CBS News' Lara Logan Breaks Silence On Horrific Rape Ordeal In Egypt

[Katzndogz]

What you are failing to recognize is that the revolutionaries in Egypt DO love democracy! They fought for democracy. They wanted democracy. No one thought to ask what kind of democracy they wanted. In this part of the world, brutal dictators are replaced by brutal dictators. Hosni Mubarak was a brutal dictator. He kept the peace by using brutality. Christians lived mostly in peace with some random violent acts. There was a treaty with Israel. The nations heritage was secured. The Egyptians wanted to replace his brutality with another brutality but one that let them slaughter the Christians, tear up the treaty and destroy the unislamic artifacts of the ancients.

 

[bodecea]

You know that has been the spin from this President and the MSM on Egypt. You want to play dumb on that, than so be it. But it is the reality. I don't want to spend another Taxpayer Dime on that Hell-Hole.

No, I don't know that because I have NOT seen ANY evidence of that being the case except for your little rants.

You can't prove it because it is not true. It is only what you in your mind imagine has been said so you can feel even more offended by this Administration.....but you can't even be honest with yourself over this.

Easy, down girl. You're like a rapid Chihuahua nipping at my ankles. lol! You don't see the spin, that's fine with me. But we have been fed a steady diet of media propaganda on how wonderful and American/Democracy-loving this new Egyptian crowd is. We've been fed the same propaganda on Libya too. But i'm not buying into it. I'm sick of spending the $Billions in Tax Dollars on these Hell-Holes. But that's just my take anyway.

You keep saying that....how about a link to an example of all that steady diet?

 

[Sunni Man]

Lara Logan is just another journalist seeking front page publicity by sensationalizing an incident that happened to her.

In her own words, "They were raping me with their hands".

What the heck does that mean??

She never claimed any sort of penetration took place.

So basically she had her clothes torn off and a lot of guys touched her.

In reality, she was never raped.

And had no business being there in the first place.

But no doubt she will get a book and movie deal worth millions for her sensational "touch rape" story.

 

[idb]

How odd... it's Obama's fault, it is Logan's fault.... blame anyone but those who actually participated in the assault.

Not liberal thinking... not conservative thinking.... just jack shit stupid at it's finest.

I did blame those who actually participated in the assault. They're Obama's new buddies, who are now running Egypt.

If those who participated in the assualt did anything wrong, it was wrong by OUR standards, to their standards in that country they were perfectly within their rights if not obligations. That's what makes blaming the perpetrators so hard. If they were HERE, no contest, they were wrong and should be punished. But they weren't here. They were in their own country where they make the laws. The laws put logan clearly in the wrong. The punishment for women being in the wrong is immediate.

Mere weeks after Lara Logan was assaulted Egyptian women were stripped in the streets then beaten because they were naked and the perpetrators STILL did nothing wrong according to their laws.

The perpetrators did nothing wrong, it's the CULTURE stupid!

So why did the locals protect her?

 

[JamesInFlorida]

Politicizing this disgusting incident is pathetic.

 

[koshergrl]

She's a journalist. She's sharing information about what happened when she was covering a story.

That's the way journalists work. Get over it.

 

[paulitician]

What you are failing to recognize is that the revolutionaries in Egypt DO love democracy! They fought for democracy. They wanted democracy. No one thought to ask what kind of democracy they wanted. In this part of the world, brutal dictators are replaced by brutal dictators. Hosni Mubarak was a brutal dictator. He kept the peace by using brutality. Christians lived mostly in peace with some random violent acts. There was a treaty with Israel. The nations heritage was secured. The Egyptians wanted to replace his brutality with another brutality but one that let them slaughter the Christians, tear up the treaty and destroy the unislamic artifacts of the ancients.

You paint a very bleak picture. Yeah, i'm not optimistic about Egypt or Libya. Blow-Back will likely be very bad for us in the future.

 

[paulitician]

Lara Logan is just another journalist seeking front page publicity by sensationalizing an incident that happened to her.

In her own words, "They were raping me with their hands".

What the heck does that mean??

She never claimed any sort of penetration took place.

So basically she had her clothes torn off and a lot of guys touched her.

In reality, she was never raped.

And had no business being there in the first place.

