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1. That is......unless you already know that Democrats/Leftists/Progressives lie about everything....

Perhaps you've noted the 50 or so lies and hoaxes they purveyd since and including Russia Collusion and the Wuhan Red Death.




2. "Auto Expert Uncovers Hidden Truth About EV Range Claims - Owners Should Be Seething
These vehicles can put in some serious miles on a single charge — and the government’s building more charging infrastructure along the highways every day.
Neil Winton, however, says that’s a load of hooey. Winton is an auto industry analyst and senior contributor to Forbes. He says that while EVs may look ideal if you’re just going by the manufacturer’s spec sheet, the real-world performance of these cars is very different than what’s promised when it comes to range.



3. .... the range you get could be, in real-world scenarios, up to 32 percent less than what’s promised. That’s the biggest deviation Winton found when he looked at 20 different EV models in a test published Tuesday. (The big loser was the Mini Electric, which had a WLTP range claim of 145 miles but could only muster 98.5 given real-world battery capacity.)
In one case — the Polestar 2, manufactured by Volvo’s performance brand — Winton’s test results found drivers would only get about 40 percent of the advertised range.

Why? Well, if “you drive at normal cruising speeds with the air conditioning on, the media system doing its stuff and the heater making you snug,” it’s a drain on the battery that the manufacturer didn’t figure in when it calculated the vehicle’s range numbers.



4. EVs do worse than advertised on the highway for a number of reasons. For starters, electric motors are far more efficient in stop-and-go driving conditions than during highway driving, partially because of regenerative braking; EVs use the friction caused when you slow your car down to recharge the battery. Braking doesn’t happen much during highway driving, however, which is why the advertised range drops precipitously.

Then there’s the matter of cruising speed on the highway — and the fact it’s almost always higher than the legal limit, no matter where in the world you are.




5. Some automotive journalists are slowly discovering this dark secret, as well.

Last month, a Wall Street Journal writer described a hellish road trip she took in a brand-new Kia EV, which ended with her spending more time charging the car than sleeping; not only did the vehicle’s battery deplete more quickly than advertised, charging times were much slower than expected."





Sooooo......you like walking?????
 
1. That is......unless you already know that Democrats/Leftists/Progressives lie about everything....

Perhaps you've noted the 50 or so lies and hoaxes they purveyd since and including Russia Collusion and the Wuhan Red Death.




2. "Auto Expert Uncovers Hidden Truth About EV Range Claims - Owners Should Be Seething
These vehicles can put in some serious miles on a single charge — and the government’s building more charging infrastructure along the highways every day.
Neil Winton, however, says that’s a load of hooey. Winton is an auto industry analyst and senior contributor to Forbes. He says that while EVs may look ideal if you’re just going by the manufacturer’s spec sheet, the real-world performance of these cars is very different than what’s promised when it comes to range.



3. .... the range you get could be, in real-world scenarios, up to 32 percent less than what’s promised. That’s the biggest deviation Winton found when he looked at 20 different EV models in a test published Tuesday. (The big loser was the Mini Electric, which had a WLTP range claim of 145 miles but could only muster 98.5 given real-world battery capacity.)
In one case — the Polestar 2, manufactured by Volvo’s performance brand — Winton’s test results found drivers would only get about 40 percent of the advertised range.

Why? Well, if “you drive at normal cruising speeds with the air conditioning on, the media system doing its stuff and the heater making you snug,” it’s a drain on the battery that the manufacturer didn’t figure in when it calculated the vehicle’s range numbers.



4. EVs do worse than advertised on the highway for a number of reasons. For starters, electric motors are far more efficient in stop-and-go driving conditions than during highway driving, partially because of regenerative braking; EVs use the friction caused when you slow your car down to recharge the battery. Braking doesn’t happen much during highway driving, however, which is why the advertised range drops precipitously.

Then there’s the matter of cruising speed on the highway — and the fact it’s almost always higher than the legal limit, no matter where in the world you are.




5. Some automotive journalists are slowly discovering this dark secret, as well.

Last month, a Wall Street Journal writer described a hellish road trip she took in a brand-new Kia EV, which ended with her spending more time charging the car than sleeping; not only did the vehicle’s battery deplete more quickly than advertised, charging times were much slower than expected."





Sooooo......you like walking?????

