All Israeli soldiers get this booklet and are obliged to carry and follow it

[Challenger]

fanger, et al,

Oh, this is so strange.

The Palestinian's do have a code of ethics, it's called the Hadith's

(COMMENT)

The "Hadith" dates back to the 7th Century. If the Israelis were to use the Customary Law and political practices of the 7th Century (1400 years ago), in a time when Middle East is ruled by the Eastern Byzantine Empire; a major world military power with a large army and extensive fleet, what would be the outcome for the Palestinians. Constantinople was a major cultural and religious center. Saint Gregory the Great (Gregorius Anicius --- himself a native of Arabissus, Roman Province of Armenia Secunda) is dead and Pope Sabinian assumes the Byzantine Papacy. The Emperor Maurice (who restored Khosrau to his rightful inheritance and throne in Persia) is assassinated and Khosrau II ("The Victorious"), the last of the great kings of Persia, moves to avenge his friend's death and devastates the Byzantine cities of the Middle East. By 622, the new Emperor Heraclius has reconstituted Byzantine military power and in 624 begins his march through Asia Minor and Armenia to reach Azerbaijan, and then turns south and destroys one of the most sacred Zoroastrian Fire Temples in the Persian Empire. Emperor Heraclius, with a vast army behind him, negotiates the return of the "True Cross;" discovered in Jerusalem in the year 326 by Empress Helena (mother of Constantine the Great); while searching for the tomb of Jesus. A portion of the True Cross was taken by Emperor Heraclius, which the Emperor displays in Constantinople. Then, in 629 (3 years before the Prophet Mohammad's death) personally travelled back to the Holy Lands and returns the segment, in its place of reverence within the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. Shortly afterwards, the great Byzantine (mostly Christian) cities of Syria and Palestine succumb to the pressures of a newly emerging Arab Military Force driven by Islamic Radicalism. Over the next 400 years, until the last of the Byzantine Strongholds fell, the Arab Islamic march move successfully forward until the end of the Fourth Crusade and the last of the Great Islamic Warriors Saladin, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty and the son of Ayub (the governor of Damascus) retires in poverty.

This was the atmosphere in which the Hadith was forged. And if the Israelis were to drop the Customary Laws of today, and adopt the Islamic beliefs of as demonstrated in this period, using the Islamic Warriors as the example, then what would the outcome be? Certainly, the Islamic Warriors of that period would not have given care or recognized any inherent rights of the people. It was Islam or death.

What is the application of the Hadith that you wish the Israelis to adopt? --- OR --- what in customary law of today is it that you wish the Israelis to decline?

What part of the Israelis ethic is detrimental to the Hostile Arab Palestinian?

Most Respectfully,
R

Nice bit of schoolboy history interspersed with political spin, I'd stick to arguments involving UN resolutions, you are straying way out of your comfort zone; a Byzantinist you are not..

 

[Roudy]

fanger, et al,

Oh, this is so strange.

The Palestinian's do have a code of ethics, it's called the Hadith's

(COMMENT)

The "Hadith" dates back to the 7th Century. If the Israelis were to use the Customary Law and political practices of the 7th Century (1400 years ago), in a time when Middle East is ruled by the Eastern Byzantine Empire; a major world military power with a large army and extensive fleet, what would be the outcome for the Palestinians. Constantinople was a major cultural and religious center. Saint Gregory the Great (Gregorius Anicius --- himself a native of Arabissus, Roman Province of Armenia Secunda) is dead and Pope Sabinian assumes the Byzantine Papacy. The Emperor Maurice (who restored Khosrau to his rightful inheritance and throne in Persia) is assassinated and Khosrau II ("The Victorious"), the last of the great kings of Persia, moves to avenge his friend's death and devastates the Byzantine cities of the Middle East. By 622, the new Emperor Heraclius has reconstituted Byzantine military power and in 624 begins his march through Asia Minor and Armenia to reach Azerbaijan, and then turns south and destroys one of the most sacred Zoroastrian Fire Temples in the Persian Empire. Emperor Heraclius, with a vast army behind him, negotiates the return of the "True Cross;" discovered in Jerusalem in the year 326 by Empress Helena (mother of Constantine the Great); while searching for the tomb of Jesus. A portion of the True Cross was taken by Emperor Heraclius, which the Emperor displays in Constantinople. Then, in 629 (3 years before the Prophet Mohammad's death) personally travelled back to the Holy Lands and returns the segment, in its place of reverence within the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. Shortly afterwards, the great Byzantine (mostly Christian) cities of Syria and Palestine succumb to the pressures of a newly emerging Arab Military Force driven by Islamic Radicalism. Over the next 400 years, until the last of the Byzantine Strongholds fell, the Arab Islamic march move successfully forward until the end of the Fourth Crusade and the last of the Great Islamic Warriors Saladin, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty and the son of Ayub (the governor of Damascus) retires in poverty.

