CDZ Helping Rape Victims come forward.

[AzogtheDefiler]

#CryWolf

 

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Was there corroborating evidence against the accused priests?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Rape statistics
I did not think there was any doubt about that.

Those aren't rape statistics. Those are contact calls, services and hits on the site. There is an approximate number that came from this:
An Overview of Sexual Offending in England & Wales, Joint publication - ONS

You will note that it documents the difficulty in accuracy. But, even if we pretend that it presents the most accurate information, the contact calls and services accessed provide your answer for you. This would be a change that has already occurred in coming forward to report. No?

Your link and my link give the same figure of 15%. Which backs up my assertion that the vast majority of offences go unreported.

Because it's from the same link.......


You don't have anything.

So I dont understand your problem. Are you saying that most rapes get reported ?

I'm telling you that you can't make that claim. It's inaccurate.

No it isnt.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Part of the problem here is that the radical left has pushed to broaden the definition of sexual assault to the point it is nearly meaningless. A drunk guy at a party who grabs a girl's butt is now guilty of "sexual assault" just as if he were a man who jumped out of the bushes, overpowered a woman and actually raped her.

Yes, women who have actually been raped should be encouraged to come forward. There is such a witch hunt atmosphe these days (excepting towards Muslims), however, that much of what is being encouraged is accusations against men for actions that are not rape at all.

Sheesh - I used to hitchhike all the time and had several experiences with men trying to make a grab for the goodies. I always stopped them in time, but (XXXX-- CDZ edit) alive, I was not sexually assaulted. If they had overpowered me and done something, then I WOULD have been sexually assaulted.

Liberalism used to be all about shades of grey Today's crowd seems incapable of distinguishing between one thing and another at all. All these useless snowflakes calling anything they wish "sexual assault" is an absolute insult to all those who HAVE been sexually assaulted.

I see the me too movement as part of the problem instead of part of the solution do to their blurring of the lines.

 

[Disir]

Those aren't rape statistics. Those are contact calls, services and hits on the site. There is an approximate number that came from this:
An Overview of Sexual Offending in England & Wales, Joint publication - ONS

You will note that it documents the difficulty in accuracy. But, even if we pretend that it presents the most accurate information, the contact calls and services accessed provide your answer for you. This would be a change that has already occurred in coming forward to report. No?

Your link and my link give the same figure of 15%. Which backs up my assertion that the vast majority of offences go unreported.

Because it's from the same link.......


You don't have anything.

So I dont understand your problem. Are you saying that most rapes get reported ?

I'm telling you that you can't make that claim. It's inaccurate.

No it isnt.

Yep. It's an over glorified survey. We have the same issue with the NCVS. It's not reliable.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Apparently most rapes do not get reported by the victims.

Which means that many rapists are out there and free to carry on with their crimes.

Do you think the culture today is sympthetic to victims or should more be done to help them ?

If so what should, or could , be done ?

How is it apparently if they are unreported?

The claim of unreported rape has been around a long time.

But no one can answer how we can know how many there are if they are unreported.

By definition unreported means no data or knowledge of then.

I am sure some crimes including rape go unreported but trying to measure them when they are unreported is an exercise in futility.

I believe unreported refers to not having reported the rape to the police, that doesn't mean it wasn't reported or relayed to someone else, like a physician or priest, or counselor.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

A drunk guy at a party who grabs a girl's butt is now guilty of "sexual assault" just as if he were a man who jumped out of the bushes, overpowered a woman and actually raped her.

This is the very reason this is such a contentious and hateful topic for so many. One may not be as traumatizing as the other but they both are legally a sexual assault

Assault. At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/assault

Sexual assault?
The term sexual assault refers to sexual contact or behavior that occurs without explicit consent of the victim. Some forms of sexual assault include:

• Attempted rape
• Fondling or unwanted sexual touching
• Forcing a victim to perform sexual acts, such as oral sex or penetrating the perpetrator’s body
• Penetration of the victim’s body, also known as rape
  Sexual Assault | RAINN

We know a significant portion of men don't believe that they should be accuratedly labeled according to their behavior and believe that the only people who are actually rapist are those whom have been convicted of such crime by a court of law. However if you read the statutes, the violation of the criminal code occurs at the time of the act. If you sexually assault anyone involving pentration without their consent and/or against their will (including if they originally consented but then withdrew consent) that makes you a rapist, whether the victim reported it or not, whether you were tried for it or not and whether you were convicted or not. You may not be a convicted rapist, but you're a rapist nonethless. This goes for every single person who has committed this offense.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Padma Lakshmi opens up about her rape: “I'm speaking now because I want us all to fight”

Model and actress Padma Lakshmi opened up about her experience as a survivor of rape in a new op-ed published in the New York Timeson Tuesday. Lakshmi, who hosts the long-running Bravo cooking competition show Top Chef, joins countless other survivors who have shared their own stories amid the recent debate over sexual assault allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh by a former high school acquaintance, Christine Blasey Ford.

