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I've never been in a Starbucks--there aren't any around here. I wouldn't know what any of those kinds of coffee are, anyway, that I see people order on the tv and in movies. I had a great cup of something years ago at a Borders Books cafe with a big thick milk foam on top--that was great. Then Borders went out of business and I don't remember what you call it.No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in. Before a purchase. Did they decide that part of the story didn't happen, or does it not matter anymore why the waitress asked them to leave after they gave her lip for not giving them the code?It's bad enough that just about every liberal in America is flat-out bonkers on just about everything, especially race. But one would hope that a top cop of a major American city would have common sense, and a responsibility to THE LAW, rather than what makes mouthy blacks in Black Lives Matter feel good.
Unfortunately, the top cop of Phildelphia has gone from taking a correct position (that his cops enforced the law properly), to caving in to political pressure of some looney tunes, who turn everything where black people are involved, into a racial incident.
The Starbucks arrests of 2 black guys trespassing and inerfering with the operation of a business, were done as they should be. The 2 thugs arrested, had no right to sit in the restaurant and occupy 2 seats needed by paying customers, when they weren't buying anything, and were asked to leave. They had no right to refuse to leave.
This isn't a civil rights case, it's a simple matter of LAW, which the police chief was right about originally, and then curiously, changed his position and denounced the arrests. Bad decision on his part. It's unfair to Starbucks, unfair to the cops who made the arrests, unfair to Starbucks paying customers who need a place to sit, and unfair to everyone in Philadelphia who is entitled to lawful policing.
Generally, in cases like this (where things get done to favor blacks, regardless of the law), there's a Democrat mayor behind it all. Ordinarily, this Democrat mayor (Jim Kenney) will get zero publicity, leftist media won't say a word about him, and the whole incident will be portrayed as something about discriminating against blacks.
So add one more item to the list of lawbreakers being allowed to block traffic in Democrat mayor cities, thugs being allowed to chase and attack people going to Trump rallies, rioters burning and looting, more rioters throwing rocks at cops, etc etc.
Few things could be more obvious a reason to vote for Republicans in city official elections, governors, and other political offices. Liberals often hold signs reading "The Whole World Is Watching". Well, yes it is. And people around the world must (correctly) deduce that America is a nation gone mad, when it comes to derailed law enforcement in Democrat-ruled jurisdictions.
no one in any starbucks ever makes you make a purchase BEFORE getting the bathroom code. cause who on earth wants to take a $5 coffee into a germy bathroom?
as for the bigot you're responding to.... the bigot response to people who aren't white being mistreated is ABSOLUTELY the best possible reason to toss the GOP and marginalize the trumpscum for being the white supremacist losers that they are.
oh....No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in
My.....
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!!!!!!!! THE SMOKING GUN!
Has anybody here ever been arrested for asking to use a bathroom?
Whites at that location had used the wifi set ups without purchase.
Whites at the location had used the bathroom without purchase.
protectionis is arguing because . . . ?
Honestly, this is only a fraction as ridiculous as most of what that loon postsoh....No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in
My.....
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!!!!!!!! THE SMOKING GUN!
Has anybody here ever been arrested for asking to use a bathroom?
Let alone a whole 2 MINUTES after entering. This never should have happened.
And the OP is a loon for even posting this drivel.
the critical point is this has not been proven to be racially motivated at alloh....No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in
My.....
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!!!!!!!! THE SMOKING GUN!
Has anybody here ever been arrested for asking to use a bathroom?
Let alone a whole 2 MINUTES after entering. This never should have happened.
And the OP is a loon for even posting this drivel.
Not at all. Tough job. Why do you hate cops when they enforce antisegregation and pro civil rights laws?Oh, cop-hater, huh ?The cops? Yes, they do.