But no doubt she will get a book and movie deal worth millions for her sensational "touch rape" story.

Well, that's still sexual assault. So try not to be too callous on this. I believe her when she says she was raped. And you should too.

 

[koshergrl]

I believe her. It's not the sort of story a dem would concoct about our Egyptian friends. In fact, dems are largely pissed that she's sharing.

 

[paulitician]

No, I don't know that because I have NOT seen ANY evidence of that being the case except for your little rants.

You can't prove it because it is not true. It is only what you in your mind imagine has been said so you can feel even more offended by this Administration.....but you can't even be honest with yourself over this.

Easy, down girl. You're like a rapid Chihuahua nipping at my ankles. lol! You don't see the spin, that's fine with me. But we have been fed a steady diet of media propaganda on how wonderful and American/Democracy-loving this new Egyptian crowd is. We've been fed the same propaganda on Libya too. But i'm not buying into it. I'm sick of spending the $Billions in Tax Dollars on these Hell-Holes. But that's just my take anyway.

You keep saying that....how about a link to an example of all that steady diet?

God, you're demanding. You know that's very annoying, don't ya? I get it, you don't agree with my assessment and think i'm a liar. You've said that quite a few times now. I get it, i really do. Maybe you should move on now? Just a thought anyway.

 

[Sunshine]

I have been watching this thread for a few days. I think there are some fairly valid points being made from several different directions.


Egypt is not a safe place. From the day I set foot in Cairo until the day I left the place people from there were constantly telling us how 'hospitable' the Egyptian people are. Yet, I didn't feel comfortable. Others in my group went out alone or in pairs, but I would not go out unless I was with a group, and I would not shop any street of the bazaar except where the restaurant was.

The organization that sponsored our trip told us not to wear sandles and to dress modestly. A guy I know told me to carry a scarf at all times because they don't much care for redheads. I got tired one day and sat down with our guides. They expressed disgust when a group of scantily clad women came in. I only made the mistake of getting on an elevator alone with 2 men one time. That was all it took.

I think there are some valid points about the fact that our government supported a 'revolution' that ushered in a theocracy.

The point about romanticizing the place because of the pyramids is valid. Cairo is filthy. Giza not much better. The traffic is horrible in Cairo and they don't seem to care if they run you over.

As to her being there at all. Oddly enough, it is a women's workplace rights issue to begin with. If she were told 'sorry, only men can go' that would be discrimination in our country. Her company could not discriminate. She did have a bodyguard, though. He just couldn't fight off a mob of 300 men. And that brings me to this 'rape'. They fisted her for almost an hour. They were pulling her limbs and hair trying to dismember her and pull her scalp off her skull. She probably had to have surgery, but most likely we will never hear about that. A woman's body cannot stand being fisted by hundreds of men without causing severe tissue damage. This woman's rape was a brutal savage assault. We have just sent special forces to rescue a sole American aid worker from Somalia kidnapers. Why, now, do we continue to send money to Egypt. This woman was a reporter. This was an assault not only on her, but also on one of the cardinal freedoms of a democracy - freedom of the press. She was there with a camera crew and a body guard and they were powerless. Why can't people see what is occurring here? Why do Americans continue to defend islam and compare its savage modern day actions to Christianity in the middle ages when people were ignorant and didn't know any better. This is the 21st century, folks. Why did we tolerate this?

As to Obama: Well I have tried to make time to listen to his 'outreach' to the muslim world that occurred at Cairo University just 4 days after I was there as I sure didn't have time to then. I have wondered if there was any kind of signal or code or words that said, 'OK, now it's time to throw off the US.' Because that's what they did. Granted the guys they overthrew in the ME were dictators but they were our guys, all of them. We crapped out on them. Likely all those countries who have had a 'revolution' will unite through that muslim brotherhood, are beginning to already, and cause us as much trouble for the US as they can. Sadly we did supported that so called revolution. We need to stop supporting theocracies. We don't let school children pray in this country, but we will go support a ruthless regime that treats certain of their people worse than animals in the name of a religion. That's just wrong. I will not dismiss the notion that this was Obama's intent when he went to Cairo. Not yet, anyway.

I won't go back. Ever. I won't encourage anyone else to go. There are other pyramids in safer places that are just as impressive as the ones in Giza.

