Colonialism​

What do you have that says different?

Links?

A blog is the best you can do, and that of a looney lefty Jew at that. nearly as bad as your islamonazi propaganda sites that alter the words of treaties, international laws and UN resolutions.


Now for it to colonisation there has to be a nation supporting the colonies, so which nation was this again

The Zionists recruited the British to supply the military power and political support for its colonial project.

(2) The instruments of systematic colonization were also promptly readied. The "Jewish Colonial Trust" (1898), the "Colonization Commission" (1898), the "Jewish National Fund" (1901), the "Palestine Office" (1908) and the "Palestine Land Development Company" (1908), were among the first institutions established by the Zionist Organization. Their joint purpose was to plan, finance, and supervise the process of colonization, and to ensure that it would not meet the same fate which the earlier experiment of haphazard colonization had met. (3)

While the instruments of colonization were being laboriously created, diplomatic efforts were also being exerted to produce political conditions that would permit, facilitate, and protect large-scale colonization.

The War, however, created new circumstances which were destined to improve considerably the fortunes of Zionist colonization in Palestine. For the War set the stage for an alliance concluded in 1917 between British Imperialism and Zionist Colonialism, which, during the following thirty years, opened the gates of Palestine to Zionist colonizers, facilitated the establishment of a Zionist settler-community, and paved the way for the dispossession and expulsion of the Arab people of Palestine and the creation of the Zionist settler-state in 1948.

Whereas unilateral Zionist colonization failed, in the thirty years preceding the First World War, to make much headway, the alliance of Zionist Colonialism and British Imperialism succeeded, during the thirty years following the First World War, in accomplishing the objectives of both parties.

http://www.freedomarchives.org/Docu...ans/12.zionist.colonialism.palestine.1965.pdf​

This LIE again that has no supporting evidence to back it up. The only source ever found was the hate sites that wany to see the Jews wiped out.

 

[Phoenall]

If hamas use it for more than a water tower then yes, read the Geneva conventions it is all detailed in there

just be honest - you don't care what it is used for, you will excuse any israeli action.

No that is you in regards for illegal attacks on the Jews. The Jews have the right to defend themselves and if you buy a subscription to Google Earth you can see the rockets being fired in real time. But that would burst your bubble and prove that you are wrong every time in regards to Israel's actions against the arab muslim terrorists. Typical nazi Jew hater stance is to blame the Jews for everything

you are far more nazi than i'll ever be.

NEVER and that is a proven fact, you support islaminazi terrorism and this makes you a NAZI

you sure do seem to support keeping people penned up in camps and their periodic slaughter because they are the wrong ethnicity.

seems to me that makes you more nazi than I'll ever be

You have me confused with yourself as you islamonazi propagandists are the ones that keep people penned up in camps and then arrange their periodic slaughter in the name of islamonazi terrorism. If I had my way I would force the nations they illegally migrated from to take them back and compensate them for their treatment.