..the ones by me are super busy...they have customers constantly going throughI've never been in a Starbucks--there aren't any around here. I wouldn't know what any of those kinds of coffee are, anyway, that I see people order on the tv and in movies. I had a great cup of something years ago at a Borders Books cafe with a big thick milk foam on top--that was great. Then Borders went out of business and I don't remember what you call it.No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in. Before a purchase. Did they decide that part of the story didn't happen, or does it not matter anymore why the waitress asked them to leave after they gave her lip for not giving them the code?It's bad enough that just about every liberal in America is flat-out bonkers on just about everything, especially race. But one would hope that a top cop of a major American city would have common sense, and a responsibility to THE LAW, rather than what makes mouthy blacks in Black Lives Matter feel good.
Unfortunately, the top cop of Phildelphia has gone from taking a correct position (that his cops enforced the law properly), to caving in to political pressure of some looney tunes, who turn everything where black people are involved, into a racial incident.
The Starbucks arrests of 2 black guys trespassing and inerfering with the operation of a business, were done as they should be. The 2 thugs arrested, had no right to sit in the restaurant and occupy 2 seats needed by paying customers, when they weren't buying anything, and were asked to leave. They had no right to refuse to leave.
This isn't a civil rights case, it's a simple matter of LAW, which the police chief was right about originally, and then curiously, changed his position and denounced the arrests. Bad decision on his part. It's unfair to Starbucks, unfair to the cops who made the arrests, unfair to Starbucks paying customers who need a place to sit, and unfair to everyone in Philadelphia who is entitled to lawful policing.
Generally, in cases like this (where things get done to favor blacks, regardless of the law), there's a Democrat mayor behind it all. Ordinarily, this Democrat mayor (Jim Kenney) will get zero publicity, leftist media won't say a word about him, and the whole incident will be portrayed as something about discriminating against blacks.
So add one more item to the list of lawbreakers being allowed to block traffic in Democrat mayor cities, thugs being allowed to chase and attack people going to Trump rallies, rioters burning and looting, more rioters throwing rocks at cops, etc etc.
Few things could be more obvious a reason to vote for Republicans in city official elections, governors, and other political offices. Liberals often hold signs reading "The Whole World Is Watching". Well, yes it is. And people around the world must (correctly) deduce that America is a nation gone mad, when it comes to derailed law enforcement in Democrat-ruled jurisdictions.
no one in any starbucks ever makes you make a purchase BEFORE getting the bathroom code. cause who on earth wants to take a $5 coffee into a germy bathroom?
as for the bigot you're responding to.... the bigot response to people who aren't white being mistreated is ABSOLUTELY the best possible reason to toss the GOP and marginalize the trumpscum for being the white supremacist losers that they are.
No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in. Before a purchase. Did they decide that part of the story didn't happen, or does it not matter anymore why the waitress asked them to leave after they gave her lip for not giving them the code?It's bad enough that just about every liberal in America is flat-out bonkers on just about everything, especially race. But one would hope that a top cop of a major American city would have common sense, and a responsibility to THE LAW, rather than what makes mouthy blacks in Black Lives Matter feel good.
Unfortunately, the top cop of Phildelphia has gone from taking a correct position (that his cops enforced the law properly), to caving in to political pressure of some looney tunes, who turn everything where black people are involved, into a racial incident.
The Starbucks arrests of 2 black guys trespassing and inerfering with the operation of a business, were done as they should be. The 2 thugs arrested, had no right to sit in the restaurant and occupy 2 seats needed by paying customers, when they weren't buying anything, and were asked to leave. They had no right to refuse to leave.
This isn't a civil rights case, it's a simple matter of LAW, which the police chief was right about originally, and then curiously, changed his position and denounced the arrests. Bad decision on his part. It's unfair to Starbucks, unfair to the cops who made the arrests, unfair to Starbucks paying customers who need a place to sit, and unfair to everyone in Philadelphia who is entitled to lawful policing.
Generally, in cases like this (where things get done to favor blacks, regardless of the law), there's a Democrat mayor behind it all. Ordinarily, this Democrat mayor (Jim Kenney) will get zero publicity, leftist media won't say a word about him, and the whole incident will be portrayed as something about discriminating against blacks.