 

[idb]

I have been watching this thread for a few days. I think there are some fairly valid points being made from several different directions.


Egypt is not a safe place. From the day I set foot in Cairo until the day I left the place people from there were constantly telling us how 'hospitable' the Egyptian people are. Yet, I didn't feel comfortable. Others in my group went out alone or in pairs, but I would not go out unless I was with a group, and I would not shop any street of the bazaar except where the restaurant was.

The organization that sponsored our trip told us not to wear sandles and to dress modestly. A guy I know told me to carry a scarf at all times because they don't much care for redheads. I got tired one day and sat down with our guides. They expressed disgust when a group of scantily clad women came in. I only made the mistake of getting on an elevator alone with 2 men one time. That was all it took.

I think there are some valid points about the fact that our government supported a 'revolution' that ushered in a theocracy.

The point about romanticizing the place because of the pyramids is valid. Cairo is filthy. Giza not much better. The traffic is horrible in Cairo and they don't seem to care if they run you over.

As to her being there at all. Oddly enough, it is a women's workplace rights issue to begin with. If she were told 'sorry, only men can go' that would be discrimination in our country. Her company could not discriminate. She did have a bodyguard, though. He just couldn't fight off a mob of 300 men. And that brings me to this 'rape'. They fisted her for almost an hour. They were pulling her limbs and hair trying to dismember her and pull her scalp off her skull. She probably had to have surgery, but most likely we will never hear about that. A woman's body cannot stand being fisted by hundreds of men without causing severe tissue damage. This woman's rape was a brutal savage assault. We have just sent special forces to rescue a sole American aid worker from Somalia kidnapers. Why, now, do we continue to send money to Egypt. This woman was a reporter. This was an assault not only on her, but also on one of the cardinal freedoms of a democracy - freedom of the press. She was there with a camera crew and a body guard and they were powerless. Why can't people see what is occurring here? Why do Americans continue to defend islam and compare its savage actions to Christianity in the middle ages when people were ignorant and didn't know any better. This is the 21st century, folks. Why did we tolerate this?

As to Obama: Well I have tried to make time to listen to his 'outreach' to the muslim world that occurred at Cairo University just 4 days after I was there as I sure didn't have time to then. I have wondered if there was any kind of signal or code or words that said, 'OK, now it's time to throw off the US.' Because that's what they did. Granted the guys they overthrew in the ME were dictators but they were our guys, all of them. We crapped out on them. Likely all those countries who have had a 'revolution' will unite through that muslim brotherhood, are beginning to already, and cause us as much trouble for the US as they can. Sadly we did supported that so called revolution. We need to stop supporting theocracies. We don't let school children pray in this country, but we will go support a ruthless regime that treats certain of their people worse than animals in the name of a religion. That's just wrong. I will not dismiss the notion that this was Obama's intent when he went to Cairo. Not yet, anyway.

I won't go back. Ever. I won't encourage anyone else to go. There are other pyramids in safer places that are just as impressive as the ones in Giza.

Fair enough, but repression is never a successful long-term strategy.
Eventually the dictators would have been overthrown in an even messier fashion and, as US puppets, the hate would have been directed straight at the US.

It's going to be ugly over there for a long time while everyone sorts themselves out but it has to happen - sooner or later.
The US was right not to prop up totalitarian regimes against the will of the people because sooner or later they would have been on the losing side.

 

[Sunshine]

I have been watching this thread for a few days. I think there are some fairly valid points being made from several different directions.


Egypt is not a safe place. From the day I set foot in Cairo until the day I left the place people from there were constantly telling us how 'hospitable' the Egyptian people are. Yet, I didn't feel comfortable. Others in my group went out alone or in pairs, but I would not go out unless I was with a group, and I would not shop any street of the bazaar except where the restaurant was.

The organization that sponsored our trip told us not to wear sandles and to dress modestly. A guy I know told me to carry a scarf at all times because they don't much care for redheads. I got tired one day and sat down with our guides. They expressed disgust when a group of scantily clad women came in. I only made the mistake of getting on an elevator alone with 2 men one time. That was all it took.

I think there are some valid points about the fact that our government supported a 'revolution' that ushered in a theocracy.

The point about romanticizing the place because of the pyramids is valid. Cairo is filthy. Giza not much better. The traffic is horrible in Cairo and they don't seem to care if they run you over.

