Favoring party over country

[Barb]

Yeah like the Walmart family and Enron ceos or maybe BP and UBS employees like Phil gramm

I said credited.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

cred·it (krdt)
n.
1. Belief or confidence in the truth of something. See Synonyms at belief.
2. A reputation for sound character or quality; standing: It is to their credit that they worked so hard without complaining.
3. A source of honor or distinction: This exceptional athlete is a credit to our team.
4. Recognition or approval for an act, ability, or quality: gave them credit for a job well done.
5. Influence based on the good opinion or confidence of others.
6. An acknowledgment of work done, as in the production of a motion picture or publication. Often used in the plural: At the end of the film we stayed to watch the credits.
7.
a. Official certification or recognition that a student has successfully completed a course of study: He received full credit for his studies at a previous school.
b. A unit of study so certified: This course carries three credits.
8. Reputation for solvency and integrity entitling a person to be trusted in buying or borrowing: You should have no trouble getting the loan if your credit is good.
9.
a. An arrangement for deferred payment of a loan or purchase: a store that offers credit; bought my stereo on credit.
b. The terms governing such an arrangement: low prices and easy credit.
c. The time allowed for deferred payment: an automatic 30-day credit on all orders.
10. Accounting
a. The deduction of a payment made by a debtor from an amount due.
b. The right-hand side of an account on which such amounts are entered.
c. An entry or the sum of the entries on this side.
d. The positive balance or amount remaining in a person's account.
e. A credit line.
tr.v. cred·it·ed, cred·it·ing, cred·its
1. To believe in; trust: "She refused steadfastly to credit the reports of his death" (Agatha Christie).
2.
a. To regard as having performed an action or being endowed with a quality: had to credit them with good intentions.
b. To ascribe to a person; attribute: credit the invention to him. See Synonyms at attribute.
3. Accounting
a. To enter as a credit: credited $500 to her account.
b. To make a credit entry in: credit an account.
4. To give or award an educational credit to.
5. Archaic To bring honor or distinction to.

credited - definition of credited by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Or creditable.
A reliable or trustworthy source.
The FUCK Truthmatters?
Not ALL businesspeople are scumbags. Many, granted, most, arguable, but ALL? That road leads to insanity.
I disagree that government should be run as a business. Government and business have many very opposing goals.That said, a good and honest businessperson pressed into government service would have some problem solving skills unique to his or her experiences, and those skills should not be undervalued.

 

[saveliberty]

I often wonder about this when it comes to administrations that are particularly polarizing. This one and the last one especially.

It seems to me that opponents of Obama desperately want to see him fail, to have our country fall deeper into recession/depression, and lose ground in the middle east (the higher the US military death toll the better), all for the sake of acquiring political advantage entering into the next election cycle. And conversely, I saw the exact same sentiment spewing from the other side of the aisle during the Bush administration.

As much as this disgusts me, sentiment is one thing, actively trying to make it happen is another. So please consider and discuss the following:

1. Do you think that people in positions of real influence do indeed, actively try to sabotage and undermine the efforts of the current administration to the detriment of all Americans purely for political purposes?

and if so...

2. Who are they and what specifically do you think they do in their efforts to sabotage?

1) Yes I do and I find that to be abhorrent behavior. Do I want Obama's policy initiatives such as health care, cap and trade, not suspending the jones act to clean up the oil, trying to ban all drilling, ruining our alliance with england/israel, and bailing out big corporations with tax money to fail? Well of coarse I do. If those policies fail I feel it will be for the betterment of america. If those policies succeed I feel it will hurt my country and my fellow citizens.

2) Im not sure of any one in particular person that is doing this in order to "hurt america". Do you have anyone who you feel is doing this? maybe if you share one person it will give me a direction to put my thinking towards for you.


I dont want my president or my country to fail. I just want his fundamentally tranforming america policies to not be implimented.

You don't want America or our President to fail, just as long as he follows YOUR prescription...