So add one more item to the list of lawbreakers being allowed to block traffic in Democrat mayor cities, thugs being allowed to chase and attack people going to Trump rallies, rioters burning and looting, more rioters throwing rocks at cops, etc etc.
Few things could be more obvious a reason to vote for Republicans in city official elections, governors, and other political offices. Liberals often hold signs reading "The Whole World Is Watching". Well, yes it is. And people around the world must (correctly) deduce that America is a nation gone mad, when it comes to derailed law enforcement in Democrat-ruled jurisdictions.
No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in. Before a purchase. Did they decide that part of the story didn't happen, or does it not matter anymore why the waitress asked them to leave after they gave her lip for not giving them the code?It's bad enough that just about every liberal in America is flat-out bonkers on just about everything, especially race. But one would hope that a top cop of a major American city would have common sense, and a responsibility to THE LAW, rather than what makes mouthy blacks in Black Lives Matter feel good.
Unfortunately, the top cop of Phildelphia has gone from taking a correct position (that his cops enforced the law properly), to caving in to political pressure of some looney tunes, who turn everything where black people are involved, into a racial incident.
The Starbucks arrests of 2 black guys trespassing and inerfering with the operation of a business, were done as they should be. The 2 thugs arrested, had no right to sit in the restaurant and occupy 2 seats needed by paying customers, when they weren't buying anything, and were asked to leave. They had no right to refuse to leave.
This isn't a civil rights case, it's a simple matter of LAW, which the police chief was right about originally, and then curiously, changed his position and denounced the arrests. Bad decision on his part. It's unfair to Starbucks, unfair to the cops who made the arrests, unfair to Starbucks paying customers who need a place to sit, and unfair to everyone in Philadelphia who is entitled to lawful policing.
Generally, in cases like this (where things get done to favor blacks, regardless of the law), there's a Democrat mayor behind it all. Ordinarily, this Democrat mayor (Jim Kenney) will get zero publicity, leftist media won't say a word about him, and the whole incident will be portrayed as something about discriminating against blacks.
So add one more item to the list of lawbreakers being allowed to block traffic in Democrat mayor cities, thugs being allowed to chase and attack people going to Trump rallies, rioters burning and looting, more rioters throwing rocks at cops, etc etc.
Few things could be more obvious a reason to vote for Republicans in city official elections, governors, and other political offices. Liberals often hold signs reading "The Whole World Is Watching". Well, yes it is. And people around the world must (correctly) deduce that America is a nation gone mad, when it comes to derailed law enforcement in Democrat-ruled jurisdictions.
no one in any starbucks ever makes you make a purchase BEFORE getting the bathroom code. cause who on earth wants to take a $5 coffee into a germy bathroom?
as for the bigot you're responding to.... the bigot response to people who aren't white being mistreated is ABSOLUTELY the best possible reason to toss the GOP and marginalize the trumpscum for being the white supremacist losers that they are.
the critical point is this has not been proven to be racially motivated at alloh....No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in
My.....
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!!!!!!!! THE SMOKING GUN!
Has anybody here ever been arrested for asking to use a bathroom?
Let alone a whole 2 MINUTES after entering. This never should have happened.
And the OP is a loon for even posting this drivel.
..to my knowledge, the white customers did not ask to use the bathroom--that's the difference
..there is no way anyone can say if a white asked to use the restroom, he would've been treated differently
..it doesn't matter if other WHITE costumers are there not buying
..the other thing is employees/cops/guards/etc enforce laws-rules-etc differently
..some are stricter than others
...a Starbuck employee in Florida might enforce the rules differently than in NYork, CA, or anywhere
..so it doesn't matter if whites in a Starbucks are not told to leave
A-Run, Run, Run, Run, Runaway..the ones by me are super busy...they have customers constantly going throughI've never been in a Starbucks--there aren't any around here. I wouldn't know what any of those kinds of coffee are, anyway, that I see people order on the tv and in movies. I had a great cup of something years ago at a Borders Books cafe with a big thick milk foam on top--that was great. Then Borders went out of business and I don't remember what you call it.No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in. Before a purchase. Did they decide that part of the story didn't happen, or does it not matter anymore why the waitress asked them to leave after they gave her lip for not giving them the code?It's bad enough that just about every liberal in America is flat-out bonkers on just about everything, especially race. But one would hope that a top cop of a major American city would have common sense, and a responsibility to THE LAW, rather than what makes mouthy blacks in Black Lives Matter feel good.
