CDZ Impeachment Precedent

[Syriusly]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

Precedent? You clearly never read about Andrew Johnson. Every Democrat voted against it- it was along strict party lines.
Impeachment of Andrew Johnson - Wikipedia

I realize that you are parroting Trump's talking points, but that doesn't make them true.

The charges are not 'weak' but very specific and on point- and triggered by Trump's secret call to a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

Under any other President, other than Trump, Republicans would be outraged that an American President abused his office for his own political benefit- but not when its Trump.

Let me put it another way- you have presented a strictly partisan view of the proceedings.

My strictly partisan view of the proceedings are that they were and are warranted. And that the Constitution doesn't call upon the House to not act, simply because the members of the President's party refuse to hold him accountable.

triggered by Trump's secret call to a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

Secret?

Sounds like everyone above the rank of janitor in DC knew about it before the whistleblower did.

Secret as in Trump labeled the call itself 'secret'
Secret as in Trump limited the number of participants, and excluded those who normally would be included- such as the Ambassador to Ukraine.
Secret as in Trump limited the number of people who go access to the records of the call- such as not providing to the Ambassador to the Ukraine.
Secret as in stowing away in an ultra-secure storage facility intended for the most sensitive of American secrets.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

That was outrageous!!!
Biden's corruption must never be exposed.
All Dem corruption must remain hidden, especially if the Dem is a candidate for President....or any other office.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption? And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

If there is any evidence of any wrong doing by an American, we have our own law enforcement agencies to investigate Americans. We don't need secret phone calls to foreign countries to ask them to investigate political rivals.

 

[Syriusly]

I will make this real simple.

Republican House is controlled by Republicans. A Democrat is in the White House that the Republicans don't like.

The Republicans dream up impeachment charges against the Democrat President. Very little substance to the charges. They even charge him with Obstruction of Congress because he won't go along with their partisan scam. The charges are so weak that no Democrats join the Republicans. Only Republicans vote for the Impeachment.

Is that what you want?

Because that is exactly what is happening now except the parties are reversed.

The question: Is this the precedent you want for this country?

'very little substance to the charges'

Well that is the crux isn't it? Republicans claim there is no substance to the charges- yet about half of Americans support impeachment- because of the charges. Who decides whether there is substance or not? The House does.

Do I think that the opposition party should attempt impeachment whenever they hold the House opposite the President? No.

Do I think that the House should consider impeachment when a President asks a foreign government to investigate his political rival? Yes.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

Precedent? You clearly never read about Andrew Johnson. Every Democrat voted against it- it was along strict party lines.
Impeachment of Andrew Johnson - Wikipedia

I realize that you are parroting Trump's talking points, but that doesn't make them true.

The charges are not 'weak' but very specific and on point- and triggered by Trump's secret call to a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

Under any other President, other than Trump, Republicans would be outraged that an American President abused his office for his own political benefit- but not when its Trump.

Let me put it another way- you have presented a strictly partisan view of the proceedings.

My strictly partisan view of the proceedings are that they were and are warranted. And that the Constitution doesn't call upon the House to not act, simply because the members of the President's party refuse to hold him accountable.

triggered by Trump's secret call to a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

Secret?

Sounds like everyone above the rank of janitor in DC knew about it before the whistleblower did.

Secret as in Trump labeled the call itself 'secret'
Secret as in Trump limited the number of participants, and excluded those who normally would be included- such as the Ambassador to Ukraine.
Secret as in Trump limited the number of people who go access to the records of the call- such as not providing to the Ambassador to the Ukraine.
Secret as in stowing away in an ultra-secure storage facility intended for the most sensitive of American secrets.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

That was outrageous!!!
Biden's corruption must never be exposed.
All Dem corruption must remain hidden, especially if the Dem is a candidate for President....or any other office.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption? And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

If there is any evidence of any wrong doing by an American, we have our own law enforcement agencies to investigate Americans. We don't need secret phone calls to foreign countries to ask them to investigate political rivals.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption?

There is no corruption? That's a relief.
We should definitely appoint a Special Counsel......Biden has nothing to hide.

And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

Not my thread.

 

[Flash]

I will make this real simple.

Republican House is controlled by Republicans. A Democrat is in the White House that the Republicans don't like.

