Zelenskyy Calls for European Army to Deter Russia, Earn US Respect

[beagle9]

The little comedian wants a “ European army.”. Oddly that already exists in the form of European NATO countries.

I’m afraid that EU NATO doesn’t have the stomach to enter a war of attrition with Russia.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/zelensky-european-army/2025/02/15/id/1199209/

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called on Saturday for the creation of a European army, saying the continent could no longer be sure of protection from the United States and would only get respect from Washington with a strong military.

Trump administration officials have made clear in recent days that they expect European allies in NATO to take primary responsibility for their own defense as the U.S. now had other priorities, such as border security and countering China.

Zelinsky won't rest until he gets a stronger nation or nation's to fight and win the battle for him against Russia. He has been held up in strength by NATO countries for which he has heavily relied upon to sustain him. He is dependent upon other's, and he has also learned from other's as the battle rages onward.

Problem - This has actually caused him to lose thousands of soldier's, and have his cities and town's reduced to rubble as NATO has to walk a tight line on how much it can help because Ukraine cannot be a part of the alliance no matter how much it wants to be, and this for it's protection there of.......Due to the geopgraphical location that it sits in, Russia figures that it has to maintain a buffer zone that separates it from the west and it's meddling in and out of these zones.

Russia won't ever be defeated by Ukraine, and that's why the western world should have immediately started diplomacy along with very reserved allowances given in regards to equipment and technology to Ukraine, otherwise knowing the outcomes of trying to defeat Russian interest in the region by proxy in which hasn't worked for Ukraine or Zelinsky.

 

[mudwhistle]

What Russia has demonstrated is their desire to capture neighboring territory

Zelensky is a hero who stood up to Russian aggression

Oh.....so that's why so many Ukrainian Generals have mansions in the United States??

 

[beagle9]

Killed 80,000 Ukrainians, and threatening the lives of 11,000,000 currently in a food crises.
While you cheered it all on.
Their cities demolished, while you wore a t-shirt saying you stand with Ukraine.
2,000,000 Ukrainians lost their homes, 3,500,000 became homeless after displaced by Russian bombs.
And you wear a rubber yellow band around your wrist to virtue signal your support.

Would have been nice if our president would have been a diplomat for peace instead of a warhawk. The man was a phony in every way imaginable.

 

[beagle9]

Russia has an inept military.
Once a feared military power, they are incapable of defeating a third rate military power

You forget the nukes that Russia has ever so patiently held itself back from ending that war quickly with, and this by way of just a small battlefield Nuke used in which Ukraine has been fortunate enough not to experience to date.

 

[rightwinger]

You forget the nukes that Russia has ever so patiently held itself back from ending that war quickly with, and this by way of just a small battlefield Nuke used in which Ukraine has been fortunate enough not to experience to date.

Even a moron like Putin realizes the consequences of going nuclear

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

I'm all for the EU+Canada to field an army and attack Russia. More power to them. Put up, or shut up.

 

[beagle9]

Even a moron like Putin realizes the consequences of going nuclear

Against a non-NATO nation sitting along side it's border that is a strategically sensitive nation concerning Russias national security interest in that region ? Like I said Ukraine is fortunate that Russia has allowed it to go on for as long as it has allowed it to go on without resorting to such a thing.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Russia has an inept military.
Once a feared military power, they are incapable of defeating a third rate military power

Russia has a battle hardened army, now. None of the EU countries have seen combat since WW2.

 

[beagle9]

Russia has a battle hardened army, now. None of the EU countries have seen combat since WW2.

And they learned a lot in the ways of killing their enemies with the same technologies that have been used against it in the battle over these last 3 year's.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Russia gave up over 200,000 casualties, lost their modern military force, crashed their ruble and became a world pariah

You are only making the point conservatives have made for 4 years in a row while you all virtue signaled and cheered the escalation.
If we had a strong President, didn't have to be Trump, just a strong President - Putin would not have invaded. And certainly that President would not have escalated it to just short of a global conflict.
As Trump stated - "This is a stupid war, that never should have happened".
Biden, and Democrats, used the Ukraine war to rally support for themselves and to detract attention away from 40 year record inflation.
You are soooooo on the wrong side of this issue, and history will say that loud and clear.

 

[rightwinger]

As Trump stated - "This is a stupid war, that never should have happened".

At the time of the invasion, Trump called Putin a Genius for doing it

 

[iamwhatiseem]

At the time of the invasion, Trump called Putin a Genius for doing it

That is a lie and you now it. A mischaracterization of what he said. And you know it.
Don't be that guy RW.
Your side supported a brutal war costing 100,000s of lives for no good reason whatsoever - your side escalated the war just so you could "Stand with Ukraine" and virtue signal.
WE - saw this as a stupid unnecessary conflict that would have STAYED A CONFLICT if America had a leader and stopped it. Instead of using the lives of millions to gain political support by his blind sheep.

 

[rightwinger]

That is a lie and you now it. A mischaracterization of what he said. And you know it.
Don't be that guy RW.
Your side supported a brutal war costing 100,000s of lives for no good reason whatsoever - your side escalated the war just so you could "Stand with Ukraine" and virtue signal.
WE - saw this as a stupid unnecessary conflict that would have STAYED A CONFLICT if America had a leader and stopped it. Instead of using the lives of millions to gain political support by his blind sheep.

It is exactly what Trump said

As the rest of the world was outraged, Trump cheered for Putin

 

[rightwinger]

your side escalated the war just so you could "Stand with Ukraine"

That was a time when the US stood with the oppressed and was respected by the world

 

[initforme]

It'd be something to watch those nations band together and take a stand. Interesting situation.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

That was a time when the US stood with the oppressed and was respected by the world

That was a time when Democrats virtue signaled about a war that is there fault, escalated by them and was joined by the rest of the leftist virtue signalers.
WRONG SIDE OF THE ISSUE.
Now look - EVERYONE wants it to end. Except Zelensky. Your little clown puppet doesn't want it to end at all. He knows his days are extremely limited. He knows this. After the dust settles, he is finished.
And here he is now trying to get other Europeans to send in their own troops at a time when he war is about to end.
AND YOU ALL CALLED HIM WINSTON CHURCHILL.

 

[rightwinger]

That was a time when Democrats virtue signaled about a war that is there fault, escalated by them and was joined by the rest of the leftist virtue signalers.
WRONG SIDE OF THE ISSUE.
Now look - EVERYONE wants it to end. Except Zelensky. Your little clown puppet doesn't want it to end at all. He knows his days are extremely limited. He knows this. After the dust settles, he is finished.
And here he is now trying to get other Europeans to send in their own troops at a time when he war is about to end.
AND YOU ALL CALLED HIM WINSTON CHURCHILL.

Putin apologist

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Putin apologist

Putin is a bad player.
But - I expect this from you. Because all you got is "Orange man bad", and "Putin lover".
No one but yourselves bought that loser argument, and they sure aren't buying it now.
Trump is about to end this war, and you hate that. Hate it.
You would rather see this war escalate to a global conflict and millions die than see Trump win.

 

[rightwinger]

Putin is a bad player.
But - I expect this from you. Because all you got is "Orange man bad", and "Putin lover".
No one but yourselves bought that loser argument, and they sure aren't buying it now.
Trump is about to end this war, and you hate that. Hate it.
You would rather see this war escalate to a global conflict and millions die than see Trump win.

Trump is a Surrender Monkey ready to capitulate to Putin’s desires

Can you name one thing he is offering Ukraine?

 

[beagle9]

Putin apologist

No, more like a realist..