Conservatives used to care about community. What happened?

[Sallow]

You have that backwards.
It's Dem's policies who have kept the poor poorer called welfare checks.
It's Dem's policies who have helped the rich get richer.
Socialism always destroys the middle class.

Yeah..because without those checks..they would be another part of the community.

The dead part.

Which is what you guys want.

Death for people you don't like.

Again projection.......I love pointing it out everytime. Whose death do we want? Liberals are waaaay more harsh and mean than conservatives. TeaParty is a fun gathering, people get together, celebrate their country and then you have Occupy wallstreet, shit on the roads, riots, littering (a no no for liberals...well for non liberals, liberals never abide by their own rules, that's for the common people, not the edjumacated elites), obcenties galore and lots and lots of volence....dont forget the violence. Yeah those violent teapartiers.
And liberals want the death of babies that are inconvienent (now that's a truth, and together we can call it an inconvienent truth!!!!!!!!)
I just have a question sallow, why do democrats never want to help those welfare people?
Why dont they encourage them to get a job and get off welfare? how many generations have to be using welfare before you notice a pattern?

I'm thinking the democrats like people on welfare because they own them. And they scare them into saying the republicans will take away those welfare checks if you dont vote for us.....not that that EVER happens.....naaaaaaaa

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4od4QQVK1o]Andrew Breitbart Loses It At Occupy Protesters - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Cash?

Hopefully not a street begger. That's not charity, its enabling bad behavior.

I give to the food banks.

The last time I gave to a street begger..I was broke..and gave him all the change I had. He threw it back in my face and said, "That's only a dollar".

Never again.

I've offered to buy groceries for the ones will will work for food signs. They usually decline. There are certain intersections I avoid now because the police won't stop the beggars

 

[Sallow]

For the record..I don't hate conservatives. Heck..I don't hate racists..

I don't really hate anyone.

But holding up a mirror every so often..is useful.

 

[Buford]

Yeah..because without those checks..they would be another part of the community.

The dead part.

Which is what you guys want.

Death for people you don't like.

Again projection.......I love pointing it out everytime. Whose death do we want? Liberals are waaaay more harsh and mean than conservatives. TeaParty is a fun gathering, people get together, celebrate their country and then you have Occupy wallstreet, shit on the roads, riots, littering (a no no for liberals...well for non liberals, liberals never abide by their own rules, that's for the common people, not the edjumacated elites), obcenties galore and lots and lots of volence....dont forget the violence. Yeah those violent teapartiers.
And liberals want the death of babies that are inconvienent (now that's a truth, and together we can call it an inconvienent truth!!!!!!!!)
I just have a question sallow, why do democrats never want to help those welfare people?
Why dont they encourage them to get a job and get off welfare? how many generations have to be using welfare before you notice a pattern?

I'm thinking the democrats like people on welfare because they own them. And they scare them into saying the republicans will take away those welfare checks if you dont vote for us.....not that that EVER happens.....naaaaaaaa

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4od4QQVK1o]Andrew Breitbart Loses It At Occupy Protesters - YouTube[/ame]

Is Anthony Weiner in that crowd of immature brats?

 

[WillowTree]

For the record..I don't hate conservatives. Heck..I don't hate racists..

I don't really hate anyone.

But holding up a mirror every so often..is useful.

you are a person born to hysteria. sad really.

 

[Sallow]

Hopefully not a street begger. That's not charity, its enabling bad behavior.

I give to the food banks.

The last time I gave to a street begger..I was broke..and gave him all the change I had. He threw it back in my face and said, "That's only a dollar".

Never again.

I've offered to buy groceries for the ones will will work for food signs. They usually decline. There are certain intersections I avoid now because the police won't stop the beggars

Not in NYC.

One of the things I liked about Giuliani..

Zero tolerance.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

For the record..I don't hate conservatives. Heck..I don't hate racists..

I don't really hate anyone.

But holding up a mirror every so often..is useful.