This was the atmosphere in which the Hadith was forged. And if the Israelis were to drop the Customary Laws of today, and adopt the Islamic beliefs of as demonstrated in this period, using the Islamic Warriors as the example, then what would the outcome be? Certainly, the Islamic Warriors of that period would not have given care or recognized any inherent rights of the people. It was Islam or death.

What is the application of the Hadith that you wish the Israelis to adopt? --- OR --- what in customary law of today is it that you wish the Israelis to decline?

What part of the Israelis ethic is detrimental to the Hostile Arab Palestinian?

Most Respectfully,
R

Excellent post.

Like I said when they base their morality on the rantings of an illiterate terrorist prophet what else can you expect?

 

[Challenger]

And your evidence for this is.....? The only people paid to spread propaganda are Zionist Hasbarists
Students offered grants if they tweet pro-Israeli propaganda - Middle East - World - The Independent
Israel to pay students to defend it online
Prime Minister s Office Recruiting Students to Wage Online Hasbara Battles National Haaretz Daily Newspaper Israel News
https://wikispooks.com/w/images/e/e7/Hasbara_Handbook.pdf

More antisemetic canards of course. There is no such thing as paid Hasbara propagandists. But there are plenty of Islamic organizations that have assholes like you on their payola.

Hasbara troll technique #2, "Guilt by association, they point to some source your are linking to as being anti-semitic or neo-nazi." *sigh*

"canards" that's a strange word for you to use, did you look it up?

Hah! Hasbara my ass. All the people that are pro Israel are posting on their own volition. But assholes like you and Grau copying and pasting from Islamist or neo Nazi sites, it's obvious there's something else going on there. Yes, look it up, you guys are like parrots, constantly repeating antisemetic canards or derivatives. There's hardly anything new ever with you.

Hasbara troll technique #4 "Smears and insults - if the top 3 fail, then it's just character assassination."

Character assassination. Ha ha ha. You don't have a character or any integrity for it to be assassinated, you lowlife Jew hating bum. Do you have anything but antisemetic canards and calling all people who show support for Israel "Hasbara"? No I didn't think so.

Hasbara troll technique #4 "Smears and insults - if the top 3 fail, then it's just character assassination." Q.E.D.

 

[browsing deer]

Do you know where this money from hasberists is getting passed out? I want some.

 

[Roudy]

fanger, et al,

Oh, this is so strange.

The Palestinian's do have a code of ethics, it's called the Hadith's

(COMMENT)