The Republicans dream up impeachment charges against the Democrat President. Very little substance to the charges. They even charge him with Obstruction of Congress because he won't go along with their partisan scam. The charges are so weak that no Democrats join the Republicans. Only Republicans vote for the Impeachment.

Is that what you want?

Because that is exactly what is happening now except the parties are reversed.

The question: Is this the precedent you want for this country?

'very little substance to the charges'

Well that is the crux isn't it? Republicans claim there is no substance to the charges- yet about half of Americans support impeachment- because of the charges. Who decides whether there is substance or not? The House does.

Do I think that the opposition party should attempt impeachment whenever they hold the House opposite the President? No.

Do I think that the House should consider impeachment when a President asks a foreign government to investigate his political rival? Yes.

You are confused.

There is very little substance and we all know it. We all read the transcript of the telephone call and it was a nothing burger.

We also know that no investigation was ever done by the Ukrainians and they got the money. The President of the Ukraine even said he was never pressured. If it was bribery then it was the worst bribery deal in the history of the world done by a guy who wrote the book on the art of the deal.

It is nothing more than bullshit from the Democrat Dirty Tricks Department and it is backfiring on them. Shame!!!!

No Republican has stated that they will vote for impeachment. Both Peloski and Nadler have both said that an impeachment without bipartisan support is wrong.

Meanwhile several Democrats will be voting no. One even changed party over the scam.

There is no doubt by anybody that there is absolutely no substance to the Democrat charges. Maybe the TDS afflicted Moon Bats are confused but nobody else is.

So the question still remains. Is the precedent you dumbass Moon Bats want to establish because next time it will be you.

Partisan impeachment is wrong. With Nixon and Clinton there was support from both parties. This is nothing more than Democrat butthurt over Trump schlonging that Crooked Hillary bitch and putting a stop to making this country a Socialist shithole that Obama started.

Oh by the way, should the Congress or the Justice Department be concerned when a Vice President shakes down an ally with the threat that if an investigation of his son takes place then military aid will be cut off?

Because that is exactly what happen. You want me to post the Biden video? Because I will do it if you are confused or maybe didn't see the video on CNN.

You Moon Bats are as confused about Ethics as you are History, Economics, Climate Science, the Constitution and Biology, aren't you?

 

[Syriusly]

Precedent? You clearly never read about Andrew Johnson. Every Democrat voted against it- it was along strict party lines.
Impeachment of Andrew Johnson - Wikipedia

I realize that you are parroting Trump's talking points, but that doesn't make them true.

The charges are not 'weak' but very specific and on point- and triggered by Trump's secret call to a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

Under any other President, other than Trump, Republicans would be outraged that an American President abused his office for his own political benefit- but not when its Trump.

Let me put it another way- you have presented a strictly partisan view of the proceedings.

My strictly partisan view of the proceedings are that they were and are warranted. And that the Constitution doesn't call upon the House to not act, simply because the members of the President's party refuse to hold him accountable.

triggered by Trump's secret call to a foreign government to investigate his political rival.

Secret?

Sounds like everyone above the rank of janitor in DC knew about it before the whistleblower did.

Secret as in Trump labeled the call itself 'secret'
Secret as in Trump limited the number of participants, and excluded those who normally would be included- such as the Ambassador to Ukraine.
Secret as in Trump limited the number of people who go access to the records of the call- such as not providing to the Ambassador to the Ukraine.
Secret as in stowing away in an ultra-secure storage facility intended for the most sensitive of American secrets.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

That was outrageous!!!
Biden's corruption must never be exposed.
All Dem corruption must remain hidden, especially if the Dem is a candidate for President....or any other office.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption? And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

If there is any evidence of any wrong doing by an American, we have our own law enforcement agencies to investigate Americans. We don't need secret phone calls to foreign countries to ask them to investigate political rivals.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption?

There is no corruption? That's a relief.
We should definitely appoint a Special Counsel......Biden has nothing to hide.

And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

Not my thread.

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens. If there is any evidence of wrong doing- then the FBI should be told to investigate it.

I have no problem with the FBI investigating any claims of crimes by the Biden's or the Trumps- do you?

 

[Syriusly]

I will make this real simple.

Republican House is controlled by Republicans. A Democrat is in the White House that the Republicans don't like.

The Republicans dream up impeachment charges against the Democrat President. Very little substance to the charges. They even charge him with Obstruction of Congress because he won't go along with their partisan scam. The charges are so weak that no Democrats join the Republicans. Only Republicans vote for the Impeachment.

