Are Atheists Delusional?

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?
if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them

They found bones.
and thats it,,,nothing about how they lived, where they lived, hat they looked like,or even how they died

they just found bones that indicate something or someone died

And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.
how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

Almost every ancient culture has legends of shape-shifters too. And legends of diminutive humans with magical abilities. Are werewolves and fairies real?
 
if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them

They found bones.
and thats it,,,nothing about how they lived, where they lived, hat they looked like,or even how they died

they just found bones that indicate something or someone died

And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.
how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

Almost every ancient culture has legends of shape-shifters too. And legends of diminutive humans with magical abilities. Are werewolves and fairies real?
show me one!!!
 
if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them

They found bones.
and thats it,,,nothing about how they lived, where they lived, hat they looked like,or even how they died

they just found bones that indicate something or someone died

And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.
how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

Odd that you dismiss cultures not having an account of the flood, but you use ancient cultures to prove your idea that man & dinosaurs lived at the same time.

But if Genesis is a historical account, all people descended from Adam & Eve?



Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

These flood tales are frequently linked by common elements that parallel the Biblical account including the warning of the coming flood, the construction of a boat in advance, the storage of animals, the inclusion of family, and the release of birds to determine if the water level had subsided. The overwhelming consistency among flood legends found in distant parts of the globe indicates they were derived from the same origin (the Bible's record), but oral transcription has changed the details through time.

Flood Legends From Around the World

and modern science is starting to think we are all from 2 people
 
First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?


Be allowed ? That Genie got out of the bottle sometime ago. Not sure how it get's put back in unless God himself intervenes soon. Without a full revamp of the educational system within this country (the one that was highjacked by the 60's hippies), there won't be no coming back from the delusional state this nation has been placed into after the highjackjng took place.


We definitely have to keep fighting to be allowed to teach creation science in schools and have creation science oppose secular or atheist science today, i.e. creation scientists to be allowed to peer-review and challenge atheist scientists papers.
 
They found bones.
and thats it,,,nothing about how they lived, where they lived, hat they looked like,or even how they died

they just found bones that indicate something or someone died

And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.
how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

Odd that you dismiss cultures not having an account of the flood, but you use ancient cultures to prove your idea that man & dinosaurs lived at the same time.

But if Genesis is a historical account, all people descended from Adam & Eve?



Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

These flood tales are frequently linked by common elements that parallel the Biblical account including the warning of the coming flood, the construction of a boat in advance, the storage of animals, the inclusion of family, and the release of birds to determine if the water level had subsided. The overwhelming consistency among flood legends found in distant parts of the globe indicates they were derived from the same origin (the Bible's record), but oral transcription has changed the details through time.

Flood Legends From Around the World

and modern science is starting to think we are all from 2 people

All of those legends can be explained by major, but localized flooding.

And if we all descended from the original 2 people, Adam and Eve, where did the people of Nod come from?
 
First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?


What is the religious answer to those questions? "My god did it"
Which is more intellectually honest? Admitting you dont know yet or filling in holes with 1st century savagery?


We didn't say God did it. God said he did it. It was found in the tablets of the Bible and after piecing together the historical or forensic evidence, we found it explained in Genesis.

It goes to show what you just said, in front of all these people, is plain wrong.
 
First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?


Be allowed ? That Genie got out of the bottle sometime ago. Not sure how it get's put back in unless God himself intervenes soon. Without a full revamp of the educational system within this country (the one that was highjacked by the 60's hippies), there won't be no coming back from the delusional state this nation has been placed into after the highjackjng took place.


We definitely have to keep fighting to be allowed to teach creation science in schools and have creation science oppose secular or atheist science today, i.e. creation scientists to be allowed to peer-review and challenge atheist scientists papers.


When the entire basis for your creation science is an invisible being that cannot be verified or studied, it does not belong in a science class at all.
 
and thats it,,,nothing about how they lived, where they lived, hat they looked like,or even how they died

they just found bones that indicate something or someone died

And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.
how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

Odd that you dismiss cultures not having an account of the flood, but you use ancient cultures to prove your idea that man & dinosaurs lived at the same time.

But if Genesis is a historical account, all people descended from Adam & Eve?



Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

These flood tales are frequently linked by common elements that parallel the Biblical account including the warning of the coming flood, the construction of a boat in advance, the storage of animals, the inclusion of family, and the release of birds to determine if the water level had subsided. The overwhelming consistency among flood legends found in distant parts of the globe indicates they were derived from the same origin (the Bible's record), but oral transcription has changed the details through time.

Flood Legends From Around the World

and modern science is starting to think we are all from 2 people

All of those legends can be explained by major, but localized flooding.

And if we all descended from the original 2 people, Adam and Eve, where did the people of Nod come from?
alinsky 101,,,if you cant refute the claim attack the messenger


its not about what you or I think,,its about what we can prove and evolution cant prove a single thing and religion doesnt have to because we openly admit its based on faith
 
Gill slits are not lies.

Nebraska Man was a name invented by the press, not scientists.

