Glenn Beck

[Mr.Fitnah]

lol

About 20 minutes ago, he was saying that anarchists are far rightwingers.

Someone needs to inform him he's got the chart backwards.

Recall that the terms 'left-' and 'right-wing' came from the French Revolution. Those who sat on the left thought the revolution and its destruction of the aristocratic oligarchy hadn't gone far enough. those on the right thought it had gone too far and sought to restore the old system, in which the minority ruling class held all the power.

Anarchists seek to destroy all classes, all systems of governance, and all rule of men over men. Hence, they are as far left as you get. Anarchists are the libertarians or liberals n^th degree.

There are two things to measure.

On the far left, there is no governance. On the far right, there is dictatorship- all power in one persons' hands. This is the true problem with 'big government'- it's not the 'size' of the government or how many federal employees work for the People instead of for persons, it's the concentration of power and the domination of one class by another.

Communism is slightly to the right, occupying a broad part of the spectrum, depending on what form it takes. Monarchy is on the far Right (in the French Revolution, those who would have restored the old status quo ante and restore the old days of a powerful Crown over even the aristocracy would be just outside the picture standing in the far right wing).


Now, Mister Beck... you were talking about needing to understand history?

Here is a bit of Beck political spectrum
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKSChPJWHYM]YouTube - Americas hidden history 3[/ame]

 

[Avatar4321]

I was listening to GB misdefining progressivism today. He seems to have all the sophistication and nuance of Megan McCain in understanding our political world here in the US.

Really? I saw the same episode and he was much more articulate than Ms. McCain ever was.

So what exactly is progressivism, oh brilliant one?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

As though PBS and NPR "news" is of any better reliability than the swill we get from the for-profit sources.

The PBS and NPR product is far superior to that of the for-profit outlets.

If they were really superior, they wouldn't have to be supported by the Public through our taxes.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

I see gautama has conveniently dissapeared. I guess I win the internets today.

Gee first you liberals make fun of Trig Palin and now any person with Down Syndrome.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

actually, it gets replaced by a pure democracy

How'd that "pure democracy" work out for those 25 million Ukrainians under Stalin?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I was listening to GB misdefining progressivism today. He seems to have all the sophistication and nuance of Megan McCain in understanding our political world here in the US.

Really? I saw the same episode and he was much more articulate than Ms. McCain ever was.

So what exactly is progressivism, oh brilliant one?

Let's start here

n the United States, the Progressive Party of 1912 was a political party created by a split in the Republican Party in the presidential election of 1912. It was formed by Theodore Roosevelt when he lost the Republican nomination to the incumbent President William Howard Taft and pulled his delegates out of the convention. The party is colloquially also known as the Bull Moose Party, after the party's emblem and after Roosevelt's boast that he was "as strong as a bull moose".

"To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day." - 1912 Progressive Party Platform, attributed to Theodore Roosevelt[1] and quoted again in his autobiography[2] where he connects Trusts and monopolies (sugar interests, Standard Oil, etc.) to Woodrow Wilson and William Howard Taft, and consequently both major political parties.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I see gautama has conveniently dissapeared. I guess I win the internets today.

Gee first you liberals make fun of Trig Palin and now any person with Down Syndrome.

Who the fuck is trig palin?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

actually, it gets replaced by a pure democracy

How'd that "pure democracy" work out for those 25 million Ukrainians under Stalin?

Funny, I don't remember the people ever voting on every decision made in the CCCP during Stalin's reign.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Fat Pig (you sure look like one):

The irrefutable FACT that Glenn Beck is "spot on" is that he has an open challenge for ANYONE in the Marxist Obami Salami Adm in the form of a RED PHONE on every one of his shows whereupon ANYONE of those Obami Salami turds he CONSTANTLY criticizes are invited to come on his show, and/or refute by said phone, A SINGLE one of the PLETHORA of accusations, substantiated by NUMEROUS FACTUAL EVIDENCE.

In spite of the fact that Glenn dismissed as nonsensical the inane question of whether he checked his facts or not...... not ONE pro MARXIST Obami Salami puke had the stones to challenge him.

But, what is even more significant is that you MARXIST Obami Salami robots are getting as hysterical about him as you are about the OUTSTANDING AMERICAN PATRIOT: Sarah Palin.