Unfortunately, the top cop of Phildelphia has gone from taking a correct position (that his cops enforced the law properly), to caving in to political pressure of some looney tunes, who turn everything where black people are involved, into a racial incident.
The Starbucks arrests of 2 black guys trespassing and inerfering with the operation of a business, were done as they should be. The 2 thugs arrested, had no right to sit in the restaurant and occupy 2 seats needed by paying customers, when they weren't buying anything, and were asked to leave. They had no right to refuse to leave.
This isn't a civil rights case, it's a simple matter of LAW, which the police chief was right about originally, and then curiously, changed his position and denounced the arrests. Bad decision on his part. It's unfair to Starbucks, unfair to the cops who made the arrests, unfair to Starbucks paying customers who need a place to sit, and unfair to everyone in Philadelphia who is entitled to lawful policing.
Generally, in cases like this (where things get done to favor blacks, regardless of the law), there's a Democrat mayor behind it all. Ordinarily, this Democrat mayor (Jim Kenney) will get zero publicity, leftist media won't say a word about him, and the whole incident will be portrayed as something about discriminating against blacks.
So add one more item to the list of lawbreakers being allowed to block traffic in Democrat mayor cities, thugs being allowed to chase and attack people going to Trump rallies, rioters burning and looting, more rioters throwing rocks at cops, etc etc.
Few things could be more obvious a reason to vote for Republicans in city official elections, governors, and other political offices. Liberals often hold signs reading "The Whole World Is Watching". Well, yes it is. And people around the world must (correctly) deduce that America is a nation gone mad, when it comes to derailed law enforcement in Democrat-ruled jurisdictions.
no one in any starbucks ever makes you make a purchase BEFORE getting the bathroom code. cause who on earth wants to take a $5 coffee into a germy bathroom?
as for the bigot you're responding to.... the bigot response to people who aren't white being mistreated is ABSOLUTELY the best possible reason to toss the GOP and marginalize the trumpscum for being the white supremacist losers that they are.
.. I only go when I need to waste time--of course I buy something
..I would also go to one every Sunday about 8 miles away....I had to drop my kid off and waste time
..
Philadelphia mayor Jim Kenney (the only reason the 2 thugs were released) said this >> the incident "appears to exemplify what racial discrimination looks like in 2018." He added that the apology from Starbucks "is not enough" and that he would ask the Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations to examine the firm's policies and procedures and whether there should be bias training for its employees.
Black men arrested at Philadelphia Starbucks agree to meet with CEO
Yeah, go after those black votes, Jimmy boy. don't let a single one of them get away. And don't forget to submit this for the Pander of the Year 2018 Award.
See? "Thugs"....Tell us exactly what WAS their "thuggish" behavior?What do the cops have to do with it ? The thugs were breaking the law before the cops arrived, by causing a public nuisance and trespassing.I already knew that part. The part I was wondering about was how they acted when the cops arrived. Why THAT got so out of control that they ended up in handcuffs?Sometimes responding/informing once, is not enough. OK. Let's do it again >>Look, I can see both sides of this one. Not the arresting the guys part, so much. If I'm going to take a position on something like this, though, I'll be goddamned if I'll do it without telling the whole story.