The "Hadith" dates back to the 7th Century. If the Israelis were to use the Customary Law and political practices of the 7th Century (1400 years ago), in a time when Middle East is ruled by the Eastern Byzantine Empire; a major world military power with a large army and extensive fleet, what would be the outcome for the Palestinians. Constantinople was a major cultural and religious center. Saint Gregory the Great (Gregorius Anicius --- himself a native of Arabissus, Roman Province of Armenia Secunda) is dead and Pope Sabinian assumes the Byzantine Papacy. The Emperor Maurice (who restored Khosrau to his rightful inheritance and throne in Persia) is assassinated and Khosrau II ("The Victorious"), the last of the great kings of Persia, moves to avenge his friend's death and devastates the Byzantine cities of the Middle East. By 622, the new Emperor Heraclius has reconstituted Byzantine military power and in 624 begins his march through Asia Minor and Armenia to reach Azerbaijan, and then turns south and destroys one of the most sacred Zoroastrian Fire Temples in the Persian Empire. Emperor Heraclius, with a vast army behind him, negotiates the return of the "True Cross;" discovered in Jerusalem in the year 326 by Empress Helena (mother of Constantine the Great); while searching for the tomb of Jesus. A portion of the True Cross was taken by Emperor Heraclius, which the Emperor displays in Constantinople. Then, in 629 (3 years before the Prophet Mohammad's death) personally travelled back to the Holy Lands and returns the segment, in its place of reverence within the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. Shortly afterwards, the great Byzantine (mostly Christian) cities of Syria and Palestine succumb to the pressures of a newly emerging Arab Military Force driven by Islamic Radicalism. Over the next 400 years, until the last of the Byzantine Strongholds fell, the Arab Islamic march move successfully forward until the end of the Fourth Crusade and the last of the Great Islamic Warriors Saladin, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty and the son of Ayub (the governor of Damascus) retires in poverty.

This was the atmosphere in which the Hadith was forged. And if the Israelis were to drop the Customary Laws of today, and adopt the Islamic beliefs of as demonstrated in this period, using the Islamic Warriors as the example, then what would the outcome be? Certainly, the Islamic Warriors of that period would not have given care or recognized any inherent rights of the people. It was Islam or death.

What is the application of the Hadith that you wish the Israelis to adopt? --- OR --- what in customary law of today is it that you wish the Israelis to decline?

What part of the Israelis ethic is detrimental to the Hostile Arab Palestinian?

Most Respectfully,
R

Nice bit of schoolboy history interspersed with political spin, I'd stick to arguments involving UN resolutions, you are straying way out of your comfort zone; a Byzantinist you are not..

IslamoNazi troll technique #4: "smears and insults" if the top 3 techniques fail, then it's just character assassination.

 

[Roudy]

Do you know where this money from hasberists is getting passed out? I want some.

Have you noticed, all the PaliNazi supporters whine the same way when confronted with the truth.

 

[browsing deer]

Do you know where this money from hasberists is getting passed out? I want some.

Have you noticed, all the PaliNazi supporters whine the same way when confronted with the truth.

They have a horrible alergic reaction to it. Truth makes them break out in hives and sends them into shock. You give them enough truth it can be fatal

 

[RoccoR]

Challenger, et al,

Oh,,, I'm sure I did not open the debate into the time period for the origin of the ethics. I believe that was you (see your quoted post) when you raised the ethics of more than a thousand years ago.

fanger, et al,

Oh, this is so strange.

The Palestinian's do have a code of ethics, it's called the Hadith's

(COMMENT)

The "Hadith" dates back to the 7th Century. If the Israelis were to use the Customary Law and political practices of the 7th Century (1400 years ago), in a time when Middle East is ruled by the Eastern Byzantine Empire; a major world military power with a large army and extensive fleet, what would be the outcome for the Palestinians. Constantinople was a major cultural and religious center. Saint Gregory the Great (Gregorius Anicius --- himself a native of Arabissus, Roman Province of Armenia Secunda) is dead and Pope Sabinian assumes the Byzantine Papacy. The Emperor Maurice (who restored Khosrau to his rightful inheritance and throne in Persia) is assassinated and Khosrau II ("The Victorious"), the last of the great kings of Persia, moves to avenge his friend's death and devastates the Byzantine cities of the Middle East. By 622, the new Emperor Heraclius has reconstituted Byzantine military power and in 624 begins his march through Asia Minor and Armenia to reach Azerbaijan, and then turns south and destroys one of the most sacred Zoroastrian Fire Temples in the Persian Empire. Emperor Heraclius, with a vast army behind him, negotiates the return of the "True Cross;" discovered in Jerusalem in the year 326 by Empress Helena (mother of Constantine the Great); while searching for the tomb of Jesus. A portion of the True Cross was taken by Emperor Heraclius, which the Emperor displays in Constantinople. Then, in 629 (3 years before the Prophet Mohammad's death) personally travelled back to the Holy Lands and returns the segment, in its place of reverence within the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. Shortly afterwards, the great Byzantine (mostly Christian) cities of Syria and Palestine succumb to the pressures of a newly emerging Arab Military Force driven by Islamic Radicalism. Over the next 400 years, until the last of the Byzantine Strongholds fell, the Arab Islamic march move successfully forward until the end of the Fourth Crusade and the last of the Great Islamic Warriors Saladin, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty and the son of Ayub (the governor of Damascus) retires in poverty.