Is that what you want?

Because that is exactly what is happening now except the parties are reversed.

The question: Is this the precedent you want for this country?

'very little substance to the charges'

Well that is the crux isn't it? Republicans claim there is no substance to the charges- yet about half of Americans support impeachment- because of the charges. Who decides whether there is substance or not? The House does.

Do I think that the opposition party should attempt impeachment whenever they hold the House opposite the President? No.

Do I think that the House should consider impeachment when a President asks a foreign government to investigate his political rival? Yes.

You are confused.

There is very little substance and we all know it. We all read the transcript of the telephone call and it was a nothing burger.

We also know that no investigation was ever done by the Ukrainians and they got the money. The President of the Ukraine even said he was never pressured. If it was bribery then it was the worst bribery deal in the history of the world done by a guy who wrote the book on the art of the deal.

It is nothing more than bullshit from the Democrat Dirty Tricks Department and it is backfiring on them. Shame!!!!

No Republican has stated that they will vote for impeachment. Both Peloski and Nadler have both said that an impeachment without bipartisan support is wrong.

Meanwhile several Democrats will be voting no. One even changed party over the scam.

There is no doubt by anybody that there is absolutely no substance to the Democrat charges. Maybe the TDS afflicted Moon Bats are confused but nobody else is.

So the question still remains. Is the precedent you dumbass Moon Bats want to establish because next time it will be you.

Partisan impeachment is wrong. With Nixon and Clinton there was support from both parties. This is nothing more than Democrat butthurt over Trump schlonging that Crooked Hillary bitch and putting a stop to making this country a Socialist shithole that Obama started.

Oh by the way, should the Congress or the Justice Department be concerned when a Vice President shakes down an ally with the threat that if an investigation of his son takes place then military aid will be cut off?

Because that is exactly what happen. You want me to post the Biden video? Because I will do it if you are confused or maybe didn't see the video on CNN.

You Moon Bats are as confused about Ethics as you are History, Economics, Climate Science, the Constitution and Biology, aren't you?

There is very little substance and we all know it. We all read the transcript of the telephone call and it was a nothing burger.
All of you Trumpettes do keep repeating that to each other. According to the records of the secret phone call, Trump asked a foreign government to investigate his political rival. For any other President other than Trump, that would have been enough to doom his Presidency. But not your Dear Leader.

We also know that no investigation was ever done by the Ukrainians and they got the money. The President of the Ukraine even said he was never pressured. If it was bribery then it was the worst bribery deal in the history of the world done by a guy who wrote the book on the art of the deal.

No- this is not the worst deal your Dear Leader has done- the world is littered with Trump's failed deals. Personally I think that asking a foreign government to investigate your political rival is sufficient to warrant impeachment.

Trump made it clear through his lackeys that Ukraine would not get what it wanted- the release of funds and the meeting in the White House- until the President of Ukraine announced an investigation into the Bidens.

Why the demand for a public announcement, after the secret call? Pure politics- so Trump could slander Joe Biden for being investigated by Ukraine without any apparent connection to Trump.

Of course the funds were released- after the whistleblower report was made, and Congress found out about it. What a coincidence!

Just because Trump's attempt to bribe Ukraine failed- doesn't change the fact that he was abusing the office of President for his personal political gain.

It is nothing more than bullshit from the Democrat Dirty Tricks Department and it is backfiring on them. Shame!!!!

Democrats didn't force your Dear Leader to make a secret call to a foreign government asking them to dig up dirt on his political rival. Currently about 50% of Americans support the impeachment of you Dear Leader. Dozens of long time Republican leaders- who not coincidentally are no longer in office support the impeachment. So not so much backfiring at the moment.

No Republican has stated that they will vote for impeachment. Both Peloski and Nadler have both said that an impeachment without bipartisan support is wrong.

And both Graham and McConnel have said that impeachment was warranted in the case of Bill Clinton- despite not having bipartisan support.

Do I think that the country is split on this? Yes.

But at least I recognize that there is a split- while you cling to the delusion that no one supports the impeachment while half of Americans certainly do.

 

[Syriusly]

I will make this real simple.

Republican House is controlled by Republicans. A Democrat is in the White House that the Republicans don't like.