In the op-ed, Lakshmi described being raped by a 23-year-old man when she was 16, and said that she waited for years to disclose what had happened. “On Friday, President Trump tweeted that if what Dr. Ford said was true, she would have filed a police report years ago,” Lakshmi wrote.

“But I understand why both women would keep this information to themselves for so many years, without involving the police. For years, I did the same thing. On Friday, I tweeted about what had happened to me so many years ago.”

Lakshmi described the assault, by the man who she had gone on some dates with. While she was sleeping at his apartment after a party, she said, she woke up to him raping her. She did not tell her friends, her family and “certainly not” the police, Lakshmi wrote in the op-ed.

I think that a good start would be to listen to girls like these.

 

[Leo123]

Apparently most rapes do not get reported by the victims.

Which means that many rapists are out there and free to carry on with their crimes.

Do you think the culture today is sympthetic to victims or should more be done to help them ?

If so what should, or could , be done ?

Make #MeToo an illegal organization. That would help.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Apparently most rapes do not get reported by the victims.

Which means that many rapists are out there and free to carry on with their crimes.

Do you think the culture today is sympthetic to victims or should more be done to help them ?

If so what should, or could , be done ?

Make #MeToo an illegal organization. That would help.

I don't think bemoaning like Tommy in terms of the utter hatred for free speech is the way to go.

The organization should never be made illegal. They should simmply be mocked for their utter hypocrisy and disregard for basic liberal values such as innocent until proven guilty.

I cant see metoo as anything but positive. I am sure they have helped many women to come forward. I am sure leo was just trying to be funny.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Apparently most rapes do not get reported by the victims.

Which means that many rapists are out there and free to carry on with their crimes.

Do you think the culture today is sympthetic to victims or should more be done to help them ?

If so what should, or could , be done ?

The problem is you don't actually have to have a credible claim just an axe to grind and a lib ear to hear it. I once got arrested for removing Absurd Decorations from my murdered fathers grave placed by the Family of the Murderers family. family had a "friend" on Police Dept and in Prosecutors office who pushed this My beliefs don't allow for Grave decorations But my beliefs werenot allowed to be used in my defense. Liberal Dem judge too!

Making a claim is one thing but proving it is another. It very often comes down to his word against hers.And i think this is part of the reason women wont come forward.

 

[Leo123]

I cant see metoo as anything but positive. I am sure they have helped many women to come forward. I am sure leo was just trying to be funny.

#MeToo is an androphobic organization funded by the far left.

 

[captkaos]

With most if not all dems Libs Socialists etc. The truth is what I say "today" if it comes out to be a lie later. Well then I just mispoke this is the truth now honest. until tomorrow or later today if the lie doesn't fly we'll just change the answer to fit our goal

 

[Leo123]

Making a claim is one thing but proving it is another. It very often comes down to his word against hers.And i think this is part of the reason women wont come forward.

And sometimes when they do come forward, (like say.....Juanita Broderick) they get trashed by a Democrat smear machine. Please note that is not happening here. This woman is being treated with utmost respect by the person she has accused. I find it interesting that the Democrats and the MSM do not afford the same sense of fairness to the accused. This is a political lynching IMO.

 

[captkaos]

Yes...the culture is far more helpful to rape victims than ever before. I have relative who is a police officer. They had a young girl arrested for prostitution and he told her....I know you are being trafficked and we can help you...he didn't take the old view of her being a criminal...... the view of women being attacked has changed..... it would be nice if the other party would stop using that as a weapon against normal men.

There needs to be an attitude change.That is a good example of more progressive thinking.

Maybe it wasn't offensive until they decided they could gain from coming forward

Tommy, your op states "apparently most rapes do not get reported by the victims" You have no way of verifying that; therefore, you don't get to decide what and whose attitude needs to change. You have nothing to base it on.

Rape statistics
I did not think there was any doubt about that.

Those aren't rape statistics. Those are contact calls, services and hits on the site. There is an approximate number that came from this:
An Overview of Sexual Offending in England & Wales, Joint publication - ONS

You will note that it documents the difficulty in accuracy. But, even if we pretend that it presents the most accurate information, the contact calls and services accessed provide your answer for you. This would be a change that has already occurred in coming forward to report. No?

Your link and my link give the same figure of 15%. Which backs up my assertion that the vast majority of offences go unreported.

