Penelope
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AMERICA IS STILL A CHRISTIAN NATION
This is a continuation of posts 1 , 2, 7, 17, 35, 39, and 56
After suffering ignorant people (of whom I have little patience with - ESPECIALLY when they make assumptions and never ask questions) I got a little off track.
In the posts between 56 and this one I had to prove that Jefferson was a Christian. The stupidity of non-believers on that one is astonishing. But, a lot of people fall for the argument of non - believers because this discussion lacks context.
The founders / framers of the Constitution were mortal men. They were sinners - even those who were dedicated Christians. Throughout their lives they would have varying views on the Bible. You have probably gone through some of it yourselves. We don't believe; someone convinces you differently so you believe; a radical change in our lives (like a bad experience with a religious group or a dramatically change in life like a death or major health issue) and people change their views again.
People like Jefferson, Washington, etc., etc. were also politicians. So, it becomes hard to deduce what they were really about at varying stages of their lives. That is why I used the law - statutes, Compacts, Charters, and references within our system to show where we developed our cultural values from.
America uses the common law to interpret our laws. That system is based on Anglo Saxon jurisprudence.
Common law - The feudal land law
There is the general influence of the Bible through the medium of the Christian religion upon the law. It has been often said, indeed, that Christianity is part of the common law of England, and this is due in great measure to the authority of Sir Matthew Hale (King v. Taylor, i Vent. 293, 3 Keble 507), Blackstone and other writers, while Lord Mansfield held (Chamberlain of London v. Evans, 1767) that the essential principles of revealed religion are part of the common law.
The next time you want to know how the courts arrive at a decision, it is via the common law. So, in short, our system of interpreting the law is predicated upon the way the Bible is interpreted - Commandments, like statutes are given and the courts apply fact situations to the law in the same way the Bible explains the application of law.
Since you are a Mormon, some preachers of Protestants believe you are not Christian, ie: Jeffress.
I am not a Mormon. Out of all those links, only one or two are connected to Mormons. Right now I've been working with some other people to establish a new denomination that adopts the tenets of faith our forefathers had when they were emigrating to America to get away from the tyranny of King George.
You are committed to ignorance, aren't you?
Your new denomination? How many sects are there to Christianity and you need to create a new one?
I know who Porter Rockwell was.
Yes, I know who Porter Rockwell was as well. But, it is a board name. I like a lot of people whose religious beliefs differ from my own. And those links were not limited to LDS sites either.
Since I cannot accept the premise that Joseph Smith was ever a prophet, I'm not a Mormon. It's as simple as that. The Bible College I graduated from was non-denominational. They would later join forces with the LDS and I made my exit. But, if you think you're a mind reader (when you cannot even access links and read them) feel free to believe whatever you like.
I would come closer to supporting the link by Sheldon Emry except that his no devil doctrine was something I could not subscribe to. I don't know how many denominations we have right now, but had you actually read the thread and accessed the links, you'd figure it out: No denomination is in line with what the founders / framers believed.
Yes I know, why because no denomination believed the founders believed it was to be a Christian nation , and all white nation, except a few zealots believe that. What is your response to the saying:
NASB
The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these. (there doesn't seem to be a devil)
You have not been able to refute one, single, solitary sentence I've written so if being an ass, making that kind of claim makes you think you'll feel good, have at it. We both realize that the one thing I am not is a zealot.
I want to be going in the direction this country was moving when we led the world by every metric.
Name one you want refuted? You believe in the devil which God refuted in the OT, besides that one,
and you believe the 16 amendment is unconstitutional, I believe non profits are.
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