If Ebola is so contagious why

[Flopper]

This has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Ebola. Got it, idiot?

It has everything to do with Obama. Because he fucked up the response, as he fucks up everything, you and the other hacks are circling the wagons with the usual "nothing to see here" routine.

Ebola passes through contact. Man a sneezes, the virus lands on your hand, you rub your eyes, nose, or mouth, and you become infected.

I've seen no one speak of "airborne," chances are you are confusing airborne with aerosol. There is a serious concern with aerosol contagion, coughing and sneezing, and there should be. Luckily the virus dies quickly on surfaces, still the little charade you play to protect your god is disgusting.

Obama is now responsible for Ebola

This has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Ebola. Got it, idiot?

It has everything to do with Obama. Because he fucked up the response, as he fucks up everything, you and the other hacks are circling the wagons with the usual "nothing to see here" routine.

Ebola passes through contact. Man a sneezes, the virus lands on your hand, you rub your eyes, nose, or mouth, and you become infected.

I've seen no one speak of "airborne," chances are you are confusing airborne with aerosol. There is a serious concern with aerosol contagion, coughing and sneezing, and there should be. Luckily the virus dies quickly on surfaces, still the little charade you play to protect your god is disgusting.

Obama is now responsible for the spread of Ebola

 

[AceRothstein]

No one knows how it is transmitted. Anyone claiming they know precisely are nothing but the Obamabots.

Go figure. Look at how desperate they are to save his disaster of a presidency and defend the fact he plays Russian roulette with the citizens of this country for political expediency.

NO EXPERT in the field is giving 100% guarantees. Like the myth of utopia that the left get sold to by the socialist politicians, guarantees are also a myth. Especially when it comes to infectious diseases.

In this particular disease, there is little actually known. Anyone claiming they do know for sure are following the political shit from this president and are true hacks.

You morons keep thinking people like me are fear mongering. I am reading ALL of the pertinent information and I am reading articles from the EXPERTS that have worked with this disease for OVER 40 years.

Now, go smoke pot you moronic socialist pieces of shit. All of you are true sock puppets for your fraud in chief.

Then explain why only two nurses, who treated Duncan directly, contracted it? No one else. Not the family he was living with ... not another passenger on any of the flights he was on ... not the fiancé he was sleeping with. Not any one of the other dozens of people who came in contact with him.

The persons best protected were the only ones infected....weird no?

Sent from smartphone using my wits and Taptalk

Everything I've read has suggested that those infected with Ebola are much more likely to infect someone else as the disease progresses.

 

[AceRothstein]

This has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Ebola. Got it, idiot?

It has everything to do with Obama. Because he fucked up the response, as he fucks up everything, you and the other hacks are circling the wagons with the usual "nothing to see here" routine.

Ebola passes through contact. Man a sneezes, the virus lands on your hand, you rub your eyes, nose, or mouth, and you become infected.

I've seen no one speak of "airborne," chances are you are confusing airborne with aerosol. There is a serious concern with aerosol contagion, coughing and sneezing, and there should be. Luckily the virus dies quickly on surfaces, still the little charade you play to protect your god is disgusting.

The people fear mongering about Ebola becoming airborne aren't talking about aerosol contagion, they are talking about respiratory contagion.

 

[Flopper]

No one knows how it is transmitted. Anyone claiming they know precisely are nothing but the Obamabots.

Go figure. Look at how desperate they are to save his disaster of a presidency and defend the fact he plays Russian roulette with the citizens of this country for political expediency.

NO EXPERT in the field is giving 100% guarantees. Like the myth of utopia that the left get sold to by the socialist politicians, guarantees are also a myth. Especially when it comes to infectious diseases.

In this particular disease, there is little actually known. Anyone claiming they do know for sure are following the political shit from this president and are true hacks.

You morons keep thinking people like me are fear mongering. I am reading ALL of the pertinent information and I am reading articles from the EXPERTS that have worked with this disease for OVER 40 years.

