Could Trump Actually Deport 11 Million People?

In a word, Y-E-S

Trump Isn’t Bluffing, He’ll Deport 11 Million People

"Legally, there’s nothing to it.

"Trump doesn’t need an act of Congress.

"He doesn’t even have to sign an executive order.

"All he’ll have to do to set this outrage in motion is pick up the phone and tell the head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement to do his or her job: enforce the law.

"Camps cost money. So do more agents. No problem.

"President Trump can shift his budget priorities in favor of ICE.

"He’s already said he would triple ICE’s enforcement division from 5,000 to 15,000 officers.

"The FBI would have to pitch in."

Sure, the optics of the biggest forced population movement since Stalin would present problems, and it isn't too likely countries of origin would be thrilled about receiving millions of bitter, unemployed new arrivals, but could Trump actually deliver on his promise?

What happens to his administration if he can't?


Living in reality

N-O


he's not stupid enough to yank 11 million paying customers out of our stagnant economy ... as always he's all mouth and no thinking ... he is doing nothing more than keeping his trained idiots foaming at the mouth hoping they will elect him ..
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?




He added that any president can rescind an executive order of a predecessor. But the judge pointed out that every undocumented immigrant that Trump intends to deport would be entitled to a hearing and an appeal.
 
The Mythical Connection Between Immigrants and Crime
Newcomers to the U.S. are less likely than the native population to commit violent crimes or be incarcerated.

They might start by pointing out that numerous studies going back more than a century have shown that immigrants—regardless of nationality or legal status—are less likely than the native population to commit violent crimes or to be incarcerated. A new report from the Immigration Policy Center notes that while the illegal immigrant population in the U.S. more than tripled between 1990 and 2013 to more than 11.2 million, “FBI data indicate that the violent crime rate declined 48%—which included falling rates of aggravated assault, robbery, rape, and murder. Likewise, the property crime rate fell 41%, including declining rates of motor vehicle theft, larceny/robbery, and burglary.”

A separate IPC paper from 2007 explains that this is not a function of well-behaved high-skilled immigrants from India and China offsetting misdeeds of Latin American newcomers. The data show that “for every ethnic group without exception, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants,” according to the report. “This holds true especially for the Mexicans, Salvadorans, and Guatemalans who make up the bulk of the undocumented population.”

The Mythical Connection Between Immigrants and Crime
 
ou're so dramatic. Heavily fine companies that hire illegals and the illegals that actually want to work will go home. Remove welfare for anyone here illegally, and those who want freebies will go elsewhere. Those who are here legally, welcome to America.
You really think the Corporate State of America will heavily fine companies for hiring cheap labor?

"Republican front-runner Donald Trump is providing voters with entertainment, not leadership, and he won't be the next U.S. president, the head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce said Wednesday during a visit to Mexico.

"Denying immigrants the ability to work in the U.S. would be 'fundamentally changing the character of America, and we're not going to do it,' Thomas Donohue said in an interview with Bloomberg Politics in Mexico City, where he was participating in a meeting of corporate executives."
Trump Will Lose, U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Says
 
Living in reality

N-O


he's not stupid enough to yank 11 million paying customers out of our stagnant economy ... as always he's all mouth and no thinking ... he is doing nothing more than keeping his trained idiots foaming at the mouth hoping they will elect him ..
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?



Facepalm-Meme-Gif-19.png


i've read the Constitution. It is not there.
did you need help with the multisyllabic words?
 
In a word, Y-E-S

Trump Isn’t Bluffing, He’ll Deport 11 Million People

"Legally, there’s nothing to it.

"Trump doesn’t need an act of Congress.

"He doesn’t even have to sign an executive order.

"All he’ll have to do to set this outrage in motion is pick up the phone and tell the head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement to do his or her job: enforce the law.

"Camps cost money. So do more agents. No problem.

"President Trump can shift his budget priorities in favor of ICE.

"He’s already said he would triple ICE’s enforcement division from 5,000 to 15,000 officers.

"The FBI would have to pitch in."

Sure, the optics of the biggest forced population movement since Stalin would present problems, and it isn't too likely countries of origin would be thrilled about receiving millions of bitter, unemployed new arrivals, but could Trump actually deliver on his promise?

What happens to his administration if he can't?


Living in reality

N-O


he's not stupid enough to yank 11 million paying customers out of our stagnant economy ... as always he's all mouth and no thinking ... he is doing nothing more than keeping his trained idiots foaming at the mouth hoping they will elect him ..
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?




He added that any president can rescind an executive order of a predecessor. But the judge pointed out that every undocumented immigrant that Trump intends to deport would be entitled to a hearing and an appeal.

Oh, so it wasn't the Constitution, but a JUDGE who said it.

Slight difference there.
 
ou're so dramatic. Heavily fine companies that hire illegals and the illegals that actually want to work will go home. Remove welfare for anyone here illegally, and those who want freebies will go elsewhere. Those who are here legally, welcome to America.
You really think the Corporate State of America will heavily fine companies for hiring cheap labor?

"Republican front-runner Donald Trump is providing voters with entertainment, not leadership, and he won't be the next U.S. president, the head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce said Wednesday during a visit to Mexico.