OCD
 
6. “Only real-world data should be used. The manufacturers must come clean about extended motorway fast-lane cruising,” he wrote.

“On most EVs this cuts range by between 30 and 50%. This must be conceded. The impact of cold weather on range can mean up to a 30% range cut. Similarly, the impact of full loads of people and luggage is a reality, and the necessity of regularly filling to only 80% of capacity to protect the life of the battery must be admitted. There reports that tire wear might be excessive because of the huge weight of the batteries, but this currently is only conjecture and needs to be confirmed.”

The chances that this will happen are roughly the same as the chances you will get the advertised range out of an EV’s battery."



Remember how Chevy sold the Nova in Latin America, not realizing it means no-go in Spanish????


I'm waitin' for the EV called 'Gullible'....may be with this picture of a Seagull...
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7. OK, OK.......let's look at the bright side.


The health benefits of the EV......you know, when it dies on the highway and you have to walk ten or fifteen miles....


From a NYTimes article about ‘Sicko,’ and Cuba:
“Because they don’t have up-to-date cars, they tend to have to exercise more by walking,” he said. “And they may not have a surfeit of food, which keeps them from problems like obesity, but they’re not starving, either.”

‘Sicko,’ Castro and the ‘120 Years Club’ (Published 2007)
 
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All the people who have been forced to buy an electric car against their will should sue who ever made them buy that car. Any idea how many poor unfortunate people have been forced to buy one?
 
8. "The electric car is inherently political. It’s a statement. For Democrats, the electric car’s time has arrived — and Mr. and Mrs. America, turn in your internal combustion engines. Embrace the EV future. Forget about that $5 gas and join the Tesla revolution. (Well, maybe not Tesla; Elon’s been thinking for himself on occasion lately.)"




‘In fact, more than half of the Prius buyers surveyed this spring by CNW Marketing Research of Bandon, Ore., said the main reason they purchased their car was that “it makes a statement about me.” ‘Say ‘Hybrid’ and Many People Will Hear ‘Prius’ (Published 2007)
 
You again?? Why must my day be filled with EDPs???


Why is it that you Democrats cannot articulate a salient point?
Is it government schooling or some medical disability????
It can be both, but I suspect that some of these inane bed wetters are simply born to parents who have atrophied frontal lobes themselves and their offspring was genetically doomed to become the weaker links. The schools of course have been much to blame for well over 80 years in that they have incrementally reduced standards and suppressed individualism as well as critical thinking.
 
It can be both, but I suspect that some of these inane bed wetters are simply born to parents who have atrophied frontal lobes themselves and their offspring was genetically doomed to become the weaker links. The schools of course have been much to blame for well over 80 years in that they have incrementally reduced standards and suppressed individualism as well as critical thinking.


You convinced me.....I'll go with 'c.'
 
Also we might add that that KIA EV has one of the smaller EV batteries that weighs in just over 800 lbs. The components in that battery are large amounts of lithium, nickel, cobalt, manganese, graphite, iron, maybe a mile of copper wiring. Some of it can be recycled but strict rules apply as a spent battery constitutes a biohazard. Replacing them will cost the average EV owner an average $5,000 or so.

And to make them here are some typical mines:
Lithium mine:
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Nickel Mine:
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Cobalt Mine:
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Manganese mine
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And the copper, iron, graphite etc. mines aren't any prettier.

The bottom line is that sooner or later, some entrepreneur or entrepreneurs will come up with fuels and transportation that are more environmentally friendly and effective than fossil fuels. But for there to be a significant increase in EVs at this time comes at a significant environmental cost. And as the OP suggests, an EV may be too expensive and too inconvenient than a dependable gasoline powered vehicle that goes 300-400 miles on a tank of gas and can be refueled in 10 minutes or less and you're on your way.
 
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Also we might add that that KIA EV has one of the smaller EV batteries that weighs in just over 800 lbs. The components in that battery are large amounts of lithium, nickel, cobalt, manganese, graphite, iron, maybe a mile of copper wiring. Some of it can be recycled but strict rules apply as a spent battery constitutes a biohazard. Replacing them will cost the average EV owner an average $5,000 or so.

And to make them here are some typical mines:
Lithium mine:
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Nickel Mine:
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Cobalt Mine:
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Manganese mine
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And the copper, iron, graphite etc. mines aren't any prettier.

