Dear Media - We Don't Care about Khashoggi

[pismoe]

Saudi 'king' is over in 'saudi' and not ruling in the USA . 'kashoogi' is said to be 'muslim brotherhood' and friends with dead 'osama' . Neither one were or are my or the Western worlds friend Camp .

Some people believe the American values and principle of America since it's establishment are important and rejecting them now are leading to the decline and demise of America. Lie with rhe dogs and you get fleas. Associate with criminals and you become a criminal. A blind eye or turned head and ignoring evil does not stop one from being evil also. Accepting evil is being evil.

-------------------------------- 'kashoogi' as 'muslim brotherhood' [a designated terrorist org] and 'kashoogi' as a friend of 'osama' are said to be evil . And 'kashoogis' death process is not even fully known as far as i am aware although rumors exist . Besides that , the whole situation is up to President Trump Camp .

 

[Camp]

Saudi 'king' is over in 'saudi' and not ruling in the USA . 'kashoogi' is said to be 'muslim brotherhood' and friends with dead 'osama' . Neither one were or are my or the Western worlds friend Camp .

Some people believe the American values and principle of America since it's establishment are important and rejecting them now are leading to the decline and demise of America. Lie with rhe dogs and you get fleas. Associate with criminals and you become a criminal. A blind eye or turned head and ignoring evil does not stop one from being evil also. Accepting evil is being evil.

-------------------------------- 'kashoogi' as 'muslim brotherhood' [a designated terrorist org] and 'kashoogi' as a friend of 'osama' are said to be evil . And 'kashoogis' death process is not even fully known as far as i am aware although rumors exist . Besides that , the whole situation is up to President Trump Camp .

Sorry, I have not given up my rights and obligations as an American to Donald Trump like some kind of feeble cult follower. Not saying you are a feeble cult follower, but you have no fair expectation that I should or must be one.

 

[miketx]

Khashoggi has nothing to do with my job, health care, taxes, home, America's crime rate, economy or elections. It's a tragedy, but it pales to the issues American citizens care about - So I have to really wonder, dear media - WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO NEXT?

How long before you gin up a plan to BLAME TRUMP for the death of Khashoggi? We have already witnessed Democrat wingnuts insinuating the Jared Kushner had a "hit list" with Kash's name on it. Really?? (no, this has NOT been even remotely verified). So - WHY IS THE MEDIA KEEPING THIS STORY ALIVE? AMERICANS DO NOT CARE.

Mark my words - the media is going to do to turn Khashoggi into Trump's crime somehow, and it won't be just another strike, it will become a major issue. It will all be a lie, but something is going to break - or else this story would have gone away already.

“There is a cult of Ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -- Isaac Asimov

And they all come from libtard infested schools.

 

[Pogo]

You just completely torpedoed your own topic in a desperate lunge to change it to something else.
Way to stand behind your post

Politics is not a debating society. It is facts and beliefs. I didn't scuttle what I believe, I amplified my thoughts. It is people like you, who see politics as a beauty contest where a "best answer" and "Miss congeniality" award wins the day who have brought governance to its knees in this country.

Liberals actually believe they can win an election by sowing enough hatred against the so-called "racist" conservatives and Trump himself because they have the media on their side. But you don't see the big picture, that Trump is not a slick Obama - he is a down & dirty fighter who is actually getting a lot of things done. We may not like his manner, but we believe he knows how to negotiate and manage and that is all that counts to us. Better a "clown" for a President who actually gets the job done, than a media hack (Obama) that screws up everything and hides behinds the media's magic curtain to avoid telling people the truth about how awful he was as a President.

This post is about the lying media - that is my only point.

You're still running away from your own point.

With a cursory glance I do agree with the characterization "dirty" but that's moot here, as Rump is not Khashoggi, which was your original point from which you're distancing yourself with this bizzaro obsessed poll whining about how it's got something to do with Rump. It doesn't.

 

[Pogo]

Khashoggi has nothing to do with my job, health care, taxes, home, America's crime rate, economy or elections. It's a tragedy, but it pales to the issues American citizens care about - So I have to really wonder, dear media - WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO NEXT?

How long before you gin up a plan to BLAME TRUMP for the death of Khashoggi? We have already witnessed Democrat wingnuts insinuating the Jared Kushner had a "hit list" with Kash's name on it. Really?? (no, this has NOT been even remotely verified). So - WHY IS THE MEDIA KEEPING THIS STORY ALIVE? AMERICANS DO NOT CARE.