"Denying immigrants the ability to work in the U.S. would be 'fundamentally changing the character of America, and we're not going to do it,' Thomas Donohue said in an interview with Bloomberg Politics in Mexico City, where he was participating in a meeting of corporate executives."
Trump Will Lose, U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Says


Well, one of them will lose. I support Trump.
 
Living in reality

N-O


he's not stupid enough to yank 11 million paying customers out of our stagnant economy ... as always he's all mouth and no thinking ... he is doing nothing more than keeping his trained idiots foaming at the mouth hoping they will elect him ..
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?




He added that any president can rescind an executive order of a predecessor. But the judge pointed out that every undocumented immigrant that Trump intends to deport would be entitled to a hearing and an appeal.

Oh, so it wasn't the Constitution, but a JUDGE who said it.

Slight difference there.
Unenumerated rights
Unenumerated rights are legal rights inferred from other legal rights that are officiated in a retrievable form codified by law institutions, such as in written constitutions, but are not themselves expressly coded or "enumerated" among the explicit writ of the law. Alternative terminology sometimes used are: implied rights, natural rights, background rights, and fundamental rights.
 
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?



Facepalm-Meme-Gif-19.png


i've read the Constitution. It is not there.
did you need help with the multisyllabic words?


And another lib who posts but can't support the claim.
 
"nativism"?!
Yes.
As in...

Trump Isn’t Bluffing, He’ll Deport 11 Million People
"Right-wingers will call the cops to report their undocumented neighbors.

"As in Nazi-occupied Europe, anyone with a grudge against someone without a valid I-9 form — resentful ex-boyfriends, etc. — will drop a dime to Trump’s jackbooted thugs.

"Checkpoints will spring up on roads, at bus stops, in train stations.

"Not that they have to; mass surveillance by the NSA ensures that the feds already know where illegals live.

"It won’t be hard to find judges to issue warrants based on those reports."
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You better have your papers in order brown boy.
 
if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?



Facepalm-Meme-Gif-19.png


i've read the Constitution. It is not there.
did you need help with the multisyllabic words?


And another lib who posts but can't support the claim.
I already have! try again slapdick.
 
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?




He added that any president can rescind an executive order of a predecessor. But the judge pointed out that every undocumented immigrant that Trump intends to deport would be entitled to a hearing and an appeal.

Oh, so it wasn't the Constitution, but a JUDGE who said it.

Slight difference there.
Unenumerated rights
Unenumerated rights are legal rights inferred from other legal rights that are officiated in a retrievable form codified by law institutions, such as in written constitutions, but are not themselves expressly coded or "enumerated" among the explicit writ of the law. Alternative terminology sometimes used are: implied rights, natural rights, background rights, and fundamental rights.

Ahh, so it isn't written in the Constitution, it was "inferred" by some judge somewhere along the line.

Got it.
 
Living in reality

N-O


he's not stupid enough to yank 11 million paying customers out of our stagnant economy ... as always he's all mouth and no thinking ... he is doing nothing more than keeping his trained idiots foaming at the mouth hoping they will elect him ..
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?




He added that any president can rescind an executive order of a predecessor. But the judge pointed out that every undocumented immigrant that Trump intends to deport would be entitled to a hearing and an appeal.

Oh, so it wasn't the Constitution, but a JUDGE who said it.

Slight difference there.

What Rights Does an Immigrant Facing Removal Have?
Non-citizens have the right to a lawyer, as well as other rights under the U.S. Constitution. The immigration authorities cannot simply deport someone without providing a chance to be heard.

Of course, the authorities often try to make the process go quickly, by asking the immigrant to sign something agreeing to depart without a hearing. In some cases, when the immigrant really is in the U.S. illegally with no defense to removal, leaving voluntarily can be the best way to go, because it avoids having an order of deportation on one's record.

But anyone who believes they might have a right to remain in the U.S. should insist on their right to a lawyer (which they will, unfortunately, have to pay for on their own) and to a hearing on the merits of their case.

A non-citizen who hasn't yet entered the U.S. does not have the same rights, and is subject to expedited removal. In other words, the person can simply be refused entry unless he or she has a legitimate fear of persecution if forced to return to his or her home country. In the latter case, the immigration officials must allow the person's asylum claim to be heard.

Immigration court proceedings are administrative, meaning they're less formal than ordinary court proceedings, and the usual rules of evidence don't apply. USCIS will be represented by an attorney. The judge as well as both attorneys may ask questions of the immigrant, and either attorney may bring in witnesses to testify.

The hearing will last as long as is needed to present and hear all the evidence. The judge may issue a decision at the end of the hearing, or later. If it's a negative decision, the judget will issue an order of removal, which becomes final as soon as the allotted time for appeal is over. Negative decisions can be appealed to the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) and then through the federal court system.

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Living in reality

N-O


he's not stupid enough to yank 11 million paying customers out of our stagnant economy ... as always he's all mouth and no thinking ... he is doing nothing more than keeping his trained idiots foaming at the mouth hoping they will elect him ..
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?



Facepalm-Meme-Gif-19.png


i've [sic] read the Constitution. It is not there.