 

[Sallow]

again projection.......i love pointing it out everytime. Whose death do we want? Liberals are waaaay more harsh and mean than conservatives. Teaparty is a fun gathering, people get together, celebrate their country and then you have occupy wallstreet, shit on the roads, riots, littering (a no no for liberals...well for non liberals, liberals never abide by their own rules, that's for the common people, not the edjumacated elites), obcenties galore and lots and lots of volence....dont forget the violence. Yeah those violent teapartiers.
And liberals want the death of babies that are inconvienent (now that's a truth, and together we can call it an inconvienent truth!!!!!!!!)
i just have a question sallow, why do democrats never want to help those welfare people?
Why dont they encourage them to get a job and get off welfare? How many generations have to be using welfare before you notice a pattern?

I'm thinking the democrats like people on welfare because they own them. And they scare them into saying the republicans will take away those welfare checks if you dont vote for us.....not that that ever happens.....naaaaaaaa

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4od4qqvk1o]andrew breitbart loses it at occupy protesters - youtube[/ame]

is anthony weiner in that crowd of immature brats?

behave yourself *hic*

 

[Buford]

For the record..I don't hate conservatives. Heck..I don't hate racists..

I don't really hate anyone.

But holding up a mirror every so often..is useful.

Are Black Americans who oppose Obama considered "racist"?

 

[Buford]

The Obama dweebs are falling on their swords.

 

[WillowTree]

For the record..I don't hate conservatives. Heck..I don't hate racists..

I don't really hate anyone.

But holding up a mirror every so often..is useful.

Are Black Americans who oppose Obama considered "racist"?

no,, they're called buck dancing Uncle Tom's. by the charitable left.

 

[mudwhistle]

By E.J. Dionne Jr.

To secure his standing as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Mitt Romney has disowned every sliver of moderation in his record. He’s moved to the right on tax cuts and twisted himself into a pretzel over the health-care plan he championed in Massachusetts — because conservatives are no longer allowed to acknowledge that government can improve citizens’ lives.

Romney is simply following the lead of Republicans in Congress who have abandoned American conservatism’s most attractive features: prudence, caution and a sense that change should be gradual. But most important, conservatism used to care passionately about fostering community, and it no longer does. This commitment now lies buried beneath slogans that lift up the heroic and disconnected individual — or the “job creator” — with little concern for the rest.

Today’s conservatism is about low taxes, fewer regulations, less government — and little else. Anyone who dares to define it differently faces political extinction. Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana was considered a solid conservative, until conservatives decided that anyone who seeks bipartisan consensus on anything is a sellout. Even Orrin Hatch of Utah, one of the longest-serving Republican senators, is facing a primary challenge. His flaw? He occasionally collaborated with the late Democratic senator Edward M. Kennedy on providing health insurance coverage for children and encouraging young Americans to join national service programs. In the eyes of Hatch’s onetime allies, these commitments make him an ultra-leftist.

I have long admired the conservative tradition and for years have written about it with great respect. But the new conservatism, for all its claims of representing the values that inspired our founders, breaks with the country’s deepest traditions. The United States rose to power and wealth on the basis of a balance between the public and the private spheres, between government and the marketplace, and between our love of individualism and our quest for community.

Conservatism today places individualism on a pedestal, but it originally arose in revolt against that idea. As the conservative thinker Robert A. Nisbet noted in 1968, conservatism represented a “reaction to the individualistic Enlightenment.” It “stressed the small social groups of society” and regarded such clusters of humanity — not individuals — as society’s “irreducible unit.”

True, conservatives continue to preach the importance of the family as a communal unit. But for Nisbet and many other conservatives of his era, the movement was about something larger. It “insisted upon the primacy of society to the individual — historically, logically and ethically.”

Because of the depth of our commitment to individual liberty, Americans never fully adopted this all-encompassing view of community. But we never fully rejected it, either. And therein lies the genius of the American tradition: We were born with a divided political heart. From the beginning, we have been torn by a deep but healthy tension between individualism and community. We are communitarian individualists or individualistic communitarians, but we have rarely been comfortable with being all one or all the other.

Much More: Conservatives used to care about community. What happened? - The Washington Post

We let the libs do all of the caring.

We're the ones that make sure that we have the cash the libs need to show they care.