This was the atmosphere in which the Hadith was forged. And if the Israelis were to drop the Customary Laws of today, and adopt the Islamic beliefs of as demonstrated in this period, using the Islamic Warriors as the example, then what would the outcome be? Certainly, the Islamic Warriors of that period would not have given care or recognized any inherent rights of the people. It was Islam or death.

What is the application of the Hadith that you wish the Israelis to adopt? --- OR --- what in customary law of today is it that you wish the Israelis to decline?

What part of the Israelis ethic is detrimental to the Hostile Arab Palestinian?

Most Respectfully,
R

Nice bit of schoolboy history interspersed with political spin, I'd stick to arguments involving UN resolutions, you are straying way out of your comfort zone; a Byzantinist you are not..

(COMMENT)

And I do generally use the more contemporary Customary Law and International Humanitarian Law of the 20th and 21st Century. See Posting #297 as the most recent example. And no --- while I might have, what may would call, a classical education, --- even the Byzantine Period, and that of the Zoroastrians were both --- well before me. However, I am more than passingly familiar with the Chivalry exercised by the Islamic Warriors under the command of Saladin; which bears no resemblance to that exercised by the more modern Jihadists and Fedayeen associated with the current Arab Palestinian Conflict.

Even in the time of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), the Byzantine Emperor (Christian) and the Persian King (Muslim) held each other in high esteem and were able to discuss princely matters of family and state during that period. Similarly, Sources from the time paint the rapport between Richard I and Saladin in high chivalric times, noting how Saladin dispatched his doctors to Richard when he heard the English was ill and two horses when Richard's one proved lame. So revered was Saladin that some 7 centuries after his death, even by the Christian World, it was that (The Kaiser) Emperor Wilhelm II (German Emperor and King of Prussia) donated a new marble sarcophagus to the Saladin Mausoleum in great remembrance and recognition (Sovereign-to-Sovereign) as a Knight in Chivalry.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Challenger]

Do you know where this money from hasberists is getting passed out? I want some.

Here you go, happy to help. StandWithUs Volunteer

 

[Challenger]

Oh,,, I'm sure I did not open the debate into the time period for the origin of the ethics. I believe that was you (see your quoted post) when you raised the ethics of more than a thousand years ago.

You believe incorrectly.

 

[Challenger]

Even in the time of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), the Byzantine Emperor (Christian) and the Persian King (Muslim) held each other in high esteem and were able to discuss princely matters of family and state during that period.

At the time of Mohammad, the Persian King was a Zoroastrian, not a Muslim. As i said, classical education notwithstanding, a Byzantinist, you are not.

 

[Roudy]

Do you know where this money from hasberists is getting passed out? I want some.

Here you go, happy to help. StandWithUs Volunteer

Bzzzz wrong. That's a volunteer organization. Try again, Achmed.

Our Mission — Supporting Israel Around The World

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[Roudy]

Even in the time of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), the Byzantine Emperor (Christian) and the Persian King (Muslim) held each other in high esteem and were able to discuss princely matters of family and state during that period.

At the time of Mohammad, the Persian King was a Zoroastrian, not a Muslim. As i said, classical education notwithstanding, a Byzantinist, you are not.

And what was it that Pope Benedict said about what An Emperor said about Islam and Arab Muslim invaders, that drove the Muslims crazy?

ON ISLAM
In September 2006, Pope Benedict XVI provoked outrage in the Muslim world with a speech given at the University of Regensburg in Germany.

The lecture, entitled Faith, Reason and the University: Memories and Reflections, explored the historical and philosophical differences between Islam and Christianity, and the relationship between violence and faith.