As to her being there at all. Oddly enough, it is a women's workplace rights issue to begin with. If she were told 'sorry, only men can go' that would be discrimination in our country. Her company could not discriminate. She did have a bodyguard, though. He just couldn't fight off a mob of 300 men. And that brings me to this 'rape'. They fisted her for almost an hour. They were pulling her limbs and hair trying to dismember her and pull her scalp off her skull. She probably had to have surgery, but most likely we will never hear about that. A woman's body cannot stand being fisted by hundreds of men without causing severe tissue damage. This woman's rape was a brutal savage assault. We have just sent special forces to rescue a sole American aid worker from Somalia kidnapers. Why, now, do we continue to send money to Egypt. This woman was a reporter. This was an assault not only on her, but also on one of the cardinal freedoms of a democracy - freedom of the press. She was there with a camera crew and a body guard and they were powerless. Why can't people see what is occurring here? Why do Americans continue to defend islam and compare its savage actions to Christianity in the middle ages when people were ignorant and didn't know any better. This is the 21st century, folks. Why did we tolerate this?

As to Obama: Well I have tried to make time to listen to his 'outreach' to the muslim world that occurred at Cairo University just 4 days after I was there as I sure didn't have time to then. I have wondered if there was any kind of signal or code or words that said, 'OK, now it's time to throw off the US.' Because that's what they did. Granted the guys they overthrew in the ME were dictators but they were our guys, all of them. We crapped out on them. Likely all those countries who have had a 'revolution' will unite through that muslim brotherhood, are beginning to already, and cause us as much trouble for the US as they can. Sadly we did supported that so called revolution. We need to stop supporting theocracies. We don't let school children pray in this country, but we will go support a ruthless regime that treats certain of their people worse than animals in the name of a religion. That's just wrong. I will not dismiss the notion that this was Obama's intent when he went to Cairo. Not yet, anyway.

I won't go back. Ever. I won't encourage anyone else to go. There are other pyramids in safer places that are just as impressive as the ones in Giza.

Fair enough, but repression is never a successful long-term strategy.
Eventually the dictators would have been overthrown in an even messier fashion and, as US puppets, the hate would have been directed straight at the US.

It's going to be ugly over there for a long time while everyone sorts themselves out but it has to happen - sooner or later.
The US was right not to prop up totalitarian regimes against the will of the people because sooner or later they would have been on the losing side.

And you think an islamic theocracy that does this to a woman is not repressive? Do you really think the hate will not 'be directed straight at us' once that muslim brotherhood gets its ducks in a row?

 

[bodecea]

Lara Logan is just another journalist seeking front page publicity by sensationalizing an incident that happened to her.

In her own words, "They were raping me with their hands".

What the heck does that mean??

She never claimed any sort of penetration took place.

So basically she had her clothes torn off and a lot of guys touched her.

In reality, she was never raped.

And had no business being there in the first place.

But no doubt she will get a book and movie deal worth millions for her sensational "touch rape" story.

You and Kazndogz....two birds of a feather.

 

[bodecea]

Easy, down girl. You're like a rapid Chihuahua nipping at my ankles. lol! You don't see the spin, that's fine with me. But we have been fed a steady diet of media propaganda on how wonderful and American/Democracy-loving this new Egyptian crowd is. We've been fed the same propaganda on Libya too. But i'm not buying into it. I'm sick of spending the $Billions in Tax Dollars on these Hell-Holes. But that's just my take anyway.

You keep saying that....how about a link to an example of all that steady diet?

God, you're demanding. You know that's very annoying, don't ya? I get it, you don't agree with my assessment and think i'm a liar. You've said that quite a few times now. I get it, i really do. Maybe you should move on now? Just a thought anyway.

Of course you want me to move on....so you can continue your silly little assertions with no one holding you accountable for TELLING THE TRUTH.

 

[Sunshine]

Lara Logan is just another journalist seeking front page publicity by sensationalizing an incident that happened to her.

In her own words, "They were raping me with their hands".

What the heck does that mean??

She never claimed any sort of penetration took place.

So basically she had her clothes torn off and a lot of guys touched her.

In reality, she was never raped.

And had no business being there in the first place.

