Zelensky says no peace deal without Kyviv

Good luck to them. Just remember the Europeans couldn't handle Kosovo without us. I wouldn't get your hopes too high.
Clinton waged war on Yugoslavia and he gets the view of my ass over that. Today at Belgium meetings are held where they announced to Ukraine, we still will help you get all of your land back.
 

Sorry. Z...Putin has his tool in charge now. trump is going to throw you under the bus so that he can look good. trump cannot be trusted. He is a criminal. He

Felon47 froze out the Government of Afghanistan and Afghan Military when he gave the Taliban what they wanted. He inked that before Biden took office, and Biden had no choice but to honor it. That deal the Orange Shit Gibbon made Taliban led to the release 5,000 Taliban Fighters, one of is now the leader of Afghanistan.

Zelensky has every right to demand a seat at the table. Felon47 will sure as shit freeze him out. He is the duly and democratically elected President of Ukraine and as such has the right to a seat the table.
 
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Maps of the world change all the time. Especially so after WW1 and WW2 across the Euro continent.

It's not about maps changing, it's about resolving the underlying conflict.

WWI didn't end German Nationalism and expansionism, it just delayed it for 20 years. The Korean war is still being fought as a cold war.

WWII ended German and Japanese nationalism and expansionism.
 
It's not about maps changing, it's about resolving the underlying conflict.

WWI didn't end German Nationalism and expansionism, it just delayed it for 20 years. The Korean war is still being fought as a cold war.

WWII ended German and Japanese nationalism and expansionism.
I don't disagree about resolving the underlying conflict but spending endless dollars to fund the Ukies will not end the conflict even if they won the war.

Her Majesty Putin believes Ukraine is a part of Imperial Russia.
 
I don't disagree about resolving the underlying conflict but spending endless dollars to fund the Ukies will not end the conflict even if they won the war.

Her Majesty Putin believes Ukraine is a part of Imperial Russia.

Putin being forced to accept a 2014 Ukraine would probably oust his regime.

Right now all we can probably get is an armistice.
 
Afghanistan: Who Originally Supported Trump's Deal with The Taliban?


The deal - secured by Donald Trump and signed in Doha, Qatar, in February 2020 - committed to the withdrawal of US and allied (including British) troops from Afghanistan by May 2021.

In the same deal were broad obligations on the Taliban to take steps to prevent groups including al-Qaeda from threatening the security of the US and its allies.

After his election, US President Joe Biden continued the plan for withdrawal but with an end date of 31 August.

Felon47 inked this deal in February of 2020. Mr. Biden did not assume office until Jan. 21, 2021. Saying that NOT true does NOT change fact that is true.
 
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What Clausewitz also says about this situation is you won't get a true peace at this point, because the cause of the conflict won't be resolved.

You are going to get the end of WWI, or the Korean war Armistice, not the end of WWII.

The end or the beginning of WWI) is the most likely outcome.

Every official in every Capitol in Europe knows that.

Trump’s duplicity will only set the stage for the next war. That is widely understood.
 
Fact: Poootin unprovoked attacked Ukraine. Fact: trump will screw Ukraine to satisfy Poootin
Great. Whatever that stops prolonging this stupid war and ends numerous deaths and destruction.
 
The end or the beginning of WWI) is the most likely outcome.

Every official in every Capitol in Europe knows that.

Trump’s duplicity will only set the stage for the next war. That is widely understood.

Everything isn't about Trump, you dundering mouthbreather.

Right now short of Direct NATO intervention, a 2014 border Ukraine isn't possible.
 
Not if the spigot from American tax payers ends.


. . I mean, sure, Ukraine can attempt to continue their doomed crusade to keep territory populated by ethnic Russians, but the reality? When conflict starts, the political settlement is determined by the folks that hold the cards.

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Ukraine is less dependent on fickle American aid than parochialAmericans think they are.

They learned not to count on the US and particularly not on Trump, who is a Putin’s pet.

Ukraine will fight for its freedom.

If we were the people we like to say we are, we would continue to support their efforts.

But we have a sniveling little coward in the White House, afraid to stand up for leadership and freedom the way every President from Roosevelt to Biden did.
 
Everything isn't about Trump, you dundering mouthbreather.

Right now short of Direct NATO intervention, a 2014 border Ukraine isn't possible.

This is ALL about Trump.

He is promoting the betrayal of Ukraine .

The Russians are delighted.
 
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Great. Whatever that stops prolonging this stupid war and ends numerous deaths and destruction.

You could care less about the war. You don’t care who dies, who gets oppressed, who ends up in a gulag.

Neither does your fuhrer.

You parrot his lies because you support his betrayal. But you can’t defend it. So you mumble the pablum about an imaginary peace.
 
How can the US betray the Ukraine when we have no obligations to them?

Trump is trying to give away a large part of Ukraine and make sure that the remainder is weak enough that the Russians will have less trouble overrunning it next time.

Apparantly you have been asleep somewhere.
 
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