Now, go smoke pot you moronic socialist pieces of shit. All of you are true sock puppets for your fraud in chief.

Then explain why only two nurses, who treated Duncan directly, contracted it? No one else. Not the family he was living with ... not another passenger on any of the flights he was on ... not the fiancé he was sleeping with. Not any one of the other dozens of people who came in contact with him.

The persons best protected were the only ones infected....weird no?

Sent from smartphone using my wits and Taptalk

Everything I've read has suggested that those infected with Ebola are much more likely to infect someone else as the disease progresses.

I believe that to be at least partially true. When the virus first enters the body, there is little chance of spreading but as the virus replicates itself, symptoms develop and the victim becomes contagious. As the virus continues to replicate itself, the person becomes more contagious up to a point. A some point the virus stops replicating and the person becomes less contagious. This is in the final stages of the virus.

 

[Politico]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

If it's not contagious, then why are so many people in West Africa dying from it?

What a stupid question.

 

[Ravi]

I got it to work.

Very sad and her comment that stopping the disease at the epicenter is important. Restricting medical care by closing borders in those countries will more than likely, IMO, cause the spread of ebola across the entire continent.

How can that be Hacki - I mean Rati?

You just stated that Ebola doesn't pass easily? Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

Oh I know, truth is only that which serves Obama...

In third world countries without proper sanitation it does indeed spread more quickly.

 

[Ravi]

Yet his flight didn't originate in West Africa.

You're smarter than that. The ban would apply to travelers who originate from Ebola countries.

Like the US?

And how about Nigeria?

The U.S. is not an Ebola country - and Nigeria has successfully thwarted its outbreak because it did control its borders.

It still let people in via checkpoints. They are credited with success for:

"According to WHO, the success of Nigeria — Africa’s most populous nation — was attributable to ample funding, quick action and assistance from the WHO, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and the non-profit Doctors Without Borders.

Unlike the situation in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, “all identified contacts were physically monitored on a daily basis for 21 days. The few contacts who attempted to escape the monitoring system were all diligently tracked” by special teams and returned to observation."

Nigeria declared Ebola-free after only 8 deaths - The Washington Post

Basically exactly what we are doing. Except of course I doubt we've had any assistance from WHO or DWB.

20 people infected, eight died, that 40% kill rate I believe. Not bad but looks like we are going to beat it.

And apparently, according to WHO, you must have no active cases to be declared Ebola free. We aren't quite there yet.

There's been 8 cases treated in the US and so far only 1 has died. It the rest survive, then the death rate is looking like 12.5%. I suspect the death rate will end up being lower as we get better at early diagnosing and treatment. Also, the CDC has several experimental anti-viral drugs under consideration.

Actually, I re-read how they counted the survival rate. The initial patient that went to Nigeria with the infection was not counted, only those subsequently infected.

If you count our cases the same way, we have a 100% cure rate (if the two nurses are cured, which looks likely).

 

[Flopper]

I got it to work.

Very sad and her comment that stopping the disease at the epicenter is important. Restricting medical care by closing borders in those countries will more than likely, IMO, cause the spread of ebola across the entire continent.

How can that be Hacki - I mean Rati?

You just stated that Ebola doesn't pass easily? Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

Oh I know, truth is only that which serves Obama...

In third world countries without proper sanitation it does indeed spread more quickly.

Your absolutely correct, sanitation in these countries is a huge problem.

Families members don't turn to a funeral home or crematorium to take care of the bodies. They do it themselves.

Relatives personally wash the corpses of loved ones from head to toe. Before scrubbing the skin with soap and water, family members press down on the abdomen to excrete fluids still in the body. A mixture of camphor and water is used for a final washing. Then, family members dry off the body and shroud it in white linens. It's hard to imagine a more effective way of spreading the virus.

 

[Fang]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

smh You win dumbest post of the month award.

 

[PredFan]

He came from Liberia and had a visa that originated in that country.

Yet his flight didn't originate in West Africa.