But no doubt she will get a book and movie deal worth millions for her sensational "touch rape" story.

That was a euphemism for fisting. They fisted her for almost an hour. Fisting. Not a word to use to a TV audience. I'm surprised she survived. She probably had to have at least 2 major surgeries. They were trying to dismember her and pull her scalp from her skull but the 'rape' was so painful she didn't even notice that. You should get your head out of your ass and read what this woman has to say. Your filthy religion! Disgusting filthy animals.

As many as three hundred Egyptian men took turns ripping at her clothing until she was naked, then they beat at her with flag poles and took turns raping her every orifice with their hands. They ripped at her hair, pulling it as though to scalp her and yanked and pulled at her arms and legs.

http://mslizzee.hubpages.com/hub/LARA-LOGAN-The-rest-of-this-horrid-story

From the same article:

Although there were no broken bones, all her joints, arms, legs and scalp were sore and bruised and she sustained some internal injuries.

Now go praise your fucking disgusting allah.

 

[Intense]

If anyone could be said to be "asking for it" this woman did.

fuck off, creep

^^^^^What He Said.^^^^^ ... Repeat....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ppMUhV2MAE&feature=related]Lara Logan breaks her silence - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Katzndogz]

What you are failing to recognize is that the revolutionaries in Egypt DO love democracy! They fought for democracy. They wanted democracy. No one thought to ask what kind of democracy they wanted. In this part of the world, brutal dictators are replaced by brutal dictators. Hosni Mubarak was a brutal dictator. He kept the peace by using brutality. Christians lived mostly in peace with some random violent acts. There was a treaty with Israel. The nations heritage was secured. The Egyptians wanted to replace his brutality with another brutality but one that let them slaughter the Christians, tear up the treaty and destroy the unislamic artifacts of the ancients.

You paint a very bleak picture. Yeah, i'm not optimistic about Egypt or Libya. Blow-Back will likely be very bad for us in the future.

Maybe this will better able explain it to you.

Democracy of Cannibals | RSN Pick of the Day Right Side News

Read the whole thing.

Like all tools, democracy is defined by its users. Give a gun to a maniac and he will shoot up a store. Give it to a responsible man, and he will use it guard his home. The difference is not in the gun, but in the values of the wielder. Offering democracy to the Muslim world will not reform it. Its tyrannies are not the problem, but a symptom of the problem. If the Muslim world were truly ready to reform, it would have already reformed itself by now. And all the Soros front groups and US and EU funded grass roots organizations won't change that. Their 0.001 percent of angry college students will provide the impetus and legitimacy for what will turn into an Islamist takeover. That's democracy for you.

 

[paulitician]

You keep saying that....how about a link to an example of all that steady diet?

God, you're demanding. You know that's very annoying, don't ya? I get it, you don't agree with my assessment and think i'm a liar. You've said that quite a few times now. I get it, i really do. Maybe you should move on now? Just a thought anyway.

Of course you want me to move on....so you can continue your silly little assertions with no one holding you accountable for TELLING THE TRUTH.

Oh, so you think of yourself as some sort of 'Hero?' Well now i understand. Look, you have already said repeatedly that you don't agree with my opinion and that i'm a liar. How many more times do you need to say that before you feel better? I get it, i really do. Your 'Hero' mission has been accomplished. So no need to hang around. It's a big site. I'm sure you'll find something else of interest. Enjoy.

 

[Intense]

You know that has been the spin from this President and the MSM on Egypt. You want to play dumb on that, than so be it. But it is the reality. I don't want to spend another Taxpayer Dime on that Hell-Hole.

No, I don't know that because I have NOT seen ANY evidence of that being the case except for your little rants.

You can't prove it because it is not true. It is only what you in your mind imagine has been said so you can feel even more offended by this Administration.....but you can't even be honest with yourself over this.

Easy, down girl. You're like a rapid Chihuahua nipping at my ankles. lol! You don't see the spin, that's fine with me. But we have been fed a steady diet of media propaganda on how wonderful and American/Democracy-loving this new Egyptian crowd is. We've been fed the same propaganda on Libya too. But i'm not buying into it. I'm sick of spending the $Billions in Tax Dollars on these Hell-Holes. But that's just my take anyway.

Accurate Perspective.