CDZ Impeachment Precedent

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    I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

    It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

    To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

    Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

    Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

    Is this really the way we want to run this country?
     
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    I'm much more concerned about presidential abuse of power, but lying about a blowjob is apparently much more serious to some. Why isn't the whole Whitewater fiasco seen in the same light? I think the Republicans are being very two-faced about this and THAT'S not "the way we want to run this country".
     
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    All parties are two face when it suits their agenda. The difference between the Slick Willy impeachment and the Trump impeachment is that the Willy impeachment had support of members of both parties. Unlike this Trump impeachment, which is along strict party lines. Not only will no Republicans vote for it in the House but we are liable to get significant Democrat votes against it.

    The Democrats themselves have said that an impeachment along party lines is not the right to go.

    I would really rather have the discussion be over the legitimacy of an impeachment along party lines rather than partisan defense.
     
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    I'm sure you'd like that, instead of discussing abuse of power and obstruction of justice. Once again, process over facts.
     
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    Lying about a blowjob to your wife, or your buddies is one thing, lying about a blowjob, or anything else, to a Grand Jury is something else.
     
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    Trump will forever be seen as an incompetent illegitimate president, and now he will be known as one of the few who were impeached. What a loser.
     
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    Not that big of a deal Popadopolous just got locked up for two weeks for it
     
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    Yet the motivation is exactly the same human reason, no matter who you're talking to.
    It was none of our business, tbh, if he was getting bj's in the Oval. I'm not sure how that all came up but it's ridiculous to impeach a President for lying about something that has nothing to do with the country's business AT ALL. Yeah, he tried to squirm out of it. Wouldn't you? If the girl had taken her dress to the cleaners like she should have, we would currently be working on Impeachment #2, not #3.

    Now, withholding aid to Ukraine IS our business, in a big way. Refusing to cooperate with Congress's investigation into it IS our business.
     
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    but lying about a blowjob is apparently much more serious to some.

    Lying under oath in a sexual harassment lawsuit.
     
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    And Hillary will forever be seen as the most qualified candidate, ever, who lost to two amateurs.
    What a loser.
     
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