Democrats steal from all of us and dole it out to their favorites.

We try to make it possible for all of us to afford to pay to the government what Democrats need to do this.

 

[Avatar4321]

that's easy. Democrats started lying and claiming we didnt, And then you accepted it without questioning.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Govt builds slums and blighted areas. Individuals build community.

Tough concept for the left I guess. Glad I'm not that dense.

 

[peach174]

Conservatives never really embraced 'community'.

Conservatives want the poor poorer and the rich richer. Every policy that effects that situation that they advocate advances that cause.

You have that backwards.
It's Dem's policies who have kept the poor poorer called welfare checks.
It's Dem's policies who have helped the rich get richer.
Socialism always destroys the middle class.

Yeah..because without those checks..they would be another part of the community.

The dead part.

Which is what you guys want.

Death for people you don't like.

No one died in this country before we had welfare checks Sallow.
Coservaties want to help the poor by getting them out of poverty, not keeping them in poverty.
Cons want monthly checks going to people that are down and out on their luck, have them do some type of community service for those checks and we want to send them to schools to get a better education. like a community college or a technical school.
We don't want them on a monthly check year after year, from one generation to the next.
Welfare checks has caused the rise in gangs and they really do murder the poor in their communities.
We have had many deaths in the poor communities since welfare.
So who's policies are really killing off the poor? Dem's that's who.

 

[Sallow]

For the record..I don't hate conservatives. Heck..I don't hate racists..

I don't really hate anyone.

But holding up a mirror every so often..is useful.

Are Black Americans who oppose Obama considered "racist"?

I dunno.

Do they think whites are inferior?

Got a link?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Govt builds slums and blighted areas. Individuals build community.

Tough concept for the left I guess. Glad I'm not that dense.

right on!!!!!!! the left "Forces" people......aka imposing their views on people, but they say republicans do. Apparently they dont see any major inner city in the US as well as why white people keep moving further away from the city. I really think the republicans should start a halfway house in Pelosi's neighborhood, I bet those liberals would fight it, with all they have....but it's ok to have one in a poor man's neighborhood and they tell us those criminals are fine to be on the streets

 

[Sallow]

You have that backwards.
It's Dem's policies who have kept the poor poorer called welfare checks.
It's Dem's policies who have helped the rich get richer.
Socialism always destroys the middle class.

Yeah..because without those checks..they would be another part of the community.

The dead part.

Which is what you guys want.

Death for people you don't like.

No one died in this country before we had welfare checks Sallow.
Coservaties want to help the poor by getting them out of poverty, not keeping them in poverty.
Cons want monthly checks going to people that are down and out on their luck, have them do some type of community service for those checks and we want to send them to schools to get a better education. like a community college or a technical school.
We don't want them on a monthly check year after year, from one generation to the next.
Welfare checks has caused the rise in gangs and they really do murder the poor in their communities.
We have had many deaths in the poor communities since welfare.
So who's policies are really killing off the poor? Dem's that's who.

 

[mudwhistle]

This thread is another lie using a hit-piece from a lib writer at the Washington Post. I've seen this idiot on NBC too many times to think he's objective.

He's trying to redefine Mitt Romney.

First they call him a liberal to marginalize him during the primaries.

Then they try to make him look like a Tea Party member during the general election.......even though the primaries aren't even over yet.

The left is supposed to think he's a Neocon while the right is supposed to think he's moderate that wants to raise taxes or some such nonsense.


It's not gonna work.

 

[Sallow]

Govt builds slums and blighted areas. Individuals build community.

Tough concept for the left I guess. Glad I'm not that dense.

right on!!!!!!! the left "Forces" people......aka imposing their views on people, but they say republicans do. Apparently they dont see any major inner city in the US as well as why white people keep moving further away from the city. I really think the republicans should start a halfway house in Pelosi's neighborhood, I bet those liberals would fight it, with all they have....but it's ok to have one in a poor man's neighborhood and they tell us those criminals are fine to be on the streets

You guys got this reality all your own...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9PjGXP0iC8]Homer vs New York - YouTube[/ame]