Mark my words - the media is going to do to turn Khashoggi into Trump's crime somehow, and it won't be just another strike, it will become a major issue. It will all be a lie, but something is going to break - or else this story would have gone away already.

“There is a cult of Ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -- Isaac Asimov

Isaac Asimov was Russian. He believed in many things that were counter to American culture. Many people who are born overseas and immigrate here learn to appreciate this country, unless you're on college campuses most of your life. Reality isn't big there.

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

 

[mudwhistle]

Khashoggi has nothing to do with my job, health care, taxes, home, America's crime rate, economy or elections. It's a tragedy, but it pales to the issues American citizens care about - So I have to really wonder, dear media - WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO NEXT?

How long before you gin up a plan to BLAME TRUMP for the death of Khashoggi? We have already witnessed Democrat wingnuts insinuating the Jared Kushner had a "hit list" with Kash's name on it. Really?? (no, this has NOT been even remotely verified). So - WHY IS THE MEDIA KEEPING THIS STORY ALIVE? AMERICANS DO NOT CARE.

Mark my words - the media is going to do to turn Khashoggi into Trump's crime somehow, and it won't be just another strike, it will become a major issue. It will all be a lie, but something is going to break - or else this story would have gone away already.

“There is a cult of Ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -- Isaac Asimov

Isaac Asimov was Russian. He believed in many things that were counter to American culture. Many people who are born overseas and immigrate here learn to appreciate this country, unless you're on college campuses most of your life. Reality isn't big there.

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?
That his family didn't influence his life one iota?
The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?
Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

 

[Pogo]

Khashoggi has nothing to do with my job, health care, taxes, home, America's crime rate, economy or elections. It's a tragedy, but it pales to the issues American citizens care about - So I have to really wonder, dear media - WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO NEXT?

How long before you gin up a plan to BLAME TRUMP for the death of Khashoggi? We have already witnessed Democrat wingnuts insinuating the Jared Kushner had a "hit list" with Kash's name on it. Really?? (no, this has NOT been even remotely verified). So - WHY IS THE MEDIA KEEPING THIS STORY ALIVE? AMERICANS DO NOT CARE.

Mark my words - the media is going to do to turn Khashoggi into Trump's crime somehow, and it won't be just another strike, it will become a major issue. It will all be a lie, but something is going to break - or else this story would have gone away already.

“There is a cult of Ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -- Isaac Asimov

Isaac Asimov was Russian. He believed in many things that were counter to American culture. Many people who are born overseas and immigrate here learn to appreciate this country, unless you're on college campuses most of your life. Reality isn't big there.

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?

Nope, sure doesn't. He made it through birth didn't he?

Carmen Miranda was born in Europe.
Steve Martin was born in Texas.
John Hartford was born in New York City.
Bob Hope was born in the UK.
John McCain was born in Panama.
George Romney was born in Mexico.
George Orwell was born in India.

etc etc etc etc etc

That his family didn't influence his life one iota?

I'm sure they did, many iotae, as do all families. That's why he never spoke Russian and it's also why they got out of there in 1923.

Fun fact related to nothing: when Asimov was born Woodrow Wilson still had troops in his country.

The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?

At age three?
Are you clinically insane?

Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

That's true. It's a place called a cemetery. I understand there's very little discussion in there except on Hallowe'en.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

I produced a quote that inspired you to demonstrate it. Thanks for that.

 

[mudwhistle]

Khashoggi has nothing to do with my job, health care, taxes, home, America's crime rate, economy or elections. It's a tragedy, but it pales to the issues American citizens care about - So I have to really wonder, dear media - WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO NEXT?

How long before you gin up a plan to BLAME TRUMP for the death of Khashoggi? We have already witnessed Democrat wingnuts insinuating the Jared Kushner had a "hit list" with Kash's name on it. Really?? (no, this has NOT been even remotely verified). So - WHY IS THE MEDIA KEEPING THIS STORY ALIVE? AMERICANS DO NOT CARE.

Mark my words - the media is going to do to turn Khashoggi into Trump's crime somehow, and it won't be just another strike, it will become a major issue. It will all be a lie, but something is going to break - or else this story would have gone away already.

“There is a cult of Ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -- Isaac Asimov

Isaac Asimov was Russian. He believed in many things that were counter to American culture. Many people who are born overseas and immigrate here learn to appreciate this country, unless you're on college campuses most of your life. Reality isn't big there.

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?

Nope, sure doesn't. He made it through birth didn't he?