 

[Correll]

First there needs to be consequences for women lying about being raped. Jail time and civil law suits is a good start.

How about jail time for men who lie about not raping people when they actually did so? Civil suits? Let's get the whole picture out there. You don't seem to know that men lie like crazy about these things. Honey, men lie like rugs.

You really want to start making an issue of hitting convicted criminals with perjury for lying when they claim to be innocent?

You want to think that though first? Cause the primary people impacted is not going to be Republicans.

 

[Papageorgio]

Padma Lakshmi opens up about her rape: “I'm speaking now because I want us all to fight”

Model and actress Padma Lakshmi opened up about her experience as a survivor of rape in a new op-ed published in the New York Timeson Tuesday. Lakshmi, who hosts the long-running Bravo cooking competition show Top Chef, joins countless other survivors who have shared their own stories amid the recent debate over sexual assault allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh by a former high school acquaintance, Christine Blasey Ford.

In the op-ed, Lakshmi described being raped by a 23-year-old man when she was 16, and said that she waited for years to disclose what had happened. “On Friday, President Trump tweeted that if what Dr. Ford said was true, she would have filed a police report years ago,” Lakshmi wrote.

“But I understand why both women would keep this information to themselves for so many years, without involving the police. For years, I did the same thing. On Friday, I tweeted about what had happened to me so many years ago.”

Lakshmi described the assault, by the man who she had gone on some dates with. While she was sleeping at his apartment after a party, she said, she woke up to him raping her. She did not tell her friends, her family and “certainly not” the police, Lakshmi wrote in the op-ed.

I think that a good start would be to listen to girls like these.

We do listen, but does just saying it happened make it true? Do we then automatically condemn the man involved as being guilty?

 

[Freiheit]

First there needs to be consequences for women lying about being raped. Jail time and civil law suits is a good start.

How about jail time for men who lie about not raping people when they actually did so? Civil suits? Let's get the whole picture out there. You don't seem to know that men lie like crazy about these things. Honey, men lie like rugs.

They do get jail time on conviction silly goose. Civil suits require assets to seize.
The truth is human beings lie like rugs take it to the bank.

 

[Tilly]

Apparently most rapes do not get reported by the victims.

Which means that many rapists are out there and free to carry on with their crimes.

Do you think the culture today is sympthetic to victims or should more be done to help them ?

If so what should, or could , be done ?

Well, maybe in the UK, the rapes of young British girls should not be brushed under the rug if the rapists are "Asian" minorities, right? I mean you could start there.

I think a lot of lessons have been learned there. But that is just a small part of the overall picture.

No, it’s hardly a small part of the picture, it’s a nationwide problem involving tens of thousands of girls, some who have died as a result of the abuse.

And no, other than black outs on reporting who the perps are when they are ‘asian’, no lessons have been learned. One would have thought since you started this thread you’d realise that.

Maybe you should take the time to read the accounts of the girls who were raped and gang raped and drugged who say nothing much has changed.

Also, one would have thought the fact that the bulk of the grooming gangs are ‘asian’ and this still cannot be discussed without screams of racist from the left and sackings of those brave enough to try, would have made you realise that NO lessons have most certainly not be learned.

Young girls were called racists by the authorities for identifying the perps, now politicians are called racists, hounded and sacked for attempting to discuss the ‘asian’ problem.

It would be nice if you yourself would stop brushing this horror story under the rug just because the perps are largely ‘asian’ - your attitude is precisely what stops these poor girls from coming forward - something you now claim to be concerned about!

 

[Tilly]

I think a lot of lessons have been learned there. But that is just a small part of the overall picture.

That is a horrendous part of the overall picture, at least in the UK. Underage girls, adult men. The adult men were not held to account because they weren't the right skin tone and religion. The media was hush about it for political correctness. The girls didn't matter as much because they were poor and white.

Utterly, utterly horrendous. Shameful.

I agree that it was horrendous but I dont agree with your underlying point that it was a big conspiracy against poor white girls. The media broke the story and has covered it in depth.
Anyway, that being said perhaps you could address the OP>

I am directly addressing the OP. Most rapes are not reported. What can be done to address this?

Well, how about we address the PC climate culture dead on? If you are a white male rapist, chick is in luck. She will get all kinds of kudos and sympathy. If you are dating Keith Ellison, not so very much. Or Bill Clinton, God help you, the rape never happened.

I have no idea who Keith Ellison is but I sense that you are making this a political issue. The vast majority of rape victims were probably not raped by Bill Clinton so your point is not really appropriate.

You've been on this board for years. Why the sudden concern about rape now?

But no concern with the NATION WIDE ‘asian’ grooming paedophile rape gangs - as usual.
That’s all sorted!