You're smarter than that. The ban would apply to travelers who originate from Ebola countries.

Like the US?

And how about Nigeria?

The U.S. is not an Ebola country - and Nigeria has successfully thwarted its outbreak because it did control its borders.

It still let people in via checkpoints. They are credited with success for:

"According to WHO, the success of Nigeria — Africa’s most populous nation — was attributable to ample funding, quick action and assistance from the WHO, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and the non-profit Doctors Without Borders.

Unlike the situation in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, “all identified contacts were physically monitored on a daily basis for 21 days. The few contacts who attempted to escape the monitoring system were all diligently tracked” by special teams and returned to observation."

Nigeria declared Ebola-free after only 8 deaths - The Washington Post

Basically exactly what we are doing. Except of course I doubt we've had any assistance from WHO or DWB.

20 people infected, eight died, that 40% kill rate I believe. Not bad but looks like we are going to beat it.

And apparently, according to WHO, you must have no active cases to be declared Ebola free. We aren't quite there yet.

Nigeria also instituted a travel ban.

 

[PredFan]

No one Duncan lived with, rode with, or interacted with aside from two caregivers have become ill.

How did the two caregivers become infected. Rati?

They became infected because they fucked up the isolation protocol. They got careless.

 

[PredFan]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

Better question.

Why is Nurse Pham's boyfriend in quarantine, and how many people did he contact?

He's in quarantine for his safety and the safety of others, but I'll bet he never contracts it.

 

[PredFan]

go volunteer to treat ebola patients and confirm that it is not contagious

she'd have to go to West Africa, where everyday sanitation & electricity are not up to par w/ the First world, but you knew that didn't you? Thats why it spreads so easily over there..

you hop on a bus with her. funny how in this country who you claim is so well prepared, the CDC and our own president told us there was absolutely nothing to worry about 2 people contracted it. looks like it spread pretty easily here. in a well prepared hospital environment no less

There is nothing much to worry about unless you are a health care worker working in a poorly run hospital (like the two nurses). And I am happy to leave the health care to the experts. All you whining and claiming doom is upon us are the ones that "know" how to better act in the situation so in reality it is YOU that needs to put yourself on the line. Man up and go show them how it's done.

So why didn't any of Duncan's family members contract Ebola? For several day, they were totally unprotected in a close environment while he was contagious. Were they better protected than the nurses?

Perhaps they were more hygienic. Do a little research and you'll find that it is very easy to pick up an infection in a hospital. Especially one that lets an ebola patient stay in the general hospital population for days.

No, it's because Ebola isn't as infectious in it's early stages as people think.

 

[Ravi]

I got it to work.

Very sad and her comment that stopping the disease at the epicenter is important. Restricting medical care by closing borders in those countries will more than likely, IMO, cause the spread of ebola across the entire continent.

How can that be Hacki - I mean Rati?

You just stated that Ebola doesn't pass easily? Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

Oh I know, truth is only that which serves Obama...

In third world countries without proper sanitation it does indeed spread more quickly.

Your absolutely correct, sanitation in these countries is a huge problem.

Families members don't turn to a funeral home or crematorium to take care of the bodies. They do it themselves.

Relatives personally wash the corpses of loved ones from head to toe. Before scrubbing the skin with soap and water, family members press down on the abdomen to excrete fluids still in the body. A mixture of camphor and water is used for a final washing. Then, family members dry off the body and shroud it in white linens. It's hard to imagine a more effective way of spreading the virus.

Oh my. Sounds like some sort of training over there would be a good thing.

 

[PredFan]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

smh You win dumbest post of the month award.

Not only is it not a dumb question, it is a question of most importance to the public and a question that very few people have answered.

 

[Ravi]

Yet his flight didn't originate in West Africa.

You're smarter than that. The ban would apply to travelers who originate from Ebola countries.

Like the US?

And how about Nigeria?

The U.S. is not an Ebola country - and Nigeria has successfully thwarted its outbreak because it did control its borders.