Carmen Miranda was born in Europe.
Steve Martin was born in Texas.
John Hartford was born in New York City.
Bob Hope was born in the UK.
John McCain was born in Panama.
George Romney was born in Mexico.
George Orwell was born in India.

etc etc etc etc etc

That his family didn't influence his life one iota?

I'm sure they did, many iotae, as do all families. That's why he never spoke Russian and it's also why they got out of there in 1923.

Fun fact related to nothing: when Asimov was born Woodrow Wilson still had troops in his country.

The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?

At age three?
Are you clinically insane?

Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

That's true. It's a place called a cemetery. I understand there's very little discussion in there except on Hallowe'en.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

I produced a quote that inspired you to demonstrate it. Thanks for that.

So you think that the fact that he was born a specific nationality has no influence on his life?

Apparently it does, or he wouldn't be badmouthing the country and the people of the country he immigrated to.

I've been told all my life that I was part Irish/Scottish, so I tend to think of those countries favorably. Little did I know that I had grandparents that were born in Denmark and the Nederlands. This is something I discovered recently. Being born somewhere is one thing. Being the same blood as someone also effects how we think. If I was Russian I would tend to look favorably on Russia only because I didn't have to live behind the Iron Curtain.

 

[Pogo]

“There is a cult of Ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -- Isaac Asimov

Isaac Asimov was Russian. He believed in many things that were counter to American culture. Many people who are born overseas and immigrate here learn to appreciate this country, unless you're on college campuses most of your life. Reality isn't big there.

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?

Nope, sure doesn't. He made it through birth didn't he?

Carmen Miranda was born in Europe.
Steve Martin was born in Texas.
John Hartford was born in New York City.
Bob Hope was born in the UK.
John McCain was born in Panama.
George Romney was born in Mexico.
George Orwell was born in India.

etc etc etc etc etc

That his family didn't influence his life one iota?

I'm sure they did, many iotae, as do all families. That's why he never spoke Russian and it's also why they got out of there in 1923.

Fun fact related to nothing: when Asimov was born Woodrow Wilson still had troops in his country.

The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?

At age three?
Are you clinically insane?

Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

That's true. It's a place called a cemetery. I understand there's very little discussion in there except on Hallowe'en.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

I produced a quote that inspired you to demonstrate it. Thanks for that.

So you think that the fact that he was born a specific nationality has no influence on his life?

Apparently it does, or he wouldn't be badmouthing the country and the people of the country he immigrated to.

Once AGAIN you offer a demonstration of exactly the Cult of Ignorance he was talking about, specifically your proud illiteracy.

He wasn't "badmouthing the country and the people of the country" he voluntarily became a citizen of and stayed in for the rest of his life. He was badmouthing the Cult of Ignorance within it. That's immediately established in the fucking FIRST SENTENCE OF THE QUOTE.

Nice try at a modern day Checkers Speech but no cigar.

 

[BlackFlag]

Informative thread. Conservatives going out of their way to endorse the murder of journalists.

 

[mudwhistle]

Isaac Asimov was Russian. He believed in many things that were counter to American culture. Many people who are born overseas and immigrate here learn to appreciate this country, unless you're on college campuses most of your life. Reality isn't big there.

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?

Nope, sure doesn't. He made it through birth didn't he?

Carmen Miranda was born in Europe.
Steve Martin was born in Texas.
John Hartford was born in New York City.
Bob Hope was born in the UK.
John McCain was born in Panama.
George Romney was born in Mexico.
George Orwell was born in India.

etc etc etc etc etc

That his family didn't influence his life one iota?

I'm sure they did, many iotae, as do all families. That's why he never spoke Russian and it's also why they got out of there in 1923.

Fun fact related to nothing: when Asimov was born Woodrow Wilson still had troops in his country.

The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?

At age three?
Are you clinically insane?

Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

That's true. It's a place called a cemetery. I understand there's very little discussion in there except on Hallowe'en.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

I produced a quote that inspired you to demonstrate it. Thanks for that.

So you think that the fact that he was born a specific nationality has no influence on his life?

Apparently it does, or he wouldn't be badmouthing the country and the people of the country he immigrated to.

Once AGAIN you offer a demonstration of exactly the Cult of Ignorance he was talking about, specifically your proud illiteracy.

He wasn't "badmouthing the country and the people of the country" he voluntarily became a citizen of and stayed in for the rest of his life. He was badmouthing the Cult of Ignorance within it. That's immediately established in the fucking FIRST SENTENCE OF THE QUOTE.

Nice try at a modern day Checkers Speech but no cigar.