So, the election and the will of We, the People is totally meaningless to you...ALL that matters is YOUR ideology and YOUR political beliefs. If our President's prescriptions FIX the problems, that is also totally meaningless to you...

"We the People", are not in favor of the job Obama is doing according to recent polls. Fix the problems? Wrong. He is a problem first off, then he has fixed nothing so far and he couldn't even fix his own Senate seat.

 

[Truthmatters]

Alice is in wonderland NO?

Can I ref today's smackdown?

I'm not even going to bother pointing out that she has been proven to either be extremely ignorant or a liar. It has been pointed out in another thread very recently and she is just not worth the effort.

She just can't get it through her thick skull that allegations are not proof.

Immie

Heres your problem Immie, you claim they are in the ACORN case yet when the court produces Republican documents which prove beyond a doubt that they republcians where conspriing to keep Americans from voting with illegal means you pretend its merely an allegation.

That is how clearly you are one who puts party over country at the drop of a hat.

 

[Claudette]

There is a big difference between wanting him to fail and simply understanding that the policies cannot succeed. Let me explain.

Afghanistan: We will not create a national government in a country that has for generations been tribal and divided by religion.

Healthcare: No federal health program of this scale has EVER saved money or delivered better service. This one barely shows a projected savings even with skewed inputs to the CBO.

Jobs: Until small businesses can breathe again, jobs are going to be hard to find. Obama's policies in this area only make things worse.

I don't want him to fail, I want him to see the light or leave office soon.

Ditto.

 

[WillowTree]

Here we go again.

Immie

Alice is in wonderland NO?

Can I ref today's smackdown?

It's the dog days of summer. just go with the acutal truth and ignore idiots who call themselves truthmatters. truth is the black panthers are the only ones engaging in voter intimidation but since they intimidate whites it's of no consequence to our black AG. Next?

 

[Truthmatters]

I said credited.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

cred·it (krdt)
n.
1. Belief or confidence in the truth of something. See Synonyms at belief.
2. A reputation for sound character or quality; standing: It is to their credit that they worked so hard without complaining.
3. A source of honor or distinction: This exceptional athlete is a credit to our team.
4. Recognition or approval for an act, ability, or quality: gave them credit for a job well done.
5. Influence based on the good opinion or confidence of others.
6. An acknowledgment of work done, as in the production of a motion picture or publication. Often used in the plural: At the end of the film we stayed to watch the credits.
7.
a. Official certification or recognition that a student has successfully completed a course of study: He received full credit for his studies at a previous school.
b. A unit of study so certified: This course carries three credits.
8. Reputation for solvency and integrity entitling a person to be trusted in buying or borrowing: You should have no trouble getting the loan if your credit is good.
9.
a. An arrangement for deferred payment of a loan or purchase: a store that offers credit; bought my stereo on credit.
b. The terms governing such an arrangement: low prices and easy credit.
c. The time allowed for deferred payment: an automatic 30-day credit on all orders.
10. Accounting
a. The deduction of a payment made by a debtor from an amount due.
b. The right-hand side of an account on which such amounts are entered.
c. An entry or the sum of the entries on this side.
d. The positive balance or amount remaining in a person's account.
e. A credit line.
tr.v. cred·it·ed, cred·it·ing, cred·its
1. To believe in; trust: "She refused steadfastly to credit the reports of his death" (Agatha Christie).
2.
a. To regard as having performed an action or being endowed with a quality: had to credit them with good intentions.
b. To ascribe to a person; attribute: credit the invention to him. See Synonyms at attribute.
3. Accounting
a. To enter as a credit: credited $500 to her account.
b. To make a credit entry in: credit an account.
4. To give or award an educational credit to.
5. Archaic To bring honor or distinction to.

credited - definition of credited by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Or creditable.
A reliable or trustworthy source.
The FUCK Truthmatters?
Not ALL businesspeople are scumbags. Many, granted, most, arguable, but ALL? That road leads to insanity.
I disagree that government should be run as a business. Government and business have many very opposing goals.That said, a good and honest businessperson pressed into government service would have some problem solving skills unique to his or her experiences, and those skills should not be undervalued.

