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In some small cases sure but not because those people are too stupid or lazy to get IDs. That's just your attempt at lazy identity politics. In some small instances there might be older black voters who were born in the segregated south and denied access to hospitals and proper documentation but that isn't really the main reason to fight against Voter IDs as the North Carolina case showed most black voters have some form of ID but Republicans want to eliminate all but the ones they are least likely to have in order to harass black voters so they can win in the margins. That's the actual argument. This bullshit about black people being too stupid is some identity politics bullshit you mental midgets think people can't easily see through.
Born without a birth certificate, a lifelong struggle for some in the South
Nope. It's still only you pushing that narrative, dipshit.
/——/ What do you call a democRAT who marries pond scum?Democrats are below pond scum.
/-----/ OK.To laugh at your fail argument.
Where are the quotes from Democrats who said black voters were too stupid to get ID?
Man you people are dumb./-----/ OK.
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North Carolina GOP Lt. Gov. Blasts Democrats For Claiming Blacks Are Too Dumb To Get An ID To Vote | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry
North Carolina GOP Lt. Gov. Blasts Democrats For Claiming Blacks Are Too Dumb To Get An ID To Votektrh.iheart.com
/-----/ "We simply acknowledge that Black voters are less likely to have the IDs the Republicans insist on having in order to vote "Man you people are dumb.
That's an article about the a Republican simply saying that Democrats think Black voters are stupid. There is no Democrat actually saying that and in fact it's Republicans who must think Black people are stupid. No one is saying Black voters can't get IDs. We simply acknowledge that Black voters are less likely to have the IDs the Republicans insist on having in order to vote and that the purpose of this isn't voting integrity, which none of you believe in the moment you lose anyway, the purpose is to make it just a little bit harder and burdensome for black people to vote so you can eek out victories on the margins. We haven't even gotten to whether or not this is even effective strategy for you which I don't think it is. Black voter organizations do incredible work combating these efforts, helping people in the community get IDs if they need assistance like older voters and then getting people to the polls on election day.
What facts have you presented you idiot?/-----/ "We simply acknowledge that Black voters are less likely to have the IDs the Republicans insist on having in order to vote "
What a load of smelly Hillary. You keep pushing this lie. You libtards have been presented with the facts over and over, yet you ignore them and come back with the same bullshyt. Name the IDs that Blacks don't have but every other adult has. Go ahead; I dare you.
You won't because you can't.
/----/ Post #36 you moron. Now go ahead and explain why it is so difficult to present ID for voting when so many other functions require it. Go ahead.What facts have you presented you idiot?
Here is a breakdown of the percentage of people who don't have either a driver's license or passport by race. For whites that's 8% for blacks its 27%. Those are facts you mental mimidgets.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...MQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw17PiItOnfEcU_EMG5g0XV0
Why? What the fuck does that link have to do with what we're talking about? Or the facts that I presented? Make an argument instead of alluding to one you bitch./----/ Post #36 you moron. Now go ahead and explain why it is so difficult to present ID for voting when so many other functions require it. Go ahead.
24 things that require a photo ID - Washington Examiner
Voter-ID laws continue to get a lot of attention, and proponents of the law are being drowned out by opponents claiming the laws discriminate against certain voters. Rather than getting IDs to the people who are supposedly disenfranchised, opponents spend their efforts trying to end the laws...www.washingtonexaminer.com
/---/ I can't make it any simpler for you. I listed the things in life that require ID. Are you saying Blacks can't buy liquor, cigarettes, open a bank account, apply for welfare, get food stamps, medicare, social security, apply for unemployment, a job, rent or buy a house, apply for a mortgage, Drive/buy/rent a car, get on an commercial airplane, get married, purchase a gun, adopt a pet, check into a hotel, apply for a hunting or fishing license, buy a cell phone, visit a casino, pick up a prescription, or buy certain OTC medications at the drug store because they don't have photo ID?Why? What the fuck does that link have to do with what we're talking about? Or the facts that I presented? Make an argument instead of alluding to one you bitch.
No..... I'm pointing to facts that show 27% of black people don't have a driver's license or passport compared to 8% of whites. The fact that you need an ID to buy alcohol doesn't dispute that disparity you dumb Bingo. Your dumb argument boils down to you need ID to buy alcohol so all blacks must have ID because all blacks drink alcohol I guess? I don't know. I don't know how to figure out what kind of stupid you're presenting me with./---/ I can't make it any simpler for you. I listed the things in life that require ID. Are you saying Blacks can't buy liquor, cigarettes, open a bank account, apply for welfare, get food stamps, medicare, social security, apply for unemployment, a job, rent or buy a house, apply for a mortgage, Drive/buy/rent a car, get on an commercial airplane, get married, purchase a gun, adopt a pet, check into a hotel, apply for a hunting or fishing license, buy a cell phone, visit a casino, pick up a prescription, or buy certain OTC medications at the drug store because they don't have photo ID?
Go ahead, explain your rationale.
/---/ Nice try, but you cherry-picked alcohol because you're racist and think all Blacks are drinkers. What about all of the other things in life? Are you saying the 27% can't get a free state ID to do the other things on the list such as open a bank account, apply for welfare, get food stamps, medicare, social security, apply for unemployment, a job, rent or buy a house, apply for a mortgage, Drive/buy/rent a car, get on an commercial airplane, get married, purchase a gun, adopt a pet, check into a hotel, apply for a hunting or fishing license, buy a cell phone, visit a casino, pick up a prescription, or buy certain OTC medications at the drug store because they don't have photo ID??No..... I'm pointing to facts that show 27% of black people don't have a driver's license or passport compared to 8% of whites. The fact that you need an ID to buy alcohol doesn't dispute that disparity you dumb Bingo. Your dumb argument boils down to you need ID to buy alcohol so all blacks must have ID because all blacks drink alcohol I guess? I don't know. I don't know how to figure out what kind of stupid you're presenting me with.
