Conservatives used to care about community. What happened?

[Two Thumbs]

you have to love that...the common good..

We as a nation are fine..it's you whining liberals who never see good in anything or anybody is the problem..

If you all didn't have your panties in a bunch all the time you aren't happy..

What's gotten better in the last 30 years in this country, economically?

Technology

People on welfare have digital phones.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Conservatives never really embraced 'community'.

Conservatives want the poor poorer and the rich richer. Every policy that effects that situation that they advocate advances that cause.

Sometimes you can be a real douchebag. This, is one of those times.

Do tell us WHAT HAVE YOU DONE PERSONALLY TO BETTER YOUR COMMUNITY?

Show me a policy that conservatives widely support that will narrow the gap between rich and poor.

 

[Stephanie]

Conservatives never really embraced 'community'.

Conservatives want the poor poorer and the rich richer. Every policy that effects that situation that they advocate advances that cause.

oh yawn..and every policy the liberals pass is to get and KEEP people dependent on US TAXPAYERS

sorry if not EVERYBODY doesn't like to continually get SCREWED by you people

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

What the fuck is the problem with you libs? You have no idea how us conservatives that post here do for our communities. Not a clue, yet you judge as if you do.

List your own charitable contributions or stfu.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Conservatives never really embraced 'community'.

Conservatives want the poor poorer and the rich richer. Every policy that effects that situation that they advocate advances that cause.

Sometimes you can be a real douchebag. This, is one of those times.

Do tell us WHAT HAVE YOU DONE PERSONALLY TO BETTER YOUR COMMUNITY?

Show me a policy that conservatives widely support that will narrow the gap between rich and poor.

Read our constitution.

 

[buckeye45_73]

What's gotten better in the last 30 years in this country, economically?

CEO pay, the 1%'s control of the nations wealth and multi-national corporation profits.

Yes, because money is power and money and power combined beget more money and power for those who had it.

And yet, conservatives now, in a time of necessary sacrifice, happily exempt the rich from ANY share of that sacrifice.

What "sacrifice?" I love liberals that say taxing the rich will fix issues, they're taxed higher than anyone, yet the liberals say they dont pay anything, hmmmm.....

 

[NYcarbineer]

Conservatives never really embraced 'community'.

Conservatives want the poor poorer and the rich richer. Every policy that effects that situation that they advocate advances that cause.

oh yawn..and every policy the liberals pass is to get and KEEP people dependent on US TAXPAYERS

sorry if not EVERYBODY doesn't like to continually get SCREWED by you people

You don't deny my statement. No one does because no one can.

 

[NYcarbineer]

CEO pay, the 1%'s control of the nations wealth and multi-national corporation profits.

Yes, because money is power and money and power combined beget more money and power for those who had it.

And yet, conservatives now, in a time of necessary sacrifice, happily exempt the rich from ANY share of that sacrifice.

What "sacrifice?" I love liberals that say taxing the rich will fix issues, they're taxed higher than anyone, yet the liberals say they dont pay anything, hmmmm.....

Then you agree with the conservative consensus:

The country is deeply in debt, with a huge deficit, and sacrifices must be made to fix that situation,

but NONE of the sacrifice should fall on the Rich.

You tell us then, who, specifically, should make the sacrifices needed?

 

[uscitizen]

you have to love that...the common good..

We as a nation are fine..it's you whining liberals who never see good in anything or anybody is the problem..

If you all didn't have your panties in a bunch all the time you aren't happy..

What's gotten better in the last 30 years in this country, economically?

finiancial institutions?

 

[uscitizen]

Conservatives never really embraced 'community'.

Conservatives want the poor poorer and the rich richer. Every policy that effects that situation that they advocate advances that cause.

Sometimes you can be a real douchebag. This, is one of those times.

Do tell us WHAT HAVE YOU DONE PERSONALLY TO BETTER YOUR COMMUNITY?