The bottom line is that sooner or later, some entrepreneur or entrepreneurs will come up with fuels and transportation that are more environmentally friendly and effective than fossil fuels. But for there to be a significant increase in EVs at this time comes at a significant environmental cost. And as the OP suggests, an EV may be too expensive and too inconvenient than a dependable gasoline powered vehicle that goes 300-400 miles on a tank of gas and can be refueled in 10 minutes or less and you're on your way.



But....but.....those are pictues of Mother Gaia being saved and preserved!!!
 
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"So, eschewing the environmentalists' sleight of hand, the real issue boils down to technology factors that include, among other things, vehicle reliability and operational range. The technology behind EVs is exciting and making significant developmental steps forward. Yet it remains true that EVs simply don't have the operational range of gas-powered vehicles.

There's also the maintenance factor. According to J.D. Power, EV owners report a higher rate of maintenance problems than do gas-vehicle owners. And it's not really even close. EV owners noted 240 problems per 100 vehicles, whereas gas-car owners cited 175 problems per 100 vehicles."
Patriot Post
 
Did you just classify Trump as a Leftist????

Who ties your shoelaces for you????
Yes, he's on the left.
He may be right-wing according to the northern European classification, like the Tories, Christian Democrats, monarchists, but these are all left-wing imperialists, the terms of conservatives and rightists are mixed up there. The right is the heirs of the revolution, anti-federalists and libertarians. The European pseudo-right is the left, and so is the Trump. Historically, it is the left plebeian nobility against the patricians or German merchants and priests against chivalry. Prussian officials against the Polish hussars and so on.
 
Trump, in fact, does not hide his leftism. He licks the ass of Europe and the Taliban, rejects traditional marriage, the heroism of soldiers, and so on. You can even call him an ultra-left
 
Yes, he's on the left.
He may be right-wing according to the northern European classification, like the Tories, Christian Democrats, monarchists, but these are all left-wing imperialists, the terms of conservatives and rightists are mixed up there. The right is the heirs of the revolution, anti-federalists and libertarians. The European pseudo-right is the left, and so is the Trump. Historically, it is the left plebeian nobility against the patricians or German merchants and priests against chivalry. Prussian officials against the Polish hussars and so on.


You couldn't be more wrong if your intent was to be more wrong.

“The world was not really made up of wicked tyrants and free-born men who were kept in chains. The example of America proved that. After their revolution, the Americans had quarreled amongst themselves for a few years about whether the country should be run by the upper classes—known as Federalists—or the people, who called themselves Democratic republicans. Hamilton, the secretary of the treasury, believed that America needed a strong government supported by bankers. Thomas Jefferson believed in complete freedom of speech and a people’s democracy.

In 1801, the Democrats won, and America continued to nurture individualism and to allow complete freedom of expression where politics was concerned. No one preached that the rich were wicked, or that the wealth of the country ought to be distributed equally among every man, woman and child. There was no need, since everyone had equal opportunities. So the Americans went their cheerful, materialistic way and grew prosperous. Obviously, this conflict between socialism and individualism was quite unnecessary.” Colin Wilson, “Criminal History of Mankind.”
 
You couldn't be more wrong if your intent was to be more wrong.

“The world was not really made up of wicked tyrants and free-born men who were kept in chains. The example of America proved that. After their revolution, the Americans had quarreled amongst themselves for a few years about whether the country should be run by the upper classes—known as Federalists—or the people, who called themselves Democratic republicans. Hamilton, the secretary of the treasury, believed that America needed a strong government supported by bankers. Thomas Jefferson believed in complete freedom of speech and a people’s democracy.

In 1801, the Democrats won, and America continued to nurture individualism and to allow complete freedom of expression where politics was concerned. No one preached that the rich were wicked, or that the wealth of the country ought to be distributed equally among every man, woman and child. There was no need, since everyone had equal opportunities. So the Americans went their cheerful, materialistic way and grew prosperous. Obviously, this conflict between socialism and individualism was quite unnecessary.” Colin Wilson, “Criminal History of Mankind.”


Here Jefferson is right. his heirs are Reagan and Bushes.

There is no confusion, it is in the minds of Americans right now confusion.

The right is for freedom and personal responsibility, the left is for slavery and the collectivism of slaves. Right - military aristocrats, left plebeian nobility and communists.
 
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