"Irrefutable fact"? What is this guy giving you to drink?? To evereyone with an open mind, don't drink the kool-aid!

OK, seriously, if you think someone from the Obama administration is gonna to call Beck to call him out on his "facts" you are just an idiot. And this 'NUMEROUS FACTUAL EVIDENCE' he and you are spouting is where?? You still haven't given any, becuase you have no clue what you are talking about. At least Rush gives articles and some back-up, but Beck is just a loudmouth, who talks abou his feelings to make a moron like you warm and fuzzy inside.

And another thing, what makes Sarah Palin such and outstanding American patriot? She graduated from University of Idaho after 6 years??

Your really funny, keep responding becuase this is giving me a great laugh at work on a Friday.

Sincerely,
Fat Pig

Stupid Fat Pig,

You're a STUPID Fat Pig that turned out to be a meaningless puker.

Apparently you never watched Glenn Beck's performances where he documents each and every one of his assertions.

Answer your question by watching his shows, you STUPID Fat Pig.

Try to fathom this, you STUPID Fat Pig: I think that even a
STUPID Fat Pig like you would agree that the LIEbtard's hatred of Sarah Palin is at least SOMEWHAT similar to that being generated against Glenn Beck.....and growing at a palpable rate.

Yet, where these despicable LIEbtards found SPECIFIC FAULTS re Sarah......and let's put aside the fact that these were MANUFACTURED EXAGGERATIONS, or PRETZEL like twisted 1/2-Truths, or contemptible attacks on Sarah's family: daughters, downe-syndrome child, etc.......THE DESPICABLE LIEbtards picked every SLIGHT fault, "supposed"as they might've been...... and DESTROYED Sarah Palin during the Presidential Campaign.

Parenthetically, it needs to be said that ALL THIS PHONEY 24/7 LIEB Controlled National Media's (and their Hollywierdo allies) CALUMNY has backfired MUCHO GRANDE and is making Sarah Palin the Darling of America and a Bright anti-LIEB Star to be reckoned with in the future.

My point is this: IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE 24/7 LIEB-CONTROLLED NATIONAL MEDIA (and their Hollywierdo allies) would have at least ATTEMPTED to ANNIHILATE their LATEST BUGABOO: Glenn Beck.

BUT THE FACT IS THEY CAN'T.

ONE WOULD THINK THAT WITH THE HOURS, and HOURS, ....DAYS, and DAYS.......WEEKS and WEEKS....MONTHS, and MONTHS .....of Glenn Beck's PLETHORA of Anti-Lieb assertions.......IF ANY ONE OF HIS PLETHORA OF ASSERTIONS WERE WRONG.......THEY WOULD BE FRONT PAGE NEWS IN ALL THE 24/7 LIEB-CONTROLLED NATIONAL MEDIA OUTLETS !!!!

But......the LIEbtards HAVE ZILCHO on Glenn Beck.

The VERY WORST THAT THESE LIEbtard TURDS can come up with is: Glenn Beck dismissed the "Fact Check" question with a "No" remark that showed his disdain for the idiotic quality of that question.

I find your remark that denigrates Sarah's PATRIOTISM more idiotic than offensive. Using some form of twisted logic verging on a non sequitur you somehow connect Sarah's PATRIOTISM to Sarah's 6 year Univ of Idaho graduation ????? WTF ????? Do you think everyone has the money to go to college ? And what about a myriad of other reasons
???? Huh ???? STUPID Fat Pig.....HUH ?????

In conclusion, I may have butchered you a tad unkindly ...... but, on the other hand .....you ARE a STUPID Fat Pig.

You don't deserve any better.

Besides, your posts are farts.

Smelly farts from a STUPID Fat Pig.

Being new here, I don't know you or why you are so angry with your fellow posters. With that said, you really should take a break from USMB friend, you're about as worse as Potter 58 is with the insults he hurls at anyone or anything even remotely conservative. Both of you are embarrassments to the "sides" you argue on behalf.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Will people stop quoting qautama?!

 

[AvgGuyIA]

actually, it gets replaced by a pure democracy

How'd that "pure democracy" work out for those 25 million Ukrainians under Stalin?

Funny, I don't remember the people ever voting on every decision made in the CCCP during Stalin's reign.