It still let people in via checkpoints. They are credited with success for:

"According to WHO, the success of Nigeria — Africa’s most populous nation — was attributable to ample funding, quick action and assistance from the WHO, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and the non-profit Doctors Without Borders.

Unlike the situation in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, “all identified contacts were physically monitored on a daily basis for 21 days. The few contacts who attempted to escape the monitoring system were all diligently tracked” by special teams and returned to observation."

Nigeria declared Ebola-free after only 8 deaths - The Washington Post

Basically exactly what we are doing. Except of course I doubt we've had any assistance from WHO or DWB.

20 people infected, eight died, that 40% kill rate I believe. Not bad but looks like we are going to beat it.

And apparently, according to WHO, you must have no active cases to be declared Ebola free. We aren't quite there yet.

Nigeria also instituted a travel ban.

It let people in via checkpoints so it wasn't really a ban.

 

[Ravi]

she'd have to go to West Africa, where everyday sanitation & electricity are not up to par w/ the First world, but you knew that didn't you? Thats why it spreads so easily over there..

you hop on a bus with her. funny how in this country who you claim is so well prepared, the CDC and our own president told us there was absolutely nothing to worry about 2 people contracted it. looks like it spread pretty easily here. in a well prepared hospital environment no less

There is nothing much to worry about unless you are a health care worker working in a poorly run hospital (like the two nurses). And I am happy to leave the health care to the experts. All you whining and claiming doom is upon us are the ones that "know" how to better act in the situation so in reality it is YOU that needs to put yourself on the line. Man up and go show them how it's done.

So why didn't any of Duncan's family members contract Ebola? For several day, they were totally unprotected in a close environment while he was contagious. Were they better protected than the nurses?

Perhaps they were more hygienic. Do a little research and you'll find that it is very easy to pick up an infection in a hospital. Especially one that lets an ebola patient stay in the general hospital population for days.

No, it's because Ebola isn't as infectious in it's early stages as people think.

Again. Duncan wasn't in the early stages when he was checked in to the hospital.

 

[PredFan]

Flopper is still comparing the common flu to Ebola everyone, all while thinking he is making some valid point.

Flopper, like every fucking know it all piece of shit liberal, is nothing but an ignorant gas bag.

You lost ALL credibility by even hinting that Ebola is comparable to the flu. Stop posting your stupid dreck. It is that, fucking moronic.

Imbecile...

Forget Ebola, you're far more at risk for this

With the annual flu season looming, hospitals and doctors are preparing themselves for emergency rooms that may become flooded with patients who fear Ebola but instead have influenza, which can cause similar symptoms in the early stages such as fever and body aches.

But fear often trumps common sense, even though people should be far more worried about the flu given the toll it is known to take every year, doctors said.​

These comparisons are useless and stupid.

Two years ago in Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Liberia, you were more likely to die of Malaria than of ebola. Please stop.

 

[PredFan]

The amount of speculation alone about Ebola being airborne, without evidence, is flat out hysteria. All being driven by right wing nut jobs.

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Protect


Obama


Got it, hack!

This has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with Ebola. Got it, idiot?

Not entirely true and you know it.

 

[PredFan]

I got it to work.

Very sad and her comment that stopping the disease at the epicenter is important. Restricting medical care by closing borders in those countries will more than likely, IMO, cause the spread of ebola across the entire continent.

How can that be Hacki - I mean Rati?

You just stated that Ebola doesn't pass easily? Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

Oh I know, truth is only that which serves Obama...

To be clear, here are the facts:

Ebola doesn't pass easily in the early stages of infection. This is why Duncan's family isn't infected, nor are the EMTs who transported him to the ER after he threw up blood.

Ebola is highly infectious when a patient is in the latter stages of the disease and immediately after the patient has died. This is why two nurses got infected despite isolation procedures. Which they obviously screwed up.

To say in a blanket statement: "Ebola isn't very infectious" is wrong. Likewise to say: "Ebola is highly infectious" is wrong as well.