No, you looked at the Constitution. You did not read it - obviously.
 
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?




He added that any president can rescind an executive order of a predecessor. But the judge pointed out that every undocumented immigrant that Trump intends to deport would be entitled to a hearing and an appeal.

Oh, so it wasn't the Constitution, but a JUDGE who said it.

Slight difference there.

What Rights Does an Immigrant Facing Removal Have?
Non-citizens have the right to a lawyer, as well as other rights under the U.S. Constitution. The immigration authorities cannot simply deport someone without providing a chance to be heard.

Of course, the authorities often try to make the process go quickly, by asking the immigrant to sign something agreeing to depart without a hearing. In some cases, when the immigrant really is in the U.S. illegally with no defense to removal, leaving voluntarily can be the best way to go, because it avoids having an order of deportation on one's record.

But anyone who believes they might have a right to remain in the U.S. should insist on their right to a lawyer (which they will, unfortunately, have to pay for on their own) and to a hearing on the merits of their case.

A non-citizen who hasn't yet entered the U.S. does not have the same rights, and is subject to expedited removal. In other words, the person can simply be refused entry unless he or she has a legitimate fear of persecution if forced to return to his or her home country. In the latter case, the immigration officials must allow the person's asylum claim to be heard.

Immigration court proceedings are administrative, meaning they're less formal than ordinary court proceedings, and the usual rules of evidence don't apply. USCIS will be represented by an attorney. The judge as well as both attorneys may ask questions of the immigrant, and either attorney may bring in witnesses to testify.

The hearing will last as long as is needed to present and hear all the evidence. The judge may issue a decision at the end of the hearing, or later. If it's a negative decision, the judget will issue an order of removal, which becomes final as soon as the allotted time for appeal is over. Negative decisions can be appealed to the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) and then through the federal court system.

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Rules change.

Pedro Go HOme!
 
Another way of looking at those 11 million paying customers you mentioned is to point out eliminating 2-4 million workers from the workplace will put money into the pockets of US citizens. It is also possible deportations on that scale will increase empty housing stock, thereby reducing rents?

if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?



Facepalm-Meme-Gif-19.png


i've [sic] read the Constitution. It is not there.



No, you looked at the Constitution. You did not read it - obviously.


So, I expect your next post will be a cut and paste from the COnstitution, supporting the claim?
 
if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?




He added that any president can rescind an executive order of a predecessor. But the judge pointed out that every undocumented immigrant that Trump intends to deport would be entitled to a hearing and an appeal.

Oh, so it wasn't the Constitution, but a JUDGE who said it.

Slight difference there.
Unenumerated rights
Unenumerated rights are legal rights inferred from other legal rights that are officiated in a retrievable form codified by law institutions, such as in written constitutions, but are not themselves expressly coded or "enumerated" among the explicit writ of the law. Alternative terminology sometimes used are: implied rights, natural rights, background rights, and fundamental rights.

Ahh, so it isn't written in the Constitution, it was "inferred" by some judge somewhere along the line.

Got it.
no! it was inferred by the founders ..fail .
it's even in the constitution ,

Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution
The Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution addresses rights, retained by the people, that are not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. It is part of the Bill of Rights.

asshat fails again!
 
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if Trump abides by the constitotion all 11 million people must be retained, then go before an immigration judge before they are deported .. last time I read there was a 4-6 month waiting period right now ... multiply that times 11 million and he should have the country cleaned up in 30 years or so .... then you have the cost of keeping them retained + cost of the trial + the cost of transporting them..

at best it's a recession, and possible depression...


in reality

N-O


Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?



Facepalm-Meme-Gif-19.png


i've [sic] read the Constitution. It is not there.



No, you looked at the Constitution. You did not read it - obviously.


So, I expect your next post will be a cut and paste from the COnstitution, supporting the claim?






What's the point if, as you have proven, you can't read it?
 
Common sense can bring our country back, but the first requirement is to elect a president that believes the Constitution is worth upholding.

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.
Which is why Donald Rump can't do the job. He's unqualified.
 
Where in the constitution does it say that a mexican has a right to a trial before they are deported?




He added that any president can rescind an executive order of a predecessor. But the judge pointed out that every undocumented immigrant that Trump intends to deport would be entitled to a hearing and an appeal.

Oh, so it wasn't the Constitution, but a JUDGE who said it.

Slight difference there.
Unenumerated rights
Unenumerated rights are legal rights inferred from other legal rights that are officiated in a retrievable form codified by law institutions, such as in written constitutions, but are not themselves expressly coded or "enumerated" among the explicit writ of the law. Alternative terminology sometimes used are: implied rights, natural rights, background rights, and fundamental rights.

Ahh, so it isn't written in the Constitution, it was "inferred" by some judge somewhere along the line.

Got it.
no! it was inferred by the founders ..fail .
it's even in the constitution ,

Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution
The Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution addresses rights, retained by the people, that are not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. It is part of the Bill of Rights.

asshat fails again!

You used Infer incorrectly. It was not the FOunders who inferred anything.

It was the judges centuries after the fact that "inferred" that illegals have all these rights.
 

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