Oh...so Stalin was just on the way to Marx's "pure democracy"? I wonder how many Americans will have to die before Progressives get us to that "pure democracy" stage you all seem to be seeking.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Oh...so Stalin was just on the way to Marx's "pure democracy"?

You are aware that mainstream Marxists (and everybody else) condemned both Lenin and Stalin as tyrants, right?

I wonder how many Americans will have to die before Progressives get us to that "pure democracy" stage you all seem to be seeking. __________________

Are you high? Do cite anywhere I supported large-scale direct democracy.

 

[Titanic Sailor]

boring thread, adios.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

GBDS

Is that George Bush Derangement Syndrome or Glenn Beck Derangement Syndrome.

Either one is pretty pathetic.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Oh...so Stalin was just on the way to Marx's "pure democracy"?

You are aware that mainstream Marxists (and everybody else) condemned both Lenin and Stalin as tyrants, right?

I wonder how many Americans will have to die before Progressives get us to that "pure democracy" stage you all seem to be seeking. __________________

Are you high? Do cite anywhere I supported large-scale direct democracy.

Item 1: They "denounced" him for public consumption, yes.

Item 2: So how far Left on the steps of Progressive-ism are you wanting to take us? I'm new here, so I honestly don't know much about you. I'm assuming choosing Lenin as an avatar means he's your hero and your name here means you identify with Marx's beloved lower class laborers. With that, why wouldn't you want a pure democracy or is Stalin perhaps your secret hero?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Oh...so Stalin was just on the way to Marx's "pure democracy"?

You are aware that mainstream Marxists (and everybody else) condemned both Lenin and Stalin as tyrants, right?

I wonder how many Americans will have to die before Progressives get us to that "pure democracy" stage you all seem to be seeking. __________________

Are you high? Do cite anywhere I supported large-scale direct democracy.

Comrade Stalin—Leader of Progressive Mankind

Source: “Pravda Articles”, On the Occasion of the 70th Birthday of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin, December 21, 1949
Publisher: Soviet News, London, 1950
Transcription/HTML Markup: Brian Reid
Public Domain: Marxists Internet Archive (2008). You may freely copy, distribute, display and perform this work; as well as make derivative and commercial works. Please credit “Marxists Internet Archive” as your source.

A QUARTER of a century ago Comrade Stalin gave an oath on behalf of the Party to fulfil with credit the behests of Lenin. Comrade Stalin’s oath resounded as a fighting call to the Party, to the working class, to the Soviet people, and was a lode-star in the historic struggle to refashion social life, the struggle for the construction of Socialist society.

Comrade Stalin led our Party and the Soviet people along Lenin’s road. He upheld and developed Lenin’s theory on the possibility of the victory of Socialism in one country. Putting Lenin’s behests into practice, our Party under the leadership of Comrade Stalin, secured the Socialist industrialisation of the country and the collectivisation of agriculture, converting the Soviet Union into a great industrial and collective farm Socialist Power.

Comrade Stalin, as nobody else, profoundly understood Lenin’s inspired ideas on the Marxist Party of a new type, upheld the purity of the Marx-Engels-Lenin teaching, developed the Marxist-Leninist theory, steeled the Party in the struggle against numerous enemies, and forged and trains cadres capable of furthering the cause of our Party.
Comrade Stalin - Leader of Progressive Mankind

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Item 1: They "denounced" him for public consumption, yes.

Item 2: So how far Left on the steps of Progressive-ism are you wanting to take us?

In brief

I'm new here, so I honestly don't know much about you. I'm assuming choosing Lenin as an avatar means he's your hero

No.

First thing to understand about me is my user title:

Iconoclast (image-breaker):
Adjective


Noun

S: (n) iconoclast, image breaker (a destroyer of images used in religious worship)

S: (adj) iconoclastic (characterized by attack on established beliefs or institutions)

and your name here means you identify with Marx's beloved lower class laborers

I own no farms. I own no factories. I own no means of production other than my body. My labour and my services are my only marketable resource. Using the two-class model most common with Marxian lexicon (though I personally feel there are four classes) I am, by definition, a proletarian.

Direct democracy works only with the smallest of homogeneous populations.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Working class hero bullshit artist .OK got it..

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Beck? I really don't get him... I find him very entertaining, yet, I can't figure out if he really believes his own schtick.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjfdfDHjWQ]YouTube - Glenn Beck's FEMA Backflip[/ame]