Most Americans do not run their own business, why should they have a business owner act on theoir behalf in congress?

 

[AquaAthena]

Wow, so now this is something new, they WANT the Obama to FAIL.

Just to clarify, I didn't mean to imply that ALL opponents of Obama want him to fail.

However, based on the vitriol I've seen oozing from your posts, I'd definitely include you among those that do.

Just sayin...

say whatever you like, I definitely want the OBAMA'S and his comrades in Arms policies to FAIL. If I wanted to live in a Socialist-Communist country, I'd move to one.

YES, I want him to fail! He is the face of his socialist policies and wants to see us in slavery to his global ambitions.

 

[Truthmatters]

There is a big difference between wanting him to fail and simply understanding that the policies cannot succeed. Let me explain.

Afghanistan: We will not create a national government in a country that has for generations been tribal and divided by religion.

Healthcare: No federal health program of this scale has EVER saved money or delivered better service. This one barely shows a projected savings even with skewed inputs to the CBO.

Jobs: Until small businesses can breathe again, jobs are going to be hard to find. Obama's policies in this area only make things worse.

I don't want him to fail, I want him to see the light or leave office soon.

Ditto.

Then why did you not see this when Bush was fucking EVERYTHING up and we told you it would fuck eveything up?

 

[Truthmatters]

Just to clarify, I didn't mean to imply that ALL opponents of Obama want him to fail.

However, based on the vitriol I've seen oozing from your posts, I'd definitely include you among those that do.

Just sayin...

say whatever you like, I definitely want the OBAMA'S and his comrades in Arms policies to FAIL. If I wanted to live in a Socialist-Communist country, I'd move to one.

YES, I want him to fail! He is the face of his socialist policies and wants to see us in slavery to his global ambitions.

You are a lying sack of shit probably also thinks republicans cheating in elections is just fine too.

 

[Stephanie]

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

cred·it (krdt)
n.
1. Belief or confidence in the truth of something. See Synonyms at belief.
2. A reputation for sound character or quality; standing: It is to their credit that they worked so hard without complaining.
3. A source of honor or distinction: This exceptional athlete is a credit to our team.
4. Recognition or approval for an act, ability, or quality: gave them credit for a job well done.
5. Influence based on the good opinion or confidence of others.
6. An acknowledgment of work done, as in the production of a motion picture or publication. Often used in the plural: At the end of the film we stayed to watch the credits.
7.
a. Official certification or recognition that a student has successfully completed a course of study: He received full credit for his studies at a previous school.
b. A unit of study so certified: This course carries three credits.
8. Reputation for solvency and integrity entitling a person to be trusted in buying or borrowing: You should have no trouble getting the loan if your credit is good.
9.
a. An arrangement for deferred payment of a loan or purchase: a store that offers credit; bought my stereo on credit.
b. The terms governing such an arrangement: low prices and easy credit.
c. The time allowed for deferred payment: an automatic 30-day credit on all orders.
10. Accounting
a. The deduction of a payment made by a debtor from an amount due.
b. The right-hand side of an account on which such amounts are entered.
c. An entry or the sum of the entries on this side.
d. The positive balance or amount remaining in a person's account.
e. A credit line.
tr.v. cred·it·ed, cred·it·ing, cred·its
1. To believe in; trust: "She refused steadfastly to credit the reports of his death" (Agatha Christie).
2.
a. To regard as having performed an action or being endowed with a quality: had to credit them with good intentions.
b. To ascribe to a person; attribute: credit the invention to him. See Synonyms at attribute.
3. Accounting
a. To enter as a credit: credited $500 to her account.
b. To make a credit entry in: credit an account.
4. To give or award an educational credit to.
5. Archaic To bring honor or distinction to.

credited - definition of credited by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Or creditable.
A reliable or trustworthy source.
The FUCK Truthmatters?
Not ALL businesspeople are scumbags. Many, granted, most, arguable, but ALL? That road leads to insanity.
I disagree that government should be run as a business. Government and business have many very opposing goals.That said, a good and honest businessperson pressed into government service would have some problem solving skills unique to his or her experiences, and those skills should not be undervalued.