No.
He was talking like your average foreign born intellectual that populates our college campuses.
Stuck up assholes.

 

[mudwhistle]

I am watching George Stephanopoulos "Weekend News with George..." and the first full 30 minutes - the OPENING segment just two shows before the midterms, is all about the murder of Khashoggi.Why? What is the motive, dear media?

Kash was not an American citizen, not even a fully legal U.S. resident. He went missing in Istanbul, not America. He wrote for the Washington Post, but that is it. He was not an emissary, king, prime minister or diplomat.

Khashoggi has nothing to do with my job, health care, taxes, home, America's crime rate, economy or elections. It's a tragedy, but it pales to the issues American citizens care about - So I have to really wonder, dear media - WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO NEXT?

How long before you gin up a plan to BLAME TRUMP for the death of Khashoggi? We have already witnessed Democrat wingnuts insinuating the Jared Kushner had a "hit list" with Kash's name on it. Really?? (no, this has NOT been even remotely verified). So - WHY IS THE MEDIA KEEPING THIS STORY ALIVE? AMERICANS DO NOT CARE.

Mark my words - the media is going to do to turn Khashoggi into Trump's crime somehow, and it won't be just another strike, it will become a major issue. It will all be a lie, but something is going to break - or else this story would have gone away already.

No, conservatives don’t care about Khashoggi.

Just as conservatives don’t care about the war on journalists and a free press.

Just as conservatives don’t care about brutal, authoritarian regimes seeking to kill journalists who are critical of those regimes.

And just as conservatives don’t care about Trump’s failure to support and promote the fundamental American value of a free press and independent journalists.

Conservatives don’t care about Khashoggi because it’s yet another issue they’re on the wrong side of.

He was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. I can see why he was allowed to work for the WaPO.

 

[percysunshine]

I am watching George Stephanopoulos "Weekend News with George..." and the first full 30 minutes - the OPENING segment just two shows before the midterms, is all about the murder of Khashoggi.Why? What is the motive, dear media?

Kash was not an American citizen, not even a fully legal U.S. resident. He went missing in Istanbul, not America. He wrote for the Washington Post, but that is it. He was not an emissary, king, prime minister or diplomat.

Khashoggi has nothing to do with my job, health care, taxes, home, America's crime rate, economy or elections. It's a tragedy, but it pales to the issues American citizens care about - So I have to really wonder, dear media - WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO NEXT?

How long before you gin up a plan to BLAME TRUMP for the death of Khashoggi? We have already witnessed Democrat wingnuts insinuating the Jared Kushner had a "hit list" with Kash's name on it. Really?? (no, this has NOT been even remotely verified). So - WHY IS THE MEDIA KEEPING THIS STORY ALIVE? AMERICANS DO NOT CARE.

Mark my words - the media is going to do to turn Khashoggi into Trump's crime somehow, and it won't be just another strike, it will become a major issue. It will all be a lie, but something is going to break - or else this story would have gone away already.

No, conservatives don’t care about Khashoggi.

Just as conservatives don’t care about the war on journalists and a free press.

Just as conservatives don’t care about brutal, authoritarian regimes seeking to kill journalists who are critical of those regimes.

And just as conservatives don’t care about Trump’s failure to support and promote the fundamental American value of a free press and independent journalists.

Conservatives don’t care about Khashoggi because it’s yet another issue they’re on the wrong side of.

He was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. I can see why he was allowed to work for the WaPO.

He would be running Egypt if the Arab Sping had worked.

 

[Pogo]

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?

Nope, sure doesn't. He made it through birth didn't he?

Carmen Miranda was born in Europe.
Steve Martin was born in Texas.
John Hartford was born in New York City.
Bob Hope was born in the UK.
John McCain was born in Panama.
George Romney was born in Mexico.
George Orwell was born in India.

etc etc etc etc etc

That his family didn't influence his life one iota?

I'm sure they did, many iotae, as do all families. That's why he never spoke Russian and it's also why they got out of there in 1923.

Fun fact related to nothing: when Asimov was born Woodrow Wilson still had troops in his country.

The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?

At age three?
Are you clinically insane?

Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

That's true. It's a place called a cemetery. I understand there's very little discussion in there except on Hallowe'en.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

I produced a quote that inspired you to demonstrate it. Thanks for that.

So you think that the fact that he was born a specific nationality has no influence on his life?

Apparently it does, or he wouldn't be badmouthing the country and the people of the country he immigrated to.

Once AGAIN you offer a demonstration of exactly the Cult of Ignorance he was talking about, specifically your proud illiteracy.