Show me a policy that conservatives widely support that will narrow the gap between rich and poor.

the sanctity of marriage of course.

 

[peach174]

By E.J. Dionne Jr.

To secure his standing as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Mitt Romney has disowned every sliver of moderation in his record. He’s moved to the right on tax cuts and twisted himself into a pretzel over the health-care plan he championed in Massachusetts — because conservatives are no longer allowed to acknowledge that government can improve citizens’ lives.

Romney is simply following the lead of Republicans in Congress who have abandoned American conservatism’s most attractive features: prudence, caution and a sense that change should be gradual. But most important, conservatism used to care passionately about fostering community, and it no longer does. This commitment now lies buried beneath slogans that lift up the heroic and disconnected individual — or the “job creator” — with little concern for the rest.

Today’s conservatism is about low taxes, fewer regulations, less government — and little else. Anyone who dares to define it differently faces political extinction. Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana was considered a solid conservative, until conservatives decided that anyone who seeks bipartisan consensus on anything is a sellout. Even Orrin Hatch of Utah, one of the longest-serving Republican senators, is facing a primary challenge. His flaw? He occasionally collaborated with the late Democratic senator Edward M. Kennedy on providing health insurance coverage for children and encouraging young Americans to join national service programs. In the eyes of Hatch’s onetime allies, these commitments make him an ultra-leftist.

I have long admired the conservative tradition and for years have written about it with great respect. But the new conservatism, for all its claims of representing the values that inspired our founders, breaks with the country’s deepest traditions. The United States rose to power and wealth on the basis of a balance between the public and the private spheres, between government and the marketplace, and between our love of individualism and our quest for community.

Conservatism today places individualism on a pedestal, but it originally arose in revolt against that idea. As the conservative thinker Robert A. Nisbet noted in 1968, conservatism represented a “reaction to the individualistic Enlightenment.” It “stressed the small social groups of society” and regarded such clusters of humanity — not individuals — as society’s “irreducible unit.”

True, conservatives continue to preach the importance of the family as a communal unit. But for Nisbet and many other conservatives of his era, the movement was about something larger. It “insisted upon the primacy of society to the individual — historically, logically and ethically.”

Because of the depth of our commitment to individual liberty, Americans never fully adopted this all-encompassing view of community. But we never fully rejected it, either. And therein lies the genius of the American tradition: We were born with a divided political heart. From the beginning, we have been torn by a deep but healthy tension between individualism and community. We are communitarian individualists or individualistic communitarians, but we have rarely been comfortable with being all one or all the other.

Much More: Conservatives used to care about community. What happened? - The Washington Post

This is the biggest load of laughable crap, I've seen in a long time.

It was written by a liberal (that's OBVIOUS) and AS USUAL, the liberal now tells what what HE THINKS conservatism used to be and SHOULD BE NOW.

But notice what he thinks it so "terrible." INDIVIDUALITY! Can't have that. It should be a "balance" between the collective!

Now Rush talks about this all the time. How liberals see compromise. They never see it as liberals compromising THEIR beliefs with conservatism. Oh no!

No, conservatives MUST compromise THEIR BELIEFS.

This is just more of the same, and as usual, with the paid, er I mean volunteer op, it's just another cut and paste opinion piece that has no facts and no value.

Yawn! Move on people. Nothing to see here. HO HUM!

I agree with you.
Perfect example is Senator Harry Reid, very liberal.
He is sitting on 30 plus house bills because he says they are all tea party ideas and that the tea party is too radical, and he will not allow the bills to be passed.
There is 23% of the nation who say they are tea party. That means other Americans had to vote for them too, in order to have gotten elected in 2011.
Reid is holding the bills up, because he won't allow compromise or even discussions on the House bills,based on what he thinks is radicals rather the people's votes.
How insane is that? He thinks that only tea party people, voted in the newest 87 House of representatives.

 

[Stephanie]

Conservatives never really embraced 'community'.