The Republicans dream up impeachment charges against the Democrat President. Very little substance to the charges. They even charge him with Obstruction of Congress because he won't go along with their partisan scam. The charges are so weak that no Democrats join the Republicans. Only Republicans vote for the Impeachment.

Is that what you want?

Because that is exactly what is happening now except the parties are reversed.

The question: Is this the precedent you want for this country?

'very little substance to the charges'

Well that is the crux isn't it? Republicans claim there is no substance to the charges- yet about half of Americans support impeachment- because of the charges. Who decides whether there is substance or not? The House does.

Do I think that the opposition party should attempt impeachment whenever they hold the House opposite the President? No.

Do I think that the House should consider impeachment when a President asks a foreign government to investigate his political rival? Yes.

Partisan impeachment is wrong. With Nixon and Clinton there was support from both parties.

As I posted earlier- the actual precedents don't support that claim

There are exactly 3 previous examples of impeachment actions against a President.

Johnson was impeached with every Democrat voting against impeachment.

When Nixon was in the process of being impeached- The Judiciary Committee voted on October 30, to begin consideration of possible impeachment of President Nixon by a 21–17 party-line vote, with all the committee's Democrats voting yes and all Republicans voting no

This is exactly the state at which we are with the Trump impeachment right now. And the votes mirror the Nixon impeachment Judiciary impeachment vote- entirely partisan.

Clinton
On December 11, 1998, the House Judiciary Committee voted on whether to present the three articles of impeachment to the full House of Representatives. On the first and second articles of impeachment, grand jury perjury and obstruction of justice, the Committee voted 21-to-17 to impeach, strictly on party lines; on the third article of impeachment, perjury, the Committee voted 20-to-18 to impeach, with Republican Lindsey Graham joining Democratic Committee Members in order to give President Clinton "the legal benefit of the doubt."[23] The next day, December 12, the House Judiciary Committee voted on the fourth and final article of impeachment, for making false statements, again strictly along party lines.[24]

So based upon 'precedent' what is happening now is exactly what has happened in every preceding impeachment. If impeachment only happened with bipartisan support- Nixon might have not resigned- since the last official stage of his impeachment was purely along partisan lines- exactly where we are right now.

 

[MisterBeale]

Trump will forever be seen as an incompetent illegitimate president, and now he will be known as one of the few who were impeached. What a loser.

How is he, "illegitimate?"

 

[MisterBeale]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting. It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors. To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation. Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency? Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals. Is this really the way we want to run this country?

I'm much more concerned about presidential abuse of power, but lying about a blowjob is apparently much more serious to some. Why isn't the whole Whitewater fiasco seen in the same light? I think the Republicans are being very two-faced about this and THAT'S not "the way we want to run this country".

but lying about a blowjob is apparently much more serious to some.

Lying about a blowjob to your wife, or your buddies is one thing, lying about a blowjob, or anything else, to a Grand Jury is something else.

Yet the motivation is exactly the same human reason, no matter who you're talking to.
It was none of our business, tbh, if he was getting bj's in the Oval. I'm not sure how that all came up but it's ridiculous to impeach a President for lying about something that has nothing to do with the country's business AT ALL. Yeah, he tried to squirm out of it. Wouldn't you? If the girl had taken her dress to the cleaners like she should have, we would currently be working on Impeachment #2, not #3.

Now, withholding aid to Ukraine IS our business, in a big way. Refusing to cooperate with Congress's investigation into it IS our business.

The truth about that, was they HAD TO nail him for something, b/c they did not want to let the nation know the truth about CHINAGATE.

If the nation knew that he had been trading America's high advanced military secrets for campaign contributions, the congress would have had not choice but to remove him. However, none of the CFR or trilateral elites wanted to do that. . . that had a plan to transfer that tech secrets so that China could manurfacture at a cheaper cost. It was in the interest of the multinationals.

So. . . no one ever paid the price for this treason.

They had to distract the nation from this truth, it never made the news. Most folks were completely unaware of it's significance in building China's economy up to what it is today.