You're being ridiculous. Just because you need ID for those things you dumb Bingo, doesn't mean 27% of blacks don't have a drivers license or passport compared to 8% of whites. You still haven't disputed that. You've only brought up irrelevant shit./---/ Nice try, but you cherry-picked alcohol because you're racist and think all Blacks are drinkers. What about all of the other things in life? Are you saying the 27% can't get a free state ID to do the other things on the list such as open a bank account, apply for welfare, get food stamps, medicare, social security, apply for unemployment, a job, rent or buy a house, apply for a mortgage, Drive/buy/rent a car, get on an commercial airplane, get married, purchase a gun, adopt a pet, check into a hotel, apply for a hunting or fishing license, buy a cell phone, visit a casino, pick up a prescription, or buy certain OTC medications at the drug store because they don't have photo ID??
You're being ridiculous. You can't make a valid point to defend your position and are grasping at straws.
/------/ OH WAIT A SECOND. You're hung up on driver's licenses and passports. OK, point taken. I agree that 27% of Blacks don't have them for various reasons. There is no reason for a DL if you live in a big city like New York, don't own a car, and walk or take the subway. And if you don't travel abroad, there is no need for a passport.You're being ridiculous. Just because you need ID for those things you dumb Bingo, doesn't mean 27% of blacks don't have a drivers license or passport compared to 8% of whites. You still haven't disputed that. You've only brought up irrelevant shit.
Blows what argument out of the water? Birth certificates and social security cards and voter registration cards aren't photo IDs. I agree some liberal states allow you to use these to vote and that isn't the issue. What we're discussing is the argument from the OP that democrats think Black people are too stupid or lazy to get an ID and that simply isn't the case. The fact is black people are less likely to have the forms of photo IDs that Republican States insist on having to vote and that this requirement burdens black voters more by the simple fact that they are less likely to have these IDs in the first place. Those are all facts that have nothing to do with black voters being stupid or lazy./------/ OH WAIT A SECOND. You're hung up on driver's licenses and passports. OK, point taken. I agree that 27% of Blacks don't have them for various reasons. There is no reason for a DL if you live in a big city like New York, don't own a car, and walk or take the subway. And if you don't travel abroad, there is no need for a passport.
However, to vote you can use other forms of ID.
Your state may require you to show a photo ID like a driver's license, state ID, or passport. Or they may ask to see another form of identification like your voter registration card, birth certificate, or Social Security card.
Find out what ID your state requires you to bring when you vote.
Well, Sparky, that blows your argument out of the water. If those 27% really want to vote, then they have plenty of ID they can use.
/----/ "this requirement burdens black voters more by the simple fact that they are less likely to have these IDs in the first place. "Blows what argument out of the water? Birth certificates and social security cards and voter registration cards aren't photo IDs. I agree some liberal states allow you to use these to vote and that isn't the issue. What we're discussing is the argument from the OP that democrats think Black people are too stupid or lazy to get an ID and that simply isn't the case. The fact is black people are less likely to have the forms of photo IDs that Republican States insist on having to vote and that this requirement burdens black voters more by the simple fact that they are less likely to have these IDs in the first place. Those are all facts that have nothing to do with black voters being stupid or lazy.
Are you illiterate? Do you think banned and burdened mean the same thing?/----/ "this requirement burdens black voters more by the simple fact that they are less likely to have these IDs in the first place. "
It would be helpful if you provided proof that Blacks are incapable of or banned from getting FREE photo IDs from their states to show at the polling station.
I concede you're a fucktard that can't read or doesn't know the definitions to simple words.At this point, you need to concede the point and move on.
Nothing. These efforts by Republicans are stupid and unlikely to do much to stop their demographic and cultural slide into irrelevance.And finally, regardless if democRATs did or didn't used the term "too stupid," they can't present a valid reason why Blacks can't obtain or use FREE state-issued photo IDs. What is stopping them?
You're being ridiculous. Just because you need ID for those things you dumb Bingo, doesn't mean 27% of blacks don't have a drivers license or passport compared to 8% of whites. You still haven't disputed that. You've only brought up irrelevant shit.
Blows what argument out of the water? Birth certificates and social security cards and voter registration cards aren't photo IDs. I agree some liberal states allow you to use these to vote and that isn't the issue. What we're discussing is the argument from the OP that democrats think Black people are too stupid or lazy to get an ID and that simply isn't the case. The fact is black people are less likely to have the forms of photo IDs that Republican States insist on having to vote and that this requirement burdens black voters more by the simple fact that they are less likely to have these IDs in the first place. Those are all facts that have nothing to do with black voters being stupid or lazy.
What percentage of black voters have those? And what exactly am I supposed to be moving passed? What I'm fixated on is destroying these silly, cowardly, arguments. The OP stated that Democrats think Black people are too stupid or lazy to get IDs but has been to pussy to provide any evidence to support their own claim. I on the other hand have argued that the real concern for democrats and black voters are that these laws burden black voters more by the very fact that they are less likely to have these IDs and I've proven that claim with links and data.OK, you are fixated on a driver's license for some reason. Each and every state issues non-driving ID cards. Move past it.
Facts aren't bullshit. You're strawman and red herring are bullshit. There are many functions in this society that don't require ID or the specific photo IDs Republicans insist on voters having to vote.More bullshit. Yet again, for at least the thirtieth time, you cannot function in modern society without an ID. It's simply not possible.