During his address, Pope Benedict quoted a 14th Century Christian emperor: "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

 

[Roudy]

Do you know where this money from hasberists is getting passed out? I want some.

Here you go, happy to help. StandWithUs Volunteer

I bet you Challenger gets paid by a shitty PaliNazi propaganda site similar to one of these:

If Americans Knew - What every American needs to know about Israel Palestine

Free Palestine Movement

 

[Phoenall]

Now I've counted 20 attacks by Jewish organizations among them bombings by Kahana group (which are terror) but also smoke grenade and tear gas "bombing". And I'm not sure those Animal activists weren't included because of some Rosenthal among 'em.

So now the FBI are "anti-Semitic" whatever next...Jewish terrorism is only due to provocations by the Moooslims constantly throwing stones at tanks...that clanging noise is enough to drive anyone to slaughter them...or burn their children alive.

How about a link to Israeli terrorism then, you know the score unbiased and non partisan.

- - - - - - - - - - - -

Among the many Realities ignored by the Hasbarats is the fact that Zionists introduced what is called "Terrorism" into the region.

They used the first Letter Bombs, Car Bombs, and large scale Bombings killing members of all groups including Jews i.e. The King David Hotel & the Patria:

“On Nov. 25, 1940 the Haganah commanders ordered the blowing up of the ship Patria in Haifa Harbor as a protest against England’s plan to send refugees to Mauritius instead of to Palestine, and thus 272 Jewish refugees perished.”


Zionists Terrorist Gangs kill Jews & Americans just as readily as Muslims if they get in the way of their "Greater Israel" & other murderous & expansionist agendas. The same Zionist Gangs & political parities (i.e. German Zionist Federation) are just as dangerous to fellow Jews as to anyone else.


Also:


“Jewish Extremists Have Committed More Acts Of Terrorism In The US Than Muslim Extremists”

Jewish Extremists Have Committed More Acts Of Terrorism In The US Than Muslim Extremists Alternative

EXCERPT “An FBI report shows that only a small percentage of terrorist attacks carried out on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were perpetrated by Muslims.
According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%).
These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion.
These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.”CONTINUED


Additionally, as much as Israel's Hasbarats howl & whine about "Palestine suicide bombings", the fact is:

“The first Palestinian suicide bombing occurred in 1994, 40 days after the massacre by the Brooklyn native Baruch Goldstein of 29 praying Muslims at the Al Ibrahim Mosque in Hebron.”


Thanks

You forget that islam was founded on terrorism in the 7C and the koran commands ALL muslims to strike terror into the hesrts of the non muslims . So terrorism was around long before hasbara, Ashkenazi Jews and the Balfour decleration, and it was Islamic.

By the way the first recorded suicide bombing in Palestine was in 1989 by Palestinian Islamic Jihad 5 years before the attack on armed Palestinian terrorists planning to mass murder Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

Now I've counted 20 attacks by Jewish organizations among them bombings by Kahana group (which are terror) but also smoke grenade and tear gas "bombing". And I'm not sure those Animal activists weren't included because of some Rosenthal among 'em.

So now the FBI are "anti-Semitic" whatever next...Jewish terrorism is only due to provocations by the Moooslims constantly throwing stones at tanks...that clanging noise is enough to drive anyone to slaughter them...or burn their children alive.

How about a link to Israeli terrorism then, you know the score unbiased and non partisan.

- - - - - - - - - - - -

Among the many Realities ignored by the Hasbarats is the fact that Zionists introduced what is called "Terrorism" into the region.

They used the first Letter Bombs, Car Bombs, and large scale Bombings killing members of all groups including Jews i.e. The King David Hotel & the Patria:

“On Nov. 25, 1940 the Haganah commanders ordered the blowing up of the ship Patria in Haifa Harbor as a protest against England’s plan to send refugees to Mauritius instead of to Palestine, and thus 272 Jewish refugees perished.”


Zionists Terrorist Gangs kill Jews & Americans just as readily as Muslims if they get in the way of their "Greater Israel" & other murderous & expansionist agendas. The same Zionist Gangs & political parities (i.e. German Zionist Federation) are just as dangerous to fellow Jews as to anyone else.