He wasn't "badmouthing the country and the people of the country" he voluntarily became a citizen of and stayed in for the rest of his life. He was badmouthing the Cult of Ignorance within it. That's immediately established in the fucking FIRST SENTENCE OF THE QUOTE.

Nice try at a modern day Checkers Speech but no cigar.

No.
He was talking like your average foreign born intellectual that populates our college campuses.
Stuck up assholes.

He was making an observation that has been borne out over and over. You're just butthurt that he exposed it. Thirty-eight years ago.

Subliminal Manipulation: "The Best Words"

​

And it's ironic that this whining butthurt comes from a wag who for most of his time on this board claimed to be representing "Wetwang with Fimber, Yorkshire".

 

[mudwhistle]

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?

Nope, sure doesn't. He made it through birth didn't he?

Carmen Miranda was born in Europe.
Steve Martin was born in Texas.
John Hartford was born in New York City.
Bob Hope was born in the UK.
John McCain was born in Panama.
George Romney was born in Mexico.
George Orwell was born in India.

etc etc etc etc etc

That his family didn't influence his life one iota?

I'm sure they did, many iotae, as do all families. That's why he never spoke Russian and it's also why they got out of there in 1923.

Fun fact related to nothing: when Asimov was born Woodrow Wilson still had troops in his country.

The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?

At age three?
Are you clinically insane?

Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

That's true. It's a place called a cemetery. I understand there's very little discussion in there except on Hallowe'en.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

I produced a quote that inspired you to demonstrate it. Thanks for that.

So you think that the fact that he was born a specific nationality has no influence on his life?

Apparently it does, or he wouldn't be badmouthing the country and the people of the country he immigrated to.

Once AGAIN you offer a demonstration of exactly the Cult of Ignorance he was talking about, specifically your proud illiteracy.

He wasn't "badmouthing the country and the people of the country" he voluntarily became a citizen of and stayed in for the rest of his life. He was badmouthing the Cult of Ignorance within it. That's immediately established in the fucking FIRST SENTENCE OF THE QUOTE.

Nice try at a modern day Checkers Speech but no cigar.

No.
He was talking like your average foreign born intellectual that populates our college campuses.
Stuck up assholes.

He was making an observation that has been borne out over and over. You're just butthurt that he exposed it. Thirty-eight years ago.

Subliminal Manipulation: "The Best Words"

​

And it's ironic that this whining butthurt comes from a wag who for most of his time on this board claimed to be representing "Wetwang with Fimber, Yorkshire".

I pointed out that he's Russian.
He's also an intellectual.
What he said was true.
It's one thing I don't like about Americans.
Most of them don't give a damn.
It's why so many Democrats get elected.

 

[Paul Motter]

But you don't see the big picture, that Trump is not a slick Obama - he is a down & dirty fighter who is actually getting a lot of things done.

He is a reality tv performer who believes that image counts more than reality. His base agrees.

I can't deny you are partly right. We on the right do not love Trump's style, nor are we naive enough to believe most of what he says. He is "made for TV" and knows exactly how to gin up the base, and get people to do things because they believe that he believes in himself.

We felt exactly the same about Obama - a very slick talk show host who knows how to change the topic to avoid the hard questions and how to give vague "lawyerly" answers to difficult questions so he always has deniable plausibility when he gets caught in his lies. We didn't believe a single thing he said either, but let's be clear, I would have loved to have put Obama's looks & political skills into Trump's political platform. It just didn't work out that way.

And in the end, solid policy and results are better than a waffling management approach to government. I believe that is the great divide between our parties where where both candidates are concerned.

 

[Paul Motter]

More, it was Trump's open admission he cares more for JOBS than just about anything. Of course that is to be expected, but he was so clumsy about it.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Khashoggi has nothing to do with my job, health care, taxes, home, America's crime rate, economy or elections. It's a tragedy, but it pales to the issues American citizens care about - So I have to really wonder, dear media - WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO NEXT?

How long before you gin up a plan to BLAME TRUMP for the death of Khashoggi? We have already witnessed Democrat wingnuts insinuating the Jared Kushner had a "hit list" with Kash's name on it. Really?? (no, this has NOT been even remotely verified). So - WHY IS THE MEDIA KEEPING THIS STORY ALIVE? AMERICANS DO NOT CARE.

Mark my words - the media is going to do to turn Khashoggi into Trump's crime somehow, and it won't be just another strike, it will become a major issue. It will all be a lie, but something is going to break - or else this story would have gone away already.