I can understand why two black guys who walk into Starbucks to meet a friend and ask to use the bathroom get told they need to make a purchase. They apparently weren't in the mood for that answer, took it that she said that because they were black and caused a stink. I can understand being in that kind of a mood some times if I were a black guy. I'm not saying they deserved to be arrested for it. But no one should be just telling half the story and branding Starbucks as racist because they have a store policy that only paying customers get to use the bathrooms. That's pretty much standard EVERY PLACE and why these guys think they were above that, I don't know. Maybe they had been there before and been let in, I don't know. Do I think in a city like Philly that NO BLACK Starbucks CUSTOMER has ever been given the code to the bathroom without having a purchase before him? No.
The cops should never have arrested them, though, unless they became nasty and also refused to leave when the cops told them to. DID ANYONE OF THE OTHER CUSTOMERS IN THE STORE CONSIDER JUST BUYING THESE GUYS TWO CUPS OF COFFEE SO THE WAITRESS WOULD GIVE THEM THE CODE?
I guess there wasn't time, considering how fast this went south.
From Post # 7 >>
"A police report states the men cursed at the manager after she told them bathrooms are for customers only.
She called 911 to report that the men were not making a purchase, and were refusing to leave."
Men Arrested At Philadelphia Starbucks Speak Out; Police Commissioner Apologizes
See Post # 12 >> Title 18, section 6504 of the Pennsylvania Statutes
We HAVE heard from her. In the police report. I posted further back in the thread.The one person we haven't heard from in this unanticipated controversy is Holly, the Starbucks' manager who has been fired. Until we do hear from her we must draw conclusions based on what we either know or can assume.
I will assume that Holly was promoted to Manager because she did a good job of promoting Starbucks' interests. And I will assume the two individuals who Holly called the police about were not the first and only Blacks to patronize her store. So something extraordinary obviously took place, which I suspect was those two Black guys behaving like the ghetto-rat ******* they probably are. And because the outcome of the incident could be detrimental to Starbucks' extremely Liberal image it was convenient to toss Holly under the bus rather than risk a Black protest.
HA HA. You make some good posts. Down to earth and true.I've never been in a Starbucks--there aren't any around here. I wouldn't know what any of those kinds of coffee are, anyway, that I see people order on the tv and in movies. I had a great cup of something years ago at a Borders Books cafe with a big thick milk foam on top--that was great. Then Borders went out of business and I don't remember what you call it.
Who said it was 2 minutes ? Got a source ? Got a link ? Got anything ?Let alone a whole 2 MINUTES after entering. This never should have happened.
And the OP is a loon for even posting this drivel.
You shouldn't be asking because he never produced a shred of evidence, when challenged to do so.Because.....
Sure doesn't fit with that Obama/Sharpton/Jackson spoon-fed propaganda, does it ?Honestly, this is only a fraction as ridiculous as most of what that loon posts
In any city, I assume that's a problem. Do you remember when gas station bathrooms had outside doors and you had to go request the key from the cashier, always with a great big WOMENS or MENS sign attached to it so you wouldn't forget and put it in your pocket? Or when it cost a quarter to use the toilet in thruway bathrooms (they finally made that illegal).No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in. Before a purchase. Did they decide that part of the story didn't happen, or does it not matter anymore why the waitress asked them to leave after they gave her lip for not giving them the code?It's bad enough that just about every liberal in America is flat-out bonkers on just about everything, especially race. But one would hope that a top cop of a major American city would have common sense, and a responsibility to THE LAW, rather than what makes mouthy blacks in Black Lives Matter feel good.
Unfortunately, the top cop of Phildelphia has gone from taking a correct position (that his cops enforced the law properly), to caving in to political pressure of some looney tunes, who turn everything where black people are involved, into a racial incident.
The Starbucks arrests of 2 black guys trespassing and inerfering with the operation of a business, were done as they should be. The 2 thugs arrested, had no right to sit in the restaurant and occupy 2 seats needed by paying customers, when they weren't buying anything, and were asked to leave. They had no right to refuse to leave.