Conservatives want the poor poorer and the rich richer. Every policy that effects that situation that they advocate advances that cause.

oh yawn..and every policy the liberals pass is to get and KEEP people dependent on US TAXPAYERS

sorry if not EVERYBODY doesn't like to continually get SCREWED by you people

You don't deny my statement. No one does because no one can.

you keep think that...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Exactly...according to you and your cronies liberal equals socialism.
No middle ground, no chance of discussion.
People like you are the real reason for the mess.

Great, another Foreigner coming here talking about what is and isn't socialism in America

Well now, let's discuss what socialism in America is.

Our greatest and most successful socialistic program, National Parks. Saving the very best and most unique for all Americans, not just for those that can afford to buy the property.

Social Security. Designed to protect the average working American from the vagaries of the market in their old age. Not a comfortable retirement, but they don't starve to death, either.

MediCare. Now one is not given to the choice after they are to old to work, to either not get sick, or die. Of course, we know the 'Conservative' view on this. "Let him die, let him die".

Military.

Forest Service. Keeping the lands that we depend on for water, recreation, and wood products as healthy as possible.

Local police and fire departments. Obviously socialistic. Public employees, and supported by taxes.

Water and sewage. Again, in most municipalities, supported by taxes and user fees.

Yes, socialism is alive and well in the US as is capitalism. Each is a tool. We work with both, and see what works best in differant applications. But to the radical ideologues of either the right or the left, one or the other is an anthema, no matter how well it works or enhances the lives of our citizens. Radicals would rather people suffer, than see anything done in any other way than what they believe "the way things ought to be".

Yes those pesky roads that I pay for that's not socialism that's an investment.
Any tax payer pays for those it's an investment and part ownership.. Those who do not contribute is socialism

 

[Sallow]

Great, another Foreigner coming here talking about what is and isn't socialism in America

Well now, let's discuss what socialism in America is.

Our greatest and most successful socialistic program, National Parks. Saving the very best and most unique for all Americans, not just for those that can afford to buy the property.

Social Security. Designed to protect the average working American from the vagaries of the market in their old age. Not a comfortable retirement, but they don't starve to death, either.

MediCare. Now one is not given to the choice after they are to old to work, to either not get sick, or die. Of course, we know the 'Conservative' view on this. "Let him die, let him die".

Military.

Forest Service. Keeping the lands that we depend on for water, recreation, and wood products as healthy as possible.

Local police and fire departments. Obviously socialistic. Public employees, and supported by taxes.

Water and sewage. Again, in most municipalities, supported by taxes and user fees.

Yes, socialism is alive and well in the US as is capitalism. Each is a tool. We work with both, and see what works best in differant applications. But to the radical ideologues of either the right or the left, one or the other is an anthema, no matter how well it works or enhances the lives of our citizens. Radicals would rather people suffer, than see anything done in any other way than what they believe "the way things ought to be".

Yes those pesky roads that I pay for that's not socialism that's an investment.
Any tax payer pays for those it's an investment and part ownership.. Those who do not contribute is socialism

 

[The T]

Great, another Foreigner coming here talking about what is and isn't socialism in America

Well now, let's discuss what socialism in America is.

Our greatest and most successful socialistic program, National Parks. Saving the very best and most unique for all Americans, not just for those that can afford to buy the property.

Social Security. Designed to protect the average working American from the vagaries of the market in their old age. Not a comfortable retirement, but they don't starve to death, either.

MediCare. Now one is not given to the choice after they are to old to work, to either not get sick, or die. Of course, we know the 'Conservative' view on this. "Let him die, let him die".

Military.

Forest Service. Keeping the lands that we depend on for water, recreation, and wood products as healthy as possible.

Local police and fire departments. Obviously socialistic. Public employees, and supported by taxes.

Water and sewage. Again, in most municipalities, supported by taxes and user fees.