". . . Janet Reno declined all requests:

I try to do one thing: what's right. I am trying to follow the independent counsel statute as it has been framed by Congress. If you had a lower threshold, then any time somebody said 'boo' about a covered person, you'd trigger the independent counsel statute

—Janet Reno, December 4, 1997.[51]

A CNN/Time poll taken in May 1998 found 58 percent of Americans felt an independent counsel should have been appointed to investigate the controversy. Thirty-three percent were opposed. The same poll found that 47 percent of Americans believed a quid pro quo existed between the Clinton administration and the PRC government.[52]

Criticism of investigation
In addition to partisan complaints from Republicans, columnists Charles Krauthammer, William Safire, and Morton Kondracke, as well as a number of FBI agents, suggested the investigations into the fund-raising controversies were willfully impeded.[53][54][55]

FBI agent Ivian Smith wrote a letter to FBI Director Freeh that expressed "a lack of confidence" in the Justice Department's attorneys regarding the fund-raising investigation. He wrote: "I am convinced the team at... [the Department of Justice] leading this investigation is, at best, simply not up to the task... The impression left is the emphasis on how not to prosecute matters, not how to aggressively conduct investigations leading to prosecutions." Smith and three other FBI agents later testified before Congress in late 1999 that Justice Department prosecutors impeded their inquiry. FBI agent Daniel Wehr told Congress that the first head U.S. attorney in the investigation, Laura Ingersoll, told the agents they should "not pursue any matter related to solicitation of funds for access to the president. The reason given was, 'That's the way the American political process works.' I was scandalized by that," Wehr said. The four FBI agents also said that Ingersoll prevented them from executing search warrants to stop destruction of evidence and micromanaged the case beyond all reason.[56]

FBI agents were also denied the opportunity to ask President Clinton and Vice President Gore questions during Justice Department interviews in 1997 and 1998 and were only allowed to take notes. During the interviews, neither Clinton nor Gore were asked any questions about fund-raisers John Huang and James Riady, nor the Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple fund-raising event led by Maria Hsia and attended by Huang and Ted Sioeng. . . "
1996 United States campaign finance controversy - Wikipedia


Just like they are distracting the nation now, from some far more sinister shit. I am not sure that it is just the stealing of the world's major source of Lithium in Bolivia for the future plans of the Green Economy. . . that might be all it is, but it could be something more sinister.

Just like when Bill was POTUS, this whole thing is a distraction, it is why Trump is not being questioned and why the whole thing is being treated like a reality show event in the media.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Secret?

Sounds like everyone above the rank of janitor in DC knew about it before the whistleblower did.

Secret as in Trump labeled the call itself 'secret'
Secret as in Trump limited the number of participants, and excluded those who normally would be included- such as the Ambassador to Ukraine.
Secret as in Trump limited the number of people who go access to the records of the call- such as not providing to the Ambassador to the Ukraine.
Secret as in stowing away in an ultra-secure storage facility intended for the most sensitive of American secrets.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

That was outrageous!!!
Biden's corruption must never be exposed.
All Dem corruption must remain hidden, especially if the Dem is a candidate for President....or any other office.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption? And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

If there is any evidence of any wrong doing by an American, we have our own law enforcement agencies to investigate Americans. We don't need secret phone calls to foreign countries to ask them to investigate political rivals.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption?

There is no corruption? That's a relief.
We should definitely appoint a Special Counsel......Biden has nothing to hide.

And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

Not my thread.

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens. If there is any evidence of wrong doing- then the FBI should be told to investigate it.

I have no problem with the FBI investigating any claims of crimes by the Biden's or the Trumps- do you?

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens.

Why not? Biden has nothing to hide.

 

[Syriusly]

Secret as in Trump labeled the call itself 'secret'
Secret as in Trump limited the number of participants, and excluded those who normally would be included- such as the Ambassador to Ukraine.
Secret as in Trump limited the number of people who go access to the records of the call- such as not providing to the Ambassador to the Ukraine.
Secret as in stowing away in an ultra-secure storage facility intended for the most sensitive of American secrets.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

That was outrageous!!!
Biden's corruption must never be exposed.
All Dem corruption must remain hidden, especially if the Dem is a candidate for President....or any other office.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption? And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

If there is any evidence of any wrong doing by an American, we have our own law enforcement agencies to investigate Americans. We don't need secret phone calls to foreign countries to ask them to investigate political rivals.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption?

There is no corruption? That's a relief.
We should definitely appoint a Special Counsel......Biden has nothing to hide.

And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

Not my thread.

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens. If there is any evidence of wrong doing- then the FBI should be told to investigate it.

I have no problem with the FBI investigating any claims of crimes by the Biden's or the Trumps- do you?

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens.