Lucy was a scientific discovery. Are you saying that they did not find the bones? Or are you saying they lied when they claimed they were neither human nor ape?

And does the Colorado River carving the Grand Canyon over millions of year come into the "lies" thing too?


lets break this down

the gil slit issue was done by a guy named ernst hearkel where he later admitted in a trial at his own university he admitted that he fabricated them with fake drawings because he was trying to create proof of evolution
this is still taught as fact

why you only focus on who named him and ignored the issue itself speaks volumes,,,let me educate you

nebraska man was a name given to a tooth found in nebraska that was made into a full grown ape human hybrid,,,
the problem is that iot was later found out to be a pigs tooth

so how do you go from a tooth to a full grown apeman???

YOU LIE!!!


AND LUCY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS NEBRASKA MAN
its just they found a few more bones,,,some of those bones were found a mile away and hundred feet deeper
from that they made another full grown apeman
google the bones and then the likeness they erected and tell me how???
I call BULLSHIT

as for the grand canyon,,,

first explain how water runs up hill???

cause the top of it is 6K feet higher than the bottom

its a breached dam that was made in a few weeks at most

So the grand canyon was created by drainage from Noah's flood? Despite the fact that there is not enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface. And despite the fact that other cultures that existed at the same time as the flood have no mention of it in their legends and history?

As for the problems with Lucy and other reconstructed hominids, there are certain constants in biology. Not every bone must be present. If you find a human skeleton with one full set of arm bones, are you going to assume he only had one arm? Or will you use the one you have to make the opposite arm match?
yyour comebacks are classic bullshit

as per the noah claims the waters of the deep broke open,,and if you were educated you would know that there is as much water under the surface as above,,,and if the claims were also true the mountains didnt exist until after, in which there is plenty of water to cover the earth


and ONE ARM???

come one you can do better than that

what I'm saying is you cant know what anything looked like with one tooth or 25? bones

only fabrication with a presupposed goal in mind can do that

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?
if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them
I have to agree with you here

The Flintstones had a pet Dino andFred used one down at the quarry
 
And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.
how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

Odd that you dismiss cultures not having an account of the flood, but you use ancient cultures to prove your idea that man & dinosaurs lived at the same time.

But if Genesis is a historical account, all people descended from Adam & Eve?



Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

These flood tales are frequently linked by common elements that parallel the Biblical account including the warning of the coming flood, the construction of a boat in advance, the storage of animals, the inclusion of family, and the release of birds to determine if the water level had subsided. The overwhelming consistency among flood legends found in distant parts of the globe indicates they were derived from the same origin (the Bible's record), but oral transcription has changed the details through time.

Flood Legends From Around the World

and modern science is starting to think we are all from 2 people

All of those legends can be explained by major, but localized flooding.

And if we all descended from the original 2 people, Adam and Eve, where did the people of Nod come from?
alinsky 101,,,if you cant refute the claim attack the messenger


its not about what you or I think,,its about what we can prove and evolution cant prove a single thing and religion doesnt have to because we openly admit its based on faith
Alinsky 102
Mock those who state things worthy of mocking
 
lets break this down

the gil slit issue was done by a guy named ernst hearkel where he later admitted in a trial at his own university he admitted that he fabricated them with fake drawings because he was trying to create proof of evolution
this is still taught as fact

why you only focus on who named him and ignored the issue itself speaks volumes,,,let me educate you

nebraska man was a name given to a tooth found in nebraska that was made into a full grown ape human hybrid,,,
the problem is that iot was later found out to be a pigs tooth

so how do you go from a tooth to a full grown apeman???

YOU LIE!!!


AND LUCY HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS NEBRASKA MAN
its just they found a few more bones,,,some of those bones were found a mile away and hundred feet deeper
from that they made another full grown apeman
google the bones and then the likeness they erected and tell me how???
I call BULLSHIT

as for the grand canyon,,,

first explain how water runs up hill???

cause the top of it is 6K feet higher than the bottom

its a breached dam that was made in a few weeks at most

So the grand canyon was created by drainage from Noah's flood? Despite the fact that there is not enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface. And despite the fact that other cultures that existed at the same time as the flood have no mention of it in their legends and history?

As for the problems with Lucy and other reconstructed hominids, there are certain constants in biology. Not every bone must be present. If you find a human skeleton with one full set of arm bones, are you going to assume he only had one arm? Or will you use the one you have to make the opposite arm match?
yyour comebacks are classic bullshit

as per the noah claims the waters of the deep broke open,,and if you were educated you would know that there is as much water under the surface as above,,,and if the claims were also true the mountains didnt exist until after, in which there is plenty of water to cover the earth


and ONE ARM???

come one you can do better than that

what I'm saying is you cant know what anything looked like with one tooth or 25? bones

only fabrication with a presupposed goal in mind can do that

So all the mountains on the planet rose up in the last few thousand years? Not only that, but they radically changed the rate at which they rise, so that the slower rate of rising we can measure today would fool us? LMAO!!