Yes, socialism is alive and well in the US as is capitalism. Each is a tool. We work with both, and see what works best in differant applications. But to the radical ideologues of either the right or the left, one or the other is an anthema, no matter how well it works or enhances the lives of our citizens. Radicals would rather people suffer, than see anything done in any other way than what they believe "the way things ought to be".

Yes those pesky roads that I pay for that's not socialism that's an investment.
Any tax payer pays for those it's an investment and part ownership.. Those who do not contribute is socialism

And it is under the Constitution Government's responsibility to post roads...and part of what taxes should go for, one of very few things.

 

[peach174]

Conservatives never really embraced 'community'.

Conservatives want the poor poorer and the rich richer. Every policy that effects that situation that they advocate advances that cause.

You have that backwards.
It's Dem's policies who have kept the poor poorer called welfare checks.
It's Dem's policies who have helped the rich get richer.
Socialism always destroys the middle class.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's not the government's job to narrow the gap between rich and poor.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Well now, let's discuss what socialism in America is.

Our greatest and most successful socialistic program, National Parks. Saving the very best and most unique for all Americans, not just for those that can afford to buy the property.

Social Security. Designed to protect the average working American from the vagaries of the market in their old age. Not a comfortable retirement, but they don't starve to death, either.

MediCare. Now one is not given to the choice after they are to old to work, to either not get sick, or die. Of course, we know the 'Conservative' view on this. "Let him die, let him die".

Military.

Forest Service. Keeping the lands that we depend on for water, recreation, and wood products as healthy as possible.

Local police and fire departments. Obviously socialistic. Public employees, and supported by taxes.

Water and sewage. Again, in most municipalities, supported by taxes and user fees.

Yes, socialism is alive and well in the US as is capitalism. Each is a tool. We work with both, and see what works best in differant applications. But to the radical ideologues of either the right or the left, one or the other is an anthema, no matter how well it works or enhances the lives of our citizens. Radicals would rather people suffer, than see anything done in any other way than what they believe "the way things ought to be".

Yes those pesky roads that I pay for that's not socialism that's an investment.
Any tax payer pays for those it's an investment and part ownership.. Those who do not contribute is socialism

And it is under the Constitution Government's responsibility to post roads...and part of what taxes should go for, one of very few things.

What he said.

 

[The T]

Much More: Conservatives used to care about community. What happened? - The Washington Post

This is the biggest load of laughable crap, I've seen in a long time.

It was written by a liberal (that's OBVIOUS) and AS USUAL, the liberal now tells what what HE THINKS conservatism used to be and SHOULD BE NOW.

But notice what he thinks it so "terrible." INDIVIDUALITY! Can't have that. It should be a "balance" between the collective!

Now Rush talks about this all the time. How liberals see compromise. They never see it as liberals compromising THEIR beliefs with conservatism. Oh no!

No, conservatives MUST compromise THEIR BELIEFS.

This is just more of the same, and as usual, with the paid, er I mean volunteer op, it's just another cut and paste opinion piece that has no facts and no value.

Yawn! Move on people. Nothing to see here. HO HUM!

I agree with you.
Perfect example is Senator Harry Reid, very liberal.
He is sitting on 30 plus house bills because he says they are all tea party ideas and that the tea party is too radical, and he will not allow the bills to be passed.
There is 23% of the nation who say they are tea party. That means other Americans had to vote for them too, in order to have gotten elected in 2011.
Reid is holding the bills up, because he won't allow compromise or even discussions on the House bills,based on what he thinks is radicals rather the people's votes.
How insane is that? He thinks that only tea party people, voted in the newest 87 House of representatives.

And what is the TEA Party? Citizens from acroos the political spectrum that have had it with Government intrusion and government's spending us poor with no accountability.

In short? Dingy Harry Reid is against the citizens AND responsibility .

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I see no lib can put their money where their mouth is in my challenge. Apparently they've done nothing personally to better their own community and are waiting for hand outs from me.