This isn't a civil rights case, it's a simple matter of LAW, which the police chief was right about originally, and then curiously, changed his position and denounced the arrests. Bad decision on his part. It's unfair to Starbucks, unfair to the cops who made the arrests, unfair to Starbucks paying customers who need a place to sit, and unfair to everyone in Philadelphia who is entitled to lawful policing.
Generally, in cases like this (where things get done to favor blacks, regardless of the law), there's a Democrat mayor behind it all. Ordinarily, this Democrat mayor (Jim Kenney) will get zero publicity, leftist media won't say a word about him, and the whole incident will be portrayed as something about discriminating against blacks.
So add one more item to the list of lawbreakers being allowed to block traffic in Democrat mayor cities, thugs being allowed to chase and attack people going to Trump rallies, rioters burning and looting, more rioters throwing rocks at cops, etc etc.
Few things could be more obvious a reason to vote for Republicans in city official elections, governors, and other political offices. Liberals often hold signs reading "The Whole World Is Watching". Well, yes it is. And people around the world must (correctly) deduce that America is a nation gone mad, when it comes to derailed law enforcement in Democrat-ruled jurisdictions.
A code to get in the bathroom?
That they need a code for the bathroom tells me they obviously had a real problem with loitering.
In any city, I assume that's a problem. Do you remember when gas station bathrooms had outside doors and you had to go request the key from the cashier, always with a great big WOMENS or MENS sign attached to it so you wouldn't forget and put it in your pocket? Or when it cost a quarter to use the toilet in thruway bathrooms (they finally made that illegal).No one is mentioning, anymore, that the guys asked for the code to the bathroom as soon as they came in. Before a purchase. Did they decide that part of the story didn't happen, or does it not matter anymore why the waitress asked them to leave after they gave her lip for not giving them the code?It's bad enough that just about every liberal in America is flat-out bonkers on just about everything, especially race. But one would hope that a top cop of a major American city would have common sense, and a responsibility to THE LAW, rather than what makes mouthy blacks in Black Lives Matter feel good.
Unfortunately, the top cop of Phildelphia has gone from taking a correct position (that his cops enforced the law properly), to caving in to political pressure of some looney tunes, who turn everything where black people are involved, into a racial incident.
The Starbucks arrests of 2 black guys trespassing and inerfering with the operation of a business, were done as they should be. The 2 thugs arrested, had no right to sit in the restaurant and occupy 2 seats needed by paying customers, when they weren't buying anything, and were asked to leave. They had no right to refuse to leave.
This isn't a civil rights case, it's a simple matter of LAW, which the police chief was right about originally, and then curiously, changed his position and denounced the arrests. Bad decision on his part. It's unfair to Starbucks, unfair to the cops who made the arrests, unfair to Starbucks paying customers who need a place to sit, and unfair to everyone in Philadelphia who is entitled to lawful policing.
Generally, in cases like this (where things get done to favor blacks, regardless of the law), there's a Democrat mayor behind it all. Ordinarily, this Democrat mayor (Jim Kenney) will get zero publicity, leftist media won't say a word about him, and the whole incident will be portrayed as something about discriminating against blacks.
So add one more item to the list of lawbreakers being allowed to block traffic in Democrat mayor cities, thugs being allowed to chase and attack people going to Trump rallies, rioters burning and looting, more rioters throwing rocks at cops, etc etc.
Few things could be more obvious a reason to vote for Republicans in city official elections, governors, and other political offices. Liberals often hold signs reading "The Whole World Is Watching". Well, yes it is. And people around the world must (correctly) deduce that America is a nation gone mad, when it comes to derailed law enforcement in Democrat-ruled jurisdictions.
A code to get in the bathroom?
That they need a code for the bathroom tells me they obviously had a real problem with loitering.
Most gas stations with bathrooms now are inside, so they can be monitored.
Lots of homeless, lots of addicts. Lots of slobs that do nasty shit you don't want to know about.
What I'm thinking is, if you are a Starbucks regular, you probably already know the code, am I right? Or the buddy you're meeting with does. Unless Starbucks changes the code every day.