Why not? Biden has nothing to hide.

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens. If there is any evidence of wrong doing- then the FBI should be told to investigate it.

I have no problem with the FBI investigating any claims of crimes by the Biden's or the Trumps- do you?

 

[rightwinger]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

When you can impeach over lying about a blow job you can impeach over anything

Republicans have nothing to complain about

 

[toomuchtime_]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

When you can impeach over lying about a blow job you can impeach over anything

Republicans have nothing to complain about

lol As the hearings and articles of impeachment demonstrate, Democrats have nothing to complain about, but they just can't stop complaining anyway.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And secret as in Trump didn't want Americans to know that he was asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rival.

That was outrageous!!!
Biden's corruption must never be exposed.
All Dem corruption must remain hidden, especially if the Dem is a candidate for President....or any other office.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption? And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

If there is any evidence of any wrong doing by an American, we have our own law enforcement agencies to investigate Americans. We don't need secret phone calls to foreign countries to ask them to investigate political rivals.

What Biden corruption? Seriously- what Biden corruption?

There is no corruption? That's a relief.
We should definitely appoint a Special Counsel......Biden has nothing to hide.

And why are you trying to derail your own CDZ thread?

Not my thread.

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens. If there is any evidence of wrong doing- then the FBI should be told to investigate it.

I have no problem with the FBI investigating any claims of crimes by the Biden's or the Trumps- do you?

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens.

Why not? Biden has nothing to hide.

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens. If there is any evidence of wrong doing- then the FBI should be told to investigate it.

I have no problem with the FBI investigating any claims of crimes by the Biden's or the Trumps- do you?

Don't know why we need a Special Counsel- or the country of Ukraine- to investigate American citizens.

We had one to investigate Russian interference, why not Ukraine?

I have no problem with the FBI investigating any claims of crimes by the Biden's

I have no problem with a Special Counsel investigating any claims of crimes by the Biden's

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

When you can impeach over lying about a blow job you can impeach over anything

Republicans have nothing to complain about

Exactly!

Nothing wrong with dropping your pants and asking a state employee to kiss it, eh?

 

[rightwinger]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

When you can impeach over lying about a blow job you can impeach over anything

Republicans have nothing to complain about

lol As the hearings and articles of impeachment demonstrate, Democrats have nothing to complain about, but they just can't stop complaining anyway.

Seems they have quite a bit to complain about
So does America

 

[rightwinger]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

When you can impeach over lying about a blow job you can impeach over anything

Republicans have nothing to complain about

Exactly!

Nothing wrong with dropping your pants and asking a state employee to kiss it, eh?

You mean Stormy Daniels

 

[toomuchtime_]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

When you can impeach over lying about a blow job you can impeach over anything

Republicans have nothing to complain about

lol As the hearings and articles of impeachment demonstrate, Democrats have nothing to complain about, but they just can't stop complaining anyway.

Seems they have quite a bit to complain about
So does America

No, it's just what Democrats do, they complain. America is doing well under President Trump and voters are very likely to give him four more years.

 

[Syriusly]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

When you can impeach over lying about a blow job you can impeach over anything

Republicans have nothing to complain about

lol As the hearings and articles of impeachment demonstrate, Democrats have nothing to complain about, but they just can't stop complaining anyway.

lol- how many times did Trump tweet his daily whinings?

 

[Syriusly]

I am really concerned about the precedent this impeachment is setting.

It is along strict party lines. Very weak charges. No high crimes or misdemeanors.

To me it is not a legitimate impeachment but a Democrat Dirty Tricks Operation.

Is this going to be the precedent every time one party is in control of the House and another Party holds the Presidency?

Democrats should be just as concerned as Republicans because it could happen to them next. For instance, the Republican Congress could have impeached Obama over him abusing his power by using the IRS to disenfranchise his political rivals.

Is this really the way we want to run this country?

When you can impeach over lying about a blow job you can impeach over anything

Republicans have nothing to complain about

lol As the hearings and articles of impeachment demonstrate, Democrats have nothing to complain about, but they just can't stop complaining anyway.

Seems they have quite a bit to complain about
So does America

No, it's just what Democrats do, they complain. America is doing well under President Trump and voters are very likely to give him four more years.

Funny since all Trump does is complain about how anything that doesn't work out how he intended it, is someone else's fault.

Trump's twitter account is his snowflake generator.