Most Americans do not run their own business, why should they have a business owner act on theoir behalf in congress?

 

[Truthmatters]

You seem to think Americans dont pick people to represent them in a election?

How would a business man be better at representing workers in congress?

 

[Claudette]

There is a big difference between wanting him to fail and simply understanding that the policies cannot succeed. Let me explain.

Afghanistan: We will not create a national government in a country that has for generations been tribal and divided by religion.

Healthcare: No federal health program of this scale has EVER saved money or delivered better service. This one barely shows a projected savings even with skewed inputs to the CBO.

Jobs: Until small businesses can breathe again, jobs are going to be hard to find. Obama's policies in this area only make things worse.

I don't want him to fail, I want him to see the light or leave office soon.

Ditto.

Seriously. If BO applied himself to job creation and the economy as much as he does his fucking lefty looney agenda I would like him a lot more.

He wasted 18 months on HC when he should have been addressing himself to jobs, jobs, jobs and the economy. He let his agenda interrfer with what he should have been concentrating on. He definetly put party over country in my book.

 

[Immanuel]

Immie you know better.

The court documents dont lie.

1) Go start your own thread and quit trying to derail every damned thread you enter with your lies.

2) Are you really so ignorant that you believe that an allegation is fact or are you just a liar? The pussies at the DNC can make claim after claim after claim after claim and they all go into court documents. That does not make them fact. In the meantime, you defend the New Black Panthers who in front of your very eyes attempted to intimidate voters in Philadelphia. You are pathetic.

I'm not going to continue to discuss this with you in this thread. Go make your own thread and please do not continue to derail this one.

Immie

 

[froggy]

You seem to think Americans dont pick people to represent them in a election?

How would a business man be better at representing workers in congress?

They would be thinking of making America prosper more than getting a party vote.

 

[xotoxi]

I hope that Tom Brady fractures his leg this season and that the Pats finish in last place so that they will get the first pick overall in the draft and then win the SB in 2012!

 

[Truthmatters]

Bullshit.

They are people and are not MORE MORAL becausse they run a business.

 

[Claudette]

LMAO You tell er Immie.

Jeeze. Mayby TM will catch a clue and shut the fuck up. Jeeze.

 

[saveliberty]

say whatever you like, I definitely want the OBAMA'S and his comrades in Arms policies to FAIL. If I wanted to live in a Socialist-Communist country, I'd move to one.

YES, I want him to fail! He is the face of his socialist policies and wants to see us in slavery to his global ambitions.

You are a lying sack of shit probably also thinks republicans cheating in elections is just fine too.

Illegal move and a miss. One point deduction. Resume bout.

 

[WillowTree]

Immie you know better.

The court documents dont lie.

1) Go start your own thread and quit trying to derail every damned thread you enter with your lies.

2) Are you really so ignorant that you believe that an allegation is fact or are you just a liar? The pussies at the DNC can make claim after claim after claim after claim and they all go into court documents. That does not make them fact. In the meantime, you defend the New Black Panthers who in front of your very eyes attempted to intimidate voters in Philadelphia. You are pathetic.

I'm not going to continue to discuss this with you in this thread. Go make your own thread and please do not continue to derail this one.

Immie

you noticed that too, she walks in and takes a dump on every thread. It's called shit stirring or trolling or whatever the hell you want to call it.

 

[Truthmatters]

You people are putting party over country right now to defend the republicans stealing elections by cheating.

Its what the thread is all about