“There is a cult of Ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -- Isaac Asimov

Isaac Asimov was Russian. He believed in many things that were counter to American culture. Many people who are born overseas and immigrate here learn to appreciate this country, unless you're on college campuses most of your life. Reality isn't big there.

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?

Nope, sure doesn't. He made it through birth didn't he?

Carmen Miranda was born in Europe.
Steve Martin was born in Texas.
John Hartford was born in New York City.
Bob Hope was born in the UK.
John McCain was born in Panama.
George Romney was born in Mexico.
George Orwell was born in India.

etc etc etc etc etc

That his family didn't influence his life one iota?

I'm sure they did, many iotae, as do all families. That's why he never spoke Russian and it's also why they got out of there in 1923.

Fun fact related to nothing: when Asimov was born Woodrow Wilson still had troops in his country.

The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?

At age three?
Are you clinically insane?

Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

That's true. It's a place called a cemetery. I understand there's very little discussion in there except on Hallowe'en.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

I produced a quote that inspired you to demonstrate it. Thanks for that.

Correction : John McCain was born on US soil at the time in Panama.

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[Pogo]

“There is a cult of Ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -- Isaac Asimov

Isaac Asimov was Russian. He believed in many things that were counter to American culture. Many people who are born overseas and immigrate here learn to appreciate this country, unless you're on college campuses most of your life. Reality isn't big there.

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?

Nope, sure doesn't. He made it through birth didn't he?

Carmen Miranda was born in Europe.
Steve Martin was born in Texas.
John Hartford was born in New York City.
Bob Hope was born in the UK.
John McCain was born in Panama.
George Romney was born in Mexico.
George Orwell was born in India.

etc etc etc etc etc

That his family didn't influence his life one iota?

I'm sure they did, many iotae, as do all families. That's why he never spoke Russian and it's also why they got out of there in 1923.

Fun fact related to nothing: when Asimov was born Woodrow Wilson still had troops in his country.

The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?

At age three?
Are you clinically insane?

Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

That's true. It's a place called a cemetery. I understand there's very little discussion in there except on Hallowe'en.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

I produced a quote that inspired you to demonstrate it. Thanks for that.

Correction : John McCain was born on US soil at the time in Panama.

WHATTHEFUCKEVER. Not the fucking point.

Bruce Willis is from Germany. Ted Cruz, from Canada. Gene Simmons, from Israel. Elon Musk, from South Africa. Ayn Rand, Al Jolson and Yul Brynner were all born in Russia. Etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

 

[mudwhistle]

Isaac Asimov was Russian. He believed in many things that were counter to American culture. Many people who are born overseas and immigrate here learn to appreciate this country, unless you're on college campuses most of your life. Reality isn't big there.

His family emigrated to the US when he was fucking three years old. He didn't even have time to learn to speak Russian.

As he said -------------- Cult of Ignorance.

So you're claiming his place of birth doesn't matter?

Nope, sure doesn't. He made it through birth didn't he?

Carmen Miranda was born in Europe.
Steve Martin was born in Texas.
John Hartford was born in New York City.
Bob Hope was born in the UK.
John McCain was born in Panama.
George Romney was born in Mexico.
George Orwell was born in India.

etc etc etc etc etc

That his family didn't influence his life one iota?

I'm sure they did, many iotae, as do all families. That's why he never spoke Russian and it's also why they got out of there in 1923.

Fun fact related to nothing: when Asimov was born Woodrow Wilson still had troops in his country.

The fact that not having to live under Communism but instead living in America doesn't make him more sympathetic to Socialism/Communism?

At age three?
Are you clinically insane?

Nevermind the fact that he is an academic who lives in a place where reality isn't discussed or experienced like the rest of the country.

That's true. It's a place called a cemetery. I understand there's very little discussion in there except on Hallowe'en.

You produced a quote that pretty much illustrated this clearly.

I produced a quote that inspired you to demonstrate it. Thanks for that.

Correction : John McCain was born on US soil at the time in Panama.

WHATTHEFUCKEVER. Not the fucking point.

Bruce Willis is from Germany. Ted Cruz, from Canada. Gene Simmons, from Israel. Elon Musk, from South Africa. Ayn Rand, Al Jolson and Yul Brynner were all born in Russia. Etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

I lived in Germany for years. Great place. Canada is a pretty nice place to live too. Israel seems great, just has assholes firing missiles at them all of the time. But Russia......That place sucks. Germans hate them. Russians act like they own the world.