And I guess you buy into that 6 million year old planet? And that men & dinosaurs co-existed?
if men didnt see dinos then why all the pictures,sculptures paintings and written accounts about them

and who exactly talked to every human that ever lived to know no one has ever seen them
I have to agree with you here

The Flintstones had a pet Dino andFred used one down at the quarry
see,,, documented proof

you are such a dumbass
 
And those same people had seen horses and horse skeletons. So fleshing put a skeleton in their imagination is not a stretch.

And yes, there are legends of giant beasts. But none of those sculptures or paintings look like what scientific recreation of dinosaurs do.
how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

Odd that you dismiss cultures not having an account of the flood, but you use ancient cultures to prove your idea that man & dinosaurs lived at the same time.

But if Genesis is a historical account, all people descended from Adam & Eve?



Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

These flood tales are frequently linked by common elements that parallel the Biblical account including the warning of the coming flood, the construction of a boat in advance, the storage of animals, the inclusion of family, and the release of birds to determine if the water level had subsided. The overwhelming consistency among flood legends found in distant parts of the globe indicates they were derived from the same origin (the Bible's record), but oral transcription has changed the details through time.

Flood Legends From Around the World

and modern science is starting to think we are all from 2 people

All of those legends can be explained by major, but localized flooding.

And if we all descended from the original 2 people, Adam and Eve, where did the people of Nod come from?
alinsky 101,,,if you cant refute the claim attack the messenger


its not about what you or I think,,its about what we can prove and evolution cant prove a single thing and religion doesnt have to because we openly admit its based on faith

Well isn't that convenient. You demand detailed proof of science, and think your creationism should be taught in schools, but you don't have to provide the same proof. That sounds pretty delusional to me.
 
Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

- as history or legend in almost every region on earth ...

there would be no record of the travails of noah's flood as everyone was killed but the few survivors - that did not travel the planet to bear witness to the event ... your summation is in error.


and modern science is starting to think we are all from 2 people

that is correct - the metaphysical prototype is completed before the physical transfer from parent to offspring occurs creating the new entity is a single reproductive cycle.
 
how they did it is a stretch if you can make a human out of a pigs tooth

and you need to broaden your education because a lot of old draws exactly resemble known dinos and what about written accounts???

almost every old civilization has records describing them,

Odd that you dismiss cultures not having an account of the flood, but you use ancient cultures to prove your idea that man & dinosaurs lived at the same time.

But if Genesis is a historical account, all people descended from Adam & Eve?



Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

These flood tales are frequently linked by common elements that parallel the Biblical account including the warning of the coming flood, the construction of a boat in advance, the storage of animals, the inclusion of family, and the release of birds to determine if the water level had subsided. The overwhelming consistency among flood legends found in distant parts of the globe indicates they were derived from the same origin (the Bible's record), but oral transcription has changed the details through time.

Flood Legends From Around the World

and modern science is starting to think we are all from 2 people

All of those legends can be explained by major, but localized flooding.

And if we all descended from the original 2 people, Adam and Eve, where did the people of Nod come from?
alinsky 101,,,if you cant refute the claim attack the messenger


its not about what you or I think,,its about what we can prove and evolution cant prove a single thing and religion doesnt have to because we openly admit its based on faith

Well isn't that convenient. You demand detailed proof of science, and think your creationism should be taught in schools, but you don't have to provide the same proof. That sounds pretty delusional to me.


I never said it should be taught in schools,,,thats the churchs job

what I do have a problem with is flat out lies that are taught through evolution which is turning out to be another religion since its all based on faith
 
Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

- as history or legend in almost every region on earth ...

there would be no record of the travails of noah's flood as everyone was killed but the few survivors - that did not travel the planet to bear witness to the event ... your summation is in error.


and modern science is starting to think we are all from 2 people

that is correct - the metaphysical prototype is completed before the physical transfer from parent to offspring occurs creating the new entity is a single reproductive cycle.
you know nothing about story telling in ancient times,,,they didnt have TV's or theater so what do you think those storys were about???
 
In my life I have NEVER encountered anything that was demonstrably supernatural. There are plenty of things I can't explain but that is very different. When someone shows me something the natural world could not have produced, then I'll be open to the supernatural. Until them it seems like all religions are telling me to believe in them and not my own eyes.

Besides God, the only supernatural part is described in the Book of Genesis. Thus, if you are familiar with Genesis, then you have encountered it; The Bible is the best selling non-fiction book in the world year-after-year (verified by Guinness Book of Records). The natural world has never produced life itself, nor aliens, nor multiverses, nor birds from dinosaurs, nor humans from apes/chimps and more. None of it you have observed with your own eyes, but somehow "faithfully" believe it. In contrast, life from life and no life from non-life has been demonstrated by the scientific method.
 
First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?


What is the religious answer to those questions? "My god did it"
Which is more intellectually honest? Admitting you dont know yet or filling in holes with 1st century savagery?


We didn't say God did it. God said he did it. It was found in the tablets of the Bible and after piecing together the historical or forensic evidence, we found it explained in Genesis.

It goes to show what you just said, in front of all these people, is plain wrong.

Lol you sure got me there
God said it! Man, you are fucking good!
A thread about delusion... "god said it" :lol:
 

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