Also:


“Jewish Extremists Have Committed More Acts Of Terrorism In The US Than Muslim Extremists”

Jewish Extremists Have Committed More Acts Of Terrorism In The US Than Muslim Extremists Alternative

EXCERPT “An FBI report shows that only a small percentage of terrorist attacks carried out on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were perpetrated by Muslims.
According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%).
These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion.
These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.”CONTINUED


Additionally, as much as Israel's Hasbarats howl & whine about "Palestine suicide bombings", the fact is:

“The first Palestinian suicide bombing occurred in 1994, 40 days after the massacre by the Brooklyn native Baruch Goldstein of 29 praying Muslims at the Al Ibrahim Mosque in Hebron.”


Thanks

9/11 was committed by Muslims. That was enough by itself.

________________

Not so fast there.......

I don't believe Poll statistics to be exact but depending on how the Poll question is asked, a vast majority of Americans no longer believe the absurd "Official Version"

For Example:

“Scientific Poll: 84% Say 9/11 Is A Cover Up - Prison Planet.com
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm‎


“One in Seven Believe U.S. Government staged the 9/11 attacks in conspiracy”
One in seven believe American Government staged the 9 11 attacks in conspiracy Daily Mail Online

. . . . . . . . . .

In addition to reams of expert testimony from individuals who are far more knowledgeable in the fields of piloting an airliner, demolition, etc etc even the FBI didn't believe Bin Laden etc were involved:

FBI: No hard evidence linking Bin Laden to 9/11
FBI No hard evidence linking Bin Laden to 9 11

Look for Yourself:

FBI Most Wanted List
FBI Be part of the solution.

He's wanted for other stuff but 9/11 isn't one of them.......

Turkey and Israel What Lies Behind the Recent Volte Face by G n l Tol
. . . . . . . . .
Other than an excuse to vilify Muslims by anti Islamic bigots, why do some people still hang on the unbelievable Official Version of 9/11

Please take a look:

“Psychologists Explain 9/11 Denial Despite Hard Scientific Evidence”
Psychologists Explain 9 11 Denial Despite Hard Scientific Evidence Conscious Life News

. . . . . . . . . . . .

Additionally, the solution to any crime exists in figuring who stood to benefit & "Means, Motive & Opportunity".

If a.Q. was responsible, why was the first reaction of the US Government to destroy Iraq, for Israel?

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. ’03

Yep all islamonazi, white supremacist or Nazi propaganda sources for your links, shows that no lie is too big for the Jew Haters to repeat when following the lead of the senior NAZI.

 

[Phoenall]

Now I've counted 20 attacks by Jewish organizations among them bombings by Kahana group (which are terror) but also smoke grenade and tear gas "bombing". And I'm not sure those Animal activists weren't included because of some Rosenthal among 'em.

So now the FBI are "anti-Semitic" whatever next...Jewish terrorism is only due to provocations by the Moooslims constantly throwing stones at tanks...that clanging noise is enough to drive anyone to slaughter them...or burn their children alive.

How about a link to Israeli terrorism then, you know the score unbiased and non partisan.

- - - - - - - - - - - -

Among the many Realities ignored by the Hasbarats is the fact that Zionists introduced what is called "Terrorism" into the region.

They used the first Letter Bombs, Car Bombs, and large scale Bombings killing members of all groups including Jews i.e. The King David Hotel & the Patria:

“On Nov. 25, 1940 the Haganah commanders ordered the blowing up of the ship Patria in Haifa Harbor as a protest against England’s plan to send refugees to Mauritius instead of to Palestine, and thus 272 Jewish refugees perished.”


Zionists Terrorist Gangs kill Jews & Americans just as readily as Muslims if they get in the way of their "Greater Israel" & other murderous & expansionist agendas. The same Zionist Gangs & political parities (i.e. German Zionist Federation) are just as dangerous to fellow Jews as to anyone else.


Also:


“Jewish Extremists Have Committed More Acts Of Terrorism In The US Than Muslim Extremists”

Jewish Extremists Have Committed More Acts Of Terrorism In The US Than Muslim Extremists Alternative

EXCERPT “An FBI report shows that only a small percentage of terrorist attacks carried out on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were perpetrated by Muslims.
According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%).
These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion.
These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.”CONTINUED


Additionally, as much as Israel's Hasbarats howl & whine about "Palestine suicide bombings", the fact is:

“The first Palestinian suicide bombing occurred in 1994, 40 days after the massacre by the Brooklyn native Baruch Goldstein of 29 praying Muslims at the Al Ibrahim Mosque in Hebron.”


Thanks

9/11 was committed by Muslims. That was enough by itself.

Saudi Arabians...America's ally. Not a Palestinian in sight.

Until the reasons for the attack were given, amongst them the plight of arab muslim terrorists in Palestine and the part played by the US in their plight.

 

[Phoenall]

Happy to see the bullshit is still flowing here. The date stamp of this article based upon it's URL is from 2005.

NEXT!

So because a child was murdered in 2005 it's of no consequence to you then? Oh forgot, she was a Palestinian "untermensch", so they don't count to Zionists like you, got it.

Man you really do not know me do you. The reason I pointed out the fact that it was in 2005 means that we have probably hashed this out already, to the further distraction and derailment, and in many many other threads; not that I think it is of no consequence.

Try again. And check it. I didn't even call you names.

Neither did I, you admitted yourself you are a Zionist in previous posts; are you now denying you are a Zionist? If that's the case, I'll stop calling you one.

HEY RAT BOY I AM A ZIONIST BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE JEWS SHOULD HAVE A NATIONAL HOME IN THE M.E. AND THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THAT HOME FROM ATTACK BY ARAB MUSLIM TERRORISTS AND NAZIS. DOES THIS MAKE ME A BAD PERSON AS YOU IMPLY WITH YOUR OUR OF CONTEXT AND FALSE DEFINITION OF WHAT A ZIONIST IS ?

I wont hold my breath waiting for your reply as you are not man enough or intelligent enough to give one.

 

[Phoenall]

9/11 was committed by Muslims. That was enough by itself.

________________

Not so fast there.......

I don't believe Poll statistics to be exact but depending on how the Poll question is asked, a vast majority of Americans no longer believe the absurd "Official Version"

For Example:

“Scientific Poll: 84% Say 9/11 Is A Cover Up - Prison Planet.com
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm‎


“One in Seven Believe U.S. Government staged the 9/11 attacks in conspiracy”
One in seven believe American Government staged the 9 11 attacks in conspiracy Daily Mail Online

. . . . . . . . . .

In addition to reams of expert testimony from individuals who are far more knowledgeable in the fields of piloting an airliner, demolition, etc etc even the FBI didn't believe Bin Laden etc were involved:

FBI: No hard evidence linking Bin Laden to 9/11
FBI No hard evidence linking Bin Laden to 9 11

Look for Yourself:

FBI Most Wanted List
FBI Be part of the solution.

He's wanted for other stuff but 9/11 isn't one of them.......

Turkey and Israel What Lies Behind the Recent Volte Face by G n l Tol
. . . . . . . . .
Other than an excuse to vilify Muslims by anti Islamic bigots, why do some people still hang on the unbelievable Official Version of 9/11

Please take a look:

“Psychologists Explain 9/11 Denial Despite Hard Scientific Evidence”
Psychologists Explain 9 11 Denial Despite Hard Scientific Evidence Conscious Life News

. . . . . . . . . . . .

Additionally, the solution to any crime exists in figuring who stood to benefit & "Means, Motive & Opportunity".

If a.Q. was responsible, why was the first reaction of the US Government to destroy Iraq, for Israel?

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. ’03

This isn't the thread for goofy conspiracy theories.

You mean like this one: "All Israeli soldiers get this booklet and are obliged to carry and follow it"?
sounds like a far-fetched theory to me.

That's not a theory. That's policy.

A far-fetched theory could be described as "Palestinians" or "Islamic freedom fighters".

The far fetched theory part is "...and follow it"

LINK ?

 

[Phoenall]

The region known as Palestine was invented by the Romans in about 70 C.E. as in insult to the Jews.

Does not alter the fact that over 50% of gaza is unoccupied open land, and that is where the terrorists should be firing their illegal weapons from.

No targeting at all if hamas insist on firing illegal weapons from occupied civilian areas then they will be held accountable for the deaths of 2,200 terrorists/militia/human shields.

You should read the IHL, Geneva conventions and learn the true facts instead of touting islamonazi propaganda, blood libels and lies.

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1. If you can't read the credible sources I've already posted, get some help.
If you won't read them, there's no point in my responding:

"Palestine"
Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
EXCERPT “Palestine (Arabic: فلسطين‎ Filasṭīn, Falasṭīn, Filisṭīn; Greek: Παλαιστίνη

It's generally accepted that the Greeks preceded (came before) the Romans.

Either way, the Native Arabic Christian Residents of Palestine are genetically connected to pre- Canaanite residents:

“Palestinian people”
Palestinians - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
EXCERPT“Genetic analysis suggests that Palestinians are "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times," and that the Muslims among them are largely descendants of Christians and Jews from the southern Levant.[19”"CONTINUED

2. It doesn't matter where Hamas operates their legal Resistance,(1) IDF targets civilians & destroys life sustaining infrastructure anyway (SEE PLAN DALET)

“Israeli troops killed Gaza children carrying white flag”
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/01/27/60853/i

“Kids in the crosshairs: Photo of Palestinian children killed by IDF wins World Press Photo award”
http://rt.com/news/gaza-photo-award-target-353/comments/

“Israel Sprays Farms In Gaza With Poisonous Chemicals (Video)”
Israel Sprays Farms In Gaza With Poisonous Chemicals Video Your News Wire

“Despite truce, Gaza fishermen under fire at sea”
Despite truce Gaza fishermen under fire at sea The National


“Video: Palestinians shot dead at Nakba Day protest did not threaten soldiers”Video Palestinians shot dead at Nakba Day protest did not threaten soldiers - Diplomacy and Defense - - Haaretz Daily Newspaper Israel News

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The Netanyahu Regime has made it clear that it prefers the status quo (killing Palestinians) to making peace by its relentless, internationally condemned, "Peace Busting" Settlement Expansionism

“I am not looking for a solution, I am looking for a way to manage the conflict” “Defense Minister Ya'alon:
Defense Minister Ya alon I am not looking for a solution I am looking for a way to manage the conflict 972 Magazine

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“United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3236”
United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3236 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

“Do Palestinians Have the Right to Defend Themselves?”
BY: Ramzy Baroud
EXCERPT ""Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Convention of 1949, (Act 1 C4), passed in 1977, declared that armed struggle can be used, as a last resort, as a method of exercising the right of self-determination."CONTINUED

"Peace"? and what peace will that be? the one from their Hadith, about killing all until the last Jew?

Thanks, but, we'll pass.

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You don't speak for all Israelis, especially those not interested in stealing more land and slaughtering innocent civilians.

All experienced Middle East Watchers are familiar with the saying that "Israel will fight to the last drop of American blood" as well as the selfish "Sampson Option": "....We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”


"Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”
General Moshe Dayan

Israel has never declared Final Borders & refuses to make peace because Peace would mean the end of its Expansionist agenda spelled out in the Oded Yinon Plan & "Greater Israel" Seizing / Hegemony over all land from the Litani River to the Euphrates R. to the Nile R.

The Netanyahu Regime's obsession with his internationally condemned, criminal & provocative Expansionism aka his para-Military Settlement Program
is proof of his choice of more Ethnic Cleansing & Regional Conflict over an equitable Peace.

In the long term, Israel is less secure by galvanizing enemies and alienating allies through relentless land grabs & massacres

I don't speak for any Israeli's I asked a simple question and expected an honest answer and all you give is the usual islamonazi propaganda pieces that have never been proven.

Grau is yet another paid propagandist spreading Islamic PaliNazi garbage which comes from from the same source that brought us Monte